Alright, there’s no reason to belabor the point. Yeah, yeah, courtesy of intense media fluffing Obama is ahead. But it’s not over yet. One good debate should put everything back in perspective.
Anyway, there’s more stuff for me to do today. What do these people want from me, a cure for cancer?!?! Er, Ok, I’ll try. (NOTE: I happen to be the luckiest person in the world when it comes to work. I have a job I love and I work for a woman who I admire greatly. She is fair, collaborative, professional and the best mentor I have ever had. So, I’m just kidding about the work thing. It’s actually quite fun.) In the meantime, enjoy these fine selections from around the web:
- Terry Gross does it again with another great interview comparing the healthcare plans of the candidates. Political scientist Jonathan Oberlander is her guest. Highly recommended.
- ghost2 pointed me to a speech that Obama gave in 2006 where we can get an idea of the roll of religion in his America:
Democrats, for the most part, have taken the bait. At best, we may try to avoid the conversation about religious values altogether, fearful of offending anyone and claiming that – regardless of our personal beliefs – constitutional principles tie our hands. At worst, some liberals dismiss religion in the public square as inherently irrational or intolerant, insisting on a caricature of religious Americans that paints them as fanatical, or thinking that the very word “Christian” describes one’s political opponents, not people of faith.Such strategies of avoidance may work for progressives when the opponent is Alan Keyes. But over the long haul, I think we make a mistake when we fail to acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people, and join a serious debate about how to reconcile faith with our modern, pluralistic democracy.
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This is why, if we truly hope to speak to people where they’re at – to communicate our hopes and values in a way that’s relevant to their own – we cannot abandon the field of religious discourse. …
I don’t know about you but I don’t particularly like the idea that my presidential candidate assumes that religion is an essential part of our lives and I don’t care which religion he’s referring to. If the religious want to talk amongst themselves about the value of religion in their lives, that’s just ticketyboo but must the rest of us be subjected to it? I happen to have a faith but my adolescent decided at the tender age of nine that she doesn’t believe in God. I don’t recall her saying she didn’t believe in good moral behavior and values. It was just the whole God part she had trouble swallowing. Obama gives me the impression that she’s somehow unfulfilled because she’s not a religious person, as if her moral maturity level is stunted and it would behoove her to hear about the religious values and dogmas of others. This is one of the many reasons I can’t support Obama. I don’t hear any tolerance from him regarding non-believers. Instead of telling the faithful to back off and let others have some breathing room, he takes pains to chastise his own side for daring to dissent on the necessity of faith itself. The pluralistic society he refers to contains not just many faiths but sometimes NO faith. He seems to run from unpopular faiths like Islam and he fails to acknowledge the full citizenship of the atheist. That’s just wrong, IMHO.
- I never liked Howard Dean. There, I said it. When the whole world was going crazy for him in 2004, he just didn’t do it for me. The hype around him seemed artificial, sort of like Obama today. And whatever his message was, it didn’t resonate with me. It had nothing to do with the scream. I felt this way about Dean before the scream. He projected something that just bounced off of me. Wes Clark was more my style. But the netroots like Howard and I think the failure to get him nominated in 2004 has a lot to do with their zealous frenzy to push Obama down our throats in 2008: it makes them feel important. But it’s sort of like being rebels without a cause. Many of them know that Obama is not ready or doesn’t have their best interests at heart. That’s not the point. The point is they are not going to be told what to do. They are the new generation, blah, blah, blah. Like the rest of us are geezers. Anyway, back to Howard. If anyone is responsible for the mess that the nomination process is in right now, it’s Howard. My theory, and you can disagree if you’d like, is that Howard is an Idea Rat. In Dilbert cartoons, the Idea Rat is the one who comes to meetings and says stuff like “We need to restructure our core compentencies and maximize our values to become a worldclass organization!” And everyone says what a great idea that is (it could be something much more worthy than bizspeak, but you get the point) and they turn to him and say, “Go do it” and he says, “Oh, I can’t do it. I’m just an Idea Rat.” This is Howard. He’s got a lot of great ideas but implementation is a problem. He’s not quite sure how to pull that off. So, yes, it is a great idea that the big Democratic states finally got a say in the primary system after letting NH and Iowa pick our candidates. But it sucks that now that I’ve gotten to cast my ballot for my candidate of choice in NJ, along with my likeminded friends in NY, CA, MA, MI and FL, *our* preferences will be essentially negated by Howard’s not-very-well-thought-through decision to not seat the Florida and Michigan delegations. The disenfranchisement of a good portion of the Democratic electorate by the elimination of Florida is summed up in the following cartoon.
Thanks Howard.
Filed under: General | Tagged: Barack Obama, Florida primary, healthcare, Howard Dean, Jonathan Oberlander, religion, Terry Gross |
I’m sitting here finishing up my morning tea and listening to music and the sound of a hammer. The carpet guy just showed up to do the basement stairway… one of the last bits of the big kitchen remodel. Although all the big stuff has been done for some time we’re still finishing up the last parts… they finally did the tile this Monday and the wallpaper is next week and then the final coat of poly on the wood floor – hurray!. Then if might actually, finally be done.
I must also confess that I am not a big Howard Dean fan. Never understood the appeal of him for Prez. He did give a nice speech at Yearly Kos last year but Clark’s speech there was awesome! I too was a Clarkie at heart, though I knew he would not go far. But I’m glad he’s advising Hillary and hope to see him get a top job in her administration.
I missed alot of the Dean frenzy …. I was not yet a part of the netroots in 2004 so I only watched the MSM take on things. What finally brought me to the netroots was the Shrub getting re-elected. My first mission after he got re-elected was to get involved with the Counter Inaugural. That was the most unusual protest I’ve ever been to (OK, I haven’t been to that many as protesting is not my style for the most part). It was a totally fun and great experience! Then after I came home I started surfing the net to find more reliable alternative news sources. Then I came across Daily Kos in Mar of 2005, though I didn’t ‘join up’ until fall 2006.
Hey is it my imagination or did Obama start talking a little differently at some point? He has that preacher undertone goin’ on more in his speeches these days. I don’t need no religious revival in my government and have always beent runed off by politicians who use godly words in their stump speech. I’m a New Englander, religion is a private matter here for the most part. I have never heard any local poltiicans do god talk. And thank the goddess for that!
‘along with my likeminded friends in NY, CA, MA, MI and FL’
hey, don’t forget Arizona!!!!
We Hillary supporters here are very proud that we managed to win 7 out of 8 congressional districts in spite of the Gov,.the popular congressman the big newspaper and the entire city councils support of Obama.
Anyway.
I did love Howard, but I agree with you that he has made some mistakes, and the FL and Mi thing is right up there at the top of his mistake list.
I also agree with you about the religion thing.
However, if Hillary doesn’t win, not to worry.
McCain is an ass, but he is not religious and won’t even try to fake it.
dragoneyes,
Your post made me envious..you are listening to music and drinking tea while someone else works on your house.
Oh what a dream that would be, me, I’m Mr. Fixits reluctant little helper.
Remember the good old days of separation of church and state? When John F. Kennedy had to promise that he wouldn’t let his religious beliefs influence his policymaking? Well, technically, I don’t remember that latter part, but it sure is a nice idea, isn’t it?
I, too, am uncomfortable with all the rallying ’round the cross that goes on. You’re religious? Swell, God bless, you should pardon the expression. But don’t go getting your Jesus in my Constiution, please! Mike Huckabee, I’m lookin’ at YOU…
Speaking of debates, I got into a minor tussle on Kos when someone posted a diary about Hillary’s “attack” ad on Obama in Wisconsin. She points out in it that he has refused a one-on-one debate with her.
They’re foaming at the mouth about it, so I pointed out that perhaps Obama, now seeing himself as the frontrunner, doesn’t want to run the risk of losing another head-on debate; Hillary acquitted herself quite well in the last one. I mentioned that much more can be learned from a substantive one-on-one debate.
Well, the reply I got was, “She didn’t disclose her tax records.” HUH???? It reminds me of any time a Dem points out the crimes of the Bush administration, and Republican yells back, “But…But…But…CLINTON!” LoL