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Good Morning. Everyone ready for another day in the trenches? Here’s what the rest of the world has been up to while you wasted your time sleeping:

  • Phil Bredesen, Governor of Tennessee, has a plan to settle the superdelegate count by early June. This plan is to have a pre-convention just for the Supers so they can pick a candidate before the actual convention in August. His reasoning is that it would be sooo much better for the party if we got this out of the way before August so we could get on with the business of crushing McCain. He can’t help it that he’s been duped to stupidity by Obamamania, bless his heart. Much to our surprise, this is a plan that Obama thinks is “interesting” and “would probably be the best way to insure that at least there’s a couple of months before the convention” for the party to unite. I call it a complete non-starter and just another variation on the “Why Won’t That Stupid Bitch Quit?” (WWTSBQ) idea that’s been floated for some time now. (This one may be donation worthy. We must consult Lambert) A Superdelegate convention would just lock in the SDs for whoever is the delegate leader, I suspect, because it would be haunted by zombie Obamaphiles who would threaten to eat the SD’s if they don’t comply with their noisy demands. And that would be risky because if Obama flames before August, it would be very difficult to reverse locked in pledges and nominate Hillary instead. Nice try guys but we’re not stupid.
  • Debbie Wasserman Schultz is giving the Big Boyz fits in Florida because she apparently isn’t lifting a finger to help Democratic challengers to 3 Republican congressional districts. Yep, she’s on some kind of Red to Blue leadership team but she’s like, not leading. And it looks like the Democrats could lose some pick-up opportunities in Florida. In FLORIDA! Hmmm, Florida, Florida, where have I heard that word before? Oh yeah! That’s the state whose 1.7 MILLION voters were dissed by Howard Dean and Barack Obama. Those 1.7 MILLION voters votes will not count at DNC convention unless they don’t put Hillary ahead. Who could have predicted that Debbie Wasserman Schultz would be capable of some passive-aggressive Hardball? That is not allowed from a Hillary supporter. Only Obama supporters are allowed to do that. Still, it’s entertaining to see the Big Boyz get their knickers in a twist of rage because Debbie isn’t doing their bidding and saving the Congress for the Democrats. The NERVE of some women. Can’t she see there is a higher purpose at stake here??? (You guys really have *no* idea why Debbie Wasserman-Schultz from FLORIDA is behaving irrationally? It makes no sense whatsoever? Holy smokes!, Even Matt Stoller and KOS have taken note. How unusual it is for them to even acknowledge Floridians. Well, I guess she got your attention, didn’t she?
    Mission accomplished.)
  • Jeralyn at TalkLeft had some interesting things to say about Rush Limbaugh getting Republicans in PA to switch parties to vote for Hillary Clinton in the PA primary. Look, I don’t know what Rush is up to. All I know is that there are a lot of people in PA who are fed up with the Republican party and don’t want to vote for McCain. Many of them don’t need a whole lot of pushing to switch parties. And there’s nothing that says that a person can’t change their party affiliation if they get a virtual dope slap after eight years of an idiot in the White House, endless war, higher prices for everything, the country on the verge of an economic collapse and a missing or absent social safety net which they once railed against but suddenly discovered they needed after all. Rush is encouraging voters to switch, Obama is encouraging voters to register as Democrats, *Hillary* is encouraging voters to register as Democrats. Let’s give Pennsylvanians the benefit of a doubt here. They are willing to travel outside of their comfort zones for a variety of reasons. In a few weeks, they will stand before that panel and see two names there and will vote for the candidate of their choice for the same reasons that lifelong Democrats have for years. They want a better candidate, a better president. And if that person just happens to belong to the screwed up party who can’t get its $@#% together, then it’s GOT to be bad on the Republican side.
  • Following up on the race-baiting chase, Sean Wilentz has a second article in The New Republic on how the Obama campaign is screaming “racist!” at every chance they get. It’s a couple weeks old, this article, but lucky for us, Ronkseattle is putting together a compilation (beta release) of Obama’s greatest racist! accusations. Dayum!, Ron, you’ve been busy. You’ve chronicled 88 instances? Well, what do you expect from a “typical white person”? Er, you are white, aren’t you Ron? It’s so hard to tell these days. Everyone looks like little black pixels to me anymore.
  • One more thing: My site cafeteria had a stack something called Edible New Jersey that it was giving away for free. So, I picked it up and was pleasantly surprised. It’s a quarterly magazine that features the food grown locally by season and recipes to go with them. It’s well written and timely and goes together well with Michael Chiarello’s Seasons in the Wine Country cookbook. But, wait! There’s more. There is a whole Edible Community with similar periodicals for different regions and even Canada. So you too can find locally grown foods and boost your local economy while cutting back on energy costs. (If you feel so inclined. I notice they are no fans of Hillary Clinton but that’s OK. The idea is a very good one and we can’t afford to be purists this year.)

Have at it, guys!

26 Responses

  1. I haven’t seen anything on any Hillary blogs other that No Quarter any mention of an Obama Advisor calling Bill Clinton worse than McCarthy and saying he is a disgrace and this will be a worse stain than that on Monica’s blue dress.

    “This” of course was the fact that he asked for more decency in the GE campaign betwenns Hillary and McCain. SInce he didn’t give Obama a shout out, that’s the same as questioning Obama’s patriotism.

    Later an Obama spokes person said Obama didn’t agree with his advisor. o apology from Obama and no firing of the advisor, thought he did apologise after having trashed the most popular president in recent decades.

  2. Good Morning, Riverdaughter! It sounded like you had a GREAT weekend!

    apishapa, My family and I saw a clip on CNN of McPeak using the McCarthy word as Obama stood by with folded arms looking weird. Everyone was drawn to the strangeness of his body-language.

    I’ve been looking for a clip so I could post about it. But have only seen clips without the actual McCarthy word.

  3. Katiebird- I think that is his ‘Jack Kennedy’ impersonation. Caroline and Teddy showed him how to it and now he can’t seem to stop!! Don’t you think it makes him look Presidential?

  4. To be fair to Obama, Ronks timeline is really a terrific compilation of ALL the cut and thrust between both campaigns, and all the more valuable for that…

  5. Forgot to say: So, let’s not frame it as 88 incidents of false charges of racism by Obama. We’ve got more than enough to make the case without going over the top.

    Anyone see this rec’d diary from The Obama 527 Formerly Known As Daily Kos? Heck, if these guys think it would have been great if the Republicans had succeeded in impeaching Clinton, no wonder they don’t like Wilentz.

    Now that the Kos people really are all only talking to themselves, just like they wanted, they’re ascending into bizarre realms of surreallity worthy of Freeperdom. Hey Mom! Bring me more Cheetohs!

  6. The tradeoff facing Democrats is that Clinton’s economic advisers probably have more experience dealing directly with financial markets, but they’re also the people who helped deregulate Wall Street in the 1990s, laying the groundwork for some of our current problems. Most of Obama’s advisers aren’t as tainted by that experience.

    But he’s collected roughly as much Wall Street money as she has. And, from what I hear anecdotally,* he seems to do better among hot shot hedge-fund and private-equity fund managers, who can be even more averse to financial-market regulation than the older, stodgier investment banker types who favor Hillary. So, like Krugman, I don’t see any real advantage for Obama on this issue.
    –Noam Scheiber

  7. Note – The race-baitbucket chronology is still a work in progress – consider today’s version a beta release.

    Please advise in comments to that post re omissions, corrections, broken links, more definitive or more stable links, etc.

  8. “Clinton would probably have an upper hand,” said Jay Howser, who was campaign manager for Rep. Brad Ellsworth in 2006 and who is not aligned with either presidential campaign. “Although there’s probably a heavy base of African American support for Obama in Indianapolis, it’s a state that responds well to Clinton.” Clinton’s alliance with Bayh, son of Indiana legend Birch Bayh, is already paying off.

  9. I found this in a comment on Corrente


    NPR did a story on Obama’s 2002 anti-Iraq War speech. Apparently it wasn’t even mentioned in the newspapers at the time and there’s no video of it, since he was just an obscure state senator. Jesse Jackson was the star of the show.

  10. Wasserman Schultz is a co-chair of the party’s Red to Blue program which raises money and mentors top candidates, and the letter was intended to tamp down any suggestion that the national party won’t be strongly backing the three challengers.

    “We are proud of what you have achieved in this early stage and look forward to working with you to meet the critical changes ahead,” said the letter, which is Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee stationary. In addition to Pelosi, signers included Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Majority Whip James Clyburn, Democratic Caucus Chair Rahm Emanuel, and DCCC Chair Chris Van Hollen.

    Meek said neither he nor Wasserman Schultz have sought to dissuade the three candidates from running and he called them “excellent candidates that have a good chance at winning.” He said both he and Wasserman Schultz still will raise money for Democratic candidates nationwide. Wasserman Schultz, who has told the party that another member of Congress should coordinate the local races, said Friday she encouraged the Democratic leadership team to send out the letter.

  11. At Progressive Democrats for America, Rep. Jim McGovern has posted his reasons for supporting Hillary for Prez.


    There is going to be a conference call tomorrow night at 8PM for the PDA/Clinton Campaign team. I’m thinking of trying to get on the call. Does anyone think it would be useful to us here to know what they are talking about? I don’t have any experience with these conf. calls.

  12. From the WaPo article prohillary linked to, it looks like the Obama campaign is ceding PA, KY, and WV. However, they will make a go for Indiana. The article, though, doesn’t mention how close its gotten in NC; Obama has a statistically insignificant 1 point lead in the latest North Carolina based PPP poll.

    BTW, what is the expected turnout for PA? I just read that PA went over 4 million registered Dems in PA but I don’t know what the the turnout number will be.

  13. RonK–

    Have you been following the work that eriposte is doing over at Left Coaster to document what he calls the “swiftbaiting” of Hillary? If not, you might find more information for your timeline there.

  14. WS,

    I wonder when someone is going to do a poll in Indiana. I can’t wait to see the results.

  15. WS: From my personal anecdotal evidence, Pennsylvanians are VERY motivated. They are consuming news in news junky quantities. Even the undecideds I talked to yesterday seemed engaged. They seemed to be saying, “So, what’s it worth to you?” I don’t know how they’ll feel three weeks from now after they’ve gotten three dozen calls from each campaign and enough flyers in their mailboxes to shred and throw a ticker tape parade in Manhattan.
    They *know* they are important and they also know that if there was ever a state that could decide this, that has a one of the best economic, ethnic, generational, industrial-high-tech-rural demographics, it would have to be Pennsylvania. I think we are in good hands and the turnout will be very high.

  16. Will Rush Limbaugh Be Indicted for Voter Fraud?
    By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet
    Posted on March 21, 2008

    As the board of election in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, where Cleveland is located, launches an investigation into illegal crossover voting in the state’s 2008 presidential primary, a big open question remains unanswered: Will county officials go after the ringleaders of apparently illegal electioneering where thousands of Republican voters swore — under penalty of law — allegiance to the Democratic Party in order to vote for Hillary Clinton? …. What Limbaugh encouraged Republican voters to do in Ohio was a fifth-degree felony in that state, punishable with a $2,500 fine and six to 12 months in jail. That is because in order to change party affiliation in Ohio, voters have to fill out a form swearing allegiance to that party’s principles “under penalty of election falsification.”

  17. when Hillary Clinton reminded New Hampshire voters in January that there would have been no Civil Rights Act without President Johnson, much of the media (including the Times’ editorial page) and some Obama supporters accused her of making a vile racial slight. This was more than a stretch, and it did Obama no favors, for it introduced a virus of complaint into the campaign that replicated quickly and is nearly impossible to kill.

    W, do you have a URL for the PPP surveys??? Can’t seem to find them….

  18. Its clear that Obama has been the biggest beneficiary of GOP voting thus far. In fact, early on that was the strategy. Limbaugh is only trying to taint Hillary with this effort. I doubt it will be effective.

  19. Volunteering in Pennsylvania…

    I just heard from Samantha, volunteer coordinator in PA.

    I had told her I would go where the greatest need was and she is suggesting that the Reading office needs help., so if any of you are planning on going to PA to volunteer, you might want to head that way.

  20. I am finding it bizarre and almost farcical that after setting up the primary calendar, the Democratic leadership doesn’t want the remaining primaries to have any meaning. If anyone ever wondered why the Democrats were so good at losing, this primary season shows once again that the Democratic leadership are not willing to stand behind their principles. It is demeaning to the voters in PA, WV, Indiana, NC, etc. to want to neutralize their voices in this election process. FL and MI are another story.

    Instead of trying to get Senator Clinton to quit, the Democratic talking heads should be applauding the process and encouraging her and Obama to continue debating and discussing the issues.

  21. ProHillary: If they indict Rush Limbaugh, they should also indict KOS for encouraging Michigan cross-overs to vote for Romney.

    Veetee, it’s called the 38 state strategy ;-).

  22. New PPP poll in North Carolina poll has Obama up by 21 points, a huge change from last week. Thats such a wild swing and I wonder if it will change next week leading up to the primary.

    I just checked out the demographics of Indianapolis/Marion County and it has an African American population at 25% but there are also lots of working class whites there too. MyDD has a good blog post on Indiana:


  23. prohillary — PPP survey roster.

    For almost all polling outfits, see

  24. The Limbaugh thing reminds me of when the ever-more-frightening-as-she-approaches-Botox-territory Ann Coulter said that if McCain got nominated, she’d vote for Hillary. I shook my head on that one and thought, “Who the hell could be stupid enough to fall for that one?”

    That was before I read a foamy rant from an Obama fan on my flist with enough exclamation marks to paper the Washington Monument about HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW TO KNOW THAT HILLARY CLINTON IS EEEEEEVILLLL EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVILLLL AND MUST BE STOPPED?!?!?!?!?

    Some people will, apparently, fall for anything.

  25. <iDebbie Wasserman Schultz is giving the Big Boyz fits in Florida because she apparently isn’t lifting a finger to help Democratic challengers to 3 Republican congressional districts.

    HAH! (Tweety imitation) Maybe a message is being sent to the DNC about how there is payback for NOT counting the FL primary or not getting behind a do-over.

    Payback is a bitch!

  26. Earl: Yep, that was my first impression but it went totally over the Big Boyz heads. Too funny. Well, that ought to put the “women will just fall into line after we nominate Obama” theory to rest.

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