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Sunday: Getting our post-primary dander up

What is it about our culture that demands that women go back for additional training if they want to apply for the same job as a man?  We all knew that a certain amount of sexism was exerting itself early on in the primary season.  Barack Obama lost many of us permanently when he made the “likeable enough” comment during the New Hampshire debates.  And we all witnessed the horror of the gangbang debate in Philadelphia where Tim Russert actually encouraged each of the other other candidates to take a turn with Hillary.  Then Chris Matthews did his thing afterwards and pretty much told her the next day to not cry about it.  I don’t recall her complaining about it.  It was more like “bring it on”.

And they did.

But those instances are merely the outward manifestations of some internal conviction.  The source of the misogyny that plagued Clinton and is now hurled with abandon from the left at Palin is something more sinister and evil.  It is a truth universally acknowledged that a man has native and latent abilities that he merely has to assert that women only acquire by more rigorous and extensive training.  We’ve seen evidence of this in our own lives.  My Brook must repeat a year of pre-algebra while her nationally ranked peers proceed to enriched algebra.  Why?  In spite of the fact that her test scores all year were A level, she didn’t do her homework.  Until she learns to do it, the fact that she scores in the top 2% nationally in math among 12 year olds is of absolutely no value to her teachers.  Or there was my female supervisor who was passed over for head of the department for a man who stayed in the shadows for years, biding his time and not doing much of anything while she picked up the slack and managed the paperwork.

Many of us sat in rapt attention while Hillary Clinton ran circles around her male counterparts in debate.  There wasn’t a subject they threw at her that she couldn’t respond to with confidence and an in-depth knowledge and command of the policy.  Obama was clearly out of his league.  It was embarrassing.  And yet, the next day, the media would fluff him and some of them were even believing it.

The most irritating episode of this spectacle came when Jonathan Alter wrote this column in Newsweek in March of this year, speculating that the Governorship of New York should be offered to Hillary as a consolation prize for her to just drop out of the presidential primary.  Here’s the most puzzling and offensive part of the piece:

In the event that Paterson had to resign, the New York State Constitution calls for a gubernatorial election this November. Clinton would be the favorite in that contest if she were interested. Were a politically wounded Paterson to serve out Spitzer’s term, which ends in 2010, Clinton would no doubt be a strong potential candidate to succeed him.

Under the scenario sketched out by the insiders, serving two years as governor would give Clinton the executive experience to become the prohibitive favorite for the 2012 Democratic presidential nomination.

I’m sorry, say that again?  We are expecting Hillary Clinton, two term senator, former first lady of Arkansas and the United States and aide to a two term president who had her own office in the White House, to take remedial training in governor school before she can compete against a less than one term senator with absolutely NO experience working in an executive capacity at all?

It occured to me that the hatred of Clinton was so extreme among members of the press that they didn’t REALLY believe this.  They were just stating some absurd scenario to get her to go away.  But the phenomenon seems to be seeping into Sarah Palin’s coverage as well.  The President of the US is a position in the Executive branch of government.  You would think that having been an executive of a state as big and as important as Alaska would have given Palin more relevant experience than less than 142 days of experience as a US Senator, which is in the legislative branch of government.  Palin has had almost two straight years of work as a governor before she was tapped for VP.  Obama had slightly less than a year and only 142 days of actual work before he decided he was ready enough to be President of the US in a branch of government where he has never held elective office.  And instead of this provoking any questions about HIS qualifications, it is HER’S that are being dismissed as inadequate.

We are now hearing that it is ‘hubris’ for her to pronounce herself ready to occupy a spot a level down the ladder while Obama is eminently qualified to succeed to the most powerful position in the world.  Indeed, there is virtually nothing that he can not do.

The problem was not Hillary Clinton, though I am beginning to wonder what she did to the media that makes them carry this permanent grudge and unstoppable urge to crush her.  The problem is this deeply ingrained, old-husband’s tale that women are not as good as men.  No matter what they do, no matter what they achieve, no matter how much they give, they will never be as good.  But even more disturbng is the fact that this is a belief that seems to be unique to American society.  In other countries, even one as oppressive to women as Pakistan, it is possible to elect women to high office.  But in the US, the most qualified person for the job was hamstrung by this neanderthal belief that she wasn’t ready, despite her display of knowledge and command and extensive resume as the guy she was running against with the razor thin CV but the leadership brain structure that only needed to be activated.  Is it because we as a country haven’t reached a state of economic desperation that we still have the luxury to let men play at being leaders?  When we get to that stage, will we then be willing to let a woman of greater potential have a crack at it?  Does the entire country have to be on the verge or past ruin before we correctly assess and weigh the experience and abilities of all persons applying for the job and award the job based on merit?

It must be nice to be a man in America.  Your abilities are almost never questioned.  One almost imagines American men waking up in the morning and quietly uttering the prayer, “Oh God I thank thee that I was not born an American woman.”

That’s gotta stop.

In 2008, we have the opportunity to make sure American men get the message.

Hillarious insight from mwb from the comments:

I think we need to add a new term to the lexicon to sum up that prevalent bit of sexism. I’m calling it Penis Years* (not a coincidence that it echoes the term dog years.)

* Penis Years: Each year of any experience of a person with a penis is equivalent to five years of experience by someone without a penis.

Swanspirit has an “extension” to the definition of Penis Years:

The measurements of PENIS YEARS …. as with fishing … are usually not well defined by any specific or traditional system and are always greatly exaggerated

Use liberally.

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206 Responses

  1. Morning RD!

    And, just as with Hillary, if Sarah Palin DOES do well, and shows that she IS qualified for the task she has taken on, she must be made to appear as if that did not happen.

    ABC News Edited Out Key Parts of Sarah Palin Interview

    Can you believe the utter mendacity of these corporate media sh*theads?

  2. And (just thinking: aside from NOT voting for Obama, I’m totally undecided) If we do elect Palin as Vice President don’t we instantly double the pool of available candidate for President and Vice President from now on?

    I’m just sick of the “Not THIS woman” argument. I’ve held my nose to vote for plenty of men. Why does the First woman have to be perfect?

  3. Or there was my female supervisor who was passed over for head of the department for a man who stayed in the shadows for years, biding his time and not doing much of anything while she picked up the slack and managed the paperwork.

    I’ve got twenty in the Navy and I saw this alot. While I believe as an institution the Navy is fairly progressive some of the people in it are not.

  4. I think we need to add a new term to the lexicon to sum up that prevalent bit of sexism. I’m calling it Penis Years* (not a coincidence that it echoes the term dog years.)

    * Penis Years: Each year of any experience of a person with a penis is equivalent to five years of experience by someone without a penis.

    😉

  5. mwb, I love it! Penis years!

  6. I am having an ongoing argument with my best friend regarding Sarah Palin’s qualifications. It becomes more interesting whenever he uses the “heartbeat away” argument, because I keep reminding him that he is 5 years older than McCain. Many years ago we worked for the same institution, and my friend had a universally recognized reputation for being one of the few managers who was color blind and gender blind when it came to opportunities and promotions. He voted for Hillary in the primary but can’t bring himself to see that Obama is no more qualified than Sarah Palin. Go figure.

  7. mwb – That is AWESOME!!! Penis years. Wow. I’m stealing that (with hat tip of course!)!!!

  8. katiebird: I plan to pass up the top spot too and vote only downticket because I don’t share the Republican worldview, at all. But unlike Kansas, which is virtually assured of going red, New Jersey has suddenly moved into the “in-play” category. We shall see if the Nothing On Top maneuver is enough to do the job. For sure, Obama has lost a lot of women here and Cozine may have nailed the coffin with his unanimous ceding of ALL of our delegates to Obama. I’m not sure who I loathe more at the moment: Obama or my own governor.
    No question about it though, someone’s going to pay for it.

  9. KB – The first woman is carrying on her shoulders the entire weight of her gender. The standards are going to be higher. Just like when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in baseball, he had to be exceptional in order to get to that professional level.

    That’s why Hillary spent so much time building up her qualifications. She was more than ready.

    However, I also believe Sarah Palin is more than ready for the job of Vice President. If she were running for President, I would laugh at her.

    Since the media has been pushing Obama so hard, they have refused to hold him to the same high standards that Jackie Robinson was held to. And that was a horrible misuse of power on their part.

  10. RD-brilliant post! My views exactly! Thank you!

  11. When the majority decides to take the office rather than grovel for it, we’ll have it.

    Using the clinical reference for a gender specific type of years turns off the diplomatic. We need to elevate this discussion, not drive it into the gutter. Have fun with it, but approach with the temperence that is the hallmark of successful women. Sensationalizing the debate forces the truly professional to reject it.

  12. SWPAnnA: Never underestimate the power of mockery.

  13. What bothers me is the way the prog bloggers (especially Josh Marshall) keep harping on Palin’s “bridge to nowhere” remarks, which they consider “the worst lie EVER.” Marhsall even calls her “pathological.” This, despite…

    1. The lie is no lie at all, at least in a strictly technical sense. Congress did give Alaska earmarked funds for the bridge, and she did choose to spend the money on other things.

    2. Obama and Biden voted FOR the earmarked funds for the bridge, and refused to vote for an amendment that that would have switched the money to Katrina relief.

    3. Obama has gotten a free pass for his truly pathological lying. Remember when he lied about whether he knew Tony Rezko? Remember when he lied about whether he knew Bill Ayers? Remember when he lied about FISA? Remember when he lied about campaign finance? NAFTA? Hillary?

    Can anyone name three major issues on which Obama has NOT lied?

  14. Women in the “progressive” movement today, fill the same position as Stokely Carmicheal’s women in the Black Liberation movement so long ago. “In the kitchen or on their backs.”

    Women may have the vote, but men, and some women still believe that it taxes our brains to think about these things, and it could be unhealthy for us. In other words, just leave it to them to worry about. I have had this discussion with friends before, a little logic can go a long way. Pedaphilia is overwhelmingly a heterosexual male phenomenon, therefore, heterosexual men should never teach children. Violence is overwhelmingly a male problem (probably from all that testosterone running through their systems, poor dears), therefore men should never be given weapons or put in positions of power, as they may unwittingly abuse them.

    Clearly, the only answer here is to put women in charge for awhile and see if we can’t do some retraining so as to better use the male assets we have.

    (Sorry guys, just a little tongue in cheek taste of what we get all the time.).

  15. Riverdaughter, have you looked at our old friend, Hominid Views lately?

    A week ago, it was Obama 80.6% (Mean of 287 electoral votes) vs McCain 19.4% (Mean of 251 electoral votes)

    Today? It’s Obama 58.3% (Mean of 272 electoral votes) vs McCain 41.7% (Mean of 266 electoral votes)

  16. I plan to use it. I will be telling people that Obama had 142 working days in the senate, and is only 47, but that makes him a wise old statesman with decades of governing experience in Penis Years.

  17. Kbird: I may have to send a little note to Hominid Views and see if he can add the Nothing On Top descriptor to his calculations. Let’s see how many people have to leave the top spot blank to flip a state like New Jersey.

  18. Marquez got it right:
    “The only new idea that could save humanity in the 21st century is for women to take over the management of the world. I believe that male dominance has squandered an opportunity of 10,000 years. We men have belittled and ridiculed feminine intuition and on the other hand, we have historically sanctified our ideologies, almost all of them absurd or abominable. The masculine power structure has proved that it cannot impede the destruction of the environment, because it is incapable of overcoming its own interests. For women, on the other hand, preservation of the environment is a genetic vocation. The reversal of powers is a matter of life or death.”
    – Gabriel Gárcia Márquez, author.

  19. Here’s a comment for last night’s thread at Balloon Juice that demonstrates RD’s point, as well as textbook cognitive dissonance:

    Conservatively Liberal Says:

    I am thinking (dangerous thing that is) and Palin can be summed up thusly:

    The Empress has no clothes. The McCain camp took this politically naked woman from nowhere, they put her out on the political street to politically pimp for them and they are telling people that if they note that she is naked then they are attacking her.

    They have made stating the obvious an attack. The Empress is naked and everyone knows it. Everyone. Supporters and detractors alike know that she is naked.

    This is just fine with Sarah because she is the woman with all of the answers.

    If the press fails us, we are probably fucked. Qualifications may no longer matter, personality and popularity rule the day.

    Unfuckingbelievable for a so-called advanced society. Our founding fathers would be aghast that we could fall so far.

    September 14th, 2008 at 1:00 am

    I can say with assurance that the above comment was not meant as snark.

    I suspect that the author of the comment is the alter-ego of one of our more obnoxious trolls.

    If he isn’t “steveeboy,” he is acquainted with whoever is.

  20. Someone should market honorary, plastic penises.

    The New York Times has a hit piece on Palin today. Its premise:

    “But an examination of her swift rise and record as mayor of Wasilla and then governor finds that her visceral style and penchant for attacking critics — she sometimes calls local opponents “haters” — contrasts with her carefully crafted public image.

    “Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.”

    Excuse me, but Palin sounds like a typical, small-town politician. I’m still waiting and waiting and waiting for the U.S. media to sic its dogs on Obama.

  21. Whoa, sisters, you’ve lost me. I’ve taught women’s history for thirty years.Hillary WAS subject to a grotesque misogynist campaign, which was also abouther AGE (old woman as witch, sexless, etc)/ Palin’s coach Karl Rove has cried sexism to cover up her grotesque positions (killing wolves by airplane!! charging rape victims for rape kits, etc). We should not be fooled. This woman doesn’t hold a candle to Hillary and would destroy the rights of all women, not to mention our animal friends. Please.

  22. RD, would that be using the Undecided/Uncommitted voters for an estimate? That’s an interesting idea.

    I think I’m actually feeling guilty for the meaninglessness of my vote. Which is weird. I’ve felt frustrated about that in previous years. Wishing that my vote actually counted.

    This year, I guess my relief is battling with guilt.

  23. I wrote a comment, hit submit, and it vanished!

  24. Lauren, “This woman” — would be Vice President. Get over yourself. The candidates are Obama & McCain. Not Obama & Palin.

  25. SWPAnnA,

    I disagree. The “truly professional” are part of the problem. I work in Academia and can tell you that they are as sexist as anyone else. I think women should stop playing within the framework set up for them. That, however, requires stepping outside of that box and risking being called “hysterical”, “shrill”, and “bitchy”. “Elevating the discussion” makes you look like a nerd when you are up against Clinton nut crackers and fuckability scales.

  26. (giggle) Wow, MyIQ — you went straight into the spam filter!

  27. riverdaughter, on September 14th, 2008 at 10:35 am Said:

    For sure, Obama has lost a lot of women here and Cozine may have nailed the coffin with his unanimous ceding of ALL of our delegates to Obama. I’m not sure who I loathe more at the moment: Obama or my own governor.
    No question about it though, someone’s going to pay for it.

    And that is exactly why I plan on voting Republican for the first time in my life – this is a protest vote, not a vote for a Republican. I don’t think that the Dems will understand anything else except this slap upside their collective heads. I was absolutely furious when I saw what Gov. Corzine did with my vote – throw it away. If I cannot trust him with that, what makes me think that I can trust him – or the other Dems who didn’t care about my vote – on any other issue?

    With the Republicans, I know that I must be vigilant always – I used to assume that the Dems had much of my welfare in mind and didn’t have to be hyper vigilant. Wrong. They’ve proved themselves even slimier than Republicans in their betrayal of my vote.

    And all this hoopla about Sarah Palin only shows me the utter fear of having a female in charge. All I want to scream is “Get over your mommy issues and grow the f*** up already.”

  28. Why do I get the feeling that “lauren” has a penis and it is factory equipment? (of the “subcompact” variety)

  29. I think this is so true. I have experienced this throughout my career.

    What we see here is even a step beyond having women be MORE qualified than any man on the field, we also have obama who is LESS qualified than any man or woman runing for the top job in recent history and having the path cleared. I think the media loves his sexism and enjoys having him as member of the club.

  30. A debate Obama cannot win

    Sunday, September 14, 2008

    His record simply does not correspond to his rhetoric.

    Mr. Obama’s “new kind of politics” – which was based on telling the truth, being a principled politician and treating one’s opponents fairly – collapsed once he secured the nomination in June. He reversed course with dizzying speed on NAFTA, FISA, public financing of campaigns, whether the D.C. gun ban was constitutional, meeting with rogue leaders without preconditions and the unity of Jerusalem. He even qualified his Iraq policy by stating it would be “refined” according to “conditions on the ground.” Most recently, in light of the economic downturn, Mr. Obama stated he might reconsider implementing the tax increases in his economic plan.
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  31. I am very angry about the way Hillary (now Palin) and most women (particulary older women) were treated during the primary, but what I am most furious and undeniably outraged about is how our votes were coopted – turned over – STOLEN – my vote is mine, not someone else’s to change or hand over to another. My governor is going to have to do something incredibly specatacular to bring me back as a supporter – I saw one of the delegates who went to Denver this week and she said it was dreadful.
    So yes the whole misogynistic mess has me infuriated but losing my vote has me enraged!!!
    I will still write in Hillary for President.

  32. Myiq – OMFG!!! LOLOLOL

    Yes, meet the “I’m a woman but Palin’s v*gin* gives me the willies” troll.

  33. RD-Great post, and I love mwb’s metric of penis years. However, I’m certain that the MSM’s and the progblogs’ CDS is so rampant that even if Hillary had executive experience, they would just move the goal posts by saying that she wasn’t a governor long enough.

  34. lauren reminds me of another troll who compared Palin to Dan Quayle and said that if she were elected another woman would never be elected to those high offices again. I reminder her that she’s right, because after Dan Quayle another white man was never elected to office again….

  35. In regards to killing wolves, mankind has been killing them since the dawn of history.

    They are hunted from planes because that method is fast and efficient, especially in a state the size of Alaska.

    The wolves are not killed for sport.

  36. lauren: We aren’t “fooled” about anything Palin. But the excessive attention on HER record while ignoring everything related to Obama’s tends to exaggerate and distort her flaws while exhonerating his.
    Lauren, I would be very careful if I were you to not presume anything about the commenters here. We are Democrats, not Republicans and every single one of us could run circles around the typical Obama supporter in terms of logic. Some of us have advanced degrees in a wide variety of fields, in areas where it would take years for you to understand on a rudimentary level. Some are just educated by life. But there is one thing for sure: NONE of us have been “fooled” by anything that has gone on in this election season. We have our eyes wide open and nothing gets past us. Our champion was sidelined but that just means that we can watch the spectacle unfold more objectively. And I am pretty sure that what we’re looking at right now has less to do with age and more to do with gender, especially since Palin is much younger than Hillary. We see the same patterns of invective aimed at her that were aimed at Hillary. This is irrespective of party affiliation and age. When the mob starts directing its attention at all things Obama and starts comparing his experience to his own running mate, for example, then it will be something less than sexism.

  37. This election year has revealed how deeply ingrained sexism is in our culture. I’m with you Katiebird, I am disgusted with the contemptuous “not THIS woman” argument. It’s the same mindset they used in attacking Hillary, now being used against Palin. Coincidence? I don’t think so. It’s any woman who has the “audacity” to run for the top (or next in line) position.

    It’s interesting to parallel it with the excitement most obots feel about electing a biracial President. On the board I was kicked off of, one poster effused that her boys were seeing someone who looks like them become a presidential nominee. And then went on to add that her sons were so excited they even “want to marry” the Obama girls. My first thought was: WTF? “Marry” the “Obama girls”? But, yeah, that’s the obot mindset. The boys are the ones who run things while the girls are the handmaids. And yet poster after poster blubbered on that this post had brought them to tears. Me, I was just left shaking my head.

    Personally I can understand why people would be excited about a biracial candidate, or a candidate of any ethnic or cultural background that has yet to make it to the highest ranks in our country. So why can’t they understand that having a woman on the ticket is just as refreshing?

    I think Sarah Palin was a great VP choice. I don’t agree with many of her positions but that doesn’t stop me from seeing what an excellent and very capable candidate she is. And, if necessary, I will vote the McCain/Palin ticket in November.

  38. You guys all missed one thing in the comparison between Obama and Palin: Obama IS qualified to be President because he has been running to be President.

    I can’t believe people who consider themselves INTELEK-CHEWALS will seriously make that argument without noticing it’s circularity.

  39. votingvoter, get back to us with that crap when you Obamabots start comparing Obama’s experience to McCain’s, instead of comparing him to Palin.

    And lauren, I could give a rat’s ass about air-hunting of wolves. They are quite careful to keep the number at a viable breeding population, but balance it with the number of caribou herds, and it’s the most efficient way to do it. Oh, and most states charge for rape kits, INCLUDING ILLINOIS.

  40. Something that made my day yesterday (wish I’d had a camera): A car in a store parking lot with a Hillary bumper sticker… and a McCain sticker next to it! 😀

  41. I had the “qualification” argument with a friend yesterday. (Male of course.) He said that Obama was qualified to be president but Palin wasn’t. I said, “She’s running for Vice President and she has more executive experience than Obama does, who is running for President.”

    He also claimed that Obama wasn’t referring to Palin when he said lipstick on a pig.

    I said, “Then why hasn’t he apologized for so many people ‘misconstruing’ his comment?”

    It was kind of fun….;-)

  42. It must be nice to be a man in America. Your abilities are almost never questioned. One almost imagines American men waking up in the morning and quietly uttering the prayer, “Oh God I thank thee that I was not born an American woman.”
    ———————————————————————–
    It must be nice to be a man in any country, for that matter, thanking the invisible man, who lives in the sky, and has superpowers, that they aren’t a woman, no matter what country.

    No consequences, no buy in.
    If you happen to be sleeping with men who have been the heirs, by virtue of being born with a peni.s, to unearned / undeserved privilege, stop sleeping with them until they actively buy in. My guess is things would change at lightning speed… either that or they’d all kill each other, being periodically ‘testy’. ::::::shrug:::::

  43. OMG! McCaskill just said on This Week that the Republican Party wants to put women in prison after they’ve been raped!

    the Dems are losing it…

  44. Here are the reasons to vote for McCain/Palin as posted at NQ:

    Comment by ????????????
    September 14th, 2008 at 10:45 am
    In a direct and honest head to head comparison of Palin versus Obama -— I can think of a number of categories where Sarah Palin would be superior to Obama….

    – Undeniable or disputable love and loyalty to America.
    – Undeniable or disputable non-Muslim background or roots.
    – No felons as close friends or advisers.
    – No minister/mentor who is a black racist rabble rouser.
    – No American Terrorists as friend, advisor and fund raiser.
    – No convicted felon who assisted in a self admitted “bone head” real estate deal.
    – No suspicious money coming from Hamas or the PLO…
    – No endorcements from the leaders of Islamic or weeny European government leaders.
    – Never voted to kill babies who survived an abortion.
    – Never criticized America military, or doubted our RIGHT to pursue and kill our enemy wherever we may find them.
    – Never endorsed or praised the pimp Mayor of Detroit, who is now going to jail.
    – Not a close friend or admirer of “Calypso Louie” Farrakhan.
    – Not ashamed to wear the American Flag pin or salute the flag of our nation.
    – Never supported Washington, D.C. law banning the right to own a firearm and keep it in one’s home – which USSC overruled.
    – Never made a trip to Pakistan as a “student”..
    – Never attended classes on the Koran at an Islamic school.
    – Never held a passport from Indonesia.
    – Never admitted doing drugs, including cocaine.
    – Never accused of having a homosexual relationship.
    – Never worked within the Chicago Political Machine.
    – Never confronted the corruption in the city government, he “served” as a community organizer.
    – Never named the most Leftist member of any group, as Obama has been named in the Senate.
    – Palin’s husband quit a job in the Oil Fields to avoid conflict of interest – Obama’s wife accepted a $300,000 salary from a hospital after her husband secured a large “ear mark” for the same hospital..
    – Palin has been proud and defensive of America – her ENTIRE adult life, contrary to Obama and his wife.
    – I could go on…….but you get the drift…

    Obama is worse that a black racist empty suit..
    There is NOTHING in his life of “accomplishments” to indicate this angry arrogant man is WORTHY or TRUSTWORTHY to even retain his position in the Senate to say nothing of being the President….”

    I’m just saying CAROL HAKA 👿

  45. LisaDawn

    If I had a nickel for everytime I heard a man whine while I was in. I came in during a time where women had to have beeter scores, weren’t allowed to have GEDs(unlike their male counterparts), weren’t allowed to be nukes, and weren’t able to go on combat ships. Did I whine? Nope. Yet there were oodles of men that were all sorts of up in arms over the fact that women were allowed extra body fat and got more time to run. Boo friggin hoo, It’s not fair they’d say. Fair? Geez, you have got to be kidding me.

  46. WaPo has a hit piece on Palin today, too. The headline is: “As Mayor of Wasilla, Palin Cut Own Duties, Left Trail of Bad Blood.”

    I didn’t read the story; the headline was enough to put me off.

  47. PENIS YEARS … what a great expression and i have no doubt it will make it into the universal slang and colloquiallisms we willbe using in the future!!
    tTo add to the penis year definition
    The measurements of PENIS YEARS …. as with fishing … are usually not well defined by any specific or traditional system and are always greatly exaggerated…

  48. Dances: Nahhh, I suspect that if they were deprived of sex with women long enough, they would find each other extraordinarily attractive within a short period of time, not that there’s anything wrong with that. In short order, there would be a *NEW* New Testament re-writing the rules.

  49. Joanelle, you may want to check your state’s rules for write-ins. In some states a write-in for Hillary will be counted for Obama (since Hillary is a Democrat). Not sure if that is an issue for you or not but I just thought it deserved mentioning.

  50. swanspirit: ROTF!!! Too, too, funny! I’m adding it to the frontpage.

  51. grayslady – You could tell your best friend not to worry. If Sarah Palin succeeds you McCain (yet hope nothing happens to him), she can pick a VP to replace her with lots of experience. Recall Gerald Ford tapped Nelson Rockefeller when Nixon resigned. Of course, Ford had lots of experience in Washington, and Rockefeller had lots for experience in his home state as the Governor of New York (not elected to federal office, as I recall, yet ran for president in ’64 against Barry Goldwater for the Republican nomination. That was w-a-a-a-y back when they had people called “Liberal Republicans”. Mayor John Lindsey of NYC in the ’60’s was another one. I realize many of you may not remember that or have been born yet. Now, Repubs are only allowed to go as far as say they are “Moderate” Republicans, and on a good day, perhaps “Progressive”, or “Reformer” , or “Maverick”. Gosh! That sounds something like the ticket the Repubs have now! (Although, I realize it depends on the issue of interest to you.)

    Anyway, why not ask you best friend if the head of the ticket choosing someone with more experience as a VP is not, in fact, analogous to Palin ascending, and what we have with Obama and Biden. Why is that acceptable, but having a VP, required to fill out a term as POTUS, pick a replacement VP with more, different, or complimentary experience, is not?

    grayslady, I wish you luck in your persuasion and debate with your best friend. Let us know how it goes.

    Folks, the failure of presumably reasonable people to see this analogy both astounds and aggravates me. Makes me wonder: What’s in that Kool-aid?

  52. How to Cast a Write-In Vote
    NJ’s new machine makes it much easier to cast your vote for a write-in candidate. You don’t need paper, pens or pencils anymore.

    First, scan the ballot screen for the write-in column and then identify the office for which you want to cast a write-in vote. Then push the button. The lighted X should begin flashing inside the box that you’ve selected.

    Then look to the bottom of the machine and locate the text screen to your left and the keyboard to its right. Using the keyboard, type in the name of the person for whom you wish to vote. When you’re finished typing, check the text screen to make sure that you’ve spelled everything correctly and press the green “Enter” button. The lighted X has stopped flashing. Your write-in vote has been stored. Once you have pressed the green “Enter” button, you cannot change your write in vote. So be carefull before you press that button

  53. MABlue, yeah I’m stoopid like that. To show the depths of my stoopidity, I don’t understand how spending millions of dollars on a stage set is supposed to impress me with Obama’s fiscal responsibility and frugality. How’s the man gonna make a dent in our huge deficit with such spending habits? I just don’t see it. But I guess that’s cuz I’m stoopid. 😀

  54. CWaltz,

    Yeah, the whining about the PT standards was childish. Things are slowly changing. I can say that I was paid the same as men were for doing the same job. The rub was that I wasn’t always allowed to do the same jobs as the men.

    But necessity due to manpower requirements is forcing the military to change the way they do things. Heck, when the aircraft carrier the USS Ronald Regean came out of the yards the ship’s Command Master Chief (CMC) was a woman. Now that same woman is the CMC of the Navy Inspector General’s Office. That would have never happen 10 years ago.

    Thins are changing. Slowly, but they are changing.

  55. The Obama campaign said Sunday it had raised $66 million in the month of August. The new total bests the campaign’s previous high of $55 million, which came in February during his tough primary fight with Hillary Clinton.

    I’m sorry, but how can somebody who can’t even break 50% in the polls raise so much money legally. I don’t buy it. I wish I had the resource to investigate because that’s where the real story is. This kind of fundraising is just not possible. that money is being funnelled in somehow from a few very rich backers.

  56. Riverdaughter,

    Thank you for this brilliant post! Awhile back someone (I think it was Pat J.) suggested that you should collect your essays and publish them in a book. If you couldn’t interest a traditional publisher, maybe we pumas could do something like FDL did when they raised money to publish emptywheel’s book?

  57. gary – I find it very fishy too..

  58. consolation though, is that when he raised that record 55 million in february, he still couldn’t beat hillarly…

  59. Gary,

    How would we go about researching that? Do you know? What if some of us worked together on it?

  60. The whole meme about charging for rape kits is misleading.

    In the post-Proposition 13 (a property tax revolution that swept the nation years ago) world, government tries to recover expenses whereever possible.

    The hospitals bill police agencies for rape exams. Like any emergency room procedure, the exams aren’t cheap.

    If the victim has medical insurance, the police try to recover the cost from the insurance provider. If the rapist is caught and convicted, they are ordered to repay those costs as part of their punishment (but they won’t be paying until they get out, which hopefully won’t be for a very long time)

    The police do not demand that the victim pay out of pocket for the exams.

    If you were shot or stabbed, the hospital would treat you whjether or not you have insurance, but they will expect to eventually be paid by someone, even if you don’t survive.

  61. Liberty Belle–Good points. In other words, the worst that happens is that Sarah Palin ends up in the same position as Obama–selecting a more experienced VP to help her govern. As long as it’s not one of the true Repub jackasses like Coburn or Inhofe, there should be no problems.

  62. bb…i’;m not even sure, but I would be willing to work on it if we could get a groupd and kind of brainstorm. All of that info has to be public, right? Isn’t that how the whole Hsu thing came out?

  63. Gary,

    From your link:

    The Obama campaign also said more than 500,000 new donors contributed last month, bringing the total number of donors to more than 2.5 million, and reported cash on hand of more than $77 million.

    I wonder how many of those donors gave under $200 and thus don’t have to be reported by name?

  64. gary: I also doesn’t make sense when you take into account the Obama finance guy saying that Illinois fundraising had been “extremely anemic”. If I might hazard a guess, maybe they are counting the money that is being funneled to the DNC through the Obama campaign. Donors can make $2300 donations to the general election fund and $28,000 to the DNC. Plus, it *could* be that many people gave up on Clinton and were assimilated, though not quite enough for Obama to win.
    Maybe they are counting the money that ATT gave for the convention in August.
    But whatever the source, it hasn’t proven to be a winning formula for Obama in the past. He spent a $%@^load of money on the primaries and wasn’t able to close the deal in PA, OH, NY, NJ, CA, MA, etc, etc. Money can’t buy you love. He might be the billion dollar albatross when this is all through but he will still be a loser.

  65. “The problem was not Hillary Clinton, though I am beginning to wonder what she did to the media that makes them carry this permanent grudge and unstoppable urge to crush her.”

    The truth: Hillary Clinton refused to suck up to Sally Quinn when Clinton first came to Washington. It really is as simple as that.

  66. BB: Only $77 Million COH??? They are spending almost as quickly as they are taking in. That’s bad. The government just cut a check for McCain for $84 Million and the RNC is flush. JAY-sus, the Obots must be sweating bullets. They can’t keep this up without a huge infusion of money. Where is it going to come from now that the convention is over?

  67. Joseph Cannon: “Can anyone name three major issues on which Obama has NOT lied?”

    I can’t name one. Can you?

  68. grayslady – Thank you for acknowledging, and I appreciate the feedback. Sometimes I wonder: don’t other people get it? Perhaps now they will. I agree with you – we don’t need a jackass Republican replacement to help her govern, and I still say she has the option of going bi-partisan and choosing Hillary!

  69. RD: I noticed that. It’s amazing how much the campaign has spent to be where they are right now–trailing McCain and dropping like a stone.

  70. Well, it seems there’s got to be some real, honest to goodness journalist left in this country who would want to uncover the greed, fraud, smarminess of this crew and what the real story is about the Dem convention.

  71. RD,

    That is why Obama is trying to signal to any Dems 527’s out there to ignore his previous request. I wonder if Markos will cough up his $2300 now? I bet not.

  72. Before I finish reading through the comments, I have to share the remark Judas Richardson just made on Wolfe Blitzer’s show:
    “Obama will bring people together.”

    HAHAHAHAHA!! Like he brought the Democratic Party together!

    What stupidity! He should never have brought THAT up – but I think the Obama campaign is completely out of gas with nothing left to say/offer. McCain even stole his wind yesterday with his IKE statement touching on the economy – which evidently blew past Obama’s ear.
    McCain pitches/ Obama doesn’t make it into the box. AGAIN!

  73. I noticed that the media’s wankfest over Palin’s interview with Gibson has kinda dropped off the radar, after just one day.

    It seems that the public wasn’t buying the spin, especially when it turned ot Gibson misquoted her and didn’t know what he was talking about regarding the “Bush doctrine.”

    WKJM still puts “liar” in every headline though

  74. Susan Nunes: You know, I used to think this was a preposterous claim. How could Sally effing Quinn keep this intensity of dislike up for so damn long? But I’m beginning to think there is something to it. Not only that but I think gender is at the heart of Quinn’s grudge as well. Hillary came to Washington thinking that she was equal to her husband. We all see now that this was a correct assumption on her part. She probably wasn’t into the Quinn cocktail scene for the same reason that most of *us* don’t want to be joiners in our own petty neighborhood soirees. It’s BOOOORRRRIIINNGG. I hate to have to flatter people who can’t think outside the box and rely on the social mannerisms and amiability of a Jane Austen novel for entertainment. I’ve got better things to talk about than who offended who at the community pool.
    And then she had the nerve to fire the White House travel office staff and piss off all of the “journalists” who enjoyed the perks and gossip with the White House staff.
    It all goes back to that with Hillary. The rest is guilt by association with Bill.
    What petty, destructive people. I hope something tropical and fungal happens to Sally and her gang. Disgusting.

  75. They were complaining that they weren’t raising enough money and that was Hillary’s fault, and now suddenly they have $66 million?

  76. Sally Nunes – Correct. Hillary refused to go to Sally Quinn for advice on how “things are done in DC.”

    Sally Quinn is still frosted by it.

  77. Start Your Engines!

    McCain will be speaking at the Sylvania 300 (LIVE on ABC at 1:00 pm EST) in New Hampshire today.

    This is genius!

    McCain will get to talk with voters in New Hampshire and the added bonus is that it is a NASCAR event!

    The Sylvania 300 will be LIVE on ABC beginning at 1:00 pm EST.

    Just read an article that McCain will address the crowd at the Sylvania 300 over the PA system and give the command to the drivers: Start Your Engines!

    LOVE IT!!

    McCain-Palin ’08
    Hillary ’12

  78. myiq – talking with a not too politically involved colleague yesterday and she asked if I thought that that Gibson was harsh and very slanted. “It seemed he was trying to make her look bad”

  79. You guys, we have to do a post on the analysis of the race from the beginning in terms of Penis Years. It all makes perfect sense now. If we can viral it, maybe we can open some eyes. It’s a very easy concept to grasp. Penis Years could be the song with a bullet.

  80. genius!

  81. bostonboomer – Add to that: If not out-right lied, what about the Obama flip-flops? Are his flip-flops sometimes like, “just kidding, folks”?

    Recent Example: BHO admitted in an interview with O’Reilly last week that the surge in Iraq had merit. I believe this was in part because he was getting heat even from some MSM pundits. Of course, Obama is all about good or superior judgement to Hillary, McCain, etc. right?

  82. Haaaaappppeeenisssss

    My sister attended a Catholic College … the intials of which spell C.O.N.D.O.M.
    yeaah goood old CONDOM…. run by the Good Sisters of Notre Dame who are said to be the roughest toughest out there …
    So…. I got to attend cool stuff there sometimes .. and one of the most memorable events for me was a lecture by a speaker who was teaching rape prevention.
    The College Admin were all there making a nice black and white seat row , clearly distinct from the remainder of the audience in the usual campus variety many colors of casual dress .
    At one point , the speaker was emphasising how to desensitize yourself from words so that your reactions in a high stress and even life threatening situation could be less panicked and more thoughtful , thus increasing your chances of escape with your life .
    When he happened to say the word PENIS an audible shocked reaction( this was some years ago ) went thru the audience . He stopped the lecture and repeated the word PENIS PENIS PENIS over and over again many times… and then said very loudly , it is a WORD !!! get over it so you can save your life.
    At that ….the entire black and white row stood up as unit and DEPARTED in a huff …..
    I laughed out loud ( there were good reasons I was not attending a Catholic College teeehee) , and some people got very quiet… but no one else left and the speaker finiished the lecture..
    But the speakers advice stayed with me … it is a word … GET OVER IT …
    so if the phrase ” get over it “has any relevancy or bearing whatsoever in this campaign , it would seem to be most applicable in retaliation of anyone using the measurement of PENIS YEARS as qualification for office . 🙂

    I love this blog ……..

  83. gary: the fundraising numbers also completely contradict the recent assertions that they were having problems raising money. They are either liars or cheats–most likely, both.

  84. I just found this. Our soldiers are wonderful and can even have fun in times of great stress. We need someone who respects each and everyone of them.

    CAROL HAKA 👿

  85. I lost my gravatar! Now I’m an amoeba throwing a temper tantrum. Where’s my umbrella!

  86. myiq2xu, on September 14th, 2008 at 10:57 am Said:

    Why do I get the feeling that “lauren” has a penis and it is factory equipment? (of the “subcompact” variety)

    ==========

    LOL. Yeah. I think “Lauren” overplayed with the “sisters” and the “thirty years of teaching women’s history.” Poor sweeties, they are lost and fumbling the lines. Script!

  87. Obamanation seems to think they can create their own reality.

    “Keep calling Palin a liar and a warmonger. If we say it enough times, people will believe it.”

    Somebody should tell them that if they want to be believed, they need to have credibility. And for some reason, the first thing people do after they start drinking the kool-aid is to take whatever credibility they have and chuck it away.

  88. In the ten years I’ve been in Texas my voted has not counted – not for president, senate, house, governor.

    When I vote in a Democratic presidential primary and I vote with 100,000 on my side, I expect my vote to count.

    It didn’t.

    Any Democrat that tells me how important it is to vote and to vote Democrat can take a flying leap.

  89. RD:

    Hillary came to Washington thinking that she was equal to her husband. We all see now that this was a correct assumption on her part. She probably wasn’t into the Quinn cocktail scene f

    And then she had the nerve to fire the White House travel office staff and piss off all of the “journalists” who enjoyed the perks and gossip with the White House staff.
    It all goes back to that with Hillary.

    So, um, WHO was the real “change” candidate.

  90. McCain will be speaking at the Sylvania 300 (LIVE on ABC at 1:00 pm EST) in New Hampshire today.

    Yea, and Barry went home for the weekend. This guy has the weakest work ethic. He’s either whining because it’s “too hard,” and he’s so tired, or he’s taking a break. They complain about McCain’s age? Who’s working on Sunday–the 72 yr. old or the 47 yr. old? And I think we all know what Hillary would be doing if she were the nominee. She’d be down in Texas, helping engineer the clean up and boosting morale.

    Actions reveal character.

  91. alice – They never learn. Using “sisters” and “teaching women’s history” are tells .

    Where can I go to reinstate my old gravatar?

  92. My perception is that the media actually seems to have more resentment against Hillary than against Bill.

    And now they’re trashing Palin in a similar way.

    It does seem to go back to gender.

  93. Jmac – NJ voters know your pain. See RD @10:35.

  94. Wohoo I am flattered and honored to be on the front page… thank you !!! RD
    Lets make PENIS YEARS a household expression heeeehheee ..

  95. PENIS YEARS Something like the 3/5ths act.

  96. Gary and RD,

    According to OpenSecrets.org, Obama raised $50,113,031 in July and spent $55,910,199! I wonder how much he spent in August?

  97. It doesn’t make any difference how much money O brings in. McCain was flat broke; Romney was flush with personal cash – so what. The Republicans let the voters decide.

    O needs votes. He can throw money away all he wants – you can’t buy the nascar voter. Didn’t we learn anything with Kerry? You need a message, not money.

  98. RD – Love it – if the Obots have been able to use viral tactics we can too.
    But, there is language we use here that some of us tolerate, some of us use all the time and that some of us use in the heat of outrage – but let us not turn anyone – ANYONE off to supporting a viral approach simply because of the words we use.
    Let us keep it open, let us embrace those who are afraid of speaking openly but can participate online. Inclusivity is always better than exclusivity – I’ve managed to get a few staunch Obama followers to see his weaknesses simply through inclusion.
    Having two sons and lots of their friends “hanging out” at our house, I felt like I was living in a mens’ locker room half the time. So although it’s on the money, I can just see some of my friends cringing at “Penis years” and finding it a complete turn off to us and what we were saying. And frankly I want to get the message of what happened to as many people as possible.

  99. RD, thank you so much for this post. People–women and men both–need to hear and understand this.

    Last night I watched a D.C.-themed movie called “The Walker,” filled with the empty lives of otherwise intelligent Washington women. Unsettling. One desperate character explains political sexism this way:

    “They don’t want women. They don’t need women. They f*ck each other.”

    In the gang-bang debates, you see, Hillary was in the way.

    On two tickets that should be dominated by four men, Palin is in the way now.

    To a press corps that wants to blow BO, Palin is in the way.

    That is why Palin is being attacked. Not McCain.

    Every day I watch “this woman,” I am more impressed. Like Hillary, she is not backing down.

    I respect and honor these two women, who are doing their utmost to get the 21st century off to a different start than the last 20.

  100. Here’s a stumper question for Obama supporters:

    “Name one major policy position where Obama differs clearly and significantly from McCain”

    Obama’s positions are so weasel-worded that it’s hard to tell what he means, but the differences between the two sides are really minor.

    Here’s a bonus question for any smug answer the Obots give:

    “How can you prove Obama really believes that, and how can you be sure that he will keep his word?”

  101. joanelle – I can’t see any other way to express it than to use the phrase penis years…

    it’s brilliant in its simplicity.

  102. plural (and I love your handle):
    They were complaining that they weren’t raising enough money and that was Hillary’s fault,
    and now suddenly they have $66 million?
    —————————————————————————–
    Shady $$$$.
    When is blaming Hillary going to stop? Isn’t this getting a little old? Isn’t this finally his campaign to lose?

  103. Penis Years? hmm…..ahhhh….ohhh…..uhhhh

  104. Carly debating Claire. It was hysterical.

    Carly never looked at Claire. Claire went off on a tirade and Carly made her points.

  105. I sincerely believe we are witnessing misogyny in action, particularly from the MSM and the left. Just look at what’s happened. It was non-stop Hillary bashing throughout the primary season. At the convention, the DNC pretended to love women again, but that all fell apart the nanosecond Palin was selected as VP candidate. It’s so predictable. All these arguments have been used against women in the work-place for decades.

    First attack: Women are incapable of simultaneously handling family and professional responsibilities. A married man with children is considered to be more responsible–the “breadwinner” meme. A woman with kids at home is unreliable because kids get sick, and require attention–the “caregiver” meme.

    Second attack: Women are incapable of having any innate leadership abilities; they must be “taught” to lead. Men who rise quickly through the employment ranks are talented–the “rising star” meme. Women who rise quickly are considered risky picks because they can’t handle a job without training –the “little lady” meme.

    Third attack: (This is where we’re at now, imo) Women are incapable of asserting themselves in a cool, calm way. A man who takes charge is a firm leader–the “in control” meme. A woman who assertively sets the rules is considered to be an aggresive, vindictive person–the “ball-buster” meme.

    I would guess that every woman over 40 has seen all of these memes in action at the work-place. That’s why they’re not working for so many of us.

  106. You all should see how the obamabots are going insane now that Obama’s “email” attack ad where he attacks McCain for the injuries he suffered is now being exposed!!

    Jake Tapper over at ABC exposes Obama’s “email” ad attack against John McCain.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/why-doesnt-mcca.html

    The Obamabots are crying!

    ********BREAKING********
    We need to be aware what the new Obama plan of attack is.

    I give you the Obama surrogate Sen Claire McCaskill…

    This morning on This Week, McCaskill attacked John McCain’s on his age and bout with skin cancer.

    Can you believe this BS form the Obama campaign?!!

    Obama Surrogate Attacks McCain for Age, Cancer

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-surrogate.html

    D E S P E R A T E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  107. I just watched the SNL skit, and though I love Tina Fey & Amy Poehler, and did laugh at points, I am always turned off by the way Hillary is portrayed as a self-centered, power hungry creature. It’s not funny, because that is the way she has been mischaracterized and it’s had a powerful long-term effect on low-info voters. Amy & Tina should know better than to contribute to that cartoonish depiction, satire or not.

  108. I am in a cranky mood today. Computer acting wierd. Out of work for a month. Insomnia. No gravatar.

    I think I’ll go for a walk and drink some water.

    grrrrrrr….

  109. I agree we should leave sex organs out of this campaign. I appreciate both sets.

  110. Still4Hill–Nothing is ever Obama’s fault. Teh One has the following hierarchy in place when it comes to laying blame when things go wrong:

    1. The Clintons
    2. His overzealous staff
    3. Us (because we didn’t hear what he said correctly)

    When all of that fails, he just says that we’re in the ‘silly’ season.

  111. I agree indigogrrl I just don’t want to turn off anyone.

    Shady: they’ll never stop blaming the “girls” or the Clinton’s for that matter

  112. This morning on This Week, McCaskill attacked John McCain’s on his age and bout with skin cancer.

    Make room for the latest newcomers under the bus: cancer survivors!

    It just goes to show that they are completely out of ideas. They do not know how to go forward with any kind of substantial or imaginative argument for electing BO. As pathetic and repulsive as it is, it reveals a lot about the current state of his campaign.

  113. fif: did you tell Tina and Amy? A letter goes a long way with “showbusiness” types.

  114. Have to post this comment from the Tapper blog:

    What I’ve learned from this election cycle is:
    1. Ageism is ok.
    2. Sexism and misogyny is ok
    3. Muslim-phobia is ok
    4. Racism is not ok against African Americans
    5. Racism is ok against Caucasians

    Barack Obama is responsible for 4 out of 5 of these.

    Posted by: JA | Sep 14, 2008 11:42:50 AM
    ======================================

    very nice summary.

    Just saw a news headline- AP poll: Whites help McCain to slim lead…….

    WHAT YOU WILL NEVER SEE IS THIS:

    100% BLACK SUPPORT KEEPS (the ridiculously inexperienced) OBAMA AFLOAT.

    McCain-Palin ’08
    Hillary ’12

  115. McCain may not use the computer, but he has never said he “hit the wrong button” in his vote.

  116. Katiebird,

    On that Hominid Views map, there are only two states that I can see in dark blue (strong for Obama): Vermont and Hawaii. Even Illinois is light blue.

  117. abuela @ 12:07 – Excellent analysis.

    Third attack is ironic because OB is thought to be “cool” and women get “exercised” (his word). Truth – he is slow – to process and to produce. Doesn’t understand (is not very bright) and can’t respond – um -uh-quickly.

  118. garychapelhill, on September 14th, 2008 at 11:26 am Said:

    I’m sorry, but how can somebody who can’t even break 50% in the polls raise so much money legally. I don’t buy it. I wish I had the resource to investigate because that’s where the real story is. This kind of fundraising is just not possible. that money is being funnelled in somehow from a few very rich backers.

    =========

    The BO Show is starting to remind me of those Soviet announcements that would constantly trumpet that they’re produced 574% more grain, while everyone smiles.

  119. Carol–I’m glad that McCain doesn’t use a computer. That means he won’t be surfing for porn while he’s on the job.

  120. My daughter’s friend (now living in Japan) is aghast to learn that I’m not in fear and loathing of Palin. What I don’t understand is why Obama’s 20-year relationship with his church and the pastors in his church doesn’t put a little fear in Obama supporters. Who in the heck knows where he stands? We do know he will expand Bush’s faith-based initiatives. We do know in the beginning he came up with a health care plan that was not fiscally responsible and certainly not Democratic. I’m more in fear of where he will take the Democratic party than I am in McCain’s choice of a VP.

  121. Re: TypeGate: Tapper says that the McCain Campaign even discouraged him from revealing that he avoids repetitive tasks such as typing due to his war wounds.

    I wish they would exploit it and make a commercial, slamming the inept O campaign again for their ignorance and insensitivity.

  122. And one more from that blog Iposted above:

    Posted by: Pablo | Sep 14, 2008 12:00:47 PM

    Obama’s next ad:

    John McCain doesn’t even own a Playstation. Can America afford a President who doesn’t know how to play Doom?

    I’m Barack Obama and I approve this message.

    Genius!! LMAO!!

  123. joanelle – IMHO those that would get turned off probably wouldn’t agree with the idea agree anyway.

    we’re 2 lesbos that raised 3 boys — yah had to use the penis word once or twice! 🙂

  124. OldCoastie, on September 14th, 2008 at 11:12 am Said:

    OMG! McCaskill just said on This Week that the Republican Party wants to put women in prison after they’ve been raped!

    the Dems are losing it…

    ========

    This is the kind of crap that backfires and increasingly, sickens.

    This is the kind of crap that makes me wonder who the good guys are.

  125. piper – you are too young to be discussing porn. Go to your room, I’m telling your mother.

  126. Carol, on September 14th, 2008 at 12:13 pm Said:
    McCain may not use the computer, but he has never said he “hit the wrong button” in his vote.

    Brilliant!! 🙂

  127. Jmac: your daughter’s friend is only get the TV/Facebook version of the 2 candidates:

    O = World Savior
    Palin = wolf hunting, right wing-nut, redneck baby neglecter

  128. Still4Hill: “McCain pitches/ Obama doesn’t make it into the box. AGAIN!”

    **********

    LOL. I really shouldn’t laugh but it’s funny, in a sad sort of way, to see the so-called “old geezer” completely outmaneuver the “fresh, new” candidate again, and, yes, AGAIN.

  129. alice, on September 14th, 2008 at 12:17 pm Said:

    WOW!

  130. I vote for Penis Years.

    I agree with Mawm and RD. We have elevated discussions here, yes, but we also need to use the power of mock and shock; of shake as well as stir. Being lady-like alone hasn’t gotten us and isn’t going to get us where where we need to be.

    The suffragists were loud and badly behaved.

    So were the women of the 70’s.

    Now Steinem is little Miss Prim, advising us to stay away from Nasty Sarah.

    And the 88th anniversary of women’s suffrage was used and intended to ghettoize Hillary, and all women, in a well-behaved display of public subordination.

    Backsliding. Politeness. Fear. Self-censorship:

    It’s what hegemony thrives on.

    Yup, I can thrown around those elevated, academic words too.

    And I can also say this:

    My time as a voter has come.

    And those who, male or female, degrade, denigrate, or discount my gender can back off, f*ck off, or go home.

  131. alice – Wow! It never fails – we keep coming back to that soviet model with this guy and now this party.

    I work hard and fall in that lowest swath on the tax reform scale.
    Long ago I learned – and I think it’s women who learn this because of incidents like the one cited by RD in this post – that the principle behind that strategy:
    “To each according to need/From each according to ability” leaves women in the dust.

  132. Joanelle: I’m sure they know. Tina was a courageous Hillary supporter in the midst of Hollywood BotWorld. I know it’s comedy, but they are just reinforcing old stereotypes about Hillary, and considering what we’ve seen this year, it’s just not funny at all.

  133. I’m so looking forward to the transition period of November 5, 2008 to January 20, 2009. Cindy is going to be a “spirtually beautiful” First Lady, McCain will be a strong, determined President, The Palin family will be fun to watch, and Hillary will be able to start her campaign for 2012, while the Bo’s will be headed back to Chicago with no SS, no cocktail parties, no jet, not perks, no WH, and no future. I’m sure Oprah will have them on her show before he tanks.

    McCain/Palin 2009

    Hillary 2012

    CAROL HAKA 👿

  134. Joanelle,

    I’m not sure I agree with you. Look how much attention we have gotten with “Party Unity My Ass.” Speaking of which, where is SM?

  135. Before “Oprah” tanks.

  136. Carol,

    It’s good to see you. Did the storm hit in your part of TX? How are you doing?

  137. gary: I read a post at NoQuarter today about Florida. Obama has sunk millions into the state, and McCain just started advertising last week. Despite that, his support has been steadily eroding since July, and his ratings are behind Kerry’s at this time in his campaign.

    As RD said: money can’t buy you love. We saw that all over the country.

  138. Carol, the beauty of it is Oprah has “promised’ to have Palin on after the election.

    Under your scenario, I can’t wait, and at that point will happily quit boycotting her.

  139. I’ve meant to comment on this before…

    “My Brook must repeat a year of pre-algebra while her nationally ranked peers proceed to enriched algebra. Why? In spite of the fact that her test scores all year were A level, she didn’t do her homework. Until she learns to do it, the fact that she scores in the top 2% nationally in math among 12 year olds is of absolutely no value to her teachers. ”

    As a former girlchild and a mathematician, I sympathize with what your daughter is going through. Really, it causes me pain. (For kids who do pick up math easily, the routine homework, that’s designed to drill things into the head, is tedious beyond belief and mostly not needed. I’m appalled that they’re making her do this.)

    Just a symptom of so much that is wrong.

  140. bb: Thanks. We just got a lot of rain and it is clear today!

  141. Arabella – did you get the gravatar from WordPress? If so, open WordPress – when you go to leave a comment on this blog, you should see something that says that your are logged in and your gravatar should appear. I used the other site for mine – I think it was engravatar.com and my gravatar follows me around, just like my dog!

  142. Palin has better things to do than go on Oprah. Oprah can take a flying leap.

  143. Lyn5: re your NYT quote on Palin:

    “Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.”

    Does anyone think BO would be different as Prez. If it weren’t for his “blurred line between [winning] and personal grievance,” he would have ask Hillary to be VP.

  144. Carol,

    That’s good. I haven’t seen you lately. Glad everything is OK in your neck of the woods.

  145. Looks as if Jack Tapper is exposing the Obama “1982” advert. (McCain can’t send an e-mail.)

    Oooo. The trolls are going to be here in force this afternoon,

  146. I love that my gravatar (green triangle=”criminal”) has extension cords flying out its head that seem to be in search of something (perhaps a polticial Party?) to plug into, but can find no compatible voltage.

  147. From her recent comments at TalkLeft, it appears that Jeralyn isn’t trying to persuade any independent voters, she is trying to “motivate the base”

    That is an admission that she considers herself to be engaged in propaganda.

  148. IronMan – The Obots are going crazy about Tapper.

    Note that McCain is using the “disrespect” meme well in countering attacks from Obama supporters. Claire Mc. attacks McCain based on his age and his bout with cancer?

    McCain’s spokesperson calls it “disrespectful.”

  149. wonderful posat as always RD

    The problem was not Hillary Clinton, though I am beginning to wonder what she did to the media that makes them carry this permanent grudge and unstoppable urge to crush her

    She wants UHC and cares about the working person.
    For this, IMO, the media and its owners have sworn a blood oath to crush her! We have been trained
    by 16 years of Clinton bashing to accept this as normal and see it as simply a result of Hillary’s” high negatives”……High negatives created by the lacky press and its owners .

  150. About Palin going on Oprah – I am surprised that Ellen has not already anounced that Sarah will be on her show. It will happen.

    Ellen’s rankings are way up and she has a much more diverse viewing audience. Ellen now beats Oprah in the “who do you trust” category. Sarah would be comfortable there and it would be a fun hen party.

  151. Thanks for the suggestion, Delphyne!

  152. Carol, on your Oprah comment, I agree.

    If [please, yes] McCain/Palin pull out a win over O’biden, they prove they didn’t need Oprah, and her influence over the wimmin was perhaps, ah, over-touted.

  153. Dee: Palin on Ellen? Gosh, that would be a hoot. Great idea!

  154. Brook didn’t do her homework?

    Well, so much for RD ever becoming President. She’s obviously a bad mother

    Sarah Palin probably didn’t make her kids do their homework either. Has anyone checked on that yet?

    /snark

  155. Penis Years – I’m reminded of a classrom activity for earth science, where students create the Geologic Time Scale on paper, using one meter as a billion years. (Note: You get a big roll of paper, or what used to be called “accounting paper” for this one.) A meter stick was used to mark the intervals for each epoch, or a scale of 1 meter = billion years, etc. so the students could visually get a feel for how recently humans appeared, the Ice Ages occurred, and how far back the dinosaurs roamed the earth.

    Following this example, I propose we establish a comparison of the “Penis vs. Non-Penis Years Time Scale”, with the proposed metric for five years of experience for homo sapiens with a penis being equivalent to one year for homo sapiens without. That way, we could use 20 centimeters = 1 year for humans without a penis – females (or 1/5 the time of males), and a full 100 centimeters = 1 meter = 1 year for humans with a penis – males.

    The “long and short of it”: the woman’s scale looks very packed in, and chock full of career (and possibly life) experiences when their paper scale is unfurled and compared alongside the man’s in the presidential race.

    Does that sound like a good teaching tool to you folks?

  156. Carol I could not agree with you more .. Oprah is irrelevant , other than as a glaring example of lack of fairness in the media ..news ..entertainment or otherwise…

  157. mwb, on September 14th, 2008 at 10:27 am Said:

    “I think we need to add a new term to the lexicon to sum up that prevalent bit of sexism. I’m calling it Penis Years* (not a coincidence that it echoes the term dog years.)”

    I think your in the right anatomical area, but I do not think that’s quite the problem. Warrior Princess hit on it I think. It’s the testosterone coursing through men’s bodies. It does bad – and good – things to us. It helps men be courageous in the face of danger, scared as they are. It assists, and urges,them sometimes do very dangerous and violent things. It pushes them to take risks and – to a point of RD’s post – it puts blinders on them as to the real abilities of women, who are just as strong and intelligent, but usually in a gentler, firmer, less erratic way.

    I’m not excusing men by attributing our bad behavior to our hormones. An intelligent and reflective man knows how to manage that issue. But many men do not, and there is little doubt that many testosterone-fired men do see women as second -class citizens.

    So I would rename the Penis Years as “The Years that Test(osteron)ed Us.”

  158. Partial Transcript from This Week, 9/14/08:

    MCCASKILL: But women of America are going to kick the tires the next 55 days, George, and they’re going to going to find out that this is a ticket that wants to put women in prison for having an abortion after they have been raped.

    This is a ticket that has — is opposed to equal pay for equal work. This is a ticket that does not embrace early childhood education. This is a ticket…

    STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me stop you with those three…

    MCCASKILL: … that is not good.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: … because Carly Fiorina is shaking her head there.

    FIORINA: Those are ridiculous charges, point one. But I think the important point here is that this is what the Democratic Party has done for years. It has tried to hold women hostage by frightening them on issues such as reproductive rights, Rove v. Wade.

    American women in this country will not be held hostage by the politics of fear on Roe v. Wade anymore. I know more many, many pro- choice women who are pro-McCain. And if we want to talk about equal pay for equal work, I think this once again is an example of John McCain walks the walk and Barack Obama talks the talk.

    And all you have to do is look inside their two Senate offices and assess how are women paid relative to men. In John McCain ’s office, women are paid more. In Barack Obama ’s office, women are paid less. That’s a fact.

    BOOYAH!!

    McCain-Palin ’08
    Hillary ’12

  159. Thanks for missing me. I started walking on the treadmill again last Monday. Also, I was able to take a couple of really good naps now that I feel good about McCain/Palin.

    I have to get myself back into shape. I was walking like a crazy person prior to January 3. After that I was spending all of my time reading everything trying to find some relief.

    I’m happy again and need to look that way.

  160. Also, now that Piper and Trig are staying over, Eddy and I have a lot to do.

    But, make no mistake about it, they are “simply fabulous”.

  161. Arabella Trefoil, on September 14th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Exactly. Good point. And it is disrespectful for sure!

    Obama and his surrogates showed NO RESPECT to Hillary. They stabbed her in the back and laughed about it. Now they are going with rabid personal attacks against McCain-Palin.

    And they want our votes?

    NO WAY! NO HOW! NOBAMA!!

  162. ABC LIVE coverage of Sylvania 300 in New Hampshire starting now!!

    McCain should be speaking at the NASCAR race today!

    START YOUR ENGINES!!

    Race begins in about one hour.

  163. well, thats a bit unfair. 🙂

  164. Riverdaughter,
    Read Rick Stiggins books on assessment for Brooke’s defense. As a 6th Grade teacher for the past 24 years, I agree that Brooke has passed her class and needs to contest the grade she has been “given’ by her teacher for not doing her Algebra homework. Brooke has “earned” passing scores on her assessments, and that is what should be used to determine her final score for her class. The teacher, principal, and school board denying her a passing mark are in serious error and should be challenged in court. Grades need to be granted on achievement, not homework completion. Read any book regarding grading policies by Rick Stiggins and you will find a wealth of information in Brooke’s defense of a passing grade.

  165. riverdaughter, on September 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am Said:

    Hillary came to Washington thinking that she was equal to her husband. We all see now that this was a correct assumption on her part.

    A republican guy once said that the reason he hated Hillary was because when BC was elected Hillary thought she was elected too. By that I think he meant having an office at the White House, fighting for UHC and basically working as an aide to BC. Misogynism has played an important part in the Hillary hatred from the right and now the left.

  166. MCCASKILL: But women of America are going to kick the tires the next 55 days, George, and they’re going to going to find out that this is a ticket that wants to put women in prison for having an abortion after they have been raped

    UNBELIEVABLE

    this is the level of intelligence of a U.S. Senator??

    To say this preposterous …much less to pretend to believe it ….
    They must be beyond desperate the future must look very scary to them and not because they are the slightest bit worred about abortion rights ..but their own personal careers …

  167. magdalena: 12:20

    “The suffragists were loud and badly behaved.

    So were the women of the 70’s.

    Now Steinem is little Miss Prim, advising us to stay away from Nasty Sarah.

    And the 88th anniversary of women’s suffrage was used and intended to ghettoize Hillary, and all women, in a well-behaved display of public subordination. ”
    —————————————————————————

    So many of us here – and Steinem – ARE the women of the 70’s.
    I think it was warrior princess upthread who reminded us of Stokely Carmichael’s assessment of the position of women in SNCC.
    That and so much else was what set us off in the 70’s. I guess we have to do it all over again.

    I’ll be a Hillary Harridan for the rest of my life – even PAST her swearing-in in 2012.

  168. Look like the Confluence needs to pull “tom” out of the flotsam and wash him downstream.

  169. riverdaughter, on September 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am Said:

    “Hillary came to Washington thinking that she was equal to her husband. We all see now that this was a correct assumption on her part. ”

    When Bill was selected as President I was in Seattle, and a man selling cigars asked us if we knew how great a job Clinton was doing. We asked: how was that? And he replied – as soon as she can get Bill out of the Oval
    Office she’ll do even better. It was street wisdom even then that Hillary had more than the talent, drive, intelligence, and character to be President.

  170. Oh, the point is I support Hillary Clinton. But calling it Penis Years is a bit too much for me. hope you understand. dee, dont think I’m to blame here, do you? There are many male hillary clinton supporters.

  171. I’m with Tom on this one. Sheet the blame, if you will, to our hormones, but not to our anatomy.

  172. Is Gloria gay again?

    that whole flip flop seemed very dysfunctional to me.. lol

    I always wondered…could just not take the pressure!

  173. eggplant – so you think its about hormones? Wow, just wow.

  174. Don Rock: Good advice to RD on Brooke’s situation.

    It’s another example of the rules changing for girls. NCLB, as Gary pointed out in yesterday’s post, makes the standardized test scores the rule. But let a girl make the score, and they find a way to punish her.

    That video of Hillary that Gary posted underlines the danger. How is Brooke supposed to stay motivated? She wasn’t even motivated to do homework last year. Now, in a remedial class, she’s supposed to be more motivated.

    That’s the kind of idiocy that turns girls off in math and science. Pisses me off!

  175. Dee, on September 14th, 2008 at 1:22 pm Said:

    “eggplant – so you think its about hormones? Wow, just wow.”

    In part. But offensive remarks about male anatomy do not raise the level of conversation.

  176. yeah. the Penis Years is just not appropriate. We are male hillary clinton supporters. and we deserve respect too. 🙂

  177. Tom
    “Penis Years” is not an attack on males as individuals … it is an attempt to portray an unfair concept and a practice ..and to change the concept and practice .by changing the language in a new and humorous way….

    The way bra burning did .. it is in a way “guerilla theatre of words”

  178. eggplant – what exactly was offensive in the original post?

    Seems you don’t want to “raise” the level conversation – you don’t want to have one at all. What you are afraid of?

  179. paperdoll said: “She wants UHC and cares about the working person.
    For this, IMO, the media and its owners have sworn a blood oath to crush her! We have been trained”

    I believe this is really the true issue. The health/medical industry is HUGE money maker. We’re talking hundreds of trillions of dollars that are at stake. No way they are going to let anyone do UHC. Remember they crushed the Clintons who pursued this agenda in Bill’s 1st term. An sure enough the first thing Obama’s people say after the convention is that UHC is a no starter.

  180. swanspirit – I think we should be thankful that the penis is in an area that is generally covered with clothing. Just imagine if it was instead situated on their face.

  181. swanspirit, Penis is a part of male anatomy. bra-burning is different. you can always call it the MCP years. male chauvinistic pigs. but mentioning anatomy is offensive. thats all I’m saying. dont go to the extreme. thats all. blame the chauvistic attitudes of the males. but lets lay off anatomy. 🙂 cos not all males are the same.

  182. clarification to post at 1:41pm – I should have added:

    Face placement would make it even more obvious and thus more important and way more powerful.

  183. tom – if the penis years reference doesn’t apply to you why are you being defensive?

  184. Brilliant editorial, RD! You should go mainstream with this. It captures exactly what I’ve thought for so very many years. Brava! Thank you.

  185. I have to agree about the health care industry and the insurance companies . Where is the AMA ??
    The people who benefit the most from the staus quo are strangely silent .

    The ANA endorsed Hillary …. The ANA is one of the most powerful laregly female organisations in this country that does not exert the power they have …
    The ANA alone could shut down health care in this country , if they ever realised ,owned, and used their power . They could at minimum change the face of health care in this country .

  186. Something I posted at ABC because it is so important that people understand what’s REALLY happening this election cycle:
    Democrats. Master’s at snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory!
    If the DNC had acted as a fair agent in the Dem primary, we wouldn’t be here today. WHOEVER had won the primary honestly would be enjoying a 20 points lead. Unfortunately, HD and company turned a blind eye to the systemic caucus fraud employed by the Obama campaign, as well as the insane devotion of left leaning MSM about the Precious.

    THEY HAVE EARNED the coming defeat. Myself, I cannot justify installing a known Chicago thug in the WH. A nominee CROWNED no matter the cost to the Democratic process and it’s voters.

    And I would urge all democratic voters to ask yourself 2 questions.

    1) If Howard Dean and company was willing to wage an all out assault on the Dem. Charter (even after the Democratic voters had rejected Obama by over 600,000 votes since 3/1) to disenfranchise Dem voters from selecting their nominee, DO YOU THINK you will EVER be allowed a choice again in a Democratic primary?

    2) If Obama, a man with a history of no accomplishment other than what was served to him by his leadership, surrounded by some very unsavory characters and a very checkered past, still unvetted by the media and clearly lacking any core principles as he continues his week to week flip flops, gains the WH with a Dem majority… can you truly delude yourself long enough to believe he will implement any change that serves Americans over his hidden masters who are clearly trying to force Americans to accept a clearly unqualified candidate?

    We went through this before. If you are a Dem, you probably don’t know the details. But the Republicans do. A dark horse candidate, likeable enough, unvetted by the media and with a friendly press.

    His name was George Bush. And those same people….want Obama this cycle. The only question remaining is whether you are going to let them have their way with you again.

  187. In short, the AMA advocates a clear role for government in financing and regulating health insurance coverage, with health plans and health care services being provided through private markets, as they are currently. The AMA proposal gives patients more control over our nation’s health care dollars, while increasing affordability and choice. It reflects important social values and traditions, such as assistance based on need, freedom of choice, market innovation and fairness.

    from the AMA web site …

  188. yeah, Obama = George Bush 3

  189. and one other thing …. about PENIS YEARS

    …any time you are talking to a man about a penis you usually have their full and undivided attention………;)

  190. God this was just what I needed to see in print. Thank you again, RD. The biggest problem in this country regarding sexism?? The “buying into it” of WAY TOO MANY WOMEN! My pet peeve extraordinaire. We as women have got to stop letting the f-ing media control our lives. The media tells us to defer to men because they want to sell us the very things in order to achieve this–makes money for them. Makes chaos for us. “Penis Years”–that’s priceless!!

  191. hmm….grow up, swanspirit. If we male hillary clinton supporters say some terminologies are out of bounds , you don’t have to be defensive about this. lets not quibble over this.

  192. Penis years–too funny. Holding office without a penis is sort of like “driving while black”. The possibilities are endless–What’s the difference in experience between a community organizer in Chicago and an Alaska mayor–penis. Penis could be the new lipstick.

    Of course, how did you feel when the big echo in the blogosphere was about vaginas–that was pretty disgusting. Or even Roe V. Wade. Gag me. People think this is a topic for polite conversation?–NOT. Some guy in Denver with a tape recorder tried to engage me on this subject. I was furious. How tacky. I would like to see an end to underpants politics. But the penis meme sure does have some catching up to do.

  193. in email from my mother today:

    Quote for the day:
    ‘Whatever you give a woman, she’s going to multiply. If you give her
    sperm, she’ll give you a baby.
    If you give her a house, she’ll give you a home. If you give her
    groceries, she’ll give you a meal.
    If you give her a smile, she’ll give you her heart. She multiplies and
    enlarges what is given to her.
    So – if you give her any crap, you will receive a ton of sh * t.’

    Love and appreciate all the women in your life.

  194. I come to the confluence because of the sense of community I find here, centering around the nefarious and undemocratic tactics of the DNC. I also come to the confluence to find intelligent talk from women, primarily, and men who help me understand the gender struggle in our culture. And I come here to discover others who have an inherent and intuitive distrust of BO, just like me. I have found community and I have learned much. Riverdaughter, katiebird, madamab, gary, mawm and so many others shine.

    This particular set of comments on a really fine main blog, metaphorically and literally grounded in male and female anatomy, leaves me cold. I like to snark and schlep out cute phrases too. But right now I’m feeling just a little lost again. What is the focus? If it’s supposed to be “just” for fun I can read the NYT Op Eds instead. I do enjoy the fun on this blog!

    When SWPAnnA is crushed because of a call for moderation in language I am troubled. I don’t underestimate the power of mockery, but I respect the grand tradition of irony even more. I agree that so many of those who post here are extremely intelligent and experienced with political thinking. Even more reason to find well crafted comments similar to RD’s main essay.

    Forgive me for reacting like a prude (I’m really not) and for being human. As a 68 year old male who has agonized over my need to reject BO and found myself rebuffed by my progressive friends and family I’m increasingly depressed by the thought of BO in office and equally troubled by 4 more years of the Republicans. I think I get John McCain. He is no Hillary Clinton by far, but he scares me so much less than BO.

    To just single out one blogger, I admire Dances with Pumas so much — so engaged in this whole process, living so much outside of her own struggles. I am inspired by her to try to do the same. And there are so many others.

    Here in KS it’s frustrating that my vote for President carries so little weight. Katiebird, I also feel some sort of guilt about this. Maybe no one will read this, here at the end of the blog, but it feels right for me to put these thoughts out there. Mea Culpa.

  195. Re: the AMA, you do know that the majority of doctors are NOT members of the AMA, don’t you? Less than 19% of practicing doctors are AMA members. The AMA is a LOBBY, backed by the money boys, and most hard-working docs cannot stand them.

    Also, almost 60% of doctors favor a Universal Health Care plan, as of 2007.

    Please do not blame the medical profession for being in bed with the insurance companies and helping them resist UHC. It is simply not true.

  196. Riverdaughter, believe me, it really IS about pissing off Sally Quinn.

    Salon had an article a few years ago about the “feud,” especially on Quinn’s part. The media are extremely corrupt in the Beltway, and one does not piss off Sally Quinn.

  197. I had a lengthy post with a link to the Salon article here about Sally Quinn and Hillary Clinton.

  198. Swanspirit said: ““Penis Years” is not an attack on males as individuals … it is an attempt to portray an unfair concept and a practice ..and to change the concept and practice .by changing the language in a new and humorous way….”

    Exactly. I’m glad so many get it and hope it spreads. (And thanks RD for drawing attention to it!

    I’m a MALE Hillary supporter and coined the term (strangely enough a minor line I had in a blog post of mine a couple weeks ago – that has struck me as more and more apt over the past couple of weeks) exactly with that in mind and not as an attack on males as individuals.

    It pointedly illustrates the irrationality of judging by two separate standards according to whether someone is a male or female.

    It has nothing to do about whether the person judging is male OR female since representatives of both sexes have shown a tendency to do it in this election year. It is about judging someone by sexist standards.

    The act of valuing a female’s achievement differently from a female’s primarily because of their sex is wrong PERIOD – and that is the point I wanted to illustrate by taking the concept to a ridiculous level to debunk it as an argument.

  199. lauren: ah, yet more gun-to-the-uterus politics. Not going to work this time.

    Maybe you should treat our votes like they were golden? Because they are.

  200. If New Jersey should come into play and we really want to reform the DNC and the Democratic party, we must vote McCain/Palin. The McCain campaign knows what it is doing . ” Country First” this is a inclusive remark, as it tells us that we should not be thinking about party, age gender, race, etc, but our nation. It gives us the excuse (if we need one) to leave the party and vote for a Republican and not feel guilty. I think Obama is dangerous. I can not tell you why and I will never vote for him .

  201. Great blog! Hilarious and oh-so-true.

    If I needed reminding (I don’t), I can look back to the day before yesterday, when I got gratuitious feedback from a colleague that I don’t lead strongly enough. This from a guy who has had 100% turnover in his department and has missed every major milestone during the past year. I’ve turned around a problem employee and met or exceeded all of my milestones, but I get less $$$ and less head count, because I run a “girlish” (i.e. non-technical) department. (Pause while my head explodes).

    I truly don’t see how anyone can support this total cipher as president. We know next to nothing about him and what we know isn’t to his credit – yet he’s the nominee. I’m not sure I can continue to be a member of a party that is this stupid.

  202. RD boy.

    You know what?
    Time for the FEMINIST RESTRUCTURE of all of the BS.
    THIS YEAR. I don’t know how our stature has been effed over but PUMAS can work on this — its bad.

    BAD.

  203. re Algebra – Both my brother and I were semi-talented math slackers. Both of us passed by the hair of our chinny-chin-chins. In our school we were treated no differently – I’m female. We did no homework (well I did for a while longer than Bro did) , but did well on tests because we were lazy but relied on our smarts to grasp the concepts and apply them on the test. We were a great disappointment to our teachers.

    Throughout high school this strategy worked – so your daughter would probably do just fine at the next level. In college, though, it bit us on the ass. We were both good at math, but not quite good enough without the habit of work.

    This knock-back might not be the end of the world.

  204. Hellooooo!!!!?? anyone seen my brain?

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