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What’s going on? Day 3- UPDATE 3

Rumors are swirling fast and furiously around here.  I am trying to confirm the following:

  • The delegates voted this morning from their hotel rooms and the vote was so close that Pelosi is trying to do damage control.  We don’t know what the status of the roll call is at this time or whether there will be one.
  • Bill Clinton refuses to stick to the script that was written for him and may not be speaking tonight.

I am trying to confirm these rumors with someone working on the delegate petitions.  But I just called him a second ago and he sounds really, REALLY busy and overwhelmed.  I hope he’ll call me back in a bit.

Hillary gained back 10 delegates!  Terry McAuliffe is telling the delegates that they are to keep fighting.

Superdelegates: We all want to have a Democrat in the White House next year.  There is only one winning Democratic ticket.  That is Hillary on top and Obama as VP.  I don’t know whose arm you have to twist but do whatever you have to do to make it happen.

Update2: Hillary formally released her delegates but told them to vote their consciences for the person who they felt would be the most electable and ready.

Update3: Fox News is confirming that Bill Clinton will NOT be attending Obama’s acceptance speech.

It’s not too late, Superdelegates.  Fix it fast.

210 Responses

  1. Written for him? What is this, 1988?

  2. Oh, please make so…. I just got off the phone with the NJ dems and gave them a (curtious) piece of my mind. I had the feeling I was not the only one to have done so since this morning.

  3. (head spinning)

    Wow. Exciting times! Riverdaughter thank you so much for this update!!

    Jut the thought of Hillary’s pledged delegates sticking with her makes me shiver. If some superdelegates do to? I’ll burst into tears.

    ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

  4. Remember those famous words heard by incredelous Mary-Antoinette and Louis XVI.

    SIR IT IS NOT A REVOLT, IT IS A REVOLUTION.

  5. Fox just interviewed a Hillary delegate online from MI who reported that out of 31 delegates only 8 voted for Hillary even though they were all originally pledged to her. Just an idea of how this is shaking out.

  6. Yes!

  7. Geez, I hate to say it but…I hope Bill can just suck it up, do the thing and get it over. Then he can leave this charade and get the f&ck out of town. If he doesn’t speak, they’ll crucify him.

  8. The NY Times is reporting (10 minutes ago) that Bill Clinton will only be given 10 minutes to speak and that the roll call will be abbreviated so that Obama is already the nominee by the time Bill Clinton speaks.

  9. I mean “Yes!” to the revolution, not to Pat’s comment on the MI delegation/

  10. There will be HELL to pay. If they thought Pumas were going to fade in the background after the Convention, they are just giving us our marching orders and plateform. Anybody who betraded the mission the voters gave them, will be named and exposed.

  11. R I G G E D.

  12. FrenchNail damn straight! PUMAS in Denver please kick ass and take names,wewant their names!

  13. #WigWag, on August 27th, 2008 at 3:47 pm Said:

    The NY Times is reporting (10 minutes ago) that Bill Clinton will only be given 10 minutes to speak and that the roll call will be abbreviated so that Obama is already the nominee by the time Bill Clinton speaks.

    Oh man! What a way to denigrate and insult our last 2-term Dem president.

    Well, no vote for the Dem nominee in Nov. for me. This tears it completely.

  14. Thank you RIVERDAUGHTER!!!

    How can they give PRESIDENT BIG DAWG CLINTON – 10 minutes???

    Are they going to cue music or cut him off on the 11th???

    Haven’t they already done enough DAMAGE?

  15. Pelosi dons her pink suit of pissiness so that she can look more like her idol, Delores Umbridge.

    All of the delegates are locked in their hotel rooms etching “I must not vote for Hillary” on their forearms using the Exacto knives placed in their AT&T totes.

    They must continue carving these words into their own flesh until “the message sinks in.”

  16. Was it just hearsay, or are they actually planning to institue a 5 sec. delay on his speech tonight?

  17. Btw, big THANK YOU to RD for these updates!

  18. I wish there would be a massive walkout.

  19. Arabella – YOU ARE SO RIGHT!

    She is such a Dolores Umbridge “the ministry says…”

    UGH!

    I think Riverdaughter did a comparative piece on Nancy/Dolores once.

  20. It is becoming clear that this convention had only one purpose for Obama: revel in his coronation by crushing the Clintons.

    It is becoming clear that this convention had only one purpose for many delegates: party at the hands of rich lobbyists.

    It is becoming clear that this convention has absolutely no purpose for the voters of our primary. There is no longer any reason for states to pay for this fraud; delegates can key in their votes sitting at home, voting according to the DNC demands

    I think voters in Iraq probably had more honesty in their ballots than we did this primary; ours counted for nothing.

  21. Bill “will be only GIVEN'” 10 minutes. Where are those people been. You do not “give” anything to big B, he takes. Yey, try to stop him. He’ll whip your botts, you foolish children.

  22. She is such a Dolores Umbridge “the ministry says…”

    lol @ SM – Yes, she really is, isn’t she?

  23. Geez, I hate to say it but…I hope Bill can just suck it up, do the thing and get it over. Then he can leave this charade and get the f&ck out of town. If he doesn’t speak, they’ll crucify him.

    They have crucified him already , I say hell no Bill tell to put it where the sun don’t shine .

    NO TO OBAMA

    PUMAS ROCK

  24. Planet B. Hello troll. Being a little fearfull lately?

  25. Alexis Herman is spinning the BS on Fox.

  26. Note to all these BO fanatics: no caucases in the GE – BOO!

  27. Planet B, she suspended, she did not concede, Now go take a civics class and get out of here.

  28. I know it has all been discussed early, but I just got home. Immediately logged on here, and what do I see? That The One will now become The Paganator. I really hope Leela’s raindance delivers on Thursday.
    (I’m lighting more sweetgrass and sage)

  29. I’ll drink to a massive walk out. These delegates telling them to kiss their ass as they walk out and turn their backs on the Obamabots. In my whole life I have never witnessed such blatant tactics as this. Sorry, but this is a faction of the Dem electorate who feel they are “owed” this and along with the colllaboration of the DNC, made it happen.

    I owe them nothing and will never knuckle under to assuage any guilt. This is just a case of emotional blackmail that I soon hope to see disappear for the sake of those who had nothing to do with it.

  30. By the way, does anyone know about any polling that came out today? Rasmusse? Gallup? Anything else?

    I just wonder if there has been any bounce so far.

  31. The trolls know this is their great leader’s last hurrah before he goes down hard. Poor dears.

  32. Alexis “licehead” Herman is bullshitting Cavuto on Fox.

    Can’t guarantee all states will vote and the roll call vote won’t be interrupted

  33. I wish Bill would just tell them to go f#&k themselves and leave. Maybe if someone showed some damn backbone the delegates would follow.

    THIS JUST PISSES ME OFF!

  34. That Bitch just said the Pumas are not “a lot of them”.

  35. If there is no roll call, or an abbreviated roll call, start calling the TV networks. Ring those phones off the hooks! Tell them this is not how it is done. OUr voices must be heard one way or the other.

    Delegates – you know who you were pledged to vote for. You MUST live up to your pledge. It is the only HONORABLE thing to do.

  36. I’m just amazed that so many supposedly smart people would actually believe that this would work.

  37. Pat, it will be a pleasure to not vote for him in Nov.

  38. WigWag, McCain went up a point. Obama is getting negative bounce for this convention so far.

  39. Dream on Alexis. The polls are saying it all, and we’ll keep being in your face

  40. I would squeal like a little girl if there was a massive walk-out!!!!

    Personally, I think the site monitors here need battle pay today. Good going, y’all.

  41. sm77 – Brazille and Dean are not worthy of being assigned significant Harry Potter characters.

    They are both thuggish, low class Death Eaters from Book 7. Maybe they’re the Carrows.

  42. Let them spin away. They know what’s REALLY taking place and it ain’t grand.

  43. OMG RD! Please, let this be true. Please!

    The SD’s and pledged delegates know this guy is a LOSER. Are they prepared to go down on Oba-Moi’s sinking ship?

    Bill, if they don’t do a real vote, don’t even speak. Just walk out. F*CK THESE UNDEMOCRATIC @SSH*LES!!!

  44. Obama cannot be on ANY ticket. He is a giant liability.

  45. Can we bribe the city of Chicago to take him back?

  46. You know what I would love? If all of those Michigan delegates that were handed to Obama actually voted “Uncommitted” like they were elected to do. Wouldn’t that be awesome?

  47. A small slice of what the NY Times is reporting.

    “Obama to Be Nominated as Another Clinton Speaks

    By JOHN M. BRODER
    Published: August 27, 2008
    DENVER – Senator Barack Obama will officially become the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party later on Wednesday, but his moment in history remains fraught with drama and uncertainty.

    Mr. Obama’s name will be put in nomination some time after 3 p.m. local time (5 p.m. Eastern time), but only after his primary rival, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, is also nominated. Roughly half of her 1,640 delegates said in a pre-convention poll that they intended to vote for her when her name is put in nomination, but there have been intense private negotiations between the Obama and Clinton camps to cut short the roll call and make Mr. Obama the unanimous nominee.

    The roll call vote, to be presided over by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, takes place between 3:45 p.m. and 4:45 p.m., meaning that before most Americans tune into the proceedings Mr. Obama, the Hawaiian-born son of a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, will be the Democrats’ nominee to become the 44th president of the United States.

    Mrs. Pelosi said this morning that she expected the roll call to go “very smoothly.”

    But the formal nomination of Mr. Obama will not end the drama that has riven the Obama and Clinton camps and provided a consuming story line of this convention. At 7 p.m. local time, former President Bill Clinton is scheduled to address the convention, whose theme today is foreign policy and a tribute to the military, giving the Clintons two nights of prominence at this high-profile event…

    A draft of Mr. Clinton’s speech will be sent to the Obama campaign later this afternoon, a Clinton aide said. Mr. Obama has said in recent days that the former president free to talk about whatever subject he chooses, though he has been granted only 10 minutes of podium time …”

  48. madamab: As much as I would like to see that, and would more than likely be one in his inner circle to do just that, if he walks the complete blame for this huge loss he will suffer in November will be planted squarely on the shoulders of Bill and Hillary. He must stay.

  49. Remember just few days ago when they thought the Convention would be THEIR show. Pretty much rained on their parade.

  50. Reg: “The McCain campaign has just announced that all McCain aides in Denver will be leaving tonight or early tomorrow, they said they “will be following President Clinton’s lead and leave before the acceptance speech at Invesco Field.”

    McCain manages to treat the Big Dawg with more respect that the Democrats do, and gets a zinger in at the same time.

    Besides, it’s good taste to leave before the actual orgy starts.

  51. I don’t know if anyone has seen a video of the Temple but take a gander at this:

  52. edwardian, they are scared shitless. Even Kerry got a 5% bump during the convention, and he WENT IN leading by 15 or 20 to start with. Obama is still dropping.

    They know Obama is toast, once their big Circle Jerk at the Temple of Obama’s Personal Magnificence is over. They know.

  53. Hang in there RD…DON’T GIVE UP!

    Don’t MESS with Bill…Leave our Bubba Alone…Don’t mess with
    Bill…NAH, NAH, NAH, NO DEAL…Its the DNC’s mess now…they can clean up the mess and build him up!

    Someone commented that Hillary should apologize for ‘running’ (you..know, she wasn’t sincere, she didn’t boost him, she didn’t praise him, she didn’t this, she didn’t that for him!) .

    The truth is they are in trouble…

    Come November it will be an up hill battle, since he expects others to do the heavy work.

  54. Maybe he would be just as staisfied with his own Chicago-based-Oprah-spin-off talk show. He could talk about himself, change into different god-costumes. . .

  55. ummm…that should be ‘satisfied’…oops.

  56. re: clinton/obama ticket

    how can one want to have the evil empty-suit, race-baiting obama as veep with hillary? he’s a sociopath for crying out loud.
    would that not be dangerous? what about rezko? soetero? wouldn’t such an evil man ( or certainly his wife ) spend every waking moment undercutting her?
    or at the very least wouldn’t his very presence sully hillary’s reputation?

  57. #
    FrenchNail, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:03 pm Said:

    That Bitch just said the Pumas are not “a lot of them”.

    ******
    Alexis Herman is deluded beyond belief (diluted by Kool-aid more like it)…

    what part of 30% of 18 million people is “not a lot of them?”

  58. WMCB, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:03 pm Said:
    WigWag, McCain went up a point. Obama is getting negative bounce for this convention so far.

    O-BORG TROLL SPIN: “That’s because those people polled don’t KNOW Barack, but once get to KNOW Barack more, they’ll feel a movement within them…”

    Whenever I see/hear Obama, I CALL MY MOVEMENT a bowel.

  59. Joe Biden cries at his speech yesterday and the press says “Joe Biden isn’t afraid to show his emotions.”

    When Hillary showed a little emotion in New Hampshire. tjhe press went ape sh*t.

    Bunch of hypocrites!

  60. Breaking News on CNN

    Hillary to call for acclimation before roll call ends…

  61. Waiting for updates…Thanks Riverdaughter!

  62. Even scarier but notice how his supporters refer to him. More with reverence than with respect. Lord have mercy!

  63. This is going to be chaos.

  64. By the way RD. Very good job as always. God I wish I were with you all on the front line. Once we clean up this party, I want you in.

  65. *ordering my McCain ’08 bumper sticker*

  66. WigWag, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:12 pm Said:
    Breaking News on CNN

    i don’t get this can I have my contributions refunded please…

  67. “sm77, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:10 pm Said:
    WMCB, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:03 pm Said:
    WigWag, McCain went up a point. Obama is getting negative bounce for this convention so far.

    O-BORG TROLL SPIN: “That’s because those people polled don’t KNOW Barack, but once get to KNOW Barack more, they’ll feel a movement within them…”

    Whenever I see/hear Obama, I CALL MY MOVEMENT a bowel.”

    (risa)

  68. If Bill does not speak it is because he does not want to lie to us.

    He knows how we feel with his little X/Y speech.

  69. julies9164,

    I’m waiting on the VP selection…

  70. Remember all, when it comes to Hillary : Only believe it when you see her lips move..

  71. I can’t find anything on CNN about any breaking news of Hillary stopping the vote.

  72. That’s why I’m holding off on the lawn sign, salt.

  73. This whole evening will be like a stolen Barry state caucus, but on steroids . They are showing how they stole the state caucus and on national TV.

  74. CNN announcing that roll call vote starts in 20 minutes.

  75. Jesus effing Christ, if he can’t win the majority at the damn convention, just how the hell do they expect him to win in November. This is just ridiculous. With all the arm twisting and unscrupulous BS, the roll call is close.

    THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING!

  76. Agree with FrenchNail. Believe it when it’s said by her. For the love of God, can this be over please?

    By the way, this is so far from an fair and open convention.

  77. The Greek Temple is a huge mistake for many reasons. Not the least of which is that it will repulse “lunch bucket” Democrats with its associations of elitism. And for a lot of people, the association with paganism will be offensive.

    Left Blogistan is rife with disrespect for religion. Religion is important to people. Common sense alone would tell you not to deliberately …. doh! What am I saying? When has “common sense” been part of Obama’s thinking?

    Walk out.
    Walk out.
    WALK OUT!

  78. CNN announcing that about half way into the roll call Clinton will release her delegates and call for nominaton by acclimation.

  79. I don’t think it’s much of a surprise. I mean, we’re well aware of the “people” Hillary’s been dealing with over the past few months. To allow this to become more contentious will fall on her – that’s how team BO/DNC/MSM have set it up.

  80. CNN has no idea what they are talking about. CNN also said that she was going to release her delegates at breakfast this morning before they voted.

  81. I am so glad I can’t watch this farce. This is nauseating.

  82. You know what I would love? If all of those Michigan delegates that were handed to Obama actually voted “Uncommitted” like they were elected to do. Wouldn’t that be awesome?

    I think they should all vote “Present.”

    Walk on
    You gotta walk on

  83. So what effect would it have on the proceedings if Barry, et al get served before the roll call?

  84. Oh, Arabella I’d love that even more! Hee!

  85. I have been collecting pictures and video of the Greek Temple/Mock White House and the replica of Air Force One at my place…
    http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/greek-or-the-white-house/

  86. CNN/Time Magazine Poll

    McCain ahead in Colorado 47-46
    Obama in Nevada 49-45
    Obama ahead in Pennsylvania 48-43
    New Mexico: Obama ahead by 13

  87. On the positive side, for 4 years I automatically protested Fox shown at gyms, restaurants, etc. I’d ask them to switch it to Weather, Food, anything.

    I think I can live with Fox now, and that makes my life easier. So what if they’re just using us to increase ratings & help McCain; that’s downright honorable compared to what MSNBO/Frat Boys Who Hate Girls, CNN/Martin/Brazile Crazy Lies, NPR/PBS Obama Tanking in Big Words have done to the Clintons and us this year.

  88. If they end this before Obama reaches 2010 or before he takes a large lead then it is going to seem like a shame and will HURT him in the polls.

  89. Howard Dean’s on MSNBC right now, Feds. Go serve him on live tv!!!

  90. The Philadelphia law suit might have been started by a controversial character, but it may very well be THE sand spec in the machine. Make no mistake the press is eyesing this one closely

  91. CNN reporting that Hillary Clinton will personally appear at today’s roll call vote.

  92. Oh GAWD, don’t they GET it???? Their best chance after Hillary’s electrifying speech yesterday was simply to keep their mouths shut and their greedy paws away from the prize. For. ONE. More. Day.

    Very PUMA-ish people were wondering whether to ‘fall in line’ because of Hillary’s call to all of us. And now, Pelosi, Dean, Donna are stupid enough to blunt the strongest weapon they got to get us in line.

    As someone said at Skakesville: It’s fucking pathological.

  93. #
    Destini, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:19 pm Said:

    CNN has no idea what they are talking about. CNN also said that she was going to release her delegates at breakfast this morning before they voted.

    That is correct…they (CNN) said Sunday she would release as early as 8:00am Monday.

  94. If your delegates are not aware of this I suggest a wake up call.
    I emailed Ickes several weeks ago.

  95. BTW, I didn’t recognize Dean at first. He looks like the new spokesperson for Jenny Craig.

  96. HRC released her delegates per Neil Cavuto

  97. I WANT A FLOOR FIGHT!!!

    if not…

    I WANT A WALK OUT!!!

    if not….

    I WANT TO laugh my azz off when O-zero LOSES in November!

  98. Please, everyone, don’t believe the media. How many different stories have they told about what’s going to happen?

    Only the PUMAs on the ground know what’s going on. When it happens, I’ll believe it, but not before.

    My question is: Who elected Nancy Pelosi queen of the Democrats? She needs to take her g*d*mn thumb off the scales and have some respect for the wishes of the voters and the delegates.

  99. julies: Is Keith licking Howie’s boots before he talks, or is he waiting until after the lies?

  100. Fox just anounced Hillary just officialy released her delegates!!! Many responded from the floor yelling NO

  101. So that means if it comes to a second roll call, they can vote for anyone they want, right? Because they’ve already cast their votes. Doesn’t sound to me like she’s going to stop the roll call and call for acclamation.

  102. Denver is going to be chaos tonight. Well, “I told you so” is my response to everything now.

  103. Why are they acting like the vote didn’t already happen? Do they think we are stupid? it is common knowledge that her delegates were not released prior to the vote this morning.

  104. Actually, he’s talking to Tom Brokaw and I had to mute it to take a business call so I didn’t hear what he said.

  105. parentofed, I agree. I recently asked my fav lebanese place to change from MSNBC to something else….and when I told them why, they agreed with alacrity.

    We’ll keep up the good fight.

  106. SO DID SHE or DIDN’T SHE???

  107. But I did not SEE hillary saying it.

  108. 30-year – ????

    The House Dems made her Speaker, not the people.

  109. Cavuto just reported that Hillary has released her delegates to vote for Obama, with the roll call still to come.

  110. Has the convention even come to orderyet?

  111. Hell, they probably told Hillary her delegates would have mysterious accidents if she didn’t release. I’m tellin ya, these Chicago people are thugs.

  112. Dean really thinks republicans are going to cross over to vote for Barry in November!

  113. Destini – some people are stupid enough to believe Obama is a Democrat. Pelosi & Co. must be counting on them.

  114. So that’s it? I have to vote for McCain, I don’t want to vote Republican, I have never voted Republican. Chicago style strong arm thuggery just took our only chance at winning in November? I kept hoping for a miracle.

  115. My take on Fox declaration : not true. If it were, they would be all over it, with replay and all.

  116. Voodoo Idol – Why are you here? Go play in your Voodoo Idol Greek temple.

  117. CNN would have shown it live. CNN says Hillary is not there yet and the hall is only just filling up. There will be nominating speeches and the like.

    The convention has yet to be called to order.

  118. Gee, thanks, you troll, think I will switch to Repub, my 40-year marriage to the Dems is over, I don’t tolerate cheating & abuse.

    chevalier: MSNBCO is the Fox of 2004, hope they’re proud. Alas, it doesn’t seem to have helped their ratings; I know I boycott them like the plague. Even Fox at its worst wasn’t even close to the stench at MSNBO now.

  119. Nobody tells me how to vote. Nobody.

  120. nothing on CNN about HRC releasing delegates

  121. WigWag posted this above:

    Roughly half of her 1,640 delegates said in a pre-convention poll that they intended to vote for her when her name is put in nomination,

    If only half of her pledged delegates are going to vote for her, the outcome is not in doubt.

  122. I just got an email from a non-delegate who’s there. She said the delegates had to vote over breakfast, that the vote was “very close”–no mention of who won-, and that Pelosi stepped in and gave it to Obama.

    Rigged at the start, rigged in the middle, and rigged at the end.

    DNC/Obama: Cowards.

  123. #ThisIsStupid, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:29 pm Said:

    This is so stupid and spiteful. Can’t you do what Hillary has told you to do and get behind Obama?

    But Stupid: we are behind Obie. We’re pushing him right out of the general in Nov.

  124. I own my vote and my mind. You should try it.

  125. MESSAGE TO ALL:

    If Hillary released her delegates – then it’s up to the DELEGATES to decide what’s right.

    You know Hillary’s hostage to the DNC at this point.

    LET THE DELEGATES VOTE. If they have a conscience, they will vote for the best and most qualified candidate. If they do not have a conscience, they will vote for Obama.

  126. To answer an earlier question, Rasmussen’s daily polling update for this morning has McCain UP another point, and he now leads 47-46!!!

    Has there ever been a convention with a “negative” bounce?

  127. They had to vote over breakfast? English Muffin and French Toast are not eligible to become president. When will these shenanigans come to an end?

  128. AP is reporting delegates have been released

  129. Someone on CNN just said roll call will begin at “4:00 local.” So I guess for East Coasters, it will be around 7pm. Any confirmation of this? I have to take my son to soccer practice and I will go nuts if I have to miss the roll call.

  130. 30yrdem – We elected them to make Nancy Pelosi speaker of the house?

    WTF?

  131. jules
    you’ll go nuts if you watch! Spike some coffee and go to soccer

  132. Apparantly she released her delegates earlier. CNN plans to show the video.

  133. CNN says it is about to show video of Hillary releasing her delegates.

  134. Sounds like the UNITY CONvention is blowing up in the DNC’s face. LOL!!!!!!!!

  135. Berkeley Vox, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:32 pm Said:
    To answer an earlier question, Rasmussen’s daily polling update for this morning has McCain UP another point, and he now leads 47-46!!!

    Has there ever been a convention with a “negative” bounce?

    A poem:

    In ObamaReality, there is no gravity.

    In ObamaReality, there is no sanity.

    In ObamaReality, temples are built

    Cuz in reality, it’s to hide their GUILT.

  136. This is not news. Hillary told them to vote their way forever ago.

  137. Sorry about previous post, some dude on Fox just said 3:00 local, 5 pm eastern. They did not have a sound bite of Hillary telling her delegates that they can vote for whom they wish.

  138. EricaLeigh –

    I just got an email from a non-delegate who’s there. She said the delegates had to vote over breakfast, that the vote was “very close”–no mention of who won-, and that Pelosi stepped in and gave it to Obama

    .

    I repeat, who gave Nancy Pelosi the right to “give it to Obama?”

    Why don’t they just ignore her?

    Seriously. WTF????

  139. Caterina — good advice! 😉

  140. We need a count down clock……How long before we see an American flag?

  141. What I am saying madamab….is we got stabbed in the back by the dems….we voted them into office to represent us and our vote…she wins a state and all the SD’s go to Odrama…we elected the wrong people…

    Who is going up against Pelosi in CA?

  142. So the Breakfast Roll call was too close and Pelosi said – I WANT THE PRECIOUZZZ!!!

  143. 30yr: CINDY SHEEHAN is up against PELOSI and PELOSI is going DOooooown!

  144. Cindy Sheehan is going against Pelosi

  145. The vote would not have been close if this is true:

    Roughly half of her 1,640 delegates said in a pre-convention poll that they intended to vote for her when her name is put in nomination,

    Those are “pledged” delegates.

  146. is Pelosi allowed to give it to either of them? Doesn’t it have to go to another vote on the floor?

  147. Michelle Malkin was attacked. Wow, dangerous days in Denver.

  148. Bill Clinton should speak for exactly 1 minute and 15 seconds of his 10 allotted minutes. That would send a clear message that no one should waste too much more time on the incompetent asshole the dems are idiotic enough to nominate. At this point, O has jeopardized the his country, his party, and the jobs of all the down-ticket dems.

  149. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?

    This is just sooooooooooooo wrong.

  150. I’m so glad we have the internet. The DNC has just destroyed itself, and everyone will know about it.

    Hillary is not going to go away. Her people will prevail, no matter how long the fight.

    I’m singing “Good News from New York.”

    Rise, Hillary!

  151. I thought Bill Clinton was given a green light on his presentation? Written for him? If that’s true, he should leave Denver now. I thought the suggestion that they were planning a 5 second delay on President Clinton’s speech was bad enough. But this. If true I can’t see Bill Clinton “falling in line.” Unless, of course, the Obama people promise to clear HRC’s debt.

    Amazing!

  152. CNN says, contrary to what was said earlier, Hillary or a surrogate is expected to stop the vote before it finishes.

  153. Troll Alert: Voodoo Idol, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:25 pm needs their mouthed washed out with soap.

  154. Maybe when they said the vote was very close, they meant an ObamaCo thug was very close, ready to help you.

  155. Dean really thinks republicans are going to cross over to vote for Barry in November!

    Democrats are in denial. Pelosi told people not worry that Obama is being underpolled. These people just don’t want to see the truth. He is failing but no one wants to admit it.

  156. Reports on the anti-war protesters who attacked Malkin.

    Michelle Malkin, conservative author and blogger, was attacked by leftist protesters at the “Recreate 68″ protests last night held outside …

  157. I guess Pelosi’s approval rating has been underpolled as well. Right, Nancy, that’s right.

  158. Via Ben Smith. This is all that happened.

    ~~~~

    Speaking to her delegation at the Sheraton, Hillary released her delegates, Amie Parnes reports.

    “Many of you feel a responsibility to the voters in your state. Others want the choice to vote what’s in your heart. I am not telling you what to do,” she said.

    The announcement was greeted with boos and moans.

  159. Olbermann blog trying to get Joe Scaroborough fired!

    olbermannwatch.com/archives/2008/08/olbermann_begin_1.php

  160. LOL @ POE. That’s sums it up, perfectly.

  161. This is Dean’s mid-life crisis red sportscar.

  162. Destini: “CNN says…” whatever Donna, Roland, & the DNC tell them to say.

  163. PAT: I just read that some forensics came back and confirmed that a body was in the trunk of Casey’s car.

  164. Hey Nancy, has Blondie had her puppies yet? Do you have enough chocolate bonbons for the kiddies?

  165. edwardian: Move over, Douglas Feith….. the Recreate68 people, along with the DNC, have got to be the dumbest f**king people on the planet.

    And although I’m no Malkin fan, this is just awful and I hope she’s okay.

  166. Geez, its so obvious that Obama’s divisive campaign has caused more damage that any other candidate in the history of this country.

  167. parentofed – Yes.

  168. Oh great…CNN has Donna B. on to explain the process. She should be able to explain how they stole those nomination quite well.

  169. NH, on August 27th, 2008 at 4:47 pm….and you just know they will blame it all on Hillary.

  170. Is she gonna tell them how her momma does it or the way it should be done?

  171. Did BO release his delegates?

  172. I thought Bill Clinton was given a green light on his presentation? Written for him? If that’s true, he should leave Denver now. I thought the suggestion that they were planning a 5 second delay on President Clinton’s speech was bad enough. But this. If true I can’t see Bill Clinton “falling in line.” Unless, of course, the Obama people promise to clear HRC’s debt.

    Amazing! And Pelosi had to step again to reallocate delegates?

    This party and campaign is DOA. Have they lost their minds? The senior leadership needs to go!!

  173. Bill Clinton is your party. Jim Leach & Bob Casey is your party on crack.

  174. ABC Reporter Arrested in Denver Taking Pictures of Senators, Big Donors
    Asa Eslocker Was Investigating the Role of Lobbyists and Top Donors at the Convention
    By BRIAN ROSS
    Aug. 27, 200

    DENVER–Police in Denver arrested an ABC News producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of Democratic Senators and VIP donors leaving a private meeting at the Brown Palace Hotel.

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story?id=5668622&page=1

  175. Destini – That’s news from a couple of days ago. Is that what they’re saying is new? Politico broke that “story” already. She did NOT instruct them to vote for Obama.

    Yawn.

  176. I don’t think CNN knows anything new. I do think that something happened behind the scenes today that threw a wrench into things.

  177. Regency – Hee!

    Did they turn into baby chicks like the kids in that Moveon commercial said?

  178. Scott Paul, in The Washington Note, has a brilliant read on Hillary’s video and speech.

  179. Madamab: Yes, little chick with Hillary for America–Please! t-shirts on.

  180. HARP – They’re arresting journalists now?!

    Told you all Obama for America is Stalinist.

  181. PELOSI HAS GOT TO GO!!!! She is a disgrace.

  182. Donna says there is indeed unity, that those 6 million dead people they replacing us old racist dumb hick Latino gay blue collar white hag dead-enders with are very co-operative.

  183. Awwww, that’s cute, Regency! 🙂

  184. Blame Hillary? I don’t give a flying phooey what they do.

    Hillary has acted honorably from the start. She is a warrior. She has fought well and bravely. She has won the loyalty and respect of Americans, even people who used to dislike her. The refining fire of battle has made her stronger.

    But this is not about Hillary. This is about the creation of a movement that will save America. We want leaders who honor the dignity and importance of the ordinary citizen. I am grateful that fate so arranged it that we would have an extraordinary politician to stand up against a conspiracy of big business, craven polical parties, and intellectual extremists.

    We have not lost anything except our learned helplessness.

    Long live PUMA!

  185. Nominations for both are listed on the the agenda.

  186. One of the most delightful moments during political conventions is the ROLL CALL — each state gets a few seconds to say something about “The Great State of . . . . . ” It was always fun to try to guess what the spokes person would choose to highlight in those few seconds.

    Keep it up Obama — continue to make a fool of yourself and the Obamacratic party. Your trolls are also doing their part — stupid people trying to prop up an Malignant Narcissistic jerk.

  187. New post for the Role Call

  188. I thought HoDean was a doctor. Too bad he hasn’t discovered that CDS is Curable.

    If he had, maybe we would have a real convention, a real Democratic Party, and a real candidate. Instead, he’s spent the last 4 years listening & believing Republican talking points.

  189. Okay, can someone please explain ’cause I’m majorly confused… if the voting took place this morning, and it was the only balloting that counts, what difference does it make if Hillary releases her delegates at this point? Why are the networks making such a big deal out of this? And from my understanding, if she releases her delegates, his are automatically released.

  190. Delegates telling CNN they will feel angry and cheated if the vote is stopped even by Hillary herself.

  191. Has anyone on CNN ever been to a convention before? Wolfie is saying it’s historic breaking news that they are holding an obviously rigged “roll call vote” in which at a predetermined time, Hillary will call for Obama to be nominated by acclimation.

    Do they really expect anyone over the age of 30 to believe that this is how it is traditionally done? Give me a break. This isn’t going to be any kind of catharsis. This is like rubbing salt into an open wound with a brillo pad.

  192. julies: It’s easy to see why you’re confused; maybe I can clearly explain the rules to you.

    The DNC Rules: Whatever Obama, Howard, Nancy, and Donna need to do to “win.”

    There, does that help?

    I may sound facetious, but I’m serious; the DNC rules were thrown out the window last year.

  193. Oh! Now the breaking news is that Emperor Obama’s plane has landed and he’s about to get off. Everyon bow down and worship his greatness.

  194. On Fox, McCaskill says that they’re not worried about Dems because they will vote for the Dem candidate (seig heil! start the goose stepping!). She says Independents will determine the election. Well, some of those Independents used to be Democrats..

  195. New thread for the “Roll Call”

  196. BB: Don’t forget fan the palm leaves!

  197. Ooh I just thought of Bill’s line, in keeping with the ancient temple setting, “I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.”

  198. Arabella, excellent Harry Potter metaphor, and to extend it, we PUMAs feel the same frustration that Harry and friends felt as the Ministry took over and tied their hands, leaving them powerless to defend against the dark arts.
    Hey wait, wasn’t Voldemort ashamed of his non-wizard family, and didn’t he start a lifelong quest to find his wizard identity? I could get carried away with this.

  199. I just turned the TV off. It was too sad to witness. It is one big joke. Democracy died today in Denver, Colorada at the Democratic convention. The hall was not full and not too much cheering. I will cast my vote for John MCain in the General election.

  200. All my belief in democracy has been washed away by this process. This appears to be the THIRD stolen election in a row. We let the Republicans steal it twice, and now since turnaround is fair play, the DNC is trying to do the same…too bad, because it will backfire on them. Being an idealist is so difficult. Oh well, here comes another four years of hell.

  201. Bill Please Speak! You Are Brilliant…You Can Talk and play nicy nice all while throwing your subliminal messages in regarding the so called candidate!! Please do It Bill…Be Yourself and Please Raw and Uncensored!!!

    Hillary 2012!

  202. Courage, everybody! Courage!

  203. In the future historians will look back to today and declare that this was indeed the day that democracy died – that is if the royal family lets them speak at all.

    I didn’t register to vote until I was 34 – and then it was at the very last minute of the very last day in 1996. I never cared about politics or what happened in this country since it didn’t seem to affect me on a personal level. However, I chose to finally become involved in order to vote for Bill Clinton’s second term. Since then I’ve had to watch as every election was stolen from the citizens and wondered if it was time to emigrate to Canada.

    I won’t do that, but I will never vote for a Democrat again. Here in the Chicago suburbs we’ve also had to endure the Democrats shoving an unqualified candidate at us, who refused to move into our district, so they lost the 6th district in an open election. If King Barry is coronated in November, we’ll have this unqualified, unworthy candidate shoved down every Illinois citizen’s throat as his “replacement” in the senate.

    Please send him somewhere, but not to DC and certainly not back to us here in the Chicago area – we don’t want him!

    Go PUMAs! Get everyone together and no matter how much it hurts, vote for John McCain. Staying home, voting for a third, fourth or fifth party candidate or just not voting in that race will not accomplish the goal of Nobama in November!

  204. I don’t know who to diirect my comments to, but nothing has really changed. We know what the outcome would be and our first order of business should be is to defeat Obama and I really do not care who it is, but NADER, is the least of a bad lot. Hillary had no choice, She had to be the good soldier. She know she would lose and if she did not release her delegates and endorse him, she could not come back in 2012 and hope to win. PUMA or the confluene, if not already one, has to become a official organization, alone the lines of NOW or EMILLY’S LIST, but with is sole objective to elect HIlary Cinton in 2012. Don’t depend on contributions, ask us pay, if we can afford, a set amount each month or quarter

  205. Anyone who votes for John McCain in 2008, whose platform stands diametrically opposed to Hillary Clinton’s, spits in her face and dismisses all that she’s worked so hard for over the decades. She did not run for POTUS so that the gains that she helped bring to reality could be reversed by four more years of Republican control, and the potential addition of a Republican appointed Supreme Court justice.

  206. You people are stupid sheeple used by the republican campaign machine,Hannity, Rush and the other idiots pushing for another republican term and another 4 years for a party that has made this country worse off for the past 8 years !

    You are being used and maybe when McCain continues to strip away your rights and elect ultra right wing judges then you will know how bad a choice you made.
    However, after tonight’s speech from Bill and Joe I am confident that this time we will have a democrat in the White House and they will lead this country back to greatness and you fools will not be able to claim that you were a part of this important movement.
    (it seems that the retards running this site are deleting posts that they do not agree with….how sad)

  207. very good post:

    Anyone who votes for John McCain in 2008, whose platform stands diametrically opposed to Hillary Clinton’s, spits in her face and dismisses all that she’s worked so hard for over the decades. She did not run for POTUS so that the gains that she helped bring to reality could be reversed by four more years of Republican control, and the potential addition of a Republican appointed Supreme Court justice.

    The Republican sheeple running this site will delete you post though, but i will keep posting over and over again 🙂

  208. bostonboomer: It seems that YOU are the one who doesn’t know how it’s done at conventions. The idea of candidates releasing their delegates and asking them to vote for the winning candidate as a sign of party unity has become a common practice at both the Republican and Democratic conventions. In fact, it’s now UNcommon for candidates NOT to do so (e.g. Dennis Kucinich).

    I have to hope that you and your cronies represent a very small, deranged portion of the electorate. Yes, vote for Nader–you deserve each other.

  209. The press has destroyed the Clintons and now I feel like the superdelegates are listening.

    The only station that finally was able to display Obama’s qualities and issues was ABC during a debate. One of the few times that Obma was being criticized.

    Obama is very radical, has a pastor full of hatred for America. This was his mentor.

    Obama has ties wth Tony Rezko of Chicago and William Ayers, a terrorist.

    Reverend Wright, Obama’s mentor of twenty years has embarrassed our first lady and white America.

    Obama has an elitist attitude towards most of America.

    He has a cocky attitude from his own dislike for his grudges against American politics.

    This man has his own anger problems. Show me your friends and I will show you who you are:

    Tony Rezko, a criminal from Chicago that Obama has know for years.

    William Ayers, a terrorist that he worked on a board with in Chicago.

    Pastor Wright, a supporter of anti-Semetic, Louis Farrakhan.

    Al Sharpton, fighting for the states of Florida not to seat delegates.

    Michelle Obama not being proud of her country until now.

    This man will never survive against a war hero, John McCain.

    I am saddened that the children and the media is controlling this electiion.

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