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Clinton Cocktail Party- Break up song

Barack Obama tried to dial it back today. The Obamasphere took things a bit too far, methinks. Wasn’t it just last week that he told his supporters to be nice to us? And how did that work out? Honestly, I couldn’t see how Hillary’s words could be so misconstrued. And yet, Obamaphile after Obamaphile swore they heard something in her statement that simply wasn’t there. I blame No Child Left Behind. Our educational standards are definitely slipping. I hope she can do something about that when she takes office in 2009.

But anyway, Obama’s tepid attempt to quell the two minutes hate cames about 24 hours too late after he foolishly told the Clintons that that kind of talk “has no place in this campaign”. He’s right. She can’t get away with words that aren’t separated by sufficient distance. I recommend she switch to obscene gestures. Yeah, just brush that dirt of your shoulder.

BTW: We have an answer to the Argus’ question about why they are trying to get her to drop out. It’s because the nomination is soooo much easier to win if the competition just quits. So, Hillary, hang in there. Don’t just make him work for it, win it.

Welcome to the Clinton Cocktail Party, this is the time of the day when we make new friends but keep the old (all former Girl Scouts, singalong!). It seems that some Obamaphiles have been checking us out for evidence of the mirror image of their derangement but so far, we’ve been deemed tame by comparison. I’d like to congratulate each and every one of you for showing such class and responding with snark instead of anger. Well done!

To the left of the door is Rico, our bartender with flair! He wasn’t named for the island but I’m sure we’ll figure out some variation on a theme when the time comes. His special for tonight is a Heartbreaker’s Special, but you can order anything you like.

Our entertainment for tonight are oldies but goodies. Johnny Mathis has been around ever since my parents bought their first Hi-Fi stereo system. I love his version of Misty. Deniese Williams had a brilliant but too short career before she turned to faith and gospel music. Beautiful soprano, though. The song was suggested by Edwardian and is dedicated to the Democratic party and to Obama himself.

We love new visitors and everyone is welcome but trigger words really kill a party so please leave them with Florence, our lovely check room attendant. The waiters will be circulating with ice-cream, mashed potatoes and gravy and macaroni and cheese. (Well, what are you supposed to eat after a break up but comfort food?) Please drink responsibly and tip your wait staff generously.

145 Responses

  1. Rico, do you have any Basil-Haydens back there? Make it a double, OTR.

  2. Finally!

    I need to relax, after spam-blocking some relatives and friends who emailed me the last installment of Keith Obamaman conniption fits.

    Rico, a Glad Eye, I need something with Pastis.

  3. Ready here, too!

    If this race wasn’t so important, I’d think it was fun…….KO: Proof that the media buys us and sells us back to ourselves, if we let ’em.

  4. I just noticed we are over 622,000 hits. Wow RD, your parties are going to get crowded.

    I’ll take ice cream…I’m out of adult beverages unless Rico delivers.

  5. They faint for Hillary, too, but she doesn’t make a big deal about it:

    “I couldn’t believe she picked me out of a crowd,” said Jeff Justice after a rope-line encounter with Mrs. Clinton after a rally in Charleston, W.Va. Mrs. Clinton probably picked him out because he fainted in front of her. He was back on his feet after she gave him a bottle of water and, more important, she signed a photograph for him. Put him down as a satisfied rope-liner.

  6. Patron, por favor. No salt, no lemon. And a Pacifico beer.

    Bring me another round every ten minutes until I smile or pass out.

  7. riverdaughter, I liked what you said about education standards slipping. Obama supporters can get as ugly, nasty and hateful as they want. But that won’t make Hillary Clinton anything less than the best and most qualified candidate for President. I admire her so much and proud and honored that such a woman is running for President-WOW!!

  8. More from that NYT story: It seems Barack doesn’t like mingling with the common people LIKE US!

    Mr. Obama is at best lukewarm to rope lines, his aides say, but he has learned to soldier through them.

    Plus, his chief primary opponent, Mrs. Clinton, is a rope-lining dynamo, a penchant she may have acquired from her husband, former President Bill Clinton, the all-time rope-lining king. Mr. Clinton’s willingness to shake every last hand — or engage every last heckler — was legendary.

  9. I do believe the best tribute to Hillary Clinton’s candidacy is the wonderful circle of community that has sprung up in recent months.

    Sorry… I get a little sentimental when I drink…

    In this case, breaking up is not hard to do and feels positively liberating. Plus, I get to hang out with my friends at the cocktail parties.

    Oooh, yeah!
    Feels good to be free!

  10. Oh, lord, she’s just a better politician and a more dedicated public servant.

  11. ben, i’m living proof. I had Hillary sign my t-shirt in winston-salem when she spoke with Maya Angelou. She went down the whole line. The secret service guy told us all not to worry, that she always stayed until she got to everyone. Same thing with Bill when I saw him a couple weeks later. People were telling him stories about everything under the sun, but he went to every person in the line and signed my banner. They really do seem to love the campaign trail

  12. Since we are drinking, I’m getting misty and nostalgic and hopeful of the future. I see Hillary and Chelsea and Mrs. Rodham taking the convention stage in Denver to the theme from North and South. Do you all remember this?

  13. What is it about Obama the brings out Democrats inner Republican? I was over at DK today (okay, I’ve gotten hooked reading the demented diaries over there) and they have this preposterous diary about the sharpshooters that line the rooftops when Obama speaks, and what kind of bravery it must take on his part to face the daily danger that it does in order to be our president. And how dare Hillary mock the bravery he exhibits. No mention of the fact that Clinton faces at least as many death threats as he does, also has sharpshooters lining the roof and that we have only lost one candidate to assassination in our nation’s history. Anyway, the whole sanctimonious piece of twaddle read like one of the bizarro world, boilerplate emails that the Mighty Wurlitzer churns out for right wing consumption (what with Republicans having a government specified RDA of sanctimony to retain the proper political outlook). it’s all about the buzz.

    I searched myself and discovered that there have been over 350 comments referencing me since I was booted in early December. Fascinating. Someone there thinks I’m really Lanny Davis.

  14. Pete,

    You’re making no sense. Did you have a few drinks at home before coming here?

  15. Pete is a short Peter

  16. Doesn’t it bother you that CBS said the following:

    “she referenced th assassination of Robert F. Kennedy as a reason she’s staying in the race this year”

    when clearly nothing of the kind was said. She clearly did not say she was staying in the race because of the assassination. She said she can’t understand why people are trying to get her out of the race when Bobby Kennedy was still in the race in June, which we recall because he was assassinated in California in June. Numerous media outlets have made this same very peculiar mistake, leading me to wonder– why? Is it because it makes a better story? It is clearly wrong.

  17. While enjoying your drinks, please watch this video and tell me who has the smartest supporters.

    The Strategy of Desperation

    Did I say it watching this was mandatory? There will be a quiz.

  18. Lori: Doesn’t it seem weird that we ever hung out with those people? The first YK was so much fun. The second made me feel really uncomfortable. Something was just “off”. But if I hadn’t gone to YK07, I wouldn’t have seen what a good candidate Hillary was and how much of a salesman John Edwards was.
    Anyway, did we change or did they?

  19. MABlue; Whoa! She’s good. Everything she says is absolutely true, I’m afraid that Obama is hurting future African-American candidates. Do you know her? She made a great ad.

  20. misfit, I was just watching Fox (local Fox) and they said said the exact same thing. Of course they did not show the actual clip, they’re doing their best to enshrine their twisted spin as fact. They also said sometyhing about how she’s doing damage control, implying that she’s continued to speak on this instead of that one apology to the Kennedy family.

  21. MABlue,

    Thanks for that video. That was great!

  22. Yippee, cocktail hour!!!! I’ll have a sherbert for starters, please, Rico.

    btw, yay @ the music selection – cool beans! Thanks, RD! 🙂

  23. Remember Fitzmas? And that really big issue to the American people, FISA? Telecom immunity? When I stopped reading Kos, I realized that the rest of the public are not the least bit interested in their issues. They are far out of the mainstream. Their issues have little to do with the lives of every day Americans.

    Remember the phrase “Remember the Maine.” I have a new one for the Kossacks: “Remember Lamont.” Because Obama’s candidacy has always looked a lot like that misguided one to me.

  24. MABlue–just watched Patsy’s video–it was brilliant!!

  25. Hi, kids!

    I’m back from the field, feeling very satisfied. We actually did do a great job in Oregon, held BHO to a 100,000 vote win, and seemed to have killed Hope, if you look at the crazy low turn out.

    I really do love everything about this campaign, the people, our candidate, standing for the right things.

    My drink? I have a sudden fondness for bourbon.

  26. I’ve seen her in a video where she says don’t label her a supporter of Senator Clinton’s opponent just because she’s African American. “That’s not the way *I* roll”, she says.

  27. Not to defend kos, but Lamont DID win the primary (not thanks to kos, I’m sure). If CT had a sore loser law like many other states, he probably would have gone on to win that seat.

  28. RD, that video was great. Can we put at the bottom of the cocktail post? What a sane positive message. Bravo. She even used the same “boy who cried wolf” analogy as I did 🙂

  29. Little Sister–I heard the exact same news report on NPR Weekend Edition this morning (Hillary mentions RFK assassination as a reason for staying in the race). I also went to look at a You Tube clip of Hillary’s comments and the first one that came up was very brief and started with the sentence in which she mentions RFK so you really couldn’t tell what she was talking about and didn’t know that she was answering the question of why are people trying to talk you out of the race. It doesn’t totally make sense that every news outlet is doing this to promote Obama. That’s why I am wondering if it is just to hype the story (because otherwise there really isn’t a story). If this is true it is a shocking lack of integrity even for the MSM.

  30. Many thanks, MABlue for that video. Now THAT’S “what it is … (what it is, what it is, what it is)” Okay, now I’m singing Aretha’s “Rock Steady”.

  31. I loved how that very smart woman said we are going to the convention and it’s either Hillary or McCain. She said exactly what I’m thinking.

  32. It’s disgusting. She didn’t mention RFK’s assassination as a reason to stay in the race. She was relating to RFK and long primaries. I think BO is just suddenly defending her to win favor with her supports. It just makes me dislike him all the more.

    Rico, mojito, por favor.

  33. the WORM is starting to turn. it seems that Obama had nothing to do with any of this. “someone” in the campaign unfortunately made a statement, but of course st. obama intercedes and it is all blamed on nasty mr. drudge:

    But someone in the Obama camp did respond to it, in a purely perfunctory manner as any campaign should (I have no qualms with that) and then got word from those higher up and Obama himself that this was not to be made an issue, because it isn’t an issue. I don’t doubt that Obama’s reason for speaking well of Clinton or saying what he has said is anything but good will, intelligence and a solid take on what actually does take place in America when people get whipped up into a frenzy and start acting like a mob. It’s why Drudge traffics in the sewer he does.

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/24/8919/33412

  34. Evening folks — Rico, I’ll have a double Fiddich OTR.

    Is it just me or does anyone else think if you threw a little straightener on Arianna that an older Ann Coulter would appear?

    BTW, loved the video.

  35. Gary,

    I would love to know who told everyone to dial it back. It wasn’t Obama. He never makes a commitment about anything.

  36. Melanie–he’s NOT defending her. Someone posted something in the thread below, supposedly from Clinton’s campaign, that accused Obama’s campaign of giving copies of KO’s statement to reporters. It’s the same old dance as usual, play dirty, then deny deny deny.

  37. Prolix: that’s Ahheeahhnah.

  38. bboomer. he never backs off either. something’s up with that. Of course now they’re trying to spin it that he didn’t have anything to do with the campaign’s comment. that is familiar behavior….never take responsibility for anything.

  39. Fantastic video. I’m passing it around.

  40. Oh wait. So now this is our fault. We are using this to attack Obama. I think all of us, including Hillary, would have enjoyed yesterday a little bit more had all of this not occurred.

  41. Gavche, then why is the Yahoo headline “Obama empathsizes with Hillary’s RFK comments”?

  42. Gary, I think you were right in the first place. Someone in the Kennedy family must have told them to back off–maybe RFK Jr. called Teddy?

  43. Yes. Hillary’s campaign did send out a memo today saying that the Obama campaign circulated KO’s special comment to reporters.

  44. Good grief, is Obama’s staff getting blamed *again*?

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/06/obamas_staff.html

    Does Obama every take responsibility for anything? What a desirable quality in a candidate for president.

  45. well, he didn’t do it because he wanted to.

  46. Ben, Passive-aggressive behavior is amazing, isn’t it? Obama is a master of the art form. I can just imagine what their home life is like. Michele orders Barack around and he makes passive aggressive digs, then acts all innocent.

    “Why what do you mean dear? I was just scratching my face. You’re making a mountain out of a molehill.”

  47. Melanie–I meant he’s pretending to defend her when really his campaign is pushing the story for all it’s worth. You said him defending her make you dislike him more, I’m saying don’t worry he’s really doing all he can to sandbag her on it as usual. Smack with one hand, offer a peace offering with another.

  48. It’s actually pretty funny that Obama’s campaign had to distribute KO’s comments to reporters. I guess they don’t bother to watch his show then?

  49. bb, (giggle) snort. scratching, yep…..

    Oh, that video was good. Did you hear her calmly telling Obama supporters to get out of the Hillary blogs? 🙂

  50. ben, do you have a link about the KO memo thing?

  51. Yeah, KB, she was great. Much better than Olbermann actually.

  52. Gavche, I know he pushed the story and his defending her is false. That’s what I meant. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

  53. Bourbon is always what I’m in the mood for – always from Kentucky and always sourmash.

    And always with a cigar too. Something robust, maybe a Boulevard or a Monticristo? Fuente anyone? A Drew Estate Dirt when I want something sweet.

    Does anyone else think that the MSM has mirrored the exact same downfall as politics in America – where the integrity is lost, where it’s a running joke (yet even worse – horrifically accurate) that you know that they’re lieing to you, where you take them at face value at your own peril?

    I have cease to think that common sense shall prevail in these events. This entire campaign Obama has double talked and contradicted himself only to be praised, while our fighter Hillary has been deamonized for having the audacity to refrence facts and use logic. Donna Brazile and her new coalition is doing it’s best to push us out for good. So no, common sense isn’t gonna do the trick. It’s gonna take a strong chin and a good right hook – hopefully delivered effectively in Denver, but otherwise sure to be landed in Nov.

  54. Riverdaughter, sorry, but I flunked the “Green Acres” charm school course. Arnold Ziffel and I were always out rooting around.

  55. Gary:

    Hillary’s campaign sent it out in her “talking point” emails today. This is the best I can do:

    Clinton Surrogate Alert: CAMPAIGN MEMO

    To: Interested Parties

    From: Clinton Campaign

    Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008

    Yesterday at an editorial board meeting of the Argus Leader, Senator Clinton was asked about the possibility of her dropping out of the race.

    She responded by making the point that Presidential nominating campaigns had historically gone into summer and beyond.

    Transcript Follows:

    HRC: This is the most important job in the world. It’s the toughest job in the world. You should be willing to campaign for every vote. You should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere. I think it’s an interesting juxtaposition where we find ourselves and you know, I have been willing to do all of that during the entire process and people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa and I find it.

    EB: Why? Why?

    HRC: I don’t know I don’t know I find it curious because it is unprecedented in history. I don’t understand it and between my opponent and his camp and some in the media, there has been this urgency to end this and you know historically that makes no sense, so I find it a bit of a mystery.

    EB: You don’t buy the party unity argument?

    HRC: I don’t, because again, I’ve been around long enough. You know my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere around the middle of June. We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I just I don’t understand it. There’s lots of speculation about why it is.

    This is a point Senator Clinton has made before.

    In March, she told Time magazine: “Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn’t wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual.”

    Her remarks then did not engender any controversy – and the Argus Leader editorial board issued this statement about her comments yesterday:

    “The context of the question and answer with Sen. Clinton was whether her continued candidacy jeopardized party unity this close to the Democratic convention. Her reference to Mr. Kennedy’s assassination appeared to focus on the timeline of his primary candidacy and not the assassination itself.”
    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. also issued the following statement in response:
    “It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband’s 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense.”

    Soon after the editorial board, some in the media began hyping Senator Clinton’s comments in a sensationalistic manner and the Obama campaign sent out a statement attacking her comments. This morning, the Obama campaign sent a transcript of Keith Olbermann’s attack on Senator Clinton to reporters.

    Senator Clinton has expressed regret for her comments – she knows that any mention of Senator Kennedy’s death is painful for many Americans, especially the Kennedy family. Her only intent was to raise other examples where the nominating process had gone into June.

    As the primary process winds down it is time for the Democratic family to begin the process of coming together. Senator Clinton is committed to that process and will remain so.

  56. Sorry for misunderstanding what you were saying, Melanie. I was personally shocked that he would have that much chutzpah to be so blatant about it as to be handing out copies to reporters in the open, although I should have learned by this time.

  57. thanks ben. so as late as this morning, Obama still hadn’t gotten around to telling his campaign staff to knock it off? This train was off the rails by 5pm yesterday. what took so long?

  58. (whispering: don’t say anything sarcastic)

  59. I go back to what I’ve been saying all along…I thought they didn’t need Hillary’s supporters OR they think we will all come back together in a big love fest come Denver. So why do they even care what her supporters think?

  60. maybe like their candidate, they just can’t stop themselves….

  61. …or it is the hope that Copernicus wasn’t wrong about everything and the universe really does revolve around them…

  62. I think this is a song we should devote to Hillary: (I know it’s a bit Sex in the City) but if you listen to the words….

  63. It’s too bad the Obama campaign didn’t send the video of Olbermann’s special comment, just for kicks, because it’s a million times better than the words themselves at revealing the level of lunacy going on here.

  64. Just to go back to a previous question–why is the MSM intentionally distorting the story by reporting that Sen. Clinton referenced the assassination as a reason to stay in the race?

  65. Because they’re a bunch of f***ing cowards driven by groupthink?

  66. Because the SCLM are ultimately in the tank for McCain, and want desperately to get rid of his only viable rival, and the actual liberal bits of the media are inexplicably in love with obama and in loathing with clinton?

    “Media” may be a plural word technically but it ends up being singular in effect.

  67. I just saw the story about Obama pretending he had nothing to do with yesterday’s BS.

    Once again, we see a ginned up fauxrage by Obama supporters, that, having run it’s course or, as in this case, become counter-productive, now being tepidly denounced by Obama himself.

    His campaign covertly fans the flames, then he claims credit for displaying class in attempting to put out the fire.

    In South Carolina, he sat quietly while his staff pushed the race card meme, but when the internal talking point memo surfaced, suddenly he gave a wishy-washy statement that the Clintons weren’t running a racist campaign and wanted to “move on.”

    Sorry, I’m not buying it.

  68. I love cocktail parties, they are so elite.

  69. What is the strategy for the disaffected Hillary supporters that may sit out or vote for McCain in the fall? In what way will this help realize their core ideals as Democrats?

    Sweetie, the answer to these questions and more can be found with a simple stroll through the search engines. Have some self respect sir (or madam) and look it up for yourself.

    And spare us your concern.

  70. Is it too late to join the party?

  71. The strategy is to point out that Obama is an opportunist of epic proportions and that an Obama presidency would be disasterous for this country. The point is to NOT sell out our core ideals as democrats and insist that EVERY VOTE COUNTS in FL/MI. Until Obama encourges the DNC to do so as well, he has no place running to be president of this planets’ greatest democracy. Can’t you see that Obama is NEVER held accountable or his actions? I will vote for either Hillary, or whoever has the best chances of defeating candidate Obama.

    sorry for answering for you ben…..

  72. …..sweetie

  73. {{Pat}} !! and {{Gary}} !! It’s great to see you! No it’s not to late.

    Gary you’re much nicer than me. Have I ever mentioned that?

  74. I rather vote McCain than voting for Obama when he gets the nomination.

  75. not possible Katie 🙂

  76. Watch out — I’m this: | | close to a group hug

  77. “then Clinton would also find herself without a significant and necessary portion of the Democratic voting ranks.”

    Except much of Obama’s base is in red states.

    All votes aren’t created equal. Some people’s are artifically worth more during primaries, others are artificially worth more during the real election. If Obama was actually the CHANGE candidate, he’d have worked to change that, but he doesn’t seem interested. I wish Clinton did, too, but she’s not the change candidate, she’s just the status quo with competency candidate.

  78. ummm. This Merlot is wonderful, Rico — thank you 😉

  79. We are controlled by the MSM. They are bought and paid for by corporate sponsors. There will be an uprising someday and it well may be when someone decides to break the change of the masters. KO should be strung up by his ankles. The overpaid blowhard!

  80. Misfit and Little Sister regarding the “news report on NPR
    Weekend Edition this morning (Hillary mentions RFK assassination as a reason for staying in the race).”

    I haven’t been able to find this online, but did e-mail them the day before
    yesterday
    regarding biased reporting. On a separate matter, I was interviewed by Ina Jaffee at a Clinton
    event and completely misconstrued (to fit Jafee’s topic about how
    Democratic voters might do the unthinkable and vote McCain). She
    had what I said on tape, and at that time I emphasized that I’d vote for “The Democrat.” She also tailored the remark of the woman (a lawyer)
    she interviewed with me. After hearing the piece, we agreed that the media always
    distorts for its own purpose. I’ve been mentioned several times before
    in newspapers and what I told the “reporter” never remotely matched
    what I said.

    I did reply that the third-rate quality of their contribution to the Fourth Estate was why I
    was no longer donating to NPR.

  81. Is there a “Sweetie” lurking?

  82. Damn! My sentences are so badly constructed. Shit. That’s what I get for drinking up a storm today.

  83. My core issues as a Democrat are trying to destroy the reputation and career of any woman who has the nerve to run for office, making as many insane accusations as possible against any such woman, denying doing everything I’m doing, channeling karl rove on steroids, consolodating all the party’s power in me personally, undercutting any attempts to act ideologically on on principle because that nonsense is for idealistic chumps who dont understand power and patronage, showing complete contempt for anyone who isn’t well off, and disenfrachising as many voters as possible. As a result, a vote for Obama pretty much advances all my core values. Yay me.

  84. katie, how do you drink Merlot? Straight, mixed with something? I have a bottle but I can’t say I like it very much.

  85. Rico, quick please give me another double Fiddich or I may be forced to unleash my inner Austen Powers on those who would believe you can put any name on a name tag for this primary.

  86. tabbycat, you should get a nice boxed Franzia — it’ll last years.

  87. thanks katie. my blood pressure was starting to go up….

  88. @MABlue: Why do you hate hope?

    Seriously, an Obama supporter actually told me that once.

  89. Conundrum: We probably would all agree that we have been pretty much disenchanted with the Dem Party since the 2006 election. They promised much, delivered little. And now we are led to believe that this is the dawn of a new age of Democratic Party leadership with the Obama faction taking the lead.

    If that is the case, then why is the Dem leadership under Pelosi so acclimated in their support of Obama? Wouldn’t his position put them at odds with their current hold? Why would they be backing the candidate who promises to change this status quo? Am I missing something here?

  90. I had to google Franzia katie! I’m not a wine drinker. I’m a hardcore low-info beer drinker.

  91. Hope? You mean Nope?

  92. What is the strategy for the disaffected Hillary supporters that may sit out or vote for McCain in the fall? In what way will this help realize their core ideals as Democrats?

    For many if not most of us, Ben, it’s not a “strategy” at all except insofar as it may be the only way to salvage what’s left of our civic life. It’s about doing what we still can to maintain our core ideals as small-d democrats, since so many of us have already left or are on our way out of the party that has been more than clear about our complete irrelevance. Many of us have concluded that if things look close in our home states, to the point where sitting it out could elect Obama, the lesser evil will be casting a vote for McCain, noxious though that idea would have seemed to every last one of us, no doubt, before this troubling putsch by Obama and his libertarian/bolshevik/Wall Street bedfellows.

    Make mine a Manhattan, Rico, straight up.

  93. Gary, it was my pleasure…

    Davidson (spitting laugh) That makes me laugh every time! It takes me right back to last winter.

    Pat, We’ve got beer too. I just happen to like a little glass of wine on a Saturday night.

    MABlue, how are you?

  94. Um Katiebird? Is your cousin married? Does she ever date strange men?

    (cuz I’m pretty strange)

  95. It’s just that we are being asked to be naive, to not pay attention to the fact that counting FL/MI in the way Clintion would like has the side effect of putting her in the best possible position to win the nomination. I think this is a legitimate criticism of Clinton’s position.

    That’s funny. We all seemed so united in 2000. The Democratic party in favor of the Democratic approach: this is a Democracy and you always rule in favor of the will of the voters.

    No Democratic candidate (real or otherwise) has the right to overrule that. It’s been a party principle for longer than some Democrats have even been members of the party.

  96. katiebird: I have had several martinis tonight. Went out to dinner and couldn’t resist. Thought of you this afternoon with those twisters they televised. Looks like you came out okay.

  97. myiq2xu, My cousins are married, but I’ve got a lovely single sister. And she’s a Confluencian!

  98. KB:

    Doing much better thanks. Ready to go all the way to Denver.

  99. And I’ll let her speak to her attraction to (and for) strange men herself — I wouldn’t touch that question for anything!

  100. CB– the NPR item was a news story rather than a piece that would be on the website–party of what made it so bad. I sent an email about biased reporting. It just seems endemic, however. The level of integrity in reporting is abysmal

  101. Sorry folks; I should have trusted the our incredibly adept and charming bouncer. Sorry Katiebird.

    Had a great dinner with my lover and brother. Still moving off that high of amazing appetizers and chocolate ecstasy cake.

    Moving down the bar to drink my gingerale quietly and ignore the trolls. Love you all.

  102. The level of reporting is essentially non existent. It is just throw it out there and see what sticks. But for the record: Long Live Helen Thomas! One of the few left who can truly be considered a reporter. And she has no use for Obama. Yay, Helen!

  103. MABlue, I’m so glad — take care of yourself (are able to join us with a drink tonight?)

    We’re fine up here Pat, not a cloud in the sky all day. I think the tornadoes were several hundred miles south of me. I did have a weird experience though. I came in the house and some helicopter team was filming the twister LIVE and it went on forever. Very scary. I wonder how close they actually were? It looked close.

  104. I love this blog and riverdaughter and katiebird and garychapelhill. I read this blog and feel less on my own in my concerns and misgivings and lack of trust.

    For the first time in my life I’m thinking about not voting Democratic and that frightens me. I’ve been a party loyalist and I’m so disgusted by their behavior that I wish third parties had more power. I always thought voter intimidation, disenfranchisement, mindless attacks, and complete denial of reality or a fact based world were tools of only the Republican party. This election taught me that Democrats can be just as crazy as the craziest right-wingers and that saddens me because I always thought we were the sane ones. I’ve lost all respect for Keith Olbermann and will never read certain blogs again.

    Last night the DNC called for a donation and my dad told them that they were spineless and getting money from the same people as the Republicans. I really feel at this point there’s very little difference between the parties.

    If Democrats don’t fight for the workers, for the consumers, for the underdog, for the person being ground down by the system, for children who are having to take care of their sick parents because of health care problems…who will?

  105. {{Cdalygo}} Amazing, isn’t it. It only took me 54 years to find my true calling: A bouncer in a Hillary Bar (cough) Blog….

  106. KB;

    I actually had to open a bottle of red wine yesterday during the whole RFK brouhaha.

    I watched that interview live and even commented on this blog while it was going on. I provided the link and some Conflucians joined for the last minutes.
    It was again a masterful performance from HRC and she knocked down any rumor of VP negotiations.

    What happened after so infuriated me that I needed something to relax.

  107. Rachel: You will note that the “tug” you are feeling is very much like what the rest of us are wrestling with on this blog. It is pretty disconcerting to see so many of us turning our backs on the DNC as of late but this is strictly due in part to their handling of this election. They are a bunch of bozos.

    The fight is still within us but the frustration is making an appearance. Most of us are pretty much anti-Obama for many reasons. You are not alone.

  108. katiebird: They were showing Bison, OK when I had the tv on earlier today. Haven’t seen much news since this afternoon.

  109. I found this on NPR! Hillary positive!

    COMMENTARY

    Why I Love Hillary

    by Susan Cheever

    Listen Now [2 min 32 sec] add to playlist
    All Things Considered, May 14, 2008 · Why is it that the more Hillary loses, the better I like her? (Yes, I know she won last night but that’s already being dismissed.) She’s glowing with the inner fire of the warrior in a battle she can’t win without a miracle — why do I identify with that so much? Why do I feel after forty years of voting, that at last for once, there is a politician who truly represents me and not just because she wears pantsuits?

    When I tell a handsome man at a party that I support Hillary, he looks my black pantsuit up and down. “That figures, you’re an older woman,” he says. I am hurt, but he is right. Woman get their power from their looks and Hillary has worn away her youth in the service of a difficult husband, a smart child and the ideal of service. She was never the pretty, simpering, long-legged blonde we were all supposed to be; she had to find another way to be a woman. Me too.

    “I love her because she is a loser, and I’m a loser,” I tell my brother.

    “But Sue, you are a big success,” he says.

    Hillary’s a success too, but she’s a worker, and women don’t get respect for being hard workers, they get respect for having good legs. She’s a woman dedicated to social justice, but women don’t get respect for their dedication — they get it for their baking skills. She’s a woman with staying power. But women don’t get respect for their staying power, they get respect for their sexual power.

    My generation of women were told that our biggest job was to marry the right guy — and the sooner the better. When I went for career counseling my last year of college, the dean gave me her condolences.

    “All our best girls are engaged,” she said. Oh yes, it sounds outrageously antique, but is it? I never talk for long about my 26-year-old daughter, a lawyer and an activist at Harvard, without someone asking: “And is she seeing someone?”

    Women like me usually run for president of the PTA or president of some nice arts organization. We don’t usually get to run for president of the United States. At last here’s a woman who wants to play with the big boys, and she’s qualified, and she’s giving them a run for her money. And I love her for that.

    Susan Cheever is a writer who lives in New York City. She’s the author of the forthcoming book Desire: Where Sex Meets Addiction.

  110. Davidson -“And when did Clinton join the cast of Harry Potter? Seriously, “dark arts?”
    As my daughter says: why vote for Malfoy when you can vote for Hermone!

  111. MABlue, I can’t even imagine the shock you must have felt when that perfectly reasonable interview was so grossly misjudged.

    (snort) misjudged! I mean misrepresented…..

    (I’ll NEVER trust Big Tent Democrat’s judgment again not that I really did)

  112. Hermione

  113. I thought I smelled troll stench.

    I’ve gotten to the point I don’t even want to argue with trolls anymore. That used to be one of my favorite hobbies.

  114. RachelE, Thank you so much — we’re really happy to meet you.

  115. myiq2xu? Did you see my reply above?

  116. I like guessing the ages of the trolls. Much of the time I know they are not CEO or MD material. ( No offense to any CEOs or MDs who may be dialing in.)

  117. NPR does have some pro-Hillary commentary. This one is by John Cheever’s daughter, an author in her own right. You can listen to it online.

    Why I Love Hillary

    by Susan Cheever

    All Things Considered, May 14, 2008 · Why is it that the more Hillary loses, the better I like her? (Yes, I know she won last night but that’s already being dismissed.) She’s glowing with the inner fire of the warrior in a battle she can’t win without a miracle — why do I identify with that so much? Why do I feel after forty years of voting, that at last for once, there is a politician who truly represents me and not just because she wears pantsuits?

    When I tell a handsome man at a party that I support Hillary, he looks my black pantsuit up and down. “That figures, you’re an older woman,” he says. I am hurt, but he is right. Woman get their power from their looks and Hillary has worn away her youth in the service of a difficult husband, a smart child and the ideal of service. She was never the pretty, simpering, long-legged blonde we were all supposed to be; she had to find another way to be a woman. Me too.

    “I love her because she is a loser, and I’m a loser,” I tell my brother.

    “But Sue, you are a big success,” he says.

    Hillary’s a success too, but she’s a worker, and women don’t get respect for being hard workers, they get respect for having good legs. She’s a woman dedicated to social justice, but women don’t get respect for their dedication — they get it for their baking skills. She’s a woman with staying power. But women don’t get respect for their staying power, they get respect for their sexual power.

    My generation of women were told that our biggest job was to marry the right guy — and the sooner the better. When I went for career counseling my last year of college, the dean gave me her condolences.

    “All our best girls are engaged,” she said. Oh yes, it sounds outrageously antique, but is it? I never talk for long about my 26-year-old daughter, a lawyer and an activist at Harvard, without someone asking: “And is she seeing someone?”

    Women like me usually run for president of the PTA or president of some nice arts organization. We don’t usually get to run for president of the United States. At last here’s a woman who wants to play with the big boys, and she’s qualified, and she’s giving them a run for her money. And I love her for that.

    Susan Cheever is a writer who lives in New York City. She’s the author of the forthcoming book Desire: Where Sex Meets Addiction.

  118. Pat –

    I’m very pro-Hillary but I have to admit that it’s hard not to be anti-Obama sometimes. I still can’t believe that FOX news is more balanced than CNN or MSNBC. This election feels like it takes place in an alternate universe.

    katiebird – thank you! It’s nice to meet you too.

  119. katiebird: yes Are you mad at your sister or something?

  120. Oh, no — not at all, she’s my Hillary buddy.

    It’s just that at the time I wrote it, there was a good chance she would be able to answer for herself. It doesn’t seem like she’s here tonight though.

    She’s joaniebone when she’s here.

  121. Oh snap! From No Quarter:

    “I received this story indirectly. Alegre first posted it at Hillary’s Voice but she said she received it from someone else. So in all honesty I ripped it off and modified it a little. But I think you will all enjoy this immensely.

    Senator Obama was seated next to a little girl on an airplane, on a trip back from his many fundraisers. Trying to unwind, he turned toward her and said, “Let’s talk. I’ve uh heard that flights go quicker if you uh strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.” The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to the Senator, “What would you like to talk about?”

    Thinking he had an opening to dazzle her with his superior intelligence Obama said, “Oh, Uh I don’t know, How about foreign uh policy? I know more about that than anyone else,” he said with a wide grin.

    “OK,” the little girl said, “That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first.”

    “A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff-grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?”

    Obama, visibly surprised by the little girl’s own intelligence, thinks about it for a minute and then says, “Hmmm, Uh I have no idea.”

    To which the little girl replied, “Do you really feel qualified to discuss foreign policy when you obviously don’t know shit?”

  122. Katiebird: I probably scared her.

    Most women find my charms easy to resist.

  123. myiq2xu — Naw — she’s probably not online. She wouldn’t be afraid of you, I swear…

    giggling — I love that story.

  124. Rachel: The only reason I suspect that we tune into Fox is because it is the only cable new program that does not bash Hillary as often as the others. I never used to watch it but lately it is the only one I can stomache.

    myiq2xu: Loved the No Quarter post! They even included the hee’ing and haw’ing stutter.

  125. CB–I heard Susan Cheever’s comments when they aired. They were great! I still have the feeling that some of these things emerge only because NPR thinks Hillary has lost. I remember them being subtley biased against Gore in 2000 also.

  126. Sweetie, the answer to these questions and more can be found with a simple stroll through the search engines. Have some self respect sir (or madam) and look it up for yourself.

    All I really have to say is to that is this.

  127. I’ll have a drink with you all. My preference is a nice chilled glass of Chardonay! (No, no latte, NOBAMA!)

    I’m still so grateful for this site and for you all. I’ve been reading but responding infrequently.

    I, too, am tired of Obama waiting to see which way the wind blows, then making a comment of some sort. Guess he doesn’t really have an opinion or an original thought about anything.

    CB-on a personal note….do you know Larry? I saw that you mentioned North GA. Just wondering. Couldn’t be such a small world, I guess.

    Thank you, Riverdaughter, for keeping me calm.

  128. Lakota,

    I live in Northern California, but have lived in Cobb County and travel there several times a year. The name “Newt Gingrich” was just so unusual that I couldn’t forget it.

    Misfit,

    PBS & NPR were infected with Bush-ites. They rely on government funding. Attempts have been made to destroy it just as with the FDA and disaster management. Reduced funding and cronyism. Ina Jaffee looked pretty bored, I must say. I wonder how the atmosphere is over at NPR these days.

    Terry Gross must be rolling her eyes when she has to be “fair and balanced” and interview some right-wing preacher to counter having a dialog with a philosophical thinker. She is a very gracious interviewer. I would be sarcastic with those who don’t believe in science.

    In 2005, Molly Ivins wrote:

    Ken Tomlinson, the Bush-appointed chairman of the board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), says the network is riddled with leftist leanings.

    I think that if Obama is the nominee, there will be more eulogies for Hillary Clinton as candidate. I will definitely be angry at the loss. The Hope+Change(TM) ad campaign wasn’t intended for much examination or for the long haul.

  129. Trollin’,

    Your name says it all.

  130. Oooh, trolls!

    *poking with stick*

    Eyew, squishy.

    Hey, I thought the Beautiful People didn’t need us anymore. They sure seem interested in dropping by tonight. You’d almost thing they were uncertain about their inevitability, wouldn’t you? Else, why worry about we common folk?

    Rico, I’m thinking I’ll take a splash more red wine before turning in. If anyone hasn’t seen myiq2xu’s post on Corrente, it’s tremendous — note the comments as well. Made me laugh. I think the theatre is becoming… a little obvious.

    http://correntewire.com/obama_kabuki

  131. Alice,

    The beautiful people stop by now and again to save us from ourselves, just like Paris Hilton, who, after her unfortunate incarceration was going to save Africa, indigent mothers, and women who choose to go commando.

  132. Thanks Alice!

    You don’t own a restaurant, do you?

  133. Myiq2xu,

    Really enjoyed your post over at Corrente. Very nicely done.

  134. (BLUSHES)

    Thanks, sometimes they just write themselves.

  135. The main board that I post on is Obama-centric. There are some McCain posters there but it appears they are rooting for Obama until he wins.

    I’m sooooooooo tired of it.

    There are only a handful of Clinton posters but we try to speak up and all of us post quite a bit.

    Anyway, I’m just bitchen…. I’m tired of trying to fight back politely. Whenever I think about all the media coverage of Clinton’s cleavage, I start to wonder why we don’t question what the guys are packing too. How well hung is Obama? Seriously.

    Oh well….

  136. Gracie,

    I wondered why he would only meet people without precondition, now it makes sense.

  137. Thanks RD,

    How very big of BO. “I have learned that when you are campaigning …sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make and I think that is what happened here…Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offense by it and I will take her at her word on that.” Could he have been any more grudging toward her?

    And what does he have to say to his supporters and the pundits who spent the past 36 hours ASSASSINATING THE CHARACTER OF SENATOR CLINTON. No words of condemnation for them; no recommendation that they apologize to her; no expression of sympathy or regret for what she has been put through. No concern for the physical harm that might befall HER if his henchmen continue in this manner.

    Once again, he comports himself like sociopath and allows this latest round of political butchery to run its hideous course.

  138. Oh, Gracie 7,

    Yes why not do the analogy, let’s compare Hillary’s cleavage to BO’s package. Actually he provided ample opportunity the other day, when he was wearing jeans on his campaign plane and all the female reporters were yelling about taking his picture.

    On the YouTube video of it, Obama straddled the corridor, put his foot up on the opposite seat, flashed his MOOSE KNUCKLE (male equivalent of camel toe), and the gals hooted and clicked away.

    I was amazed that story, with those VISUALS, didn’t get any traction in the media. It was priceless.

    Imagine Hillary, sticking out her bust, and pulling her sweater tight for the boys and the cameras!

  139. for the Orc blogs out there:
    ANYone who thinks for a nano-second that Hillary was talking about anything except primaries frequently going into June or indeed to the convention (Teddy was behind 750 pledged delegates) is in Cloud-Cuckoo Land.
    It’s sickening that this kind of heinous nonsense gains any traction. Get a grip.

    Just for a reality-check, if you’re one of the delusional who is on a hyena howl of lunatic outrage, I can guarantee you that you are 100% hallucinating. So you might gauge your frantic spittle-spewing rancor against that certain knowledge & look in the mirror & see that your ancient reptilian brain is deceiving you in a frightening way.

  140. Hey kids! Here’s a fun new game called “Six Degrees of Obama:

    The first player takes quote out of any statement by Hillary, Bill, or any Hillary staff member or prominent supporter, and the second player has to link a word from it to Barack Obama in an offensive way within six links.

    Hillary says “This is all a big kabuki dance”

    Dance – racial sterotype of black people being good dancers – Obama is black – Obama danced with Ellen Degeneres on her show – Hillary is saying Obama is a good dancer because he’s black.

    See how fun and easy it is?

    For more go to:
    http://www.correntewire.com/six_degrees_of_obama

  141. myiq2xu,

    That would require me to start thinking like the Obamoids.

    I really don’t want to go there as a I value my sanity.

  142. While the liberal MSNBC is busy bashing the first viable woman candidate for President at every opportunity someone on the FOX is touting a feminist blog and complaining about sexism. The world has shifted on it’s axis and I can no longer believe my own eyes.

    And I don’t even have the excuse of drinking too much because I quit drinking the same day I quit smoking, September 11, 2001. (Actually I just quit smoking but knew if I had a couple of my favorite tipples, that would be Killian Red, I would light up and I did not want to do that.) Perhaps a virtual Killians’ would not lead to a cigarette? In that case Rico, one Killian Red, no glass thank you.

    Body Snarking via FOX news
    http://jezebel.com/5010754/remember-the-sisterhood

    Even a couple of beers is not enough to make me support Obama. A six pack or a case won’t do it either.

  143. Pie Hole- That video of the campaign plane explained a lot of the coverage of this election. It is clear that the media feels like they are covering a rock concert instead of a presidential campaign. I have a 16 year old daughter and fortunately, she is more mature than the women reporters on that plane. I was embarrassed. OT- I like men as much as the next girl, but I do not see what others see in Obama.

  144. “Too Much, Too Little, Too Late” was one of my favorite songs in high school. Very appropriate choice.

  145. Pie Hole, he’s an absolute disgrace. And it absolutely blows my mind that websites like this are still getting concern trolls, what part of he’s burned all his damn bridges this time don’t they get. I wish Clinton weren’t as loyal as she is, I’d love for her to say “I apologized to the Kennedys for bringing up painful memories for them. I did not and will not apologize to Senator Scumbag. His statements, masking, as ever, his filthy lies, leave me appalled but not surprised. He’s a disgusting excuse for a human being, and owes apologies to me, to the Kennedy family, and to the American people, including the hundreds of thousands who have awakened from their delusions and regret voting for him. Accusing me of what he’s accusing me of is so insane and revolting it has no place in American politics, and neither does he. He should be ashamed to sink this low, although it’s no more than we have come to expect. I understand that Senator Obama has no resume, no principles, no ideas, and nothing to offer. An empty suit doesn’t merit a vote, so he has to resort to appalling assassination of the character of everyone he comes across, it’s always been his MO. But exploiting the death of a great American is low, even for him. You, sir, are no RFK, that comparison is a disgrace, you’re not even a Karl Rove, though you want to be, and you have far more in common than the forces that RFK opposed than you could ever have with him. Not everything in this world is about you and yoursleazy tactics combined with your pathetic delusions of grandeur, you cheap third rate pol. You don’t even have the decency to be ashamed, well, sir, I am more than ashamed enough for you. I hope you spent the rest of your miserable political career acquainting yourself with the principles of truth and decency that have so emphatically eluded you thus far.” Okay a girl can dream. 🙂

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