This week, one of my professors brought up Sarah Palin in class. I always HATE when professors talk about politics, because the power differential in the classroom leaves you without much recourse to respond. So when my professor started criticizing Sarah Palin for bringing cookies into a school in the midst of an unprecedented Childhood Obesity Epidemic, I pretty much just bit my lip and looked away.
Let me explain. The phrase “nanny state” makes me break out in hives. I think that schools should be providing healthy foods for kids, and that junk food vending machines should be a comparative rarity on school campuses- at least until high school, when kids are going to eat what they want if they have to smuggle it in in their underpants. But I can’t help but cringe when I hear the phrase “Childhood Obesity”. So I was kind of cheering for Palin when she brought cookies to a school she visited as a way of protesting the area’s proposed limitations of classroom treats and celebrations (because what school really needs is LESS FUN).
But here’s what you need to know about me: I used to be fat. Not “a little chubby”, but clinically obese, surgical options fat. I am a way-left Liberal. I am a feminist. And I’m working on a doctorate degree in psychology. So when people talk about childhood obesity, here’s what I hear: No Fat Chicks.
Oh, I know all about the health risks that are supposedly associated with obesity. But if we’re so horrified by these health risks, why do we focus on the obesity stuff and not just talk about Colon Cancer, or Heart Disease, or Diabetes? After all, there are plenty of risk factors for each of those diseases above and beyond obesity. Not to mention the fact that if society actually cared about the health of the obese, they wouldn’t be getting lower quality health care. Fat people are hated and discriminated against, and that stigma comes with health consequences, and if people cared about fat people, they could be working to combat that stigma. Not so much. So hysteria about the “Obesity Epidemic” is not really doing anyone any favors.
Beyond the issues with urban food deserts, beyond the fact that obesity is Not simply solved by cutting down on sugary treats for most individuals, and beyond the fact that even following SURGICAL weight-loss interventions weight loss is extremely difficult to maintain, simplistic and heavy-handed interventions are worse than incompetent- they are DANGEROUS. Anti-obesity hysteria is contributing to a considerable increase in eating disorders in teenage girls (eating disorders are, by far, the most fatal of all mental disorders).
And guess who is more likely to be obese? Why, it’s women and girls! And who suffers the most from anti-obesity stigma? Women and girls! And guess who suffers overwhelmingly from eating disorders? Again, women and girls! And guess who is more likely to be living in poverty? Right Again! This anti-obesity push is a Gendered Issue.
Of course, lots of anti-obesity activists are just plain misogynists who think that women who are insufficiently decorative are blights on society. But while I understand that most anti-obesity activists may have their hearts in the right place, I urge them to consider that their criticisms are landing on women who are already punished every day for their weight, who might not have a lot of options, and on girls who might be teetering on the brink of a catastrophic eating disorder.
And why? Because we don’t want to foot the bill for their health care. Never mind that health care in this country isn’t exactly heavily subsidized to begin with. Never mind that we don’t kick up this much fuss for smokers, athletes, alcoholics, or anyone else whose behavior directly leads to their healthcare costs (except for abortions- oh wait, Women Again).
No, this is just another instance of embracing misogyny in the name of social justice. And it certainly isn’t the first time.
Good points, Sandress! I’ve struggled with my weight for most of my adult life. And I’ve been clinically (actually) obese myself.
I don’t really see how sweet & special treats for sweet and special days is the source of health danger for kids.
It’s the daily sub-nutritional meals that too many kids are used to eating that’s the real danger to their health.
This is an issue that’s very close to my heart.
I think part of it though is that pretty much any day could be considered a “special day” when you have a classroom full of children filled with birthdays though.
I guess I was thinking of monthly birthday celebrations. (shrugs) Oh, well. My kids are long past it.
Yet another argument for smaller class sizes.
Actually smokers did get picked on with SCHIP and both alcohol and cigarettes get taxed at higher rates because of their health effects(at least that what we’re told although monies that were meant for funding for smoking programs got utilized for stuff that had little coorelation to smoking). And the impression I get is they’re coming for soda and candy next.
Anyway I’m sorry that people have made you feel awful and have discriminated against you. It’s an awful feeling to be prejudged based on appearance and it’s really shallow for people to do so.
The Washington state congress passed a candy and bottled beverage tax. Candy items included anything that didn’t have flour in its recipe. Thus, Twix bars which include flour WEREN’T taxed, but granola bars (which at least have a tiny bit of fiber and maybe a nut or two) were taxed.
As I saw it, it was a poorly designed, socially engineered regressive tax on poor kids…and included was a tax on bottled water? OMG….
This last election, the voters repealed the tax.
Oh, the government is just appalled. I’ve heard we’re turning off street lights because of it (Why is it that the most visible public benefits are the first to go during budget cuts?). I’m pleased. I’m a liberal. I don’t DO social engineering. They need to find a less regressive, less stupid, way to tax.
I’d be more excited about WA voters overturning that tax if they hadn’t basically voted anti-tax on EVERY measure, including the taxes that were Good ideas and that Wouldn’t have hurt the middle-class and working-poor.
Eating healthy food is all that matters, and let the body find its own weight.
Exactly. Contrary to the media fat women hate, many plus sized ladies like the women in my family for generations are not human food vacuum cleaners, just the opposite in fact, low metabolism, thus smaller food intakes. And the women in my family might have been plus sized but most of them lived pretty healthy lives into their 90′s. I’m not worried about my low metabolism or being plus sized. I’m in better health than a lot of skinny 20 somethings and I’m 44. I’ve weighed basically the same weight for about 20 years now. This is the size I’m meant to be. Don’t like the middle aged sag, but hey that’s just what happens to normal bodies. Only surgery I ever have considered is breast reduction, D cup just gets in the way too much, wish I was a C cup, big enough to mostly be in proportion with my broad hips, but just enough smaller that they don’t get in the way. I found out a comfortable minimizer bra will pretty much do that though, much more cheaply and much less painfully.
The Bored of Supervisors has already promised to override the veto.
I love Newsom.
The stupid part is Mickey D’s can still sell the high-calorie meals, they just can’t include a toy with it.
The meals aren’t even “high calorie” necessarily. You can pick a milk or apple dippers to round off the cheeseburger or nuggets and stay well under 500 calories. High sodium yes, high calorie, meh.
I like Happy Meals on occasion. I’m pretty sure McD’s fries would get eaten in our household even without the toy. Hellooooooo horrible for me salty goodness!
What I find interesting and what I wonder is next is does the Food Brigade head on into the grocery stores and start purging the shelves of Hamburger Helper and Kraft Mac and Cheese. Some of the prepackaged stuff is just as bad if not worse than some of the fast food options available.
Some people, particularly single mothers (women again) buy fast food meals for dinner because they are too busy and/or tired to come home and cook.
Not to mention that kids love the stuff, and it’s really stressful to have to constantly tell them they can’t eat the foods they crave.
I get so sick of hearing people talk about how it’s not so hard to come home and prepare healthy meals for your kids. Some women out there are working two or three jobs, often back-breaking labor. They may not have a car. They may live far from the nearest grocery store. Their electricity might be off. Tell me again how easy it is to cook healthy meals?
If you work a job where you have stand or walk all day you come home and just want to sit down and get off your feet.
People shouldn’t have to work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. That’s the sad part. However, we have a bunch of wusses in Congress that have allowed the GOP to define minimum wage jobs as being occupied by teens when the reality is far too many adults are reliant on 2-3 of them.
This is a complicated issue. But the concerns about childhood obesity do have very much to do with health. Kids who are overweight over time are at high risk for diabetes, hypertension, lipid disorders, orthopedic problems, apnea, etc. These are real, valid concerns. When you work with 10 year olds who have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and high blood pressure, like I do, it is not easy to dismiss the concerns about this. Is our treatment perfect? No, far from it. But we’re always trying to do better.
Bill Clinton has a program called The Alliance for a Healthier Generation that has been working on this issue for a while. Sometimes I think M0 picked this topic as yet another attempt to outshine the Clintons (as if she or her husband could!). Clinton recognized that if we don’t improve the health of kids with obesity, for the first time a new generation will have poorer health than their parents. That’s not something I want to see.
Somehow I got this nested in the wrong place. Oh well.
My intent here isn’t to say that obesity doesn’t have health effects. But villainizing obesity qua obesity basically misses the point. The problem is not the being fat, it is the health problems, and the obesity is the symptom of the underlying issues (many of which are CLASS issues). And when we go on and on about obesity, we are creating a fertile breeding ground for anorexia. Which is not an inconsiderable health problem, either, btw. We are also letting ourselves off the hook for perpetuating the conditions that LEAD to obesity by saying “STOP BEING FAT” as though it were that damn simple.
Really. We can have healthy initiatives – that help ALL kids – without it being anti-fat. Actually, our kids may be unhealthy in lots of ways, not just weight. How about the epidemic of asthma? of bullying? of depression? of childhood cancer? etc.
I had the opposite problem as you for most of my life. I was the skinny girl who could eat anything. The OMG you don’t even look like you’re a size 2! It”s sad that society tends to define us, and women in particular, by our looks. My side of the coin may appear to be easier but sadly it carries hardships too. Who wants to know that they are solely desired because of a very small portion of who she is and because of something that will change as time marches on? No one. So in the end no one really wins when the determining factor for a woman’s worth is defined by her size.
Agreed. I wasn’t always fat. I gained weight later on when my lifestyle suddenly became more sedentary after I moved away from everyone I knew.
My perspective is that it isn’t physically healthy to be psychologically unhealthy, and that stigma and self-loathing aren’t psychologically healthy. So I’m all for eating healthy. I’m all for the sensual pleasures of eating. I’m all for people looking beautiful or not on their own terms. But mostly, I want people to not feel like shit about themselves. And that means that women need to stop being told that their primary purpose is decorative.
They need to be told “You don’t have to be Pretty”
http://www.dressaday.com/2006/10/you-dont-have-to-be-pretty.html
I LOVE a Dress A Day!!!
omg, that is one fantastic quote!!
I agree. They should be told that pretty isn’t defined by a person’s appearance. It’s the inside that matters.
Our outer shells change so much that I really have a hard time understanding why society has such a fixation with appearance.
I went to the store to purchase beer for my husband and the cashier said, “Can I see your ID?” Now mind you I have grey in my hair and furrow lines on my brow and between my nose from scrunching up my face and smiling and what not. I kind of looked at her and laughed. I said, “Do I reaaaally look under 21 to you?” Her response….. I should be flattered. Why? Since when is it a compliment to be considered younger than the actual time that you actually spent on this planet. I’ve earned every single one of these wrinkles. Each line is a badge and a testament to my tenacity and my ability to endure. I wouldn’t want to be 21 again if someone paid me to. Just as when I shed 42 I won’t look back at it with anything other than a fondness of been there, done that.
Our society has become a bit ridiculous sometimes.
Good for you! Right on! Someone said they thought I was 17 today. No, I’m 20 and it still sucks.
Didn’t myiq write a post some time ago about how the war on obesity is a war on the lower class?
I vaguely remember something like that.
Oh, there it is.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/fat-is-the-new-dirty/
I’ve written so many posts I don’t even remember what I wrote sometimes. I have to re-read them.
That was a good one. You should re-post it.
Yea, trying to maintain people in poverty is quite
expensive.
I think you are right, the worry about “childhood obesity” where the focus is all about what is in school lunch or the sin of going to McDonalds is not helping kids.
How many TV shows have you seen with an overweight guy and a super cute thin wife… It is pretty easy to see where the social pressure is being placed and it has very little to do with health.
When I was in High School, they brought in McDonalds one day a week.
We had cupcakes on birthdays.
Then with all the allergies, and health concerns schools pretty much stopped the practice.
I still have fond memories of snack helper in kindergarten.
of course we also had recess and gym and I don’t remember having to learn anything pressing other than cutting paper and writing my name in kindergarten either.
Schools aren’t the same as they used to be.
The banter is great ..it puts me to sleep. Try this for a thought …sterilize all males @ say birth…victimize them when they are able to afford 15G for the mico…perhaps that’s when they can have and actually want and can afford children…..other wise let them do what they/we do….”few”..
fu** everything walking …ie or any other consensus position. Just saying ..we legislate everything else why not legislate appropriation. I being a “male” wouldn’t be apposed to this . Ibme….not4eveybd. ….but then what the heck..
another tac …take off some prison sentence for vasectomy and /or tube tie…another way of reducing population and part of the gene pool that perhaps should be reduced. I may sound like a Nazi but “not” …just trying to make the best of a xyz pool ..no race involved here only good / bad. Also don’t think this should be for 1st timers…everyone fups..at some point but 3 strikes should be enough… I rant to long at nothing that will be done ..but just saying ..
the circle is me
Another unfortunate victim of our lousy public school systems.
If the circle is him can I be a square or triangle?
“The banter is great…it puts me to sleep.”–moody1
No, sweetums, the recreational drugs you obviously take are what’s putting you to sleep.
Oh, what in Haruhi’s holy name is Spammy throwing a fit about NOW?
Speaketh not the name of a troll.
(If you say ABG three times he’ll show up at your house)
How about calling the miffed melanin-intensive dude “Gooberhead McFailbot”?
Of the $150 billion spent by marketers every year on advertising, about half is spent selling alcohol, drugs, caffiene, sugar and sex. Most of the rest on greed. Pays for all the TV shows and magazine articles though.
Very good post Sandress! I’m glad you are bringing up these points about the anti-obesity “movement” really being directed at women. I’ve never really been overweight, but when I was about 9 years old I spent the summer with my aunt in Greece and she stuffed me full of cookies and chocolate like I was Getel and she was the witch getting ready to cook me. I gained probably 15 lbs (and having been really thin before, I ended up about 10 lbs “overweight”). My mom freaked out when she saw me (in her defense, not just because of the weight gain but because of the poor diet my aunt had me on — seriously, I didn’t see a fruit or veggie that whole summer), put me on a diet and ever since then has been like a hawk about what I ate. Of course, I ended up with an eating disorder — I spent my 20s starving myself on less than 700 calories a day. ANYWAY, my point is, my mom had good intentions — her main focus was that I shouldn’t be eating junk food 24/7 and that I needed to be healty and active — but I still ended up thinking of “fat” as being some kind of sin akin to murder. And that is how a lot of people view “fat” and I agree that the whole “childhood obesity” movement is based on a hatred of fat people in this country and not really concern for health. Furthermore, it doesn’t take into account the money needed to actually eat well.
On a shallow note, has anyone noticed how much weight Michelle has gained after starting this whole “Lets Move” program. Dayum woman, if you are going to preach about eating well, don’t GAIN WEIGHT and think you have any credibility. Oh, and lay off the carbs!
That was me up there — must have accidently signed out of wordpress.
Yeah. The MO initiative really struck me the wrong way. It just seems as though it is all about her. Now that she has been made over and works out, she is the standard!! Well, sh$t, she has a gym and a cook and not a stressful menial job. She does not even have to take care of her kids all the time. Her program does not really address the necessary issues. It seems to be all show. Plus, Barry was a chubby kid. And, with all her work on herself, MO looks pretty hefty to me anyway.
Kids need to have cookies once in awhile. What they are not getting, as myiq pointed out, is physical activity. I bet Sarah Palin does not eat ‘skinny’ food all day long.
I agree with sandress’ point that it seems to be too much about looks.
One time, on the beach, the lifeguards put up a little sign that said ‘no fat chicks’. I was furious. I knew I was the one who could say something to them since I am slim and tall. They were short. I think I said something about no short dicks. I did have to step out of my normal way to do that.
I as SO glad you said that to the lifeguards — and you are right, being tall & thin helped because if an overweight woman had said it, they would have just ridiculed her.
And yes, MO has put on a lot of weight since starting the “Lets Move” program — she isnt apparatenly, practicing what she preaches.
The most sickening thing about this whole thing is that she said when she started it that one of her daughters (can’t remember which) had too high body fat %. WTF? Neither one of those girls looks “fat” to me, but by saying that in public it almost guarantees that girl is going to develop an eating disorder like I did. And, btw, when I was eating less than 700 calories a day and was a size 0 EVERYONE was telling me how great I looked. Now I’m a size 4 (still thin) and I actually FEEL great. Screw what others think.
Does anyone here know who Kelly Osborne is? She lost a lot of weight recently & she said in an interview that she got more h3ll from being fat than she ever did about the drugs she used to use. That is the sad state of our society — being a raging drug addict everyone turns a blind eye, but be overweight and they can’t stop throwing stones.
That is sad and pathetic. Elen’s wife Portia is also releasing her autobiography soon and will document her struggles with anorexia.
And I couldn’t believe MO said that about her daughter. Can you imagine how that must have made that poor kid feel?
I know exactly how that poor kid feels. As I said, I got “fat” after that summer in Greece without my mom there to make sure I ate my veggies. That experience, and my mom’s reaction (even though her heart was in the right place) has actually scared me for life. Not just the years of starvation that I put myself through, but even now that I am a healthy weight & feel good etc I have a bad relationship with food. Every single thing I put in my mouth I think “Should I eat this? How many calories are in this? Did I word out enough to eat this?” I eat very healthy foods (for the most part) but I still will not consume, under any circumstances, more than 1500 calories in one day. When I’m down I gorge myself on chocolate. I envy people who have a healthy relationship with food, like my brother. At my dad’s birthday I, of course, cut myself a tiny sliver of cake. My brother cut himself a HUGE piece. I said to him “You are going to eat all of that?” and he said “I run 40 miles a week, I can eat whatever I want.” I exercise a lot myself, but I just can’t think that way.
That sounds horrible. I know that my parents’ attitude towards my body has affected me. I get thrown approval scraps for my weight right now, but it’s small consolation after my old man told me I was going to get “as fat as your mother” for two solid years.
I feel you LittleIsis!! Funny how my brother (the boy) grew up with the same mom as I did and we have such differnt relationships with food. My mom never reacted to what he ate the same way she did to me (ie, if Robert ate ice cream no big deal, if I did she would always comment did I REALLY want to eat that). And, btw, my mom is a great mom in a lot of ways, but she wasn’t able to stop herself from giving me the same worries about food/weight that most women in our society have even though I never was actually “fat!”
It’s called psychological abuse. She and BO both have belittled their daughters on TV. If they say those kind of things on TV where millions of people will hear it, think of how much worse things they say in private.
I predict those girls will end up even more messed up than the Reagan kids. It’s a recipe for really bad teenage acting out too. Drug abuse, etc…
That whole story of Michelle Obama and her concern about childhood obesity sounds like it’s something that came right out of Madison Avenue. The story is just to pat, too stereotypical, too much like I’m making up a narrative so I can have an “issue”.
I’ve encountered many people who are holier than thou about weight — both males and females. Because they’re thin, it must be that they’re doing everything right and the overweight folks are doing everything wrong.
I have an uncle who started on a raw food diet when he turned about 60, and at the age of 80 is probably the most holier-than-thou person I’ve ever met.. Now, he’s decided that my autoimmune thyroid disease is due to the fact that I don’t eat raw! I try and tell him that he never had any disease before he started his raw diet, and thus he apparently had healthy genes. Given that I contracted a disease at 43 years, an age at which he was perfectly healthy even on a “normal” diet means that I probably don’t have healthy genes. It’s as simple as that to me, but somehow he doesn’t get it.
When I was young I was fairly thin. In the early days we were too poor to be fat. In my young adulthood I was a heavy drinker. I’d get so drunk on Friday night that the ensuing migraine would lead to 2 days without eating. I credit that horrifying lifestyle with staying thin in my 20′s…BUT NOBODY would ever have accused me of being fat so I must have been healthy, right? By 30, my suburban lifestyle was sedentary, since I couldn’t walk to work, etc. Now, for many reasons I’m anywhere from 40 to 60 pounds overweight depending on which ridiculous weight guideline you buy into.
My husband, on the other hand, was very athletic in his youth and blew out both his knees. Now, exercise is slow, non-aerobic, and short. Needless to say, keeping anything near a normal weight is difficult.
My SIL went from being pretty overweight to thin by running 5-8 miles per day and cutting carbohydrate sources entirely out of her diet. She took this diet to such an extreme that she stopped having periods and her doctor accused her of being an exercise anorexic. She looked great but was destroying her endocrine balance. Weight is a tough balancing act in general. She struggles, but she’s trying to get a healthy ATTITUDE about her weight.
People who are generally thin need to thank Gawd for that and stop thinking that somehow their path to weight loss is their own genius. Nobody wants to be fat. Obesity occurs for many reasons, brain chemistry, hormone disorders, arthritis, genetic tendencies, more.
Body types are different. Some people can’t be thin. The focus needs to be on health, not weight. As I’ve tried to demonstrate, the two aren’t necessarily correlated, but there’s such a tendency to equate being thin with being “just”.
End ramble….
Thanks Sandress……….We do have a struggle with food, been that way ever since Americans learned to strike a fire. When I look at the German side of the family lines, my ancestors were big boned, and plump, and good at baking. When I look to my Irish side, it’s potatoes, tators, and fries. When I look to my
Italian side, it’s spaghetti……..then there is the good old southern side with lots of hog meat, and fried
chicken with gravy. Love red eye gravy!
You are right, our society has turned the issue to be about fat chicks, and discrimination isn’t right. We don’t need to be destroyed by politicians and communities because we are carry the weight. I have friends who have gone under the knife to remove it, those who spent thousands joining up at a fat camp, and popping pills, and then turn around and head
for botox, because they are getting old. It just never ends, and women are tormenting themselves like
I’ve never seen before. Depressing to say the least.
Thanks for giving us your voice!
Hey, Sandress, I feel for you. I went through a period, and most girls go through it at some point in their adolescence, where I was “pudgy” if you want to call it that. It was for about two years in high school and I wasn’t over weight, or “obese” but I have a very high metabolism and because my dad put me on medication like aderal and strattera I was super super scary thin throughout most of my childhood. It turned out later that my ADD diagnosis was false- I actually have very razor sharp focus and the psychiatrist mistook what was probably sadness over adjusting to a switch in custody between my divorced parents as “attention” or “behavioral” problems, but I digress.
Anyway, I got off of all those happy pills and naturally I started gaining weight. My dad told me all the time I was getting fat, that it wasn’t appropriate for a teenage girl and that people were going to think I was “pregnant.”
And like I said, I wasn’t “obese” or even over weight, I just wasn’t “thin.” I’m back to being “thin” again since I became a vegetarian but it goes back to what you’re saying. Women are expected to look a certain way and they expect us not to notice when hot, thin women are married to fat guys on sitcoms.
And you’re right, it is a class issue as well as a gender one. Cheaper foods that working class or lower income folks can afford or low in nutrients. It’s not about eating less sweats or candy, it’s about getting nutrition and 99% of Americans do not have a balanced diet because of how processed our food is. If you ever read “animal vegetable miracle” by Barbara Kingsolver you’ll know what I mean. Women are encouraged to fast or go on faddy “low carb” diets that will actually make you gain all the weight back on the off chance that they work, which they normally don’t. 98% of people who go on “diets” also end up gaining back all the weight they lost.
Find Joy Nash on youtube and she’ll tell you more.
*gets off soap box*
I just saw a shirt that said “Fat people are harder to kidnap.”
ROFL. I want that T-Shirt.
I think your class would have benefited from your opinion. I know there is a power imbalance (try law school- it’s really amusing). But you’d actually be surprised the amount of profs who will actually respect you- or at least tolerate you- for speaking your mind. You always can exercise diplomacy even when straight out disagreeing.
With a lot of profs I would have. This one sort of intimidates me.
Well, as someone who worked two jobs and did do healthy meals I will tell you it is not impossible. One of the problems that I found is that “healthy” food is expensive out of season but you can use frozen veggies which are pretty close.
Meal planning is the big secret and also when you make something, double the recipe and freeze one so on the days that you are crunched for time you have something ready to pop in the oven.
I think the largest “aha” moment came for me w/r/t healthy food was the corporations have spent years lying to you about what is healthy with their advertising. I know my mother, a typical 60′s & 70′s mom, thought that giving us twinkies for a snack was healthy because the corporations told her so. This kind of stuff gets passed down to the next generation who just does what their mother did and the tradition continues.
A lot of people just feed their kids junk because they don’t know better or it’s just easier but frankly it’s more expensive in the long run.
“it’s just easier” is actually a REALLY good reason when what you do all damn day is struggle. Sometimes things need to be easy, and sometimes it is WORTH the sacrifice.
Well as a “Fat Chick” myself, I applaud sandress for this post. I would also like to add my personal theme song to this comment, as it fits in perfectly:
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