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Conflucians Say on NOW!

391 Responses

  1. Hey – come and listen!

  2. I’m on!

    SM — that’s you, isn’t it?

  3. Yeah – MadamaB is on now

  4. Hi everyone!

  5. Per our earlier discussion of McCain ads, I find The One – Road to Denver absolutely brilliant. The Charlton Heston & Yul Brynner clips had me just yelling.

  6. Charles, I read your post on history, and I loved it. Thanks. That is the source of many of our problems now – these kids (to me) neither know nor care about even history as recent as a few decades ago.

  7. Does anyone know anything about Pawlenty?

    No clue.

  8. katiebird:

    Lambert responded to my first post:

    Yawn. Do the work, as I asked, send me a link, and you’ll get your account back. That’s what I mean by “seriously.”

  9. I know Pawlenty is already playing attack dog:

    On ABC, Pawlenty said, “This Roman-like facade, a facade with Roman columns, is a perfect metaphor or icon for the point that it’s an interesting production, but behind it there’s not much there.”

    He added, “My goodness, it’s amazing that we’re three days into the Democratic convention and 60 or so days from the actual election and they’re still trying to plead with the American people and convince us that Barack Obama is ready to be president. The fact of the matter, he is not.”

  10. “Parade of the PUMA Pantsuits” on Conflucians Say. Wow, that would be fun.

  11. REALLY??? is it PAWLENTY???? OH, I hope it’s true… Please,please,please. I was dreading Romney.
    I would not vote at all if that ewww was on the ticket.

  12. WMCB: I read some stuff, but cannot remember where, or what it said. He’s young, pretty sure he’s pro-life, wife works with military familes. I would have loved a woman VP, I think women would play an important role in his administration.

    Pawlenty is not my top choice, but I couldn’t go with Huck or Lieberman, this is okay with me, as far as I can tell.

  13. Pawlenty won’t give me pause, if it’s him. I would have BIG issues with Huck. May not be able to stomach that one.

  14. I assumed that McCain was too smart to go with Lieberman, since he has too much baggage of failed run, former Dem, not a Repub

    Didn’t think he much liked Huck, I was just hoping Mike Duncan wouldn’t withhold money to get a more conservative choice.

  15. OMG – I’m from Minnesota – Pawlenty is an a**hole from the word go – family was Democratic – he is a convert – I would hope for him to go with McCain except that the Lt. Governor is worse then he could think of being – she’s a woman – yippee – also Pawlenty appointed her Commissioner of the Transportation Department and we all know what happened a year ago on August 1 – 35W bridge went down – she was never confirmed by the Senate and the legislature booted her out this year – they also got some republicans and overrode Pawlenty’s veto to raise the gas tax (hadn’t been raised for almost 40 years), etc. He’s a real republican alright – but if I have to I can hold my nose and maybe vote republican in November – whatever it turns out to be it will be a protest vote against precious and his chariot riding posse.

  16. Pat J is on with RD, madamab, and SM!

    You all have such great voices.

  17. Well, Pawlenty is talking like he wants to backtrack from the rich old guys clob of the GOP:

    “I’m the son of a truck driver and a housewife from a meatpacking town,” he introduced himself, “who wants to provide a better quality of life for ordinary folks without growing government.” His audience stirred: This was clearly a different sales pitch than they were used to. “We must be the party of Sam’s Club Republicans, not just country club Republicans,” he continued.

    I ask him later what lessons he imbibed from Reagan. “He was proudly conservative,” he replies, “but we sometimes forget he got things done as governor and president that represented compromises. If today you went to someone and outlined Reagan’s record without using his name some conservatives would want to throw him out of the party.

    Some other good stuff in there. He is for cap-and-trade, and ethanol mandates, and took heat for it. So maybe the guy is not a COMPLETE tool.


  18. For some reason I can’t hear the radio show.

  19. Katiebird’s on, too. This is so funny to listen to.

  20. I just can’t stomach Romney or Huckabee. Aside from those two cretins, I’m pretty open. If it’s one of those antediluvian knuckle draggers, I’m going to have to forget about voting at all.

  21. DV: Did you click on the icon above and did the page load? I’m hearing it OK.

  22. jules: yes, i clicked on the icon above. it takes me to the page but that’s all. chat works but not the radio show.

  23. I posted downthread. Does anyone know why Olberman came on the Sci-Fi channel briefly talking about the ONE’s event tonight. It was damn freaky. Does MSMBC own the Sci-Fi channel. Must be having problems at the Football Field.

  24. DV: Last night they were having problems with No You Won’t. It went off for the last 30 min. or so. Did the site pick up your time zone? After that happened, the sound came on right away for me.

  25. I’d like to see Olympia Snowe as VP…

  26. OT: Has anyone see Donna Brazile recently? Did she go into hiding after the PUMAs sent letters to the DNC asking them to strip her of her delegate status? I hope I never see that woman’s face again but I’m sure she’ll be around soon enough dissing Clinton and her supporters again.

  27. jules: It’s alright. I’ll just listen to the entire show later. Thanks.

  28. Is anyone watching the Festival of Emperor Obama at the Barackopolis to give us reports?


    “I shall wait for the unanimous decison of the Senate, Claudius Nancy.”

  30. Q. Does anyone know if Brad or other documentary film makers were getting video of what the pledged delegates were going through yesterday at the Convention with the balloting? How were they notified about filling out the paper ballots, intimidation by Obama operatives, meetings by state or “caucasing”? What about the forced roll call votes?

    I think that’s a very important story that needs to get out in its own right, and is the culmination of the story about fraudulent primaries and caucuses. I’m not surprised the MSM ignores the sham, or bogus democratic process followed in the nominating/balloting process, but I expected more to come out of the Blogosphere opponents, or at least true Democrats.

    Appreciate any news on this you can provide.

  31. DisenfranchisedVoter, she was on CNN tonight. Her hair has turned almost all gray. She looked ruff. I turned it on to see if Lou Dobbs might by chance be on to comment on the spectacle that took place yesterday as he is always pissed about disenfranchised voters. I didn’t stick around to hear the lovefest.

  32. Lanny has been another disappointment who has suddenly gotten amnesia about all of his former convictions. Mythical votes will disappear for the Dems in November–reason that Lanny.

  33. Dalton Sherman for POTUS… This young man is amazing. He was a featured speaker at the Convocation for Dallas ISD employees.

  34. WMCB: McCain is paying attention to this campagin, what plays, what people want to hear, how to reach out to different groups. Sure, it’s a little calculated, but that’s politics.

    Obama just wants to be heard. That campaign & his supporters just want everyone to see -poof, magic, all at once – that he is absolutely the best ever and no one else matters. Very childish, like some twit playing air-guitar and day-dreaming that the whole world drops at his feet. Too much video arcade stuff.

  35. Carol, I think Lanny is saying “Hillary is not divisive, so don’t blame her if Obama doesn’t close the deal and loses in November. She gave him a 5 point bump. What more do you want? And people who said that Hillary is divisive should apologize.”

  36. just walked thru while obot partner is watching …and ms. brazile is right up front with the other “pound”its (into the ground)..
    he’s going to heal us ALL ah tell ya iz true

  37. The mainstream media created Obama because they thought he would make a better story…I wish there was a way to get at them. NPR is the only major outlet that depends on donations so they are the only ones that I can think of a way of getting to them…

    If it wasn’t for you guys there would be no outlet for truth…thank you for being here!!!

  38. DF: Donna was on CNN after Hillary’s speech, with the We All Happy in the Big House speech.

  39. all this speechifying is making me feel all unificated and hopey

  40. Biden is plagiarizing Hillary right now at Barackopolis, talking about being there for people who have been knocked down.

  41. So glad Bill isn’t there. He’d be making serious Bitter Bill face.

  42. it didn’t stick… my old hag skin has repelled it.

  43. I agree about Jesse Jackson Jr. for sure!! This guy needs to be taken down a notch.

  44. I applaud Howard Wolfson for finally saying – hell, boys and girls – this is Obama’s campaign to win or lose, and his alone.

    More of that, please! More of that from as many people as possible, even if it’s done in a nice way. Hillary maybe could very nicely say it herself, Wes, c’mon, just a little sliver of truth to the media

  45. JJ Jr -funny how his idiotic statements about the most significant political event in our nation’s history & needing a separate book in the Bible just haven’t made it to the MSM. Some people would find that last section heresy.

  46. parentofed, Rove has it in a file, and will bring it out at the right time.

    BTW, sugar has the bastard’s latest analysis of Odrama up on her blog, and it is DEAD ON.

    They are going to rip him apart on experience.

  47. Jesse Jackson, Jr. has become number one on my Hit Parade of all time idiots. And since there are so many champing at the bit to get on that list, his making it to the top says a lot for him.

  48. Very childish, like some twit playing air-guitar and day-dreaming that the whole world drops at his feet.

    Great analogy parentofed. It’s just never ceases to amaze me that people buy into this. Today, I was at a meeting and this wealthy NY couple (60’s) are designing a huge second home. Something came up and he said, “Well, we’ll see after this election if there’s any real CHANGE.”

    As soon as he said that word, I knew the whole story. Change change change hope hope hope. What the hell does it mean?! Hillary wasn’t about change–she personified change, and as Bill said a couple of days ago, could actually deliver it. Erggghh.

  49. parent: did JJ Jr. really say that about a new section of the Bible?! Lordy, bring out the Moses video.

  50. So where is Hillary and Chelsea in relationship to Queen Oprah whom of which brought this plague upon us?


  51. Lanny just said on Fox that Obama picked Biden, like Bush picked Cheney!

  52. Biden is plagiarizing Hillary right now at Barackopolis, talking about being there for people who have been knocked down.

    Oh God, is nothing original from these people? It’s all MLK Jr., JFK, RFK, Bill, Reagan [insert name here] redux.

  53. Pawlenty is the right choice. I knew he would be the pick when he came and spoke here in Akron last week. Remember the enemy of our enemy is our friend. His wife is a member of an evangelical church in Edina. The pastor of that church is head of the Evangelical churches of America. There’s like 30 million members. Imagine that email list! If this is what needs to be done to stop this cult, so be it.

  54. LMAO! Methinks Lanny may be sneaky.

  55. Ben: It’s one cult vs. another cult

  56. I’ve heard a saying about Minnesota…”Minnesota Nice.” Does that apply to Pawlenty?

  57. here’s like 30 million members. Imagine that email list! If this is what needs to be done to stop this cult, so be it.

    Ben, lol! We’ve really gone down the rabbit hole, watching FOX TV, quoting Buchanan, and joining forces with evangelicals. Hey, in the trenches, the soldier next to you is your best buddy.

    Notice how quiet it is tonight? I guess the trolls got the night off to listen to the BEST SPEECH EVAH!

  58. ben: I hope that is good news. Obama needs to be taken down.

  59. Is anyone watching the DNC? I’ve only watched Hillary’s speech ant that’s all I could handle.

  60. I think I just saw a hologram of The Precious on each of the foreheads of the MSNBC opinionaters. (except Pat and Joe)


  61. SM: I got my roast. Cannot believe the price. Am serving it for Sat dinner and company. Fingers crossed.

  62. Oh Charles, don’t get me started on Spike Lee! He’s another one I can’t even look at anymore.

  63. WMCB, on August 28th, 2008 at 9:38 pm Said:
    LMAO! Methinks Lanny may be sneaky.

    Methinkest so, too. Ha! He’s just saying what I’ve come to believe all along – Barack is the Democrats Dubya.

  64. Ben- you hit the nail on the head!!!!
    This has been a hard day for me. You guys are great!!! Oh, and I heard Pat on conflucians say- she really does sound like Roz!!!

  65. I am so disappointed in seeing Bruce Springstein up there.

  66. 1/2 Voter; Told you!!

  67. Pat – DON’T BE SAD!

    Obama and Biden are their own worst enemies.

    Our work is to have the parties know that we own our votes and they should be cast and reported the way that it was meant to be cast.

    Look all that we’ve accomplished in the past 3 months. It’s ain’t over for us. BE PROUD that you fought the right fight. And we’ll keep fighting until every vote is respected.

  68. fif, on August 28th, 2008 at 9:41 pm Said:
    Oh Charles, don’t get me started on Spike Lee! He’s another one I can’t even look at anymore.


  69. Poor Obama. He keeps trying to put other people into his empty suit, but no one can fill it but himself.

  70. madamab: Great analogy!

  71. I love Gerry, but she, like so many others, did not accurately portray the PUMAs. Reducing our entire movement to the issue of sexism is far too narrow. For me, it’s all about the fundamental democratic principles that were violated re: fair reflection, voter suppression, and fraud. Add to that the sexism, bullying, reverse racism, and Obama’s weak character, arrogance, lack of principle, and hypocrisy for starters. It bugs me that we are always misrepresented. Imagine how Hillary feels after enduring it for decades!

  72. Pat Johnson, on August 28th, 2008 at 9:41 pm Said:
    SM: I got my roast. Cannot believe the price. Am serving it for Sat dinner and company. Fingers crossed.

    Was it too expensive or a good deal?

  73. Pat- It’s been a difficult day for me too! Like you I grab my coffee in the am, skip the TV and hit this site. It lifts my spirits and gets my day off to a good start!!!

  74. Pat – You DO sound like Roz! You have a great voice. 🙂

  75. Pat Johnson, on August 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm Said:
    I am so disappointed in seeing Bruce Springstein up there.

    Bruce it seems, like Bill and Hill, is a life-long, die-hard Democrat (with a capital “D” ). I still remember him stomping and performing for Kerry. It’s like he feels duty-bound to remain loyal to the party.

  76. SM: I just needed my down time. But you guys keep me going. I can’t think of a better, smarter, funnier, loving group than what has been formed from this blog. I am up from the depths, don’t worry. Wish me luck on the pork roast since I am serving it to company on Sat.

  77. Pat – another thing that’ll help is to marinade in seasoning overnight in the fridge. Then the next day, do what you do to it and cook.

  78. Of course they had to have Springsteen! How else to fill all those seats? There’s always the required rock concert before a stadium event for the Little Emperor.

    Bruce would be appalled if he knew the truth about voter fraud and intimidation. It makes me crazy that so few know about all of this! Good people are supporting him and giving him their money and efforts, and they have no clue about who he is and the tactics that he uses to get his way.

  79. madamab: Someone also said it was like Lauren Bacall. Of course if I had only looked like Lauren………

  80. SM: I ususally do that with roasts. Can’t wait to taste it.

  81. Pat – May the guardian angels of cooking be with you!

    BTW – I’m going to watch “Showtime at the O-bollo” for some laughs at 10pm. I want to see the toy Air Force One!

  82. fif, on August 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm Said:
    Of course they had to have Springsteen! How else to fill all those seats? There’s always the required rock concert before a stadium event for the Little Emperor

    spot on

  83. SM: 5 1/2 lbs, $15.77.

  84. Pat – You could do Lauren Bacall. Just 2 packs a day and a fifth at night for about six months. You’ll be good to go. 🙂

    And Cindy Crawford ain’t nothing to sneeze at!

  85. Pat, I feel your pain (as Bill would say). We all do. I remember the day after NC & IN when it looked like Hillary had a real shot of turning it around. The momentum leading up to that was electrifying and a profound shift seemed inevitable. Then, the monkey business in IN made it so close, and she lots by a larger margin than expected in NC (also suspicious). I was crushed the next day. So many of us were, because you could feel that the last chance to convince the SD’s had just slipped away. I just let myself be sad for a few days, and then the force will energize you again. The force for truth and justice (and the intrigue and wit of people like those gathered here).

  86. I am holding on for the sideshow. Should be worth a laugh or two. I can always mute when he opens his mouth.

  87. lots – lost

  88. You guys keep me sane!

    It’s a good thing we all found one another.

    Better days ahead!

  89. OMG, You have to watch this!

    The Chronicles of the Obamamessiah: Volume II: In the Temple

  90. Pat – that is a great price! Actually, the bodega meat markets are the way to go for shopping you meats. The supermarkets charge extra for the light bill, refrigeration & rent space, etc., for the same thing!

  91. fif: It is an amazing group here isn’t it? Men, women, old, young, all colors, religions, walks of life. The truly brilliant along with like minded truth seekers. Breathtaking! And without the Confluence where would we have gone? Then PUMA took off from here. The very marrow we need to keep the blood flowing. Like rd said, from all over, north, south, east, west. Remarkable.

  92. Dick Durbin is an idiot!

  93. Oh Charles. I read the Spike Lee (but I couldn’t listen, I just couldn’t). History will forever hence be known as BB and AB (Before Barack & After Barack). I’m getting that reflux feeling like I’m going to be sick.

    What immediately strikes me is that Spike is the quintessential Obamabot. He is just as narcissistic, self-referential, and obnoxiously arrogant. The entire world is seen through the eyes of Lee Vision. It’s all about Spike, just like the world revolves around Emperor O.

  94. Thanks for the link Charles, this way I don’t have to listen to him….toddling off to read. BRB.

  95. From what I’ve seen, Pawlenty is just another fetus loving, Bible thumping, tax, benefit and service cutting son of Newt. Compassionate (yeah right) Conservative. Good, that makes it easy to reject both tickets.
    Now if it’d been Olympia Snowe, I would have had to think about it.

  96. This mass rally is creeping me out, particularly with the ‘bots chanting.

    Did none of them think of Nuremberg when they planned this, or was it just so important to make him appear the most popular kid at school?

  97. Hey guys,

    Tune in for Tonight’s show. A Special broadcast, and reaction to the DEATH of democracy.

    Reaction: To President Clinton’s speech, and Obama’s speech. Also discussion of the un-democratic “roll-call vote”!!!

    Special Guests: The Honorable Rev. David James Manning, and Co-Founder of The Denver Group Heidi Li Feldman.

    Join me[Matt] Tonight at 11PM ET/ call-in 347-202-0443


  98. Wow! Wish his mom was still around to give him another lecture on the bullying. Didn’t seem to sink in.

  99. Apparently his mother taught him that sexism was equally repulsive.

  100. say, where is BO’s grandma tonight? You’d think she’d be there to see her loving grandson be crowned “Cesear”.

  101. Some family members are hosting a “gathering” for this event. I had to pass. They know why, but still can’t understand that I (a black male) wouldn’t want to actually witness this “historic moment in time”. No thanks.

    What I’ve gleaned so far is most cringe inducing.

  102. David Gregory says this convention has been about Obama trying to “connect with average Americans”, but tonight’s spectacle “really doesn’t enforce that.”

    YA THINK?????????????

  103. McCain, though, is not a member of the Evangelical cult but if those people will help us achieve our goal that is what must be done. Also, I said earlier that The One web ad by McCain is a take off on the “Left Behind” book series that speaks of the coming of the anti christ.

  104. edwardian: It still must be tough for you.

  105. My partner, a republican, who hasn’t read any of this stuff on line said it reminded him of the old German rallies. He was always pretty astute. We will be voting the same for the first time.

  106. It is remarkable Pat, and that’s what you’ve got to hold on to. I was thinking about how much money I donated this year to HIllary, and then thought: It was worth every penny, because what she accomplished is profound and the effects cannot be fully seen at this point in time. The entire PUMA movement emerged almost instantaneously out of the injustice we witnessed on May 31st. Of course, it was cumulative from the entire year, but a force was unleashed. Think about the laws of nature and physics: it’s an energy that is alive and it will continue to grow and move in new directions.

    I know it’s also hard. We are all tired and frustrated, watching this surreal charade go on and on and on. I mean the Temple–c’mon!! I will be glad when tonight is over. I can’t even think about Nov. 4th. It HAS to go the other way, I cannot contemplate the alternative. I have spent 8 years completely ignoring the “president.” (I never considered him my president.) I don’t want to do it for another four. McCain I could live with. Again, I cannot contemplate the alternative.

  107. Thanks for the speech, Charles. I read it. It is actually rather Clintonian in tone and substance/

    Too bad Clinton meant it and for Obama it’s just more rhetoric!

  108. It wouldn’t bother me so much is Bacall & Springsteen were just supporting the Dem nominee, but they were strong Obama supporters way before the end of the primary. Bacall made some nasty remarks about Hillary that were out of line. Springsteen, dead to me. Bacall, dead to me. I don’t care how much I liked them before, these two people are no longer my tribe.

  109. I’m following online. Can’t watch this display carry on in its entirety. Once “Little Boy King” takes center stage, that’ll be my cue to click over and mute. With my finger on the clicker, ready to switch in a sec.

  110. ben: He may implode on his own. This way we may never have to blame ourselves for having to do something we approach with such loathing.

  111. Ladies and Gentlemen this is a cult we are up against. But worse than a right wing cult it is a left wing cult. We must mobilize to stop them from taking over.

  112. Middle America is not going to like this. It is going to creep a lot of them out. We like our presidents humble.

    Even the ones who weren’t (like Reagan, Bush) managed to make the public think they were. This idiot doesn’t even TRY. He basks in it.

  113. edwardian: Me too.

  114. I read some of Obama’s speech. The good parts are all Hillary. The bad parts are pure Axelrod.

    Let’s take a guess which parts will stick with him, shall we? I’ll bet he forgets all that Hillary stuff about a half an hour after he says it.

  115. I think he needs a deus ex machina move with that set and come flying in on a “cloud swing “

  116. Oh, it’s Barack. I’m having an orgasm!

  117. Here I am World. Look at me!

  118. This is the apex of his narcissism. It will be a great night for him.

    Won’t make up for that empty hole inside you though Barack.

  119. It’s like the Academy awards!


    It’s already the best speech ever! Did you see the applause he gave himself! He’s the best.


  120. WigWag: Take a shower!

  121. I have a friend who just called me who said what he’s watching is “scary.” He said they are all crying.

  122. katiebird: lol

  123. He’s now turning it off.

  124. He has to have a longer ovation that BC.

  125. Yick. I put it on mute and changed to a MSM channel just to see the Temple, but they have this video running of The One. Oh, here he comes…I seriously cannot even look at him.

    It is soooo creepy–the huge screens, the gigantic stadium with lightbulbs flashing. I can’t help but think that this is all such a reaction to Bush–people are desperate for hope. Unfortunately, it’s an escapist fantasy. It is not based in reality, and they are projecting it all onto this blank screen named “O.”

  126. parentofed: What you said about Springsteen, I agree. He had a concert here last Sunday and when I called mister to see if we should by tickets he asked, “Do you really think he’d keep his mouth shut about Obama?” That’s all it took.

  127. Pat, after listening to Barack, I always need a shower!

  128. I already rate what has been said so far as an A+!

  129. damn! I’m disappointed he didn’t rise up from below!

  130. Hubby switched it on for a second…it was absolutely painful to see Dick Durbin and hear him claim that Barack Obama’s speech in 2004 “changed American politics forever.”

    He really thinks that’s true?

    What is wrong with these people?

  131. Now he has to live up to the completely unrealistic expectations that have been created. Good luck with that.

    HIllary? Hillary? Has anyone seen Hillary around? Hey–where’ s MY TELEPROMPTER?!

  132. Hillary was such an inspiration to daughters.

  133. Clinton is an inspiration to his daughters and yours.

    Two months ago, she was a nasty bitch,

  134. He is snorting up adulation like a cokehead. I have a Jewish friend who is getting seriously FREAKED by this, Godwin’s Law be damned.

  135. Looks like the Clinton’s fled!

  136. God help us all.

  137. fif: went to Charles’ site to watch Spike Lee, and the back of my head just started to feel funny, like bees buzzing. I wondered if this is how people go crazy, because he made me so friggin angry. “Well, Hillary will have her moment of history….”

    What a friggin condescending jerk! Is just me, or does he look crazy in the eyes? That whole interview was just out of line, and that vapid, celebrity-whoring reporter was pathetic! Yi! Yi! Yi!

  138. She ain’t no lady.

  139. Carol — I said the same thing.

  140. I think he would look better if he had one of those pointy bras Madonna wears.

  141. I need to dig out my old bong from college. How else can I take this?

  142. At least he can claim beautiful children.

  143. Bacall made some nasty remarks about Hillary that were out of line.

    Wow, POE. I’m big on Betty Bacall’s early work. Some great gems. I didn’t know she assailed Hill though. Not feeling that at all, Madame Bacall. If Hillary wanted, she could demand 90 minutes back for “The Mirror Has Two Faces”. Heh.

  144. hard work?!?

  145. Ben – This is the weakest, least electable candidate in the history of the nation.

    It’s all a house of cards that cannot stand the least breath of wind. Imagine what will happen when they hear our PUMA ROOOOOOAAARRRR!

  146. Another blog:

    He came on early.

    Was that premature Baraculation?


  147. It;s a defining moment





    It’s always a defining moment.

  148. I hate this person more than the Shrub.

    That’s saying a whole damn LOT!!!

  149. Thanks for reporting you brave souls. I cannot watch, but enjoy the snark.

  150. After tonight where does he go?? When this all comes crashing down I think there will be a mass kool ade suicide.

  151. destardi – Me too, because he is pretending to be one of us!!! How DARE HE, plus infinite explanation points!

  152. Who wants to make a bet how many times he says, “LET ME BE CLEAR…”

    That’s his favorite entry line–and then he rambles on incoherently for an intolerable amount of time.

  153. oh poop.

    exclamation points!

  154. The Pope announced 5 minutes ago that Barack will be beatified.

    Usually you have to be dead first, and typically they prefer Roman Catholics, but the Pope said that in light of Barack’s extraordinary qualities, they’re going to do it now!

  155. Yeah, don’t bother watching. Really.

  156. Was that premature Baraculation?


  157. Can someone explain how that happens?

  158. I can repeat the platitudes.

  159. Me too fif. Refuse to watch it.

  160. edwardian: will try to find some quotes, but they were nasty, and when the press questioned her [think it was about supporting a woman for POTUS, or something like that], she got really nasty & just told them off. It was very disappointing.

  161. The thingie about his daughters and Hillary… He is trying to pigeonhole her as just a candidate for females.

    What an ass.

  162. Don’t watch. The sun will come up tomorrow and it will be OVER.

  163. I have it streaming on the web.

  164. Sorry, but I find myself unable to watch. Someone’ll have to give the highlights later. Watching him — too much of a facade. And then watching so many people sit there, hanging on his every syllable.

  165. WigWag, that’s because he is always defining himself. This fucker has NO IDEA who he is. That, to me, is the scariest thing about him. Even ratfucker Cheney knows who he is – the devil.

    But you don;t give that kind of power to someone who is that blank inside. It’s worse than bad.

  166. I’m trying to listen to this objectively (tall order to be sure), and to me, he just sounds … off. Can’t get that old preacher cadence working for him. Supposedly catchy phrases falling flat.

  167. Does that background look like bars in a jail cell?

  168. fif: yeah, he thinks we’re stupid, so he always has to clarify. Then, of course, he doesn’t.

  169. LMAO! They are chanting “Eight Is Enough!”

    What’s next? Good Times? Joanie Loves Chachi? What’s Happening?

  170. Looks like he decided to go with the flag lapel pin.

  171. Whiners. The pot calling the kettle?

  172. I got a quote for him “I don’t need the people, I just need the checks.”

    Remember saying that one, Barack?

  173. WMCB: You are on a roll tonight!

  174. eight is enough to fill our lives with love.

  175. Hey guys,

    Tune in for Tonight’s show. A Special broadcast, and reaction to the DEATH of democracy.

    Reaction: To President Clinton’s speech, and Obama’s speech. Also discussion of the un-democratic “roll-call vote”!!!

    Special Guests: The Honorable Rev. David James Manning, and Co-Founder of The Denver Group Heidi Li Feldman.

    Join me[Matt] Tonight at 11PM ET/ call-in 347-202-0443


  176. When I read “eight is enough” in the speech I groaned.

  177. They just showed Gray Davis the recalled Governor of California.

    Barack and Gray Davis, perfect together!

  178. PofE – I have never seen so much voter-blaming in all my life. The Obama/DNC Conglomerate always complains that we just don’t understand The Great Obama.

    Hey, Obama. If you can’t convince us to vote for you, IT’S YOUR FAULT!

  179. I am so disappointed if it’s Pawlenty. I really wanted a woman – so tired of waiting my turn….but it has to be a good woman.

    So tired of voting for men who do not really represent me….

  180. I have to watch for class. His speech is actually pretty decent. He is now copying what Hillary said and it is a meaty speech that deals with the issues instead of hope and change. Probably the first time he’s spent more time on what is important than his own Messiah image.

    I still won’t vote for him because I know who he really is on the inside and I don’t believe anything that comes out of his mouth anymore.

  181. My hunch gina, is that he finally knows deep down inside he is losing this thing and is in way over his head. Not that his handlers will tell him that, but I suspect he’s beginning to figure it out.

  182. It’s time for the Democrats to own their failure!

  183. This is the first time I’ve heard him actually talking about being a Democrat. But he falls back into the same schtick at the end.

  184. We were razzing on the Eight Is Enough theme at Hill is 44 earlier today – not original with me.

  185. Eight is Enough. That’s the Obama team’s idea of a cute slogan.

    Another loser. Um, duh, George Bush isn’t running again. They’ll never freaking realize that McCain isn’t Bush!

  186. I’m surprised he didn’t choose to do a mass rally in Munich like another megalomaniac from a different era. Maybe he’s got it in mind for his inaugural.

  187. I think Hillary wrote this speech for him.

  188. Agree Charles. I don’t agree with him going negative on McCain right off the bat. And he ends very flat.

  189. New Threads — I might delete mine….

  190. as for the evangelicals, I am surrounded by them and mostly they are pretty chastened this year. The Obots this year, high on power and themselves, are the evangelicals of 2000 & 2004.

  191. Oh so now Bill Clinton was a good guy? Hmmmmmm

  192. Dee: I’m not watching it, but just from reading the comments, I thought the same thing! Hillary is an inspiration for all not just women.

    And it really bothers me that he keeps mentioning his daughters in reference to Hillary.

  193. Praising Bill Clinton NOW. Hypocrite!

  194. oh please meileen…he believes his own press. he thinks he’s invincible. wouldn’t you with the adoring crowd?

  195. He seems angry…reaching.

  196. I’m with ya, Sarah.

    Now that Mccain has chosen a man . . . Now that we’ve been told four different ways (2Ps, 2VPs) that we continue to be unworthy to lead this nation, I will vote for neither one of these clowns.


  197. So what is the rest of America thinking of this? I wonder, does it look good or not good?

  198. Hillary should be an inspiration to Michelle.

  199. He’s upset that his grandmother was passed over in her job because she was a woman, but he doesn’t seem to care that Hillary was passed over because she is a woman.

  200. It’s Grandma’s night too – she can remember all the times she got passed over for promotion in order for a barely qualified man to get the job.


  201. OldCoastie, on August 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pm Said:
    I think Hillary wrote this speech for him.

    OldCoastie: I was about to say the exact same thing. I guess his campaign has figured out that in order to win Hillary supporters he has to start sounding like the Clintons and talk about issues affecting the working and middle class.

  202. A shout out to the typical white woman in Hawaii.

  203. Grandma is his hero? you mean the one he spent an hour with while on vacation?

  204. ben, he has to be reading his own internal polls and what they mean. this guy should be flying high right now and he can’t even get a decent bump.

  205. delphyne – LOL!

  206. He is so obviously throwing the women a bone. No mention of teh gays yet.

  207. KB – You used my graphic! Thank you! 🙂

    I think something’s going on with the HTML, though…only half of it’s coming out.

  208. I thought he threw is grandmother under the bus. She’s still around?

  209. WMCB – oh he will. But you won’t like it.

  210. Platitudes coming at you from the left and right!!!!!!

  211. I agree, dee and cbn:

    This guy us a complete sexist. Hillary inspired and inspires people across boundaries.

    He wants to ghettoize her as female.

    He did it at the convention.

    He’s doing it now.

    Take the blinders off, American women.

  212. Grandma got pulled out from under the bus to prop up his feminist creds. Niiiice.

  213. admin: what did I write that was so wrong?

  214. Okay, I have a weak constitution. I was avoiding watching the depraved nightmare. And now you folks are talking about it. I must flee this site and find safe refuge… maybe under the blankets. Strength to all of you in your vigilance. I hope you are rewarded with seeing something wonderfully comical ( i know, I know… I mean in addition to the Temple of Silliness).
    G’ night.

  215. He doesn’t like lobbyists. His VEEPS son is a lobbyist

  216. He is his brother’s keeper? Except his brother in Kibera.

  217. i’m not watching, just reading the reaction here.

  218. Article in the online Advocate today (gay paper) about Obama asking for our help. HA! Comments indicated folks are NOT buying it.

  219. I expect Obama to get a 5-8% bump after this convention. The Clintons helped him out A LOT with their speeches. They ALMOST convinced me to vote for Obama.

    I’m hoping that McCain can steal some of the spotlight with his VP announcement and get at least a 5% bump after the Republican convention.

  220. “I will say anything to get elected and bring you to your feet!”

  221. justsaynotobo, on August 28th, 2008 at 10:31 pm Said:
    I thought he threw is grandmother under the bus. She’s still around?

    No. She was just fixing one of his flat tires. She’s back now.

  222. No, WE are our brother’s keeper. Him, not so much.

  223. In 10 years we will end our dependence on oil from the Middle East,

    And I will be a size 4 again

  224. meileen: Just do a Nancy Reagan: Just say no!

  225. Now HE’s the one hitting the bong! 10 years, no middle east oil. Yeah right.

  226. WigWag: I just spit out my peanuts!

  227. 10 years and no Middle East oil, except that it all goes into one big pot, so how can he say that?

  228. Is it me? I do not believe one word out of his mouth.

  229. Wigwag @ 10:29, from another blog:

    Just called my sister and even her husband, who doesn’t follow politics closely, said this is a very negative speech. I am thinking most average voters will think that as well

  230. Now is the time to lie my ass off to get elected

  231. Sorry admin, I saw my comments show and then disappear and thought I did something wrong. 🙂

  232. He must mean that Hill will be president in ten years, and will take care of matters such as that. Lord knows he can’t do anything but pose.

  233. That was hilarious WigWag! thanks!

    Not that I don’t doubt you will, I’m thinking of myself.

  234. Grandma’s gotten a real workout already and there are still 60 days to go before she can be disposed of permanently.

  235. To Chairman Dean and my great friend Dick Durbin; and to all my fellow citizens of this great nation;

    With profound gratitude and great humility, I accept your nomination for the presidency of the United States.
    Let me express my thanks to the historic slate of candidates who accompanied me on this journey, and especially the one who traveled the farthest – a champion for working Americans and an inspiration to my daughters and to yours — Hillary Rodham Clinton. To President Clinton, who last night made the case for change as only he can make it; to Ted Kennedy, who embodies the spirit of service; and to the next Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden, I thank you. I am grateful to finish this journey with one of the finest statesmen of our time, a man at ease with everyone from world leaders to the conductors on the Amtrak train he still takes home every night.

    To the love of my life, our next First Lady, Michelle Obama, and to Sasha and Malia – I love you so much, and I’m so proud of all of you.

    Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story – of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren’t well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to.

    It is that promise that has always set this country apart – that through hard work and sacrifice, each of us can pursue our individual dreams but still come together as one American family, to ensure that the next generation can pursue their dreams as well.

    That’s why I stand here tonight. Because for two hundred and thirty two years, at each moment when that promise was in jeopardy, ordinary men and women – students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors — found the courage to keep it alive.

    We meet at one of those defining moments – a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more.

    Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less. More of you have lost your homes and even more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can’t afford to drive, credit card bills you can’t afford to pay, and tuition that’s beyond your reach.

    These challenges are not all of government’s making. But the failure to respond is a direct result of a broken politics in Washington and the failed policies of George W. Bush.

    America, we are better than these last eight years. We are a better country than this.

    This country is more decent than one where a woman in Ohio, on the brink of retirement, finds herself one illness away from disaster after a lifetime of hard work.

    This country is more generous than one where a man in Indiana has to pack up the equipment he’s worked on for twenty years and watch it shipped off to China, and then chokes up as he explains how he felt like a failure when he went home to tell his family the news.

    We are more compassionate than a government that lets veterans sleep on our streets and families slide into poverty; that sits on its hands while a major American city drowns before our eyes.

    Tonight, I say to the American people, to Democrats and Republicans and Independents across this great land – enough! This moment – this election – is our chance to keep, in the 21st century, the American promise alive. Because next week, in Minnesota, the same party that brought you two terms of George Bush and Dick Cheney will ask this country for a third. And we are here because we love this country too much to let the next four years look like the last eight. On November 4th, we must stand up and say: “Eight is enough.”

    Now let there be no doubt. The Republican nominee, John McCain, has worn the uniform of our country with bravery and distinction, and for that we owe him our gratitude and respect. And next week, we’ll also hear about those occasions when he’s broken with his party as evidence that he can deliver the change that we need.

    But the record’s clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush ninety percent of the time. Senator McCain likes to talk about judgment, but really, what does it say about your judgment when you think George Bush has been right more than ninety percent of the time? I don’t know about you, but I’m not ready to take a ten percent chance on change.

    The truth is, on issue after issue that would make a difference in your lives – on health care and education and the economy – Senator McCain has been anything but independent. He said that our economy has made “great progress” under this President. He said that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. And when one of his chief advisors – the man who wrote his economic plan – was talking about the anxiety Americans are feeling, he said that we were just suffering from a “mental recession,” and that we’ve become, and I quote, “a nation of whiners.”

    A nation of whiners? Tell that to the proud auto workers at a Michigan plant who, after they found out it was closing, kept showing up every day and working as hard as ever, because they knew there were people who counted on the brakes that they made. Tell that to the military families who shoulder their burdens silently as they watch their loved ones leave for their third or fourth or fifth tour of duty. These are not whiners. They work hard and give back and keep going without complaint. These are the Americans that I know.

    Now, I don’t believe that Senator McCain doesn’t care what’s going on in the lives of Americans. I just think he doesn’t know. Why else would he define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year? How else could he propose hundreds of billions in tax breaks for big corporations and oil companies but not one penny of tax relief to more than one hundred million Americans? How else could he offer a health care plan that would actually tax people’s benefits, or an education plan that would do nothing to help families pay for college, or a plan that would privatize Social Security and gamble your retirement?

    It’s not because John McCain doesn’t care. It’s because John McCain doesn’t get it.

    For over two decades, he’s subscribed to that old, discredited Republican philosophy – give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else. In Washington, they call this the Ownership Society, but what it really means is – you’re on your own. Out of work? Tough luck. No health care? The market will fix it. Born into poverty? Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps – even if you don’t have boots. You’re on your own.

    Well it’s time for them to own their failure. It’s time for us to change America.

    You see, we Democrats have a very different measure of what constitutes progress in this country.

    We measure progress by how many people can find a job that pays the mortgage; whether you can put a little extra money away at the end of each month so you can someday watch your child receive her college diploma. We measure progress in the 23 million new jobs that were created when Bill Clinton was President – when the average American family saw its income go up $7,500 instead of down $2,000 like it has under George Bush.

    We measure the strength of our economy not by the number of billionaires we have or the profits of the Fortune 500, but by whether someone with a good idea can take a risk and start a new business, or whether the waitress who lives on tips can take a day off to look after a sick kid without losing her job – an economy that honors the dignity of work.

    The fundamentals we use to measure economic strength are whether we are living up to that fundamental promise that has made this country great – a promise that is the only reason I am standing here tonight.

    Because in the faces of those young veterans who come back from Iraq and Afghanistan, I see my grandfather, who signed up after Pearl Harbor, marched in Patton’s Army, and was rewarded by a grateful nation with the chance to go to college on the GI Bill.

    In the face of that young student who sleeps just three hours before working the night shift, I think about my mom, who raised my sister and me on her own while she worked and earned her degree; who once turned to food stamps but was still able to send us to the best schools in the country with the help of student loans and scholarships.

    When I listen to another worker tell me that his factory has shut down, I remember all those men and women on the South Side of Chicago who I stood by and fought for two decades ago after the local steel plant closed.

    And when I hear a woman talk about the difficulties of starting her own business, I think about my grandmother, who worked her way up from the secretarial pool to middle-management, despite years of being passed over for promotions because she was a woman. She’s the one who taught me about hard work. She’s the one who put off buying a new car or a new dress for herself so that I could have a better life. She poured everything she had into me. And although she can no longer travel, I know that she’s watching tonight, and that tonight is her night as well.

    I don’t know what kind of lives John McCain thinks that celebrities lead, but this has been mine. These are my heroes. Theirs are the stories that shaped me. And it is on their behalf that I intend to win this election and keep our promise alive as President of the United States.

    What is that promise?

    It’s a promise that says each of us has the freedom to make of our own lives what we will, but that we also have the obligation to treat each other with dignity and respect.

    It’s a promise that says the market should reward drive and innovation and generate growth, but that businesses should live up to their responsibilities to create American jobs, look out for American workers, and play by the rules of the road.

    Ours is a promise that says government cannot solve all our problems, but what it should do is that which we cannot do for ourselves – protect us from harm and provide every child a decent education; keep our water clean and our toys safe; invest in new schools and new roads and new science and technology.

    Our government should work for us, not against us. It should help us, not hurt us. It should ensure opportunity not just for those with the most money and influence, but for every American who’s willing to work.

    That’s the promise of America – the idea that we are responsible for ourselves, but that we also rise or fall as one nation; the fundamental belief that I am my brother’s keeper; I am my sister’s keeper.

    That’s the promise we need to keep. That’s the change we need right now. So let me spell out exactly what that change would mean if I am President.
    Change means a tax code that doesn’t reward the lobbyists who wrote it, but the American workers and small businesses who deserve it.

    Unlike John McCain, I will stop giving tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas, and I will start giving them to companies that create good jobs right here in America.

    I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.

    I will cut taxes – cut taxes – for 95% of all working families. Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.

    And for the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, I will set a clear goal as President: in ten years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

    Washington’s been talking about our oil addiction for the last thirty years, and John McCain has been there for twenty-six of them. In that time, he’s said no to higher fuel-efficiency standards for cars, no to investments in renewable energy, no to renewable fuels. And today, we import triple the amount of oil as the day that Senator McCain took office.

    Now is the time to end this addiction, and to understand that drilling is a stop-gap measure, not a long-term solution. Not even close.

    As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. I’ll help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I’ll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars. And I’ll invest 150 billion dollars over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy – wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and five million new jobs that pay well and can’t ever be outsourced.

    America, now is not the time for small plans.

    Now is the time to finally meet our moral obligation to provide every child a world-class education, because it will take nothing less to compete in the global economy. Michelle and I are only here tonight because we were given a chance at an education. And I will not settle for an America where some kids don’t have that chance. I’ll invest in early childhood education. I’ll recruit an army of new teachers, and pay them higher salaries and give them more support. And in exchange, I’ll ask for higher standards and more accountability. And we will keep our promise to every young American – if you commit to serving your community or your country, we will make sure you can afford a college education.

    Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American. If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don’t, you’ll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves. And as someone who watched my mother argue with insurance companies while she lay in bed dying of cancer, I will make certain those companies stop discriminating against those who are sick and need care the most.

    Now is the time to help families with paid sick days and better family leave, because nobody in America should have to choose between keeping their jobs and caring for a sick child or ailing parent.

    Now is the time to change our bankruptcy laws, so that your pensions are protected ahead of CEO bonuses; and the time to protect Social Security for future generations.

    And now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day’s work, because I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.

    Now, many of these plans will cost money, which is why I’ve laid out how I’ll pay for every dime – by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens that don’t help America grow. But I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less – because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.

    And Democrats, we must also admit that fulfilling America’s promise will require more than just money. It will require a renewed sense of responsibility from each of us to recover what John F. Kennedy called our “intellectual and moral strength.” Yes, government must lead on energy independence, but each of us must do our part to make our homes and businesses more efficient. Yes, we must provide more ladders to success for young men who fall into lives of crime and despair. But we must also admit that programs alone can’t replace parents; that government can’t turn off the television and make a child do her homework; that fathers must take more responsibility for providing the love and guidance their children need.

    Individual responsibility and mutual responsibility – that’s the essence of America’s promise.

    And just as we keep our keep our promise to the next generation here at home, so must we keep America’s promise abroad. If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the temperament, and judgment, to serve as the next Commander-in-Chief, that’s a debate I’m ready to have.

    For while Senator McCain was turning his sights to Iraq just days after 9/11, I stood up and opposed this war, knowing that it would distract us from the real threats we face. When John McCain said we could just “muddle through” in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources and more troops to finish the fight against the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11, and made clear that we must take out Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants if we have them in our sights. John McCain likes to say that he’ll follow bin Laden to the Gates of Hell – but he won’t even go to the cave where he lives.

    And today, as my call for a time frame to remove our troops from Iraq has been echoed by the Iraqi government and even the Bush Administration, even after we learned that Iraq has a $79 billion surplus while we’re wallowing in deficits, John McCain stands alone in his stubborn refusal to end a misguided war.

    That’s not the judgment we need. That won’t keep America safe. We need a President who can face the threats of the future, not keep grasping at the ideas of the past.

    You don’t defeat a terrorist network that operates in eighty countries by occupying Iraq. You don’t protect Israel and deter Iran just by talking tough in Washington. You can’t truly stand up for Georgia when you’ve strained our oldest alliances. If John McCain wants to follow George Bush with more tough talk and bad strategy, that is his choice – but it is not the change we need.

    We are the party of Roosevelt. We are the party of Kennedy. So don’t tell me that Democrats won’t defend this country. Don’t tell me that Democrats won’t keep us safe. The Bush-McCain foreign policy has squandered the legacy that generations of Americans — Democrats and Republicans – have built, and we are here to restore that legacy.

    As Commander-in-Chief, I will never hesitate to defend this nation, but I will only send our troops into harm’s way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home.

    I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. I will rebuild our military to meet future conflicts. But I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression. I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease. And I will restore our moral standing, so that America is once again that last, best hope for all who are called to the cause of freedom, who long for lives of peace, and who yearn for a better future.

    These are the policies I will pursue. And in the weeks ahead, I look forward to debating them with John McCain.

    But what I will not do is suggest that the Senator takes his positions for political purposes. Because one of the things that we have to change in our politics is the idea that people cannot disagree without challenging each other’s character and patriotism.

    The times are too serious, the stakes are too high for this same partisan playbook. So let us agree that patriotism has no party. I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain. The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a Red America or a Blue America – they have served the United States of America.

    So I’ve got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.

    America, our work will not be easy. The challenges we face require tough choices, and Democrats as well as Republicans will need to cast off the worn-out ideas and politics of the past. For part of what has been lost these past eight years can’t just be measured by lost wages or bigger trade deficits. What has also been lost is our sense of common purpose – our sense of higher purpose. And that’s what we have to restore.

    We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country. The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don’t tell me we can’t uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals. I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination. Passions fly on immigration, but I don’t know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers. This too is part of America’s promise – the promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort.

    I know there are those who dismiss such beliefs as happy talk. They claim that our insistence on something larger, something firmer and more honest in our public life is just a Trojan Horse for higher taxes and the abandonment of traditional values. And that’s to be expected. Because if you don’t have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.

    You make a big election about small things.

    And you know what – it’s worked before. Because it feeds into the cynicism we all have about government. When Washington doesn’t work, all its promises seem empty. If your hopes have been dashed again and again, then it’s best to stop hoping, and settle for what you already know.

    I get it. I realize that I am not the likeliest candidate for this office. I don’t fit the typical pedigree, and I haven’t spent my career in the halls of Washington.

    But I stand before you tonight because all across America something is stirring. What the nay-sayers don’t understand is that this election has never been about me. It’s been about you.

    For eighteen long months, you have stood up, one by one, and said enough to the politics of the past. You understand that in this election, the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us – that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn’t come from Washington. Change comes to Washington. Change happens because the American people demand it – because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time.

    America, this is one of those moments.

    I believe that as hard as it will be, the change we need is coming. Because I’ve seen it. Because I’ve lived it. I’ve seen it in Illinois, when we provided health care to more children and moved more families from welfare to work. I’ve seen it in Washington, when we worked across party lines to open up government and hold lobbyists more accountable, to give better care for our veterans and keep nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands.

    And I’ve seen it in this campaign. In the young people who voted for the first time, and in those who got involved again after a very long time. In the Republicans who never thought they’d pick up a Democratic ballot, but did. I’ve seen it in the workers who would rather cut their hours back a day than see their friends lose their jobs, in the soldiers who re-enlist after losing a limb, in the good neighbors who take a stranger in when a hurricane strikes and the floodwaters rise.

    This country of ours has more wealth than any nation, but that’s not what makes us rich. We have the most powerful military on Earth, but that’s not what makes us strong. Our universities and our culture are the envy of the world, but that’s not what keeps the world coming to our shores.

    Instead, it is that American spirit – that American promise – that pushes us forward even when the path is uncertain; that binds us together in spite of our differences; that makes us fix our eye not on what is seen, but what is unseen, that better place around the bend.

    That promise is our greatest inheritance. It’s a promise I make to my daughters when I tuck them in at night, and a promise that you make to yours – a promise that has led immigrants to cross oceans and pioneers to travel west; a promise that led workers to picket lines, and women to reach for the ballot.

    And it is that promise that forty five years ago today, brought Americans from every corner of this land to stand together on a Mall in Washington, before Lincoln’s Memorial, and hear a young preacher from Georgia speak of his dream.

    The men and women who gathered there could’ve heard many things. They could’ve heard words of anger and discord. They could’ve been told to succumb to the fear and frustration of so many dreams deferred.

    But what the people heard instead – people of every creed and color, from every walk of life – is that in America, our destiny is inextricably linked. That together, our dreams can be one.

    “We cannot walk alone,” the preacher cried. “And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back.”

    America, we cannot turn back. Not with so much work to be done. Not with so many children to educate, and so many veterans to care for. Not with an economy to fix and cities to rebuild and farms to save. Not with so many families to protect and so many lives to mend. America, we cannot turn back. We cannot walk alone. At this moment, in this election, we must pledge once more to march into the future. Let us keep that promise – that American promise – and in the words of Scripture hold firmly, without wavering, to the hope that we confess.

    Thank you, God Bless you, and God Bless the United States of America.
    He thanks ‘Dean’ first not America? By Dean he means Donna Brazile, Dean, Pelosi, Axelrod, and the ‘Elite’ in the party.

    The voters…well tough…he’ll count your votes when he needs them!

  236. When they do the crowd shots, lots of people not on their feet cheering wildly.

  237. Folks, this kind of adulation does not bode and has never boded well for this or any other nation’s future.

    Sieg heil.

  238. I want what Nancy Pelosi has goddamn it, I paid for it.

  239. Did they fill the stadium? I was thinking that the placement of his ‘stage’ was due to the fact that the seats behind will go empty…

  240. Pat, I would love some peanuts now, but I am too much of a coward to eat when Barack talks, Something bad could happen.

  241. I just don’t want Hillary to have the same opportunity as your sons.

  242. was there a fake airforce one?

  243. I thought the line item veto was no longer legal…

  244. He will pay for every time. He will go thru the federal budget line by line.

    Can’t he hire someone to do that for him?

  245. Magdalena: Not only that, he belittles Hillary further by referencing her in relation to his daughters. Which is why I commented earlier that he should state Hillary is an inspiration to Michelle. lol.

  246. Rezko is going to float a loan to pay for all these programs.

  247. “I just don’t want Hillary to have the same opportunity as your sons.”


  248. Pat, don’t you worry. I sense you will soon BE Nancy Pelosi, perhaps as early as tomorrow! 🙂

  249. I think he has been reading our blogs…NOW its the time….

    We meant NOW..(WOMEN COUNT TOO)…


    Britney Spears set man did his too….HOLLYWOOD>>>>>NOW>>>>

  250. In July 2008, Lauren Bacall told Larry King that she was a total Barack supporter, that the media picked on him, and that she only watches……Keith Olberman.

    But she had already endorsed Obama before this interview, and imagine feeling this way away crazy Keith in July 2008. If I’m not mistaken, she appeared on Keith’s show by phone interview…..

  251. Are they selling popcorn and beer to the crowd or is that not acceptable at a coronation?

  252. Two minutes of substance, back to platitudes!

  253. John McCain wanted to have scores of debates, Obama gave him 3.

    Obama is a liar

  254. He will go thru the federal budget line by line.

    Sure he will. Notice how he says “I” will do these things. Not “we” (me and the Democratically controlled Congress). As President, he can’t “do” shit. That’s Congress’ job.

  255. Someone please tell me. Am I the only one who thinks the background looks like prison bars?

  256. cbn, I agree, EVERYTHING is about him and his family, isn’t it? But it’s always more fun to infantlize a woman whenever possible. Hence, no Michelle.

    Hillary Clinton: A True Inspiration to Americans across all lines.

    I repeat: A TRUE one.

  257. Hi…

    God, is he still talking?

  258. Fuck, don’t hand him the federal budget the man already said he can’t keep track of papers!

  259. WigWag – kinda looks like prison bars or maybe windows…

  260. WigWag, now that you mention it …..

  261. WigWag: Sort of.

  262. But you sir are no Democrat.

  263. In 10 years we will end our dependence on oil from the Middle East,

    You do realize that is also directly stolen from JFK’s: We will go to the moon within 10 years time.

    Change you can xerox.

  264. he’ll just falsify the federal budget–wheeee!

  265. Damn I sure wish it would start pouring rain right over Invesco right about now.

  266. Tackie O needs to close her damn legs.

  267. You ain’t gonna do sh!t. Never have. Never will.

  268. We are the party of Roosevelt, we are the party of Kennedy….


    OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HERE WE GO HITTING ON BILL AGAIN!!!!!!!!

  269. Wish the teleprompter would break right now, see what he would do.

  270. gotta lotta promises, doesn’t he?

    I wonder just HOW he is going to do all these things? (now we are in the actual Obama part of the speech)

  271. God, is he still talking?

    Oh Sophie: I say this every time he starts talking. During the debates, I would keep saying that: is he STILL TALKING??

    He is so in love with himself.

  272. I, I, I.

    How about we, we, we?

    He’s gonna do it all by himself.

  273. taw46: ROFL

  274. lol WMCB! Love that name!

  275. I am so wonderful!

  276. Rac!sm, it’s the new Patriotism

  277. Has he covered any of his signature topics: public election financing, FISA, NAFTA, off-shore drilling, withdrawal timetable from Iraq, and the like?

  278. Has someone explained to him yet that being black and opening your mouth on an MLK anniversary does not make you MLK, or anything near him?


    Okay I’ve got a loincloth and glasses on. I’m Ghandi.

  279. Message: John McCain, I will not call you a ra*cist, you cannot call me inexperienced.

  280. And I am Cindy Crawford.

  281. “I got news for you John McCain…we all put our country first”!


  282. Ilike the message. I disdain the messenger. Can we please have somebody who’s actually done something for a living?

  283. I own a kilt, so I guess I’m Braveheart

  284. “I know there are those who dismiss such beliefs as happy talk. They claim that our insistence on something larger, something firmer and more honest in our public life is just a Trojan Horse for higher taxes and the abandonment of traditional values. And that’s to be expected. Because if you don’t have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.”

    The only Trojan Horse is Obama. He’s a trojan horse for Republicans!

  285. I once opened my mouth on Christmas. I was surrounded by many religious symbols at the time. I am Christ.

  286. SophieL, on August 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pm Said:
    Rac!sm, it’s the new Patriotism

    And it’s absolutely despicable.

  287. There’s teh gay — we’re going to give them hospital visiting priveleges!!!

  288. My money is on regency writing as good a speech as this and she is only 18 yrs old!

  289. He is saying McCain doesn’t have a record to run on! Lordi….

  290. wuht? “If you don’t have a record to run on, you make your opponent someone to run from”…


  291. fif: And his supporters are so in love with themselves. I think they just like to see and be seen, for people to watch them and think they’re cool. I think his support is like a lake a mile long, and an inch deep, and it will dry up really damn fast during a drought.

    At some point, the majority of these people prancing in the fields will despise this man. Nov, Jan, 2 years, I don’t know when, but that’s my crystal-ball see.

  292. Visitation?! Wow!

  293. Magdalena; I am on the floor here!

  294. Don’t you start in on the cynics now. You are the greatest cause for cynicism this year.

  295. Pat: I am so wonderful!


    It’s not ‘Yes we can’, it’s ‘Yes I Am!’

  296. It’s the “I’m the guy with the funny name” meme again

  297. If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from

    Pot – meet Kettle

  298. That is PUMA you hear stirring!

  299. “Something is stirring all across America”

    That would be disgust!

  300. “this election has never been about me. It’s been about you!”

    I fell on the floor laughing…

  301. Magdalena, too funny!

  302. fuzzy cannot post bubba beaer had a co-worker in his ofc attempt suicide I have to provide some moral support he is having a hard time….I must go good night keep my bubba bear in your prayers….

    Bubba works for Fla dept of Children and Families high stress job he is a case workers….

    abused neglected and special needs children

    say a prayer for my bubba bear tonight

    god/des bless and keep you all


  303. Here’s where he makes the American people do his job…

  304. Sophie: and we PUMA’s were very likely the terrorists of 2004 in Bushspeak. I know I was.

  305. lord gawd – he just hands the line to McCain doesn’t he….. I’ll bet Mac has a new ad about this by morming

  306. John McCain has been in Washington 26 years, Biden has been in Washington for 36 years….is he trying to criticize his VP?

  307. And Joe Bided is going to carry that change in on his shoulders. Yay!

  308. Hi all!!

    Can’t watch the cult fest. In fact, saw on CNN this afternoon – their announcers speaking in front of the temple of doom. It was hard to believe that a normal person could sit there and talk with that backdrop and not laugh hysterically. You know, if I was being defined as an elite celebrity snob the last thing on earth I would do would be this bs.

  309. “Change Happens” — didn’t he steal that slogan, wasn’t it “sh*t Happens”?

  310. All Johnny boy needs to do next week is stand up and name the many aspects of his (real) record. He who laughs last.

  311. hang in there, fuzzy…

  312. I’m so sorry, fuzzy

  313. {{{fuzzybeargville}}}

  314. Or it could be gas.

  315. Oh, shut up already. You don’t know sh!t. You haven’t ever done anything and you are not fit to lead us. I do more in an afternoon than you have done in your life.

  316. I dare anyone here tell me one thing of substance he has said tonight. Come on………….

  317. perhaps the One doesn’t realize there is going to be ANOTHER convention and theyll get the last word in……

  318. Stay strong for him fuzzy.

    Gotta go to work, make some tax money for the MAN.

    Try not to get sick from this fool and his words.

  319. Pat: That’s a suckers dare!

  320. What is he talking about?

    “It’s a promise I make to my daughters when I tuck them into bed”

    He’s not even making any sense.

  321. It;’s over in about 2 minutes

  322. If I hear dreams deferred one more time during this convention… We’re the ones who had our dreams deferred.

  323. my eyes are starting to roll back in my head…

  324. Joe Biden has a rep as a pretty good debater. Anyone know about Pawlenty?

  325. Bad start – blasting McCain – good middle (but when has he EVER said it before – it’s strictly for the convention goers) – weak ending.

  326. It doesn’t matter that his words don’t make any sense. They’re INSPIRING G-damnit!

  327. Nice visual though

  328. Pat:

    lack of substance has not yet been an impediment to Obots or the media

  329. boy, he sure promises to be all things to all people…

    yup. must be a messiah…

  330. Another good visual

  331. A peanut butter and jelly sandwich has more substance than what he just spewed.

  332. creamy or chunky??

  333. What I spew is going to be chunky if I don’t turn this off right now.

  334. gina, he’s almost done..

  335. Re attacking McCain off the bat; good for O because he has to help his chickenshit image [I personally think this is a lost cause]

    bad for Obama because now there’s no pretense about big bad John and goody two shoes Precious

  336. something disturbing about the picture of Biden with BO…

  337. my obot partner is in the other room watching this….and I hear her SNORING!

  338. yup – she’s completely out. so inspired.

  339. indigo, that is too funny

  340. indigo – Ha!

  341. INDIGO: LOL!!! My Unity partner is in the other room too. I couldn’t take it!

  342. Is this the Olympics or what?

  343. I’m not watching, did he plant a big ol full frontal with tongue on poor Jill B?

  344. Were black men allowed to vote before women were?

    They were.

    Was a black man elected to the Supreme Court before women were?

    He was.

    Were black males allowed to enter astronaut training before NASA gave the nod to women like Hillary, who as a girl wanted to be an astronaut?

    They were.

    Wer black athletes allowed to compete in sports that were, for years, still closed to women?

    They were.

    Etc. Etc. Etc.

    Obama, don’t fucking lecture me about dreams deferred.

  345. I’m not joking!

    BTW – haven’t had a good nights sleep in eleven years

  346. I did notice one difference with this speech – looks like he has teleprompters stage right, stage left, and center stage this time. I used to envision a tin wind up doll when I saw his speeches before – head left, head right, head left, head right, head left, head right. I hope McCain nails him in the debates.

  347. I guess this is what America wants. But to me it looks shallow and frivilous

  348. Its not about me…

    Yes, it is just look at how small the name Biden is on the screen and on the signs…its all about O….

  349. WigWag: It’s a show. Everyone in that audience is thinking, “I’m part of history!”

  350. wigwag – this is what the DNC wanted… america is going to be saying NO

  351. WV – hmm. sounds like an online store …

  352. Say it one more time Wolf, because I think there are some who still haven’t realized it.

  353. We are royalty. Gaze upon us.

  354. On CNN they’re digging it!

  355. indigogrrl: you must be tough. My husband despises Obama as much as I do, and I still drive him nuts sometimes with my ranting.

    Okay, okay, okay, calm down, just calm down, he says, like it’s something he learned at a conference for airline attendants to handle the crazies..

  356. wtf did wolfie say?

  357. When does he kick off his tour with the Jonas Bros.? Because that can’t be far behind.

  358. Damn. That’s the theme from “Remember the Titans” Now he thinks he’s Herman Boone?

  359. CNN is trying to say Obama looked tough enough. Ha! Give me a break.

  360. I let her have it tonight — she started in on the SCOTUS thing…
    told her in no uncertain terms to stuff it…would not EVER vote for him

  361. get tired of the psyops here at home…only have you guys to talk to

  362. Magdalena:

    very succint. Could you repost that every day for us here?

  363. FOX “THE SPECTACLE” ….ouch…

    Personally they blew the ending music…it sounded like doom, they should have closed with some happy music, lively, yeah we can do this…I don’t think they got a good sound at the end.

  364. indigogrrl, did you tell her both the left and right want us permanently scared of our own uteruses?

    Fuck them both.

  365. OT – though my young son cant pronounce democrat so he’s been saying “democraps” ….I haven’t corrected him!

  366. I found it very hypocritical. The man does love himself.

  367. The SCOTUS thing is such a bogus argument. Because, we don’t have the correct judgement when we’re feeling blue. Perhaps our pastors and our spouses know better than we do what’s right for us. And perhaps saying something like, “We don’t need their [women’s] votes” while reaching out to evangelicals is comforting to some, but it’s not to me.

  368. Juan…he is 47 years old…

  369. I’m really sorry he didn’t arrive in the fake Air Force One or come up out of the pit on a mechanical riser…

    yes, I am disappointed! I figured that would be good for a lot of laughs…

  370. I am so pleased he wants me to be able to visit my partner in the hospital. Just one problem – I have been able to do it all of my life. How stupid does he think we are?

    No, wait a minute. How stupid is he?

  371. Nancy is on…not good…it should end with the main people. She is stealing the ending…like a bad cheer leader.

  372. yeah – I’ve told her abortion is not an issue I worry about… I KNOW how to get pregnant…. you write a check!

  373. Every channel is gushing over him. What the heck is wrong with these people?

  374. Moral support is a godsend. And love is flying your way, fuzzy, to give company to your moral support.

    I will say a prayer for your bubba bear—what an important (and tough) job he has. God bless.

  375. Except for the woman on Fox right now…she’s telling it!

  376. Say, Pat: do you think they will sacrifice Scarlett to the crowds?

  377. I think they scrapped the fake airforce one at the last minute….it was a bus in disguise

  378. Bruce, quick! They still don;t think I’m a real American like them! Play the song! Play the soooooong!

  379. indigogrrl: you have to wonder just what they did scrap as too OTT due to the scorn today.

  380. please don’t tell me its Born In The USA

  381. I am meeting friends for drinks in a bit. I will lift a pint in honor of Lenni Riefenstahl. She would be so pleased with this nod to Nuremberg.

    Film title – “Triumph of the Shill”.

  382. Sorry, I had to step away. I had to throw up.

    I’m feeling much better now, thank you.

  383. ya know they started another thread without us!!!!

  384. He is moving towards the middle…

    My question is: Was Rev. Wright hiding like when he announced his run? Remember he un-invited him then it turned out he was with him in the basement then they went up and gave the speech and left him down there?

  385. What? Hey guys, wait up!

  386. There is another thread…!

    Lets go…

  387. No – I just got here.

    Please wait for me…

  388. Larry King to have Republicans on at midnight , will be interesting to hear their take on the speech.

    Personally, I cannot see how Democrtas can ever again take the moral high ground after the debacle that was this nominating process.

  389. Anyone else recall McGovern packing stadiums filled with the left-wing youth demo., during the ’72 primaries? Only to have that demographic become disillusioned watching their candidate make his “centrist” shift during the GE?

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