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The Wright Apology? — Wrong

Reading about Obama’s visit to The View yesterday this quote stood out:

Chicago Sun-Times
Obama: Wright repented, so he stayed:

Obama discussed his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright on ABC’s ”The View,” which was taped Thursday and aired Friday.

”Had the reverend not retired and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn’t have felt comfortable staying there at the church,” Obama said.

Oh, Really? Wright “acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people”? How did I miss that?

But silly me, I forgot the most basic rule of logic: How to evaluate the AND condition. The title of this article AND the above quote (which has been posted all over the place since yesterday) led me to believe that I somehow missed Wright’s apology.  In spite of the title, the story continues with the truth:

Obama spokesman Bill Burton said the senator’s remarks did not imply that Wright has expressed misgivings about his statements. ”Sen. Obama was clearly saying that were Rev. Wright not retiring, he would need to be assured that Wright understood why what he had said had deeply offended people and mischaracterized the greatness of this country,” Burton said.

See?  If Wright hadn’t retired, then Senator Obama would have required an apology.

Are these people serious?  Do they really think Obama clearly said that? Did you?

42 Responses

  1. I make that out to be two bald faced lies from Obama: first, implying that Wright had apologized and, second, denying that the implication had been drawn. They are really too clever, aren’t they? I wouldn’t believe a word Obama says anymore than I give credibility to anything that comes out of Bush’s mouth.

  2. Ah, but reality — BO distanced himself from the denial — it’s his spokesman who had to take the fall for that.

    I’m sick of presidential parcing and the carefully nuanced statements.

    And I’m REALLY angry at myself for slipping so quickly away from my goal of positive-only posts.

  3. Gabriele Droz has Anna Shane’s brilliant analysis of the race in general and Obama’s strategy in particular:

    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15138

  4. where is the freaking outrage of the press in the light of this new lie??

  5. ghost2, I don’t know. Even in the articles that discuss it, there is no outrage. I guess it’s for us to generate. (spread the word)

  6. former Pennsylvania governor Robert P. Casey Sr., fought publicly against Bill Clinton after being denied a chance to speak at the 1992 Democratic National Convention. Casey’s son, Sen. Robert P. Casey Jr., endorsed Sen. Barack Obama yesterday.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/28/AR2008032803409_pf.html

    Another George Herbert Hoover Bush daddy complex? the other one got us into Iraq….

  7. The NEVER defensive James Carville….

    loyalty is a cardinal virtue. Nowhere in the world is loyalty so little revered and tittle-tattle so greatly venerated as in Washington. I was a little-known political consultant until Bill Clinton made me. When he came upon hard times, I felt it my duty — whatever my personal misgivings — to stick by him. At the very least, I would have stayed silent. And maybe that’s my problem with what Bill Richardson did. Silence on his part would have spoken loudly enough.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/28/AR2008032802826_pf.html

  8. I liked this quote from James Carville:

    campaigning prepares you for governing. It prepares you to get hit, stand strong and, if necessary, hit back. I’ve worked on enough campaigns to know that the most aggrieved candidate rarely emerges victorious

  9. (nodding) “the most aggrieved candidate rarely emerges victorious”

    And she’s far from appearing aggrieved, don’t you think?

  10. Anyone with a brain knows that he lied on The View. The Obamaphiles know this too but they are so in love with their candidate that they are willing to overlook anything dealing with Rev. Wright. Hopefully the tepid Obama supporters are seeing right through this and switch their support to Hillary, or hell even to McCain. Obama is one of the biggest liars I’ve seen in a long time and if the media actually did their job and focused more on his lies instead of the one time Hillary pads her foreign policy experience in Bosnia, maybe more Americans would see him for the Chi-town thug he really is.

  11. Yes, he lied – that second part was pulled directly out of his ass. Does the media care? Someone want to post it at myDD..?

  12. This must be a calculated move, and the preparation was making such a big deal about Hillary’s Bosnia memory.

    Weak as it was, they must have been waiting for months for something Hillary said that they could call a lie, which would then be an ounce of prevention against harm for his subsequently being called a liar, for weaseling in and around his positions.

    Some of his less dumb supporters would say, he’s lying, and then of his craftier supporters would say, but look how Hillary lied about Bosnia.

    And this is democracy.

  13. The wording, of course, is curious, at best… buyt perhaps what’s most telling is that what’s being suggested is that Obama’s people said “resign… or apologize” and Wright picked reign. That seems the clearest answer yet on the where Wright – still – comes down on the things he said. Credits to him, I think, for refusing to be PC and issue an “apology” he didn’t believe.

  14. http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=407
    Obama Weathers the Wright Storm, Clinton Faces Credibility Problem
    More than eight-in-ten supporters of Obama (84%) who have heard about the controversy over Wright’s sermons say he has done an excellent or good job of dealing with the situation.
    Reactions from Clinton supporters, and Republicans, are on balance negative; however, 43% of Clinton voters and a third of Republican voters who have heard about the affair express positive opinions about Obama’s handling of the situation.

    Weathered the storm?
    Someone at Pew is a plant for the Chicago Messiah. As taylormarsh points out, that means that 57% of Hillary supporters are appalled!!!! and are 33% of Republicans, who BO is mentioning ever more frequently as his ace in the hole.
    And they can’t win without us Dems…..

  15. “I wrote this down so I wouldn’t forget,” said the nervous young man, his hand shaking as he read aloud. “When I think of Hillary Clinton, I can’t help but think of Queen Esther. You were brought to this position to make a difference and to make a change and just like Queen Esther who took a stand and did what was right for the Jews, I believe you will do what’s right for America.” The man began his statement by saying he is a “devout Christian” and “one who reads his Bible daily.”
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/29/politics/fromtheroad/printable3979130.shtml

  16. I don’t understand how Obama could have been a member of Wright’s church for decades when he is half-white and was raised by whites (and his Indonesian stepfather during his mother’s four-year marriage to him). I think that Obama’s anger should be directed at his Kenyan father who was already married with children when he arrived at the University of Hawaii and encountered a naive 18-year-old anthropology student who was intrigued by different cultures. After a few years, Obama’s father moved on, leaving a two-year-old fatherless, except for his grandfather, whose photo resembles Teddy Kennedy.

    The members of Wright’s church who have a reason to be negative towards whites are poorer and live in segregated communities. They didn’t have the advantages of affirmative action to enter elite prep schools and colleges with scholarships, nor the advantage of Obama’s middle-class white background.

    I find this association with Wright’s church indicative of his heart more than his judgment, and feel the same about Obama’s patron Rezko. Why anyone who worked in the South Side of Chicago would accept Rezko’s check for $1000 when one’s mostly poor black constituents in Rezko’s building were going without heat during a Chicago winter because Rezko was short of funds (and this was publicized) is beyond me.

    I wonder if Obama is simply in this for himself. He seems very narcissistic. Is there any evidence that he worked hard to provide for his district?

  17. CB:

    This is not even true:

    The members of Wright’s church who have a reason to be negative towards whites are poorer and live in segregated communities. They didn’t have the advantages of affirmative action to enter elite prep schools and colleges with scholarships, nor the advantage of Obama’s middle-class white background.

    Rev Wright has a well of family and went to a great school. He, just like Barack and Michelle, has no good reason to be resentful.

  18. Blatant lie. But who will take it on? No one. Cause what he says never means anything, blather.

  19. CB:

    Check this letter. It is from a friend of that crackpot Marty Peretz. The guy who wrote the letter seems to know Rev Wright’s background rather well.

    OBAMA’S PASTOR RAISED IN PRIVILEGE, NOT POVERTY

    How do I know?

    It happens that, as a Philadelphian, I attended Central High School – the same public school Jeremiah Wright attended from 1955 to 1959. He could have gone to an integrated neighborhood school, but he chose to go to Central, a virtually all-white school. Central is the second oldest public high school in the country, which attracts the most serious academic students in the city. The school then was about 80% Jewish and 95% white. The African-American students, like all the others, were there on merit. Generally speaking, we came from lower/middle class backgrounds. Many of our parents had not received a formal education and we tended to live in row houses. In short, economically, we were roughly on par.

    I attended Central a few years after Rev. Wright, so I did not know him personally. But I knew of him and I know where he used to live – in a tree-lined neighborhood of large stone houses in the Germantown section of Philadelphia. This is a lovely neighborhood to this day. Moreover, Rev. Wright’s father was a prominent pastor and his mother was a teacher and later vice-principal and disciplinarian of the Philadelphia High School for Girls, also a distinguished academic high school. Two of my acquaintances remember her as an intimidating and strict disciplinarian and excellent math teacher. In short, Rev. Wright had a comfortable upper-middle class upbringing. It was hardly the scene of poverty and indignity suggested by Senator Obama to explain what he calls Wright’s anger and what I describe as his hatred.

    In recent days, we have seen clips of several of Rev. Wright’s sermons, showing him declaring “G-d Damn America,” blaming America for intentionally creating the drug problem, for creating the AIDS virus, for supporting Israeli “state terrorism against Palestinians,” for being responsible for causing 9-11, for being white supremacist and racist and for intentionally keeping people in poverty.

    We have also learned that, last year, Rev. Wright’s Church honored with a lifetime achievement award Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan, who has said that “Judaism is a gutter religion,” that “Hitler was a very great man” and that “white people are potential humans, they haven’t evolved yet.” In fact, Rev. Wright accompanied Farrakhan in the 1980s on a visit to Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya, which was then illegal under U.S. law. Nevertheless, the Church and Wright’s successor as pastor, Rev. Otis Moss III, have issued a statement defending and praising Wright, while completely ignoring Wright’s horrific statements.

    Morton A. Klein is National President of the Zionist Organization of America.

  20. I still want to hear Obama explain what the comments were that he did hear, since he didn’t hear the ones in the videos.

    When he heard them would be nice too.

  21. MABlue–I do believe that poor black members of Trinity might be more inclined to fall into line with Wright, but can’t comprehend why Obama would beso enthralled since he has had much more opportunity to get a first-rate opportunity than I have as a middle-class white woman, assuming he got admitted and received scholarships based on his identification as black.

    The IRS is investigating the church’s tax free status (or so I read). Any news on this front?

    Also, it seems to take Obama 17-to -20 years to realize he made errors in judgment regarding Wright and Rezko. Even Bush is more politically savvy than that.

  22. Early results tallied by The Associated Press showed that Clinton had 301 delegates, or 60 percent, compared to Obama’s 202 delegates, or 40 percent. That’s out of about 7,300 delegates expected to be selected at about 280 county and senate district meetings across the state Saturday.
    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYJaQiRyrP6rD0dGdWZKNbT3-S5gD8VNBQCG0

    Storm weathered? Wright.

  23. “I do want to make sure, to the extent that I can control it, that we show some restraint and we are measured in how we present the contrast between myself and Senator Clinton,” Obama said at a press conference here. “We’ve been very careful throughout this campaign not to say things that could be used as ammunition for the Republicans if Senator Clinton were the nominee.”

    Obama admitted that his surrogates and those of Clinton are not “blameless” in their attacks on each other. He said that calls from his supporters, such Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., for Clinton’s withdrawal from the race stem from “irritation.”
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/29/politics/fromtheroad/entry3979257.shtml

  24. prohillary! That AP story — At face value, that’s pretty earth-shattering news, isn’t it? But, it’s so dryly written, it’s hard to tell. I’m off to find more. Thanks for sharing it!

  25. How about the cbsnews one!!!?? He is even considering that she might be the nominee!!! As his mother would say, That’s real progress, buster!

    ”We just need to relax and let this happen. Nobody’s talking about wrecking the party,” Clinton said. ”Everywhere I go, all these working people say, ‘Don’t you dare let her drop out. Don’t listen to those people in Washington, they don’t represent us.”’

    Clinton was responding to a statement by Sen. Patrick Leahy
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Bill-Clinton.html

  26. Is he saying that she might be the nominee? I read it that he thought she might win Pennsylvania??

    I’m trying to find more information about the Texas numbers. A 60/40 win for Hillary in Texas would be a huge turnaround. Is that REALLY what the AP story says? Or am I totally misreading it. Which would be more than possible.

  27. Filed at 3:28 p.m. ET

    RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, N.C. (AP) — Former Sen. John Edwards, in his first public speech since dropping his White House bid two months ago, praised Democratic rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama on Saturday, but declined to endorse either candidate.
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Edwards.html

  28. I can’t find anything about the texas numbers either. AP has three stories, and in each she is going up. But the two youthful anecdotes are not as encouraging….just exuberant!

  29. katiebird– Burnt Orange is reporting the TX results as they come in.
    http://www.burntorangereport.com/

  30. Thanks bostonboomer, I just realized that these number are JUST coming in. It’s the first 500 or so of 7,000 delegate results. There are a lot not yet reported.

  31. They are talking about the TX mess at Talkleft. I don’t understand what is happening at all.

  32. Katiebird–

    Apparently the whole thing is one big chaotic mess.

  33. It sounds like it’s been going on all day and not anywhere near over??

  34. from the comment on the CBS stroy:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/29/politics/fromtheroad/entry3979130.shtml?source=search_story

    Has anyone noticed, the Senators endorsing Obama (Daschle,Richardson, Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, Casey Jr., Leahy,McCaskill etal are Roman Catholic? The Catholic bishops voter guide says you can””t support racism but it””s allright to support sexism.

  35. They’ll never get me to vote for this lying weasel.

    And the Casey endorsement moots the argument, “but Roe V Wade!”

    Nope, as the SNL Dana Carvey caricature of Bush I said when Clinton defeated him, “na-gonna-dewit, nagada, nagada!” (not gonna vote for him).

    I loved 1992.

  36. clinton needs to lose with class, support the party and help defeat war-mongering McCain

    http://www.mediamyopic.wordpress.com

  37. Kid A Jay,

    If Clinton loses, she will lose with class. She is showing how persistent she is, which is a great quality for someone who runs for public office. As the most powerful person in the Senate, she is more than impressive.

    When Obama first ran for elected office, he hired a Harvard “election official” to challenge the nomination papers of those (all African-American Dems) running against him, which enabled him to run unopposed.

    He ran for Congress soon after, but Bobby Rush, co-founder of the Illinois Black Panther party, portrayed Obama as “elitist” and didn’t lose his seat.

    When Obama ran for U.S. Senator, his opposition imploded (both Dem and Republican wives accused their former husbands of sexual improprieties), and for weeks Obama ran unchallenged, until the kooky black Republican Alan Keyes was found. (He said such stupid things as “Even Jesus wouldn’t vote for Obama.”)

    This is the first time Obama has had any real competition. Being president won’t be a cake walk, so being tested in an election is a good thing. If the tables were turned and the nomination still relatively close–as it is now– would you ask Obama to quit? If he did, what would you think of him? I’ve always admired persistent people, and Hillary Clinton is nothing if not a hard working no quitter. Just the kind of character we need in a president!

    Remember that the caucus states are basically 2 percent of the potential voters. Obama emphasized caucus states (while the Clinton campaign did not), but we don’t know how these states will perform in the general election.

    Most of the Southern states that are majority AA in the Dem party go Republican because the majority of whites have switched after Reagan made it clear that Southern with Dems had a “conservative” home in the Republican party.

    The key states are ones with big electoral votes, such as Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania (and California) that are needed to win.

  38. @Kid A Jay: Obama needs to win. Period. If he could manage to do that with class, I’d be impressed.

  39. “And the notion that somehow it’s cute or amusing, or a useful diversion, I think, is something that all of us have to recognize is just not the case. We all have First Amendment rights. And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids,”

  40. Obama made this statement in response to Don Imus making the remark, “nappy headed hos.” Obama’s response to Don Imus was reported by ABC News on April 11, 2007. You can read more on my blog.

  41. Rev. Wright is not Obama’s only moral compass. Obama also specifically claimed Father Michael Pfleger in a Chicago Sun -Times interview with Falsani. Pfleger is also a Farrakhan fan. Pfleger featured Farrakahn on the later’s birthday. There is video available on the web for that.

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