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Obama needs to be The Decider on Florida

The timing of a new Florida primary needs to be settled in the next couple of days:

Another problem is that the state needs 90 days to prepare for a primary once the governor and legislature have signed off on a new election. That approval has not come, and any new primary would have to be held before June 10 to comply with DNC rules.

June 10, however, is 93 days away, and there is no immediate compromise on a statewide election in sight.

Here is the message from the Clinton campaign to Obama’s Campaign:

David Plouffe
P.O. Box 8102
Obama for America
Chicago, Illinois 60680

Dear David:
The 2008 primary campaign has been a spirited contest that has resulted in record voter turnout. Both of our candidates can proudly boast of bringing new people into the process and energizing our Democratic Party.

With the campaign now entering the final phase of the nominating contest, it is vital that both of our campaigns come together to ensure that the delegations from Florida and Michigan be seated to reflect the will of the voters.

In Florida and Michigan, nearly 2.5 million Americans made their voices heard and participated in primary elections. We think the results of those primaries were fair and should be honored.

Over the last few weeks, there has been much discussion about how to ensure that the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated. We think there are two options: Either honor the results or hold new primary elections.

To that end, we are in active consultation with all of our supporters in Florida, including Members of Congress. In Michigan, we are in active consultation with the committee appointed by Governor Granholm.

We hope that your campaign will join us in our efforts to ensure that these votes are counted.


Maggie Williams
Campaign Manager

It’s time for Obama to stop foisting the problem onto the DNC in the hopes of running out the clock. Once the window of opportunity to get a new primary in Florida is closed, there will only be one option: seating the delegation as is. Nothing else will be tolerated. The voters of Florida deserve better and so do the voters of NY, NJ, CA, MA, OH, TX and AZ who are waiting for Obama to be a leader. If he doesn’t seat the delegation representing 1.7 M Florida voters who knew damn well what they were doing, then he will doom the party in November and doesn’t deserve to be president.

Make a decision, Barack.

Update: Big Tent Democrat at TalkLeft posted this about how the Obama campaign is going to ask the DOJ to intervene on the disposition of the Florida primary redo. Do I have to tell anyone that this is the stupidest f%^&ing thing Dean, Brazile and Obama could possibly do? Didn’t they learn anything from the US Supreme Court decision that went contrary to their attempt to count the votes in Florida in 2000? Have they forgottent the disaster that followed from that election catastrophe? I guess not. And this is the BUSH Department of Justice. You know, the one that loaded the civil rights and voting rights divisions with friends of Monica Goodling.

Obama can’t possibly win it now. No frickin’ way.

One more thing: Taylor Marsh summarizes the Florida debacle and it’s consequences eloquently:

Obama, coming off a huge win in South Carolina, with Clinton getting reams of bad publicity at the time, also ran million dollars worth of cable advertisement in Florida. He and Clinton were on the Florida ballot. As I’ve said before on Michigan, Obama chose to take his name off to genuflect to Iowa and New Hampshire. Now Obama wants an even split in Florida, while simultaneously throwing a wrench into a revote. This is about keeping voters from having their votes counted, because Obama is afraid of giving Clinton the advantage


26 Responses

  1. BTD on Talkleft is reporting that the Obama camp may ask the DOJ to review the procedures for the FLA re-vote.

    Stalling, much?

  2. What is it that frightens Camp Obama so much? The will of the people?

  3. JEEZus! Why is he going down this road? He is going to end up being the most hated Democratic candidate in history at this rate.
    Kudos for the Clinton campaign that seems to not be losing its mind throughout all of this turmoil.

  4. I don’t know how the DOJ could have any jurisdiction over a private event run by a political party. Maybe we’ll need to re-evaluate all those caucuses then? Especially the one in TX where some people got two votes. Whoever thought this man would be able to completely destroy our Party and doom us to Republican rule for four more years? I never would have believed it.

  5. Not only are they stalling, but they are insinuating that the new , mail-in primary would somehow be in violation of the voting rights act. Isn’t that the Obama talking point that Sharpton was peddling last week? I am so sad.

  6. The last thing Barack wants at this point is another (as in second) win in FL by Hillary (even if the margins are smaller). It goes against the whole narrative that he is the chosen one. Just stop and think how his inevitability mantra got reexamined after OH. No way, Jose, his campaign wants a repeat of that, following PA…..Yet he is stuck because of the whole FL kerfuffle in 2000… where is Rev Jackson these days?

  7. UpstateNY– I do not think that Clinton’s margins would be smaller. Edwards is no longer on the ballot ( and I think he took votes from Clinton), and the voters in Florida will be angry at Obama especially if he continues to fight the re-vote. That is why Obama is trying to stop the re-vote. A mail in election would also probably have a higher turnout, so even if Clinton’s percentage did not go up, she would be able to proportionately increase her popular vote total.

  8. The Great Orange, via Huff Po, is reporting that Keith Olbermann is going to do a Special Comment tonight on the Clinton campaign, supposedly relating to the campaigns refusal to fire Geraldine Ferraro. This, the diary at Orange reports portentously, is the first of Olbermann’s Special Comments that will “take aim directly at a Democrat.” Olbermann apparently mentioned this yesterday on the air, which I missed as I was too busy watching American Idol with my 14 year old. I will be watching AI again today, I guess. I don’t need the Spitzer coverage that badly.

    I do think that Ferraro’s comments were unfortunate in the way she suggested that Obama was “lucky” he was African-American. Her underlying point — that a woman with his credentials wouldn’t be a serious candidate for President — is right. On the other hand, Ferraro’s own credentials when she was nominated as Mondale’s running mate weren’t all that thick. She’d been in Congress for a long time, but she had virtually no foreign policy experience. Orange has a diary up right now saying (from the headline, I haven’t read it) that NOW strong-armed Mondale into picking her. I have no idea whether that is true, but the fact remains that Mondale himself was taken with the idea of having a running mate who would be making history.

    In any event, the furor caused by Ferraro’s initial comments were compounded when she dug her heels in and re-affirmed them, complaining as well that she was the victim of reverse racism. At that point, Clinton had no choice but to distance herself from Ferraro’s comments. But to say that Clinton has to “fire” Ferraro — in the way that Obama should have fired, and did fire, a paid senior consultant to his campaign — is silly. Ferraro is not a paid consultant to Clinton’s campaign. She’s an iconic Democratic figure who is raising funds, and has recently gone through a serious illness. Is Clinton going to humiliate her in that way? It would be nice if Clinton got her to step back from the more inflammatory aspects of her comments, but how to you fire an icon? Has Obama “fired” Al Sharpton?

    Anyway, for a while Olbermann was a hero, then he became my ex-boyfriend. And now? Dead to me. I’ve just regained an hour of my life each and every day.

  9. LGM: The comments were only inflammatory because Obama’s campaign *made* them that way. Ferraro’s comments were very much like Gloria Steinem’s remarks in the NY Times a while back. The difference is that Ferraro was clumsy. She was speaking not writing. It’s hard to edit words after they’ve left your mouth.
    And yes, she’s getting crap because she’s white. That doesn’t make white people victims of reverse discrimiation. It just means that a Clinton supporter can’t say ANYTHING about Obama without it getting twisted as racism and it hits her white supporters harder.
    I am not buying this “unfortunate remarks” crap. That’s just what they want. They want her people to be so scared of saying anything that they say nothing. Now is the time to stand up and say “Deal with it.” It’s time the media and Obama’s people stop screaming with outrage about every utterance from a Clinton supporter’s mouth.

  10. They should also remember what happened to the NV teachers union suit against the caucus set-up. The Court came down as expected: “Its a party matter, not a legal matter. Take it outside.”

  11. rd– I agree with you. The constant accusations of racism from Obama’s campaign are not going to help them long-term. Maybe it would have been better if Ferraro hadn’t said it, but the faux outrage in the media is just ridiculous. They are playing us. Once they have Obama safely ensconced as the nominee, they will suddenly stop noticing anything the Republicans do that is negative (including racial dogwhistling) toward Obama. I don’t believe for one second that the media is going to suddenly rally around the Dem nominee and help him defeat McCain.

    Furthermore, Ferraro herself did point out in the same interview that she wouldn’t have been the VP nominee if she weren’t a woman. It was something Mondale wanted to do.

  12. Riverdaughter,

    Obama’s campaign plan was given by Dodd. It’s really the dirtiest of politics. Idiot Dodd (the man consistently claimed Hillary’s negatives are too high, she is polarizing, and won’t get elected! but himself was consistently lurking at 1%) has proposed dividing the FL and MI delegates 50-50. They have the DNC and I guess, the whatever committee it is that decides these things. so they believe they will have the delegate lead at the convention to get their way.
    Their idea is that they split the delegates 50-50 (or whatever still gives them the lead), build months of legitimacy based on being ahead on delegates, and voters won’t notice that dividing a state’s delegate 50-50 is EXACTLY the same as NOT seating them.

    I believe that the Clinton campaign should fight this, FIGHT IT NOW with all their might. THE TIME TO STOP THIS PLAN IS NOW.

  13. How especially horrid it is that an African-American candidate wants to suppress votes. Sickening.

  14. litigagormom–Geraldine Ferraro has said that had her name been Gerald Ferraro she would never have been selected to be a VP candidate. She’s very upfront about that.

    I read she said it in the newspaper interview, but I don’t have a link.

  15. ghost2–Obama was on TV a few days ago saying that it was fine to seat the MI and FL delegates as long as they had no effect on the outcome of the primaries.

    Which is, as you state, taking their votes away from them.

    Again, MI’s Dem offcicials and state Dem Party did it to themselves and the Dem voters, but in FL it was the Repub officials and legislature which did it to the FL Dem Party and FL Dem voters.

    SInce when does the DNC take its marching orders form the Repubs?

  16. I watched KO last night to catch up on MS primary news. I haven’t watched for awhile and was pretty taken aback that he had nothing to say about the primary campaign except negative things about Hillary. I just clicked off.

    As litigatormom says, a good way to retrieve an hour of lfe time.

  17. This is why I have urged all of my friends who are Clinton supporters to write in Clinton’s name on their ballot if Obama gets the nomination. I WILL NOT vote for anyone who disenfranchises voters even if they are a Democrat. Obama, Dean, Brazile, Kerry, Dodd…all of these people need to be taught a lesson and if it means McCain winning the nomination and thousands of Democrats writing in Hillary Clinton then so be it. Clinton supporters need to stand up to this type of treatment. No we won’t fall in line if Obama gets the nomination without counting two huge states.

  18. ghost2 — A 50/50 split is NOT AT ALL the same as not seating the delegations.

    A 50/50 split gives them FRONT ROW SEATS at the arranged spectacle by which their disenfranchisement is made manifest.

  19. MSNBC.com’s home page has a BREAKING NEWS banner that says that Gerry Ferraro is resigning from Clinton’s campaign.

    No details as of yet.

    I wonder if this takes the wind out of Keith Blowhard Olbermann’s sails tonight.

  20. Yes. This is Ferraro’s resignation letter. I hope this backfires on Obama and Olbermann:

    Dear Hillary –

    I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign.

    The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you.

    I won’t let that happen.

    Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do to make this a better world for my children and grandchildren.

    You have my deep admiration and respect.


  21. My bad. I didn’t realize that all of my Democratic heroes were racists. What a shame. I guess all I can do now is sit back, support Obama, cheer when the Florida and Michigan votes are divided 50/50, and give lots of money to the DNC.

    I hope that you are all planning to stay around for the long term, I have a feeling that I will need some friends. We will win this fight, restructure the DNC , restore Ferraro’s good name, get new elections in Florida and Michigan, and set the Earth back on its axis.

  22. Ferraro is a good soldier.

  23. But this ain’t over . . .

  24. Marc Ambinder flags as credible an appeal that would seat FL (and by extension, MI’s) superdelegates, on the premise that they are “automatic” under the DNC Charter, to which the DNC Rules are subordinate.

    That’s 23 automatics from FL, plus 26 from MI.

    49 delegates pissed off at the forces of disenfranchisement. They are all at will, and they won’t all favor Hillary, but they could be a force.

  25. Hillary and Bill Clinton have made a significant issue about how the press is treating Hillary unfairly in their hyper-critical reporting on her and their “softball” reporting on Barak Obama. Hillary maintains she has been fully investigated by the media and Barak hasn’t! As the Tony Rezko trial begins in Chicago, Clinton and her surrogates are linking Obama to Rezko and the media is speculating about whether Obama will be called to testify as a witness in the case. Obama has always admitted he received $85,000 in contributions from Rezko which Obama has now donated to charity rather than keep. Yet the civil fraud trial of Bill Clinton for defrauduing Hillary’s largest donor in 2000 into giving her campaign more than $1.2 million, pending in Los Angeles courts since 2003, is now preparing for a November, 2008 trial. The discovery that is now proceeding after a February 21 hearing, and the pending trial, have NEVER been announced by the mainstream media. Hillary was able to extricate herself as a co-defendant in the case in January, 2008 after years of appeals to be protected by the First Amendment from tort claims arising out of federal campaign solicitations she made. Her abuse of the intent of California’s anti-SLAPP law after the California Supreme Court refused to dismiss her from the case in 2004 is emblematic of her contempt for the Rule of Law. Hillary will be called as a witness in both discovery and the trial according to the trial court Judge who so-advised Hillary’s attorney David Kendall when he dismissed Hillary as a co-defendant in 2007. A subpoena is being prepared this month and will be served personally on Hillary, along with Chelsea, Pa Gov. Ed Rendell, Al Gore and other well known political and media figures. Yet the media has refused to report about this landmark civil fraud case- brought by Hillary’s biggest 2000 donor to her Senate race, regarding allegations that were corroborated by the Department of Justice in the criminal trial of Hillary’s finance director David Rosen in May, 2005. That indictment and trial was credited as resulting from the civil suit’s allegations by Peter Paul, the Hollywood dot com millionaire Bill Clinton convinced to donate more than $1.2 million (according to the DOJ prosecutors and the FBI) to Hillary’s Senate campaign as part of a post White House business deal with Bill. The media – except for World Net Daily- has also suspiciously refused to report on Hillary’s last FEC report regarding her 2000 Senate campaign, filed in January 30, 2006. In a secret settlement of an FEC complaint by the plaintiff in Paul v Clinton, Peter Paul, the FEC fined Hillary’s campaign $35,000 for hiding more than $720,000 in donations from Paul, and it required Hillary’s campaign to file a 4th amended FEC report. In that report Hillary and her campaign again hid Paul’s $1.2 million contribution to her campaign and falsely attributed $250,000 as being donated by Paul’s partner, Spider Man creator Stan Lee, who swore in a video taped deposition he never gave Hillary or her campaign any money. Lee did testify to trading $100,000 checks with Paul to make it appear he gave $100,000 to Hillary’s campaign (admission of a felony) but none of that has been reported by the “overly critical” media! Where is the outrage from Obama that the press is engaging in a double standard relating to his possible role in the Rezko trial and his refunding the $85,000 contributed to his campaign by Rezko- which Obama has always admitted taking. The media makes no mention of Hillary’s role as a witness in Bill’s fraud trial for defrauding Hillary’s largest donor- and Hillary’s refusal to refund the $1.2 million she illegally received from Paul, which she has denied taking from Paul ever since the Washington Post asked her about Paul and his felony convictions from the 1970’s before her first Senate election in 2000? Visit Hillcap.org for videos and info.

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