Comments for The Confluence http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com A weblog for Democrats in Exile Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:49:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on vpResident Evil by dakinikat http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/vpresident-evil/#comment-369141 dakinikat Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:49:00 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23138#comment-369141 yeah, we can keep a few of them, but not many !!!! yeah, we can keep a few of them, but not many !!!!

]]> Comment on Cap and Trade: the answer to global warming or another Wall Street payday? by murphy http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/cap-and-trade-the-answer-to-global-warming-or-another-wall-street-payday/#comment-369140 murphy Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:28:07 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23125#comment-369140 right -- I love paying taxes since I think they're the price we pay for civilization, BUT: I want my damn money's worth! as it is now, we pay up to 50% of our income to taxes and health insurance, for WHAT??? right — I love paying taxes since I think they’re the price we pay for civilization, BUT: I want my damn money’s worth!

as it is now, we pay up to 50% of our income to taxes and health insurance, for WHAT???

]]> Comment on Cap and Trade: the answer to global warming or another Wall Street payday? by jangles http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/cap-and-trade-the-answer-to-global-warming-or-another-wall-street-payday/#comment-369139 jangles Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:23:26 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23125#comment-369139 Two more reasons why a global/international response to co2 is so important. The two major emerging market areas in the world today that are really new on the world modern economic scene are the Middle East and Africa---what happens when they exchange poverty and subsistence for growing economies? What is our position as a major carbon polluter? We are a huge polluter---how do we tell people who have lived in abject poverty that they have to hold back on the wonders of a modern liefe style and limit their carbon emissions? We have ours; sorry you came to the table so late but there are just no "leftovers" for you. Two more reasons why a global/international response to co2 is so important. The two major emerging market areas in the world today that are really new on the world modern economic scene are the Middle East and Africa—what happens when they exchange poverty and subsistence for growing economies? What is our position as a major carbon polluter? We are a huge polluter—how do we tell people who have lived in abject poverty that they have to hold back on the wonders of a modern liefe style and limit their carbon emissions? We have ours; sorry you came to the table so late but there are just no “leftovers” for you.

]]> Comment on Sunday morning at The Confluence: continental breakfast and some news to chew on by lorac http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/sunday-morning-at-the-confluence-continental-breakfast-and-some-news-to-chew-on/#comment-369138 lorac Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:21:32 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23085#comment-369138 I agree with you, Wonk. I agree with you, Wonk.

]]> Comment on vpResident Evil by Stateofdisbelief http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/vpresident-evil/#comment-369137 Stateofdisbelief Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:20:30 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23138#comment-369137 Never forget the arrogance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SypeZjeOrY4 Never forget the arrogance:

]]> Comment on vpResident Evil by Stateofdisbelief http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/vpresident-evil/#comment-369136 Stateofdisbelief Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:17:42 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23138#comment-369136 can we keep Kucinich and DeFazio? I kinda like them. :) and maybe give Franken a chance to show his stones. can we keep Kucinich and DeFazio? I kinda like them. :) and maybe give Franken a chance to show his stones.

]]> Comment on vpResident Evil by dakinikat http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/vpresident-evil/#comment-369135 dakinikat Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:15:44 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23138#comment-369135 we need to cleanse the entire pack of them ... we need to cleanse the entire pack of them …

]]> Comment on Cap and Trade: the answer to global warming or another Wall Street payday? by jangles http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/cap-and-trade-the-answer-to-global-warming-or-another-wall-street-payday/#comment-369134 jangles Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:15:14 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23125#comment-369134 Murphy as your article so aptly points out---the US is not going to have much impact on its own. We have probably reduced our rate of increase for our carbon footprint already simply because we have lost so many manufacturing jobs while China, India and Russia have a huge increase because they have increased manufacturing---especially China and India. Even if we actually reduce our carbon emissions by 20% (as opposed to having a 3% increase) that change will mean nothing is China and India each increase their emissions by another 30 or 50%---in fact if you look at how big each of those countries are---their increases would make our decreases miniscule in comparison. Of course, if we have the kind of economic drag we are all predicting, we may not need legislation to get our emissions down. Poverty will take care of all that. Murphy, thank you for bringing up that information and sourcing it. Murphy as your article so aptly points out—the US is not going to have much impact on its own. We have probably reduced our rate of increase for our carbon footprint already simply because we have lost so many manufacturing jobs while China, India and Russia have a huge increase because they have increased manufacturing—especially China and India.

Even if we actually reduce our carbon emissions by 20% (as opposed to having a 3% increase) that change will mean nothing is China and India each increase their emissions by another 30 or 50%—in fact if you look at how big each of those countries are—their increases would make our decreases miniscule in comparison.

Of course, if we have the kind of economic drag we are all predicting, we may not need legislation to get our emissions down. Poverty will take care of all that.

Murphy, thank you for bringing up that information and sourcing it.

]]> Comment on vpResident Evil by dakinikat http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/vpresident-evil/#comment-369133 dakinikat Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:15:14 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23138#comment-369133 read the news week link. Some of the news stations this morning were thinking it was a trial balloon for Rahm to deal with read the news week link. Some of the news stations this morning were thinking it was a trial balloon for Rahm to deal with

]]> Comment on Cap and Trade: the answer to global warming or another Wall Street payday? by Stateofdisbelief http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/cap-and-trade-the-answer-to-global-warming-or-another-wall-street-payday/#comment-369131 Stateofdisbelief Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:08:03 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=23125#comment-369131 Any "pro" cap and traders out there with information to share? Any “pro” cap and traders out there with information to share?

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