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Think Virtually Speaking is the only game in town?  Not so fast.  We started Conflucians Say a couple of years ago.  It’s kind of like The View except we’re unpaid, political junkies who no one has ever heard of.  One thing is for sure: we are the other side of the lefty blogosphere.  You know, the ones who got it right?  Not that we’re keeping score or anything.

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  1. The chat is up!

  2. I seem to have to upload an update to I tunes to get it. It goes very slow.

  3. I can hear DT but not RD very well

  4. bb, I think I just heard you say you’re not enthused about Patrick. You might want to check out jillstein.org

    Grace Ross didn’t even get enough sigs to get on the primary ballot. Typical!

  5. Seriously and Wonk, it was so lonely in the chat room without you. I tried to call in at one point, but I think I got a busy signal. Great show, though! You guys are fabulous!

  6. I didn’t get a chance to mention this story, but another middle school child has committed suicide after being tormented and harrassed by bullies.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7220896.html

    • Oh, that’s so sad.

    • oh no. :(
      He went to Cy Fair ISD. Sigh.

    • Ugh. The school’s response is just disgusting.

      • It’s a nation-wide epidemic. Schools need to have anti-bullying programs, even if it takes {gasp!} government regulation.

        • What’s a nationwide epidemic, bullying or suicide because of it?

        • They do. But sometimes, schools can go too far in the opposite direction. Remind me to tell you sometime about Brook’s Facebook page.

        • His most recent humiliation occurred the day before his suicide, when another student tripped Brown as he walked down a flight of stairs at the school, his parents said.
          When Brown hit the stairway landing and went to retrieve his book bag, the other student kicked his books everywhere and kicked Brown down the remaining flight of stairs, the Truongs said.
          Durham said that incident was investigated, but turned up no witnesses or video footage to corroborate the couple’s claims.

          Ri-ght, because he threw himself down the stairs and then killed himself for the hell of it.

          I knew a girl who was hazed in gym and kicked in the stomach by another kid. She told her parents, they told the school, and all that happened was the nurse asked her, “That didn’t really happen, did it?”

          • An article about my friend Eric, who was also bullied to death.

            http://www.zimbio.com/Eric+Mohat

            I still miss him and Meredith :(

          • LI, so sorry to hear about your friend.

          • God, that’s so horrifying. I’m so sorry.

          • I’m so sorry, Littleisis.

          • I got slammed over the head in German class with a textbook and the teacher wouldn’t do anything about it.

          • LI, I’m so sorry about your friend.

          • Stories like the one Seriously mentioned above are so common. Schools really do need to do more, especially my High School. They’ve had five suicides in the past two years, four of which were bully related. The last one was a Croatian and she was a relative of a friend of mine. It just has to stop and every time I hear these stories it just makes it worse.

          • Let’s hope there will be action now that Mass. has passed the anti-bullying law. What happened to that boy was assault.
            Bullying like that is a crime and should be treated as such.

          • Also, kids are scared. Whenever there’s a bullying suicide, people talk about the psychological pain, which of course is very real, but a lot of kids are also terrified of being physically hurt or killed and I’m sure that plays a part in many suicides too. The person who kicked this girl was really scary and loved knives and blood and everyone was waiting for him to snap. Just because we’re dealing with kids doesn’t make those fears invalid.

          • That’s a good point. In seventh grade I was bullied by a girl who liked violence, ect, I remember she had dead, empty eyes and she literally terrified me. It wasn’t until years later I realized she must have been emotionally disturbed, because a friend of mine told me that she had been molested by one of her foster parents. I didn’t know that at the time, I just remember feeling very scared.

          • (((Littleisis)))

        • IMO schools don’t need anti-bullying programs so much as adults have to start behaving like mature grown-ups and stop bullying each other.

          Bush Republicans were bullies (remember how the Dixie Chicks were treated and the rallies where CDs were smashed?). Obama Democrats were bullies all through the campaign, and they still are. And it’s by no means only in political discussion, bullying behavior among adults is where the epidemic is being fueled.

          We can’t program-out or regulate-out behavior that adults are teaching to children.

    • :( That brings back bad memories.

  7. Well, it seems like old times!!!

  8. One more recommendation wrt the religion thing. Check out The Brick Testament. Takes the gravitas right out of the Bible. And it’s all straight from scripture.

  9. Who’s still talking on the show? Are you guys still talking? Or is that re-running the show?

  10. Oh no! Mike Dukakis says he “popped in” to the White House recently to share his strategy for the upcoming midterm elections.

    pound key precincts across the country with the message that Republicans want to implement the same policies that led to the Great Recession.

    Dukakis, who said in a telephone interview that he “popped in” to the White House while on a trip here several weeks ago, said he told aides to President Obama that Republicans “want to go back and do exactly what got us in this mess in the first place.”

    “It seems to me there has to be a single message coming from Democrats, from the president on down,” Dukakis said. “We’ve got to pound that message as hard as can from now until November.”

    Gee, how original!

  11. Oh, isn’t this just duckie?

    One Democratic operative gasped when told of Biden’s remarks and wondered “why they would pick a fight with the base” five weeks before a midterm election that will hinge on turnout.

    “It’s idiotic is what it is,” says Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas, one of Obama’s most pointed critics on the left. “If Democrats, with the White House and Congressional super-majorities, had delivered on what they had promised, and if people had jobs, no one would be whining. They have reaped what they sowed. They haven’t delivered on what they’ve promised — and instead of making the case as to why they would do if they are reelected, they are insulting people.

    • let me repeat Markos Moulitsas, one of OBAMA’S MOST POINTED CRITICS ON THE LEFT!!!

      Hell musta froze over for certain!

      • WTF?! If he is considered a “pointed critic,” the professional left is in deep sh*t.

        • it’s Glen Thrush at Politico … go read it … I wish myiq2xu were around to give it a send off… it’s unbelievable!

          • LOL

            Biden’s comments weren’t premeditated and reflect Biden’s shoot-from-the-lip style, officials said. But that matters little to a Democratic base grown somnambulant and frustrated with the president’s willingness to accept ugly, if productive, compromises on the stimulus, Wall Street reform and health care.

            Judging from the initial reaction to Biden’s remarks in Manchester, the base is plenty fired up – and ready to go.

            At Biden’s throat.

      • They don’t make pointy critics like they used to. Why is he surprised, 2 years ago insulting voters was the height of political genius. What changed?

        • I thought you wrote, “they don’t make pointy headed critics like they used to.”

          What’s changed? Marcos is now among the whining base that needs to “buck up”. Everyone’s a critic these days!

        • Not that long ago he was claiming Hillary darkened Obama’s skin in an ad!

          If only Joseph Cannon were still blogging.

          • Oh, god. I almost forgot about that. And remember that idiot’s diary that detailed “caucus fraud” because Latinas don’t marry Caucasians and people in Nevada don’t have Noo Yawk accents? The stupid, it burns.

      • That cracks me up. How is any of this different than what Obama said about PA voters? What is exactly new here? Jeebus.

      • They have reaped what they sowed….. instead of making the case……they are insulting people.

        Who is this “they” of whom you speak, you tiny little overcompensating wannabe? That would be you. And your nasty juvenile Obot army. Same tactics.

        Maybe next Obama will give you the sly finger and brush you off his shoulders. Because we all know that’s so freaking hilarious when he does that. Isn’t it. Isn’t it? Maybe he’ll play “I got 99 problems and a Prog Ain’t One” at his next rally. That would be knee-slapping good.

        STFU complaining, Markos. He has ALWAYS been arrogant and dismissive. This is not new. He is not behaving any differently than he has always behaved, behavior that you and yours cheered and defended. You just figured you had sucked up hard enough that you’d never be on the receiving end. Cry me a fucking river.

        I hope that it is very clearly revealed to the entire American public what PISS POOR judges of character the progressive blogosphere are. I hope that any political opinions you offer in the future will be viewed with the laughter, distrust, and contempt that you deserve. I hope that a big fat “O” brand stays burned into your hides as a mark of shame in the public eye.

        How’s that NewsWeek gig going? Welcome to irrelevancy, asshat. Welcome to being the joke and laughingstock of the whole country. Welcome to marginalization. I hope you choke on it.

        • yup, I like that … the scarlet “O” festooned with Greek columns right on their foreheads like ash marks

          • I think all these former Obots who now act like this need a permanent mark after they take off the uniform, kind of like as seen in the movie Inglorious Bastards.

          • They sold their souls – no, they sold OUR COUNTRY – for “access”. It wasn’t about good policy, it was about who (they thought) was young and hip enough to surely give them a prominent seat at the table and make them

            I don;t believe for one minute that half of these idiots actually thought Obama would make better decisions than Hilary. They just figured he’d be more likely to suck up to them and let them share in his newfound power. He was their ticket to the big leagues, baby.

            He’s been screwing up the country for 2 years and barely a peep from them. No, they are suddenly critical and affronted because he is disrespecting THEM. So long as he was just screwing over the country, they were pretty much cool with that.

            I have nothing but contempt for Markos and his cowardly, craven, self-important ilk. There’s not a principle they wouldn’t sell out for their own political celebrity. Color me unimpressed that they stuck their finger in the wind and figured they’d better go anti-Obama to save their own dwindling clout.

          • I doubt Kos or any of them have really gone anti-Obama. Kos’ idea of pointy asshat criticism during the HCR debate was to put up that progressive banner of “Let’s get reform done right” or whatever the hell it was AFTER the writing had long since been on the wall that the public option was a bait and switch and the only “reform” that would be “done” would be a junk insurance mandate.

        • Progressives are less intelligent than people in organized crime. A lot of whom try to get out of it because they know it’ll catch up to them eventually. They clap their little hands with glee and have to arrange 24 hour shifts because they’re so busily occupied throwing people under the bus, then when they feel this weird sensation and find themselves flying through the air and landing choking on exhaust fumes, they’re completely gobsmacked as to what’s happening to them and they never saw it coming. Because they’re such special, special snowflakes that they’d never share the same fate as–every other person Obama’s ever come in contact with in his political career. Of course!

        • Honk, honk, honk!

    • I think the world just turned upside down. :O

    • Markos isn’t even an actual Obama critic, let alone one of the most pointed ones.

      Oh and Markos 2010 is reaping what Markos 2008 sowed:

    • Dakinikat,

      You left out the coupe de grace of Markos’ remarks:

      “It’s a far cry from Bill Clinton’s ‘I feel your pain,’” he added.

      OMG!!!!!!

      Has there ever been such a hypocrite?

  12. At Firedoglake, David Dayan asks: Has the White House lost their minds?

    I’ve never seen a politician run an election with the message “Don’t be stupid, quit your bitching and vote for me.” This goes orders of magnitude beyond “Here are the stakes, my opponent would vote against everything you care about. That at least has a certain time-tested quality. That would make the election a choice and not a referendum. But “vote for me, you simpletons”? There’s a reason that strategy has never been employed: because it’s so insane to think that open berating would inspire a voter to action

    It’s exactly what the Obot hoards did during the entire primary and general election!!!

    • What in the world? Did these people take an extended nap that lasted for the whole of 2008? Maybe they were too busy running around like chickens with their heads cut off shrieking “Sarah Palin!!!!!!” to notice.

      • because it’s so insane to think that open berating would inspire a voter to action

        And it’s not like it just started with Obots, either. It’s the time-tested way Dems handled Nader voters and probably goes back even longer than that.

        • Reading the comments sections at FDL is unbelieveable these days. These people have gone from mocking pumas to hysterical, hair-on-fire, anti-Obama crazies in no time at all. There is even a diary over there about violent revolution. Did you know Ted Rall wrote a book advocating it?

          http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/73767

          • Sample FDL comment:

            Back when this piece of shit was selling out the American people for the insurance, medical, and pharma industries while progressives did everything we could to bring about the public option, at a minimum, I asked on these pages when the mocking of progressives would end and the begging for our volunteerism would begin. Well, surprise, surprise, neolibs refuse to beg progressives. They, Obama specifically here, think they can order us around, like our boss who happens to wander by the break room and sees us loitering.

            The truly funny thing is that in comparison to this pompous, arrogant, lying psychopath, I would rather have a beer with Bush. He was just along for the ride. Obama, it is becoming clearer every day, is just a despicable human being. Not only does he not keep his promises, not only was “change” too hard, he takes voluntary, affirmative action to do what he promised he wouldn’t do. I hope a GOP Congress impeaches this sorry son of bitch.

          • ustries while progressives did everything we could to bring about the public option

            *snorts* Yeah, installing Mr. Harry and Louise was about all anyone could really do, there. Heck of a job.

            Jeebus, they’re losing their $&@) over there. It’s like the progressive chapter of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders just discovered there’s no Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny doesn’t love them. Thank goodness they’ve come to the important realization that not the least little bit of this is their fault.

          • These people have gone from mocking pumas to hysterical, hair-on-fire, anti-Obama crazies in no time at all

            They know only two positions…at one’s feet or at one’s throat…..they finally realized Barry is not that in to them…FISA they take , but not that…NEVER that .

          • It’s hilarious because they’re playing right into the WH’s WATB narrative. They weren’t bothered by anything until Obama announced they’ve never really been his number one, like it wasn’t painfully obvious. It must be swell to be so overprivileged all one’s problems are so petty.

  13. I’m speechless. Really.

    McClatchy:


    Woodward book paints Graham as key Afghan war figure

    WASHINGTON — A new book by the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward describes Sen. Lindsey Graham as playing a central role in the formation and execution of President Barack Obama’s war policy in Afghanistan through his close ties to Vice President Joe Biden, Gen. David Petraeus and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.
    The book by the former Watergate reporter, “Obama’s Wars,” contains vivid and previously undisclosed portrayals of Graham’s closed-door conversations and confrontations with Obama, Afghan President Hamid Karzai and other key figures.
    snip

  14. It was good hanging last night with the ol’ bitter knitterz!
    Tabloids have caught on Obama’s attacking his own

    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/tabloids-torturing-the-donkey/

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