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Afternoon Roundup- Tax Day

Ok, So, today is tax day. Do you know where your refund is? I got a refund but not a rebate. 😦 Apparently, I am wealthy now so I do not need the extra cash. This happens to a lot of New Jerseyans. The money goes out but rarely comes back. *sigh*

How are the candidates doing on taxes? Well, we know that Clinton is all up to date. Yup, 30 years of tax returns in the public domain. Obama? Hmmm, there seem to be a few years missing, like 1997-1999. I’m sure he just misplaced them on his messy desk. Happens all of the time. Ha-Ha! Remember when Hillary lost a box of Rose Law Firm billing records during her move from Arkansas and the Republicans made a federal case out of it? Ah, yes, the good old days, when you could be expected to testify before a grand jury about your missing box of billable hours. And there was no THERE there. Makes you all nostalgic, doesn’t it? I’m sure that will never happen to Obama.

McCain on the other hand is busily spending his day planning more tax cuts for corporations including what would amount to a $1.4 Billion break for Exxon. Then there are all of those offshore tax shelters and corporations where various wealthy individuals and companies have socked away *trillions* of dollars.

Speaking of money, Obama is outspending Clinton by something like 2:1 in advertising. This week, he is spending $3.3 Million on advertising in PA. I saw one of his ads when I was in PA. It was one of those rally things with hope and change yadda-yadda-yadda. All that was missing was closing his eyes and clicking his ruby slippers together three times. But hey, some people like that stuff. It rarely results in a sale but you can never be too careful. If you’ve got a few bucks sitting around and you want to purchase a second or two of a Hillary spot, see this page toot sweet.

Hillary has some new proposals for keeping manufacturing in the US. One of them includes $20 Billion in plant restructuring costs to help Detroit carmakers make the transition to more fuel efficient cars. She also plans to reward companies that keep jobs from going overseas. And here’s an odd by insightful reason for it: if you don’t have an active manufacturing base, it’s a national security risk. Yeah, because you have to outsource your defense industry needs to China, for example. Not a good thing. So, she’s thinking ahead and developing policy strategically.

Oh, and as for Bitter-gate, Mom says that it’s dying down and that Obama needs to make another gaffe to keep Pennsylvanians entertained. I was going to say that tomorrow’s debate should be good hunting grounds but he’s had time to study up in the past 6 weeks. No doubt we will be seeing a smoother presentation (preferably without the use of ‘ah’ or ‘um’, which convey a sense of hesitation to the listener.) He’s probably polished his policies to a fine sheen. We are going to see a new and improved Obama. The media has already written the congratulatory post debate scripts for him.

But what I want to see is someone ask them about things that only a true Pennsylvanian would know. So here is a little quiz for Hillary to help her prepare:

  1. What do older Pennsylvanians say when they mean, “I’m going to clean my house”?
  2. What do Pittsburghers call bologna?
  3. What is a gum band?
  4. How does one pronounce the second person plural pronoun?
  5. What is Blennd?
  6. What does Primanti’s in Pittsburgh put in its sandwiches?
  7. What is Happy Valley famous for?
  8. Explain the complex liquor laws and where you can buy a sixpack.
  9. Describe the difference between Amish and Mennonite.
  10. What is (was) the significance of William Penn’s hat in Philadelphia?

Bonus questions:

  1. (from Dany): What is Pennsylvanian (or at least Coal Cracker) for “Turn out the lights”?
  2. (from Charles Lemos): Name the two Presidents from Pennsylvania. (Hint the second only had his home there but was born elsewhere.)
  3. (from Dany): Where do you find hex signs?

Ok, Hillary, just put your answers in the comments. No cheating with wiki. And all of you Pennsylvanians out there, suggest more questions.

Here are the answers, courtesy of Sarah, who thought the quiz was “too easy” (show off 😉 ):

1. “red up” as in red up the room-we’re having company (from ready up?)
2. Jumbo
3. rubber band
4. You-uns (in my town of Washington, Pa) RD: I say yinz.
5.Lemon Blennd – the drink RD: Reymer’s Lemon Blennd is a ooncentated lemon drink. Add H2O and stir.
6.slaw and fries on that Primanti Bros. sandwich in Pittsburgh
7. State College/ Penn State home
8.sixpacks can be bought at a bar, a beer distributor for a case, nothing in the supermarket or conveniance store (tho that is changing at designated stores), nothing on Sunday, liquor from a State store
9. Amish – no modern machines of any kind, Mennonite -some modern machines, like tractors, sometimes you see cars RD: I’ve seen Amish teenagers cheat at a laundrymat.
10. No building used to be able to be built in Phila taller than Wm Penn’s hat on City Hall – OK now
11. shut the lights or shut out the lights RD: alternate answers are “outten the lights” or “close da light”
12. Buchanon born here, Eisenhower lived here

75 Responses

  1. If you don’t have an active manufacturing base, it’s a national security risk. Yeah, because you have to outsource your defense industry needs to China, for example.

    Finally! Someone gets it.

    Someday we’ll find out about the dangers of outsourcing billing records too….

  2. Did you see this ? from BTD.. ? .. how sweet & too late ..

    “The Feminist Reawakening
    Hillary Clinton and the fourth wave.”
    http://nymag.com/news/features/46011/

    also from BTD –
    “SUSA PA Poll: Clinton By 14”
    http://tinyurl.com/5q7m4w

    Your questions are excellent seeing as we all ready know their policies, at least us political animals . I could be naive , but I have a strong gut feeling that Hillary would excel in this – she really, really is well rounded . Her knowledge is expansive, his is not, more like circular , circular jerk that is , sorry I couldn’t resist … promise to stop posting here today now … have fun All – will be back and forth reading every thing you say …

  3. Here are my guess answers to the PA quiz.

    1. Throw someone out?
    2. Baloney?
    3. A stick of gum?
    4. Yinz?
    5. Booze and beer?
    6. Provolone?
    7. Happiness?
    8. No clue about liquor. Buy a sixpack at a pharmacy?
    9. Amish have more sex?
    10. No clue

    You can tell there was no cheating since I probably got most wrong.

  4. Ufa: Your score= 1/10. Very entertaining answers but I see we need to study a bit more. Here’s a link that will help you with last question.

  5. 1. Wow.. no idea
    2. Baloney? (Is there any different word?)
    3. A rubber band
    4. Well, now, there’s “yinz” eg “you-uns” but not far south is “youze” territory
    5. I don’t know..
    6. Is that the place with the fries in the sandwich?
    7. Again.. ?? Not beer, right? Is that the dairy company that makes the happy cow ice cream?
    8. Taking a guess.. no sales on Sundays.. six packs only at liquor stores, none in supermarkets, but possibly at convenience stores?
    9. Ah.. wish I knew.. one of them is more lax about modern conveniences and you see them at the grocery stores 🙂
    10. I don’t know the Philly part, sorry!

  6. Amish bakeries are fantastic, by the way. Very simple foods but so good. No preservatives in anything and the most delicious fresh bread and cakes. Mennonites, I don’t think they sell goods do they?

  7. this post is so freakin funny I cant stand it!

  8. daria g: Your score= 3.5. Your liquor laws answer would be like *modern* compared to PA’s. Supermarkets? Convenience stores? Too funny. The only thing funnier is NJ’s where you can’t get a drink in probably half the restaurants in the state.

  9. rd: I see I need the Kaplan PA Review before the next test. Damn, I guess this means Swarthmore is out for now.

  10. ufa: There, there, don’t take it so badly. I’ll give the answers later tonight.

  11. daria g, you RULE! 3.5

  12. Ugh.. sorry riverdaughter, I’m from Maryland after all.. WV/MD liquor laws much easier to deal with. I could never remember which was which re: Mennonites and Amish. Was I right about the sandwiches?

  13. Off topic:

    Everyone, please hop over and read this post by Taylor Marsh, and then write to Air America and XM to get Taylor on the radio. She already has her web radio show, and I think she has been on the air before:

    http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27419

    Even before she supported Hillary, Taylor was fair, and she has taken a lot of grief from boys. Time that we helped her. Thanks.

  14. daria: Jeez, it’s just a silly quiz. It’s not like you are running for president where you have to know important stuff like this. 😉

    I was just mildly amused by the liquor laws answer. It’s so byzantine in PA that your answer seemed reasonable.
    I can’t tell you which ones you got right yet but I promise I’ll put the answers up later.

    OTOH, I know that the only appropriate seasoning for crabs is Old Bay and a Smith Island cake should have no fewer than nine layers but that’s about as much as I know about Maryland.

  15. It’s been over 40 years since I moved away from the coal region, but I’ll give it a try –

    1. Straighten the house (I was almost 50 before I knew this was a regionalism!)
    2. Don’t know about Pittsburg, but in Schuyllkill County, it’s summer sausage
    3. ?
    4. Youse
    5. ?
    6. ?
    7. Penn State
    8. You buy liquor at the liquor store, of course. You can buy beer by the glass at a bar, but you can only buy liquor by the glass at a restaurant. Unless you are in a private club. When you were old enough to drink, you could, in the olden days, get an LCB Card to flash in bars. Unless the Blue Laws have changed mightily, Sundays have their own set of rules.
    9. Outsiders consider them all Pennsylvania Dutch. The Amish however are seperatists and wear the old fashioned clothing, drive buggies, etc.
    10. Something to do with the top of Penn’s statue and building height? Or was that Franklin?

  16. Bonus Question – What is Pennsylvanian (or at least Coal Cracker) for “Turn out the lights”?

  17. Dany: Hmmm, “straighten the house” isn’t what I was looking for. Your score=3.5.
    I like your bonus question. Hope you don’t mind if I add it.

  18. I left PA 26 years ago but I’ll give this a shot

    1. Red up the house?
    2. Jumbo
    3. Rubber Band
    4. Younz
    5. I don’t know
    6. I don’t know
    7. I don’t know
    8. You can buy beer from a beer barn or a six pack from a bar but you have to buy hard liquor from a state store.
    9. Amish is no electric or cars. Mennonites are just a tad bit more progressive. Can drive cars.
    10. I don’t know
    11. I don’t know.

    You forgot to ask about Chipped Ham from Isley’s.

  19. lisadawn: Whoa! You’re good. Your score= 6.
    You’re absolutely right about chipped ham from Isley’s. I should have included it but I thought it was too much southwest PA.

  20. I haven’t a clue to any of these questions. Too far away in Massachusetts. Sorry.

  21. I figured the “gum band” was a rubber band. Here in Boston, they call them “elastics.” When I first moved here, it took me awhile to pick up the lingo. In Indiana we had grocery sacks. Here they have no idea what a “sack” is. Only bags. My worst shock was the first time I ordered a milk shake and got flavored milk. If you want ice cream, you have to order a frappe. And so on. It’s nice that there are still regionalisms.

  22. My childhood best friend’s mother was from Beaver Falls, PA. They summered on the Jersey Shore. I got to go out there with them once.

  23. The liquor laws have been loosened up in MA, I hear. Years ago the liquor stores were all closed on Sundays and holidays, plus election days. We used to drive up to NH to buy beer on Sunday sometimes. (I quit drinking in 1982, so I haven’t paid much attention). But I still live in a dry town. There are quite a few of them around here. No liquor stores allowed, and awhile back they started allowing a couple of restaurants to have liquor licenses. In Cambridge, you can buy beer and wine in grocery stores.

  24. RD –

    Quite clearly you need to score for east or west of the Susquehanna. Younz and “Red up the house” are a whole different dialect. Go to Frackville and see what they say 🙂

    More E PA lore – where do you find hex signs?

  25. Riverdaughter, Is Pennsylvania even part of the US? Your quiz is a riot! Just wanted to say how much I love this blog. It’s always the first one I look at each day.

  26. Okay, the Pennsylavania quiz:

    1. red up the room or red up the house
    2. ?
    3. rubber band
    4. younz
    5. ?
    6.?
    7. Penn State
    8. buy a 6-pack from the distributo’s loading dock
    9. Amish have no modern comveniences
    10. ?

    Presidents are James Buchanan, who was born in PA. and Eisenhower, who lived there.

  27. Finally, a new election is coming up. I haven’t been this excited (or nervous) about an election since Texas and Ohio. Go PA for Hillary!!!

  28. Dany: I’ll add the hex signs. Yes, younze is really not the same as yinz. I’m a yinzer.

    newhorizon: Thanks! Yes, this is a little known fact that Pennsylvania is indeed part of our country. After we agreed to host the first capital, the founding fathers felt obligated to let us stay in the union.
    The southwest part of the state was French territory before we told them to take their smelly cheese elsewhere. The picture in the header is of the Point at the confluence of the Monongahela and Allegheny rivers to form the Ohio. There is the outline of the old fort from those days.

  29. Casey: Your score= 7. I had never tried to buy the sixpack from the loading dock. Is it legal?

  30. riverdaughter-

    I have never tried it, but my former partner is from Pittsburgh, and she told me that’s the way to do it.

  31. casey: I gave you credit for it but I think this might be more customary than legal. Any way you slice it, it’s a stupid way to buy beer.

  32. Total guesses here but here’s my answers:

    1. Cleaning the House Tonight?

    2. Bacon?

    3. Marching Band?

    4. Yous?

    5. A PA Smoothie?

    6. Pastrami?

    7. Hershey Amusement Park?

    8. Can’t buy Liquor on Sundays?

    9. Mennonite Women are not allowed to wear pants only dresses while Amish Women can?

    10. He marked the spot where Philadelphia will be built with that hat?

    Did I get any right?

  33. WS: Technically, you didn’t get any right but Penn probably did mark the spot where Philly would be built, just not with his hat.

    But you have some very creative answers (a marching band?) and that’s always worth something.

  34. Too funny. I won’t do the quiz, cause I am actually from there, but I must say I am stumped with question 5.
    I will look forward to seeing the answer for that.

    newhorizon. when I was growing up we thought Pennsylvania WAS the United States. Period.
    Going to the shore in Jersey seemed foreign….
    but as they took american money, we did it anyway.

  35. Wow! “Red up the house” – takes me back to my days in Western PA (Ellwood City to be exact.) Good times.

  36. riverdaughter, I demand a 50/50 split of the right answers!

  37. riverdaughter-

    I agree- it is a stupid way to buy beer. I have to say, having grown up in Illinois, I thought Oregon’s liquor laws were ridiculous and convoluted, but PA is so much crazier.

  38. WS: Score= 0.5 + 2 for creativity.

  39. Hey, no one’s answering the bonus questions except one of you who got the presidents. Bonus 3 is really easy.

  40. Even having grown up in neighboring Joisey (but in the Nawthun half) I was afraid to take the Pennsylvania test.

    Inspired by riverdaughter’s bravery in an earlier post, I am watching Tweety right now. He is on his college tour with John McShame. Tweety started off with a promising question: How do you distinguish yourself from George W. Bush. McShame then rambled on aimelessly about how he shared many values with Bush, but that he had taken different positions on a number of matters like the environment, the execution of the war. No follow-up. Tweety then asked, “What about this statement that you’re willing to stay in Iraq for 100 years?” More rambling, ending up with “I meant, 100 years AFTER we achieve victory.” How long will that take? McShame doesn’t know. Again, no follow-up, no challenging, pugnacious, “blunt, fearless” questioning from Tweety.

    And they say HRC will “say anything” to get elected. McShame will say anything, or nothing, and will never get called on it by the press.

    Tweety exemplifies the MSM’s hard-on for McShame. Poor Obama, I’m sure he thinks he has the MSM wrapped around his little finger. How sad and surprised he will be when the MSM tosses him off like yesterday’s news, and reaffirms its endless love for McShame. Obama thinks that all he has to do is intone “I opposed the war from the beginning,” but against McShame he is going to have to explain how he proposes to get us out of there. And unlike Clinton, he hasn’t really explained that yet. And unlike Clinton (who learned the lessons of “don’t ask don’t tell), he hasn’t built up the relationships with current and former military leaders to be able to begin the disengagement process credibly and efficiently.

    Returning to Tweety, McShame answers a softball lobbed by Tweety, i.e., is Obama elitist? McShame says no, but then rambles on again aimlessly about small towns and the Second Amendment.

  41. Now McShame is lamenting hardball campaign tactics. “Americans want a respectful debate.” Tweety is practically ejaculating, even though a respectful debate would bore him to tears. He is ejaculating because he thinks he is getting a scoop. “We’re getting stuff done here!”

    Tweety the peacemaker. Ugh. I’ll be back after I’m done vomiting.

  42. LGM: LOL! I can just see Tweety creaming his jeans for McShame. He’s had a tingle up his leg for him ever since the thrill of George Bush’s flightsuit padding wore off.

  43. Well, we’ll just have to wait and see whether his leg tingles more for Obama than he creams in his jeans for McShame .

    Now Tweety tells McShame that “some say” that we need to go after Iran, Quds force, blah blah blah. Not, “Why the fuck do you want to bomb bomb bomb Iran”? With this nice set-up, McShame says there is no doubt that Iran is a threat, but there are “many options” to be explored before we “get to” the bomb bomb bomb stage, and BTW, did you know Iran wants to destroy Israel?

    Foreign policy is supposed to be this guy’s strong suit. He’s rambling on like a demented homeless guy on the subway. Even Obama ought to be able to beat him in a foreign policy debate — and I don’t have a high degree of confidence in Obama’s foreign policy expertise — but of course, no matter how such a debate actually goes, the MSM will declare McShame the winner.

    McShame explains that when he is president, he will overcome the obstacles posed by the possibility of a third Middle Eastern war, he would drag Congressional leaders to the White House to make sure that they are “in on the take-off as well as the landing.” He refuses, however, to say what the “tipping point” is. McShame can’t answer. Tweety asks “you can’t or you don’t want to.” McShame says there has to be a “clear and present danger,” not just a possibility of “development.” McShame looks like he has a migraine. “There is a credibility issue,” McShame admits, “so you have to be able to say that there is a national security threat.” Well, isn’t that what Bush said in 2002-03? Tweety doesn’t hit him with this. “So that’s the answer,” he announces triumphantly, “Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be right back with John McCain!”

    He ain’t just creaming in his jeans. He has a large vibrator up his ass. And if you think I’m being unusually foul today, you have no idea how foul I can be…..

  44. Tweety says, “Now you’ve been a maverick, that’s why a lot of people like you, would you be enough of a maverick to put someone on the ticket who was pro-choice?”

    McShame: “Well, the rights of the unborn are a deeply held value, blah blah blah, please suck my dick a little longer, Tweety.”

    Why am I watching this? Pretty soon my posts are probably going to be blocked by a porn detector.

  45. “Obama? Hmmm, there seem to be a few years missing, like 1997-1999. I’m sure he just misplaced them on his messy desk. Happens all of the time.”

    Funny, considering Obama has pushed about a million times harder for open government than Clinton has. Obama’s insistence on government reform is one of the things that initially drew me to Obama over Clinton (I too, was an early Edward supporter).

    “Speaking of money, Obama is outspending Clinton by something like 2:1 in advertising.”

    Also funny. Obama has been better at raising and managing funds than Clinton. Why shouldn’t he be able to benefit from his massive grassroots support? Remember, he is going to have that same amount of advertising against McCain during the general.

  46. Tweety: The Republican Party has had a lot of incredible presidents, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan the Great Communicator, how do you see a McCain presidency.

    McCain: Thank you so much for being here, there are only sixty seconds left and I am trying to run the clock. It is a humbling experience to be the nominee of the Republican Party with predecessors like the ones you named, Teddy Roosevelt was great, he had confidence and faith in America at the start of the 20th Century. I want to be remembered as a person who had the great honor to serve this great country in difficult times, as an imperfect servant, but with honor..

    In other words, “How the hell should I know what a McCain presidency would look like, and why should I have to tell you, don’t you know I am an American hero?”

    I caught the first 20 seconds of KO before I switched to American Idol (the intellectual’s choice at 8pm), and KO was portentously announcing that Barney Franks has decreed that the person trailing in delegates as of June 3 should drop out of the race, if not sooner. Franks is a Clinton superdelegate, so KO interprets this as an acknowledgement that the end is nigh.

    I am going to cuddle up with my 14 year old and American Idol, so I am signing off for now. Cheers!

  47. riverdaughter – from the previous thread – I give in: goldman sachs is obama;s biggest contributor to the tune of half a million bucks.

  48. Wow, I’ve lived next door to Pennsy for all my life, my Mom was born and raised in Philly and the evirons, and I don’t know the answers to most of these. Guh.
    1. What do older Pennsylvanians say when they mean, “I’m going to clean my house”?

    I’m going to spank you?

    2. What do Pittsburghers call bologna?
    Spam?

    3. What is a gum band?
    a rubber band?

    4. How does one pronounce the second person plural pronoun?
    Youse.
    5. What is Blennd?
    Like Coffee Mate?
    6. What does Primanti’s in Pittsburgh put in its sandwiches?
    Miracle Whip?
    7. What is Happy Valley famous for?
    farms?
    8. Explain the complex liquor laws and where you can buy a sixpack.
    You can buy a sixpack at a bar to carry out. You can only buy liquor and wine at a State Store.
    9. Describe the difference between Amish and Mennonite.
    My Aunt lived in Quakertown for a while and her kids went to a Mennonite school (but they weren’t Mennonites). I know that Mennonites are more modern than the Amish. They drive cars and such. Doctrinally, I don’t know the difference.

    10. What is (was) the significance of William Penn’s hat in Philadelphia?
    It could be used for mixing oatmeal in.

  49. “Pennsylvania is a Commonwealth, there are three other states that are also Commonwealths. Name them.”

    Massachusetts, Virginia and Puerto Rico.

  50. Charles-

    first radio station– KDKA in Pittsburgh

    commonwealths– MA, PA, VA, KY

    capitols– Philadelphia and York

  51. Happy Valley is Nittany Lions to me. On the rest…I’m confused but convinced you folks in PA are as weird as we are in Tennessee.

    Can we have a summary post later on all the right answers?

  52. 1. Read up the house
    2.
    3. rubber band
    4. youse
    5. mix, stir
    6. cold slaw
    7. Ice cream
    8. Have State stores ; not open on Sunday
    9. Mennonites can use electricity; Amish don’t
    10. Something about no building could be higher that Penn’s hat.
    and something about some baseball curse when I building was bigger than the hat

  53. Another is:

    what’s a root

    What is a crick

  54. 7. We’re soon to be famous for packing an Obama rally with 22,000 people who were definitely planning to vote, but something came up (the Sun, I think it was) and they didn’t get around to it.

  55. shut out he lights

  56. shut out the lights…I mean

  57. oooh, I know 4! and 8! I’ve been known to do 4 after doing 8!

  58. lol, litigatormom. That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read.

  59. “…Hillary has some new proposals for keeping manufacturing in the US. One of them includes $20 Billion in plant restructuring costs to help Detroit carmakers make the transition to more fuel efficient cars. She also plans to reward companies that keep jobs from going overseas. And here’s an odd by insightful reason for it: if you don’t have an active manufacturing base, it’s a national security risk. Yeah, because you have to outsource your defense industry needs to China, for example. Not a good thing. So, she’s thinking ahead and developing policy strategically…”

    You nailed her FDRness above. She will go to work to fix things. Things are sooooooooooooooooo broken.

    ps: Obama’s bundlers….ummm…
    Don’t miss the links I found is he ever going to f up with these guys—Code Pink? but…the Washington Post covers his “war” bundles….the arrogance…of thinking nobody would cross reference his massive money take. Haha.

    You know what? I wish I could answer just one question above.
    Amish and Mennonites? I think they are two different religions — the Amish live simply and make lovely wooden furniture. Is that near ballpark?

    bologna=? hmmmm…………..?

    Geez.

    had to pay, as ever. Taxes.

    pss: States out West have laws for liquor they call “package goods” not here, you buy it anywhere…in Cailfornia…
    these States are so different, RD. But NY must be like here?

  60. Being a lifelong PA woman – the quiz is too easy!!! -but I enjoyed every question

    Here are the answers:

    1. “red up” as in red up the room-we’re having company (from ready up?)
    2. Jumbo
    3. rubber band
    4. You-uns (in my town of Washington, Pa)
    5.Lemon Blennd – the drink
    6.slaw and fries on that Primanti Bros. sandwich in Pittsburgh
    7. State College/ Penn State home
    8.sixpacks can be bought at a bar, a beer distributor for a case, nothing in the supermarket or conveniance store (tho that is changing at designated stores), nothing on Sunday, liquor from a State store
    9. Amish – no modern machines of any kind, Mennonite -some modern machines, like tractors, sometimes you see cars
    10. No building used to be able to be built in Phila taller than Wm Penn’s hat on City Hall – OK now
    11. shut the lights or shut out the lights
    12. Buchanon born here, Eisenhower lived here

  61. Oh yeah – I forgot to answer this one – the hex signs are on the barns to ward off the evil spirits

    Hey riverdaughter – ever have a klondike for a dime From Isley’s ice cream store?

  62. Wow!

    This is the funniest thread evaa.

    LGM: I had to stop what I was doing because I had to laugh so hard.

    I just had to remember my semester abroad in France, I had to go out with my then GF. We went to her friend for dinner and on the menu was something called “fondu”. That would have been fine if it wasn’t for the fact that I was supposed to go first AND I was the only black guy anywhere around.
    I think the questions thrown at me worse than yours because it was a bunch (white) snubs in ESSEC, probably France’s most prestigious b-school.

    RD: I just got thoroughly humiliated by your quiz.

    Because I hate to lose any type of quiz, I actually called a friend of mine who is from Philly but I couldn’t get him on the phone.
    Yes, I wanted to cheat, sue me.

    Why should anybody know anything about PA?

    Aren’t you guys a bunch of yahoos or something?

  63. Sigh. Everyone is having so much fun except me. I got caught up with work and almost forgot to chuck the good ol’ tax stuff in the mail. Been done for a while. SHould have sent it off as soon as done.

  64. Off topic but…has anyone seen that horrid image of Hillary morphed into McCain front-paged on Huffingto Post?

    What a whore!

  65. Sarah got them all right, with the exception of the light’s out question. The correct answer is, “Outen the light” or “close da light’.

    Congratulations! You have won, er, fame, glory and the admiration of your fellow Conflucians.

    Yup, had a Klondike. They taste better from the store. Loved Lemon Blennd as a kid.

  66. I just read that Michelle thinks coming from working class people means she cant be elitist. Can someone send her a defitnition please? Some of the biggest elitists are new money people and I should know, I went to highschool with really really rich old time money kids and the newbie wealthy (i was a scholarship kid) and lemme tell you, new money is waay nastier. Not all, but in comparison.

    One outcome of the Obama clinginin bruhaha is that it has made me look at my own thoughts about certain parts of the country. I think I have bought inot some stereotypes without having first hand knowledge. Course, I aint running for President.

    RD – I have enjoyed your blog so much today. I hope you post a tip jar.

  67. Charles: I promise to read your entire story but I had to stop at the phrase “vast tracts of land”. For some reason, the image of a medieval wedding and a real Brunhilda of a bride just popped into my mind. I’m sure it’s just me.
    “She’s got vahhst traahcts of lahnd”
    must be the mead

  68. Amish were depicted in the movie “Witness!”
    geez. All I can think is that Hillary can over the whole US–regionalism or no.

    Klondikes (ice cream sandwiches) are sold here…ps: That Hillary/McCain photoshopped image was bad.
    When A. H. lived here, her huz was “outed” –totally gay but who cares?

    Mimi, she is a bad ‘un—nonfeminist…maybe it was her huz at the time? how embarrassing for her, then–leads to her bitchiness now?

  69. Actually, when I read “vast tracts of land,” I thought of Woody Allen’s masterpiece, “Love and Death.” At one point, an old man tells Woody, “I bought a little piece of land.” He holds up his hand to show that he is holding a clump of earth. “And I finally built a little house.,” he says as he places a Monopoly house on the clump of earth.

  70. The Amish are a 17th century breakaway from the Swiss-German Mennonite Anabaptists. Amman and his followers thought the church should reform to the stricter standards of the low county Anabaptists. Mostly that meant ferociously strict shunning and more frequent communion.
    The major outward differences today are
    Amish – most shun to some degree or other, most home church
    Mennonite – excommunication (not the same as shunning) and church buildings.
    But there are more subtle and substantial doctrinal differences too.
    There’s also language variations.

    The question of modernity varies from place to place and group to group. Some Old Order Mennonites are more “separate from the world” than say, some Beachy Amish or New Order Amish so depending on electricty or car use to tell you who’s who isn’t a sure bet.

  71. LGM: I was thinking more along the lines of brave Sir Robin and the wedding rescue skit from the Holy Grail

  72. Riverdaughter,

    May I ask that you consider a great new blog by Hillary Suppoters for inclusion on your blogroll??

    http://hillarysvoice.reclusiveleftist.com/

    It’s the unofficial blog of the group Hillary’s Voice, and they are a passionate bunch.

    Thanks.

  73. […] So I’d really like to get back to the issues, and hope the candidates do so in a lively debate this evening on ABC. Riverdaughter’s doing just that, in her tax day post about Hillary’s new proposals for keeping manufacturing in the US. […]

  74. Not that I’m claiming you are disenfranchising the eastern half of the state or anything 🙂 … but *some* of your answers are only correct *some* of the time. I refer you to The Coal Speak Dictionary. See particularly “Straighten The House” “Outen the Light” and “Youse” (which is never younz). We Appalachians get no respect!

    http://www.coalregion.com/speak/speakH.htm

    This was fun – brought back memories. Thanks

  75. !! I sometimes say Close the Lights. I got it from my mom. Who learned English as a 2nd language. She spoke Portuguese until she went to school.

    So it must be common-ish

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