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Cover up those dirty pillows!

B is for boobies!


Q: What do women’s breasts and toy trains have in common?

A: They were intended for children but it’s grown men that play with them.


You just can’t make up shit like this. SF Gate:

Katy Perry’s cleavage is fine for Russell Brand — not so for Elmo and Sesame Street.

The children’s show says it won’t air a taped segment featuring the “California Gurls” singer and Elmo. The pop star — who is known for her risque outfits — wore a gold bustier top as she sang a version of her hit “Hot N Cold.” But some felt it was too revealing for the kid set.

Well we certainly don’t want our children exposed to women’s breasts. It might traumatize them.

Maybe we should require our wimmenz to cover up all their flesh when they appear in public so they don’t cause our fine upstanding menfork to have lewd, lascivious and immoral thoughts.

Personally, I find trouser cleavage to be much more offensive and unsightly. Until we stamp out crack I think women should be free to walk around topless.


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  1. BTW – we have an office pool going on how long it will be before the first hater shows up and calls me a sexist pig.

    I hope they hurry because I took “15 minutes or less.”

  2. hahahahahahahahahaha That’s human instinct should neveeer be ignored… hahahahahahahaha

    “flesh for Flesh”

  3. I actually thought that was a nice outfit. Seen much more revealing in a whole host of avenues. These repressed beings just have their priorities completely mixed up.

    Nudity is natural and sex is wonderful. Violence and war is what they should be focused on. On this issue, I think they just have a problem with Perry and her ideas and attitudes rather than her outfit. Some of these RWers are really, really sad.

  4. I don’t know, myiq. When my kids were toddlers & preschoolers (sesame street demographic) I didn’t particularly want them to think that sexy and revealing outfits were to be admired and emulated. No, I don’t want them picking the baby h**ker outfit for halloween. Nor do I want them asking for tattoos and nose piercings before they can read.

    And there’s enough crap on tv that parents have to avoid if the have the tv on that I think I can sympathize with them getting irate if they have to deal with it on PBS daytime programming.

    • I’m gonna take a wild guess and say you don’t live in a trailer park. If you did you would know that a child’s first tattoo is an important step in their lives.

      • lol.

      • Or their first swear word. (Like my four year old who told me yesterday, “Oh, we only swear DOWNSTAIRS!” I am so proud.)

        • *cracks up*

          • My daughter was not even two when she she learned to say “fucking train” one morning when her mother was running late.

            My baby girl was very proud of that addition to her vocabulary and for days afterward she shared it with everybody.she came in contact with, including total strangers in the supermarket.

          • I recall our daughter blurting out “oh bugger” at a party and the host was beside himself in shock. I was like: what’s the big deal? She just said “bugger.” Calm the #@$! down already.

      • I grew up in a trailer park, and I did just fine. I don’t have any tattoos either. My mom just couldn’t afford to live anywhere nicer after my father abandoned the family.

        I come here to lurk and read, and then I get slapped in the face with a comment like that. Screw you.

        • Well I grew up without my daddy too, and we had to live in the bad part of the trailer park, not the fancy section where people had doors and running water like where you lived.

          My mom used our food stamps to buy cigarettes and beer, and then she wouldn’t even share with me.

        • I think he does a stitch of self depricating humor, I don’t think he talking down to folks he is just a WILD ONE! I don’t know if I can post the video, but will try and find this Helen person but it could be Spammy.

    • OK, negative reaction, but not really going for the sexist label. And it was 17 minutes in. You lose myiq. Unless you’ve received email. :-)

    • I tend to agree with VoterMom on this. I would prefer breast be shown but for their function to these small children as more and more are being breast fed past age two. Their immune systems are better, they are healthier and they are well adjusted and not freaked out about breasts.

      La Leche League International
      http://www.llli.org/

      Oh, and I don’t think you want this granny running around topless… ;-)

  5. I don’t what the big deal is with a little cleavage, after all, most of the characters on Sesame St are neked.

    • You don’t recall the big censorship at FACEBOOK over the photo of breast feeding moms, on their own breast feeding page? Yet, sexy breasts are OK…go figure.

      • My guess is that most toddlers see breast feeding moms probably more than your average group of people .

        • Most toddlers have seen their mother naked because moms don’t get any privacy.

        • I remember in elementary school a teacher who changed her dress by the teacher’s closet at the side of the room. It was common to see her standing there in her slip applying makeup and none of us kids thought anything of it. Is that shocking or unusual?

          • Um, I went to 14 schools before I graduated and I never saw anything like that. We would have been shocked and I’m a child if the 60s-70s.

          • Ummm, Yes.

          • I’m shocked. Why was she changing her dress at school?

          • Was her name Mary Kay Letourneau?

          • Nope, Mrs. Demas. I have no idea why she was changing her dress in the classroom. I just assumed she had worn a heavy winter dress under her coat and changed into a lighter one for the classroom. I thought nothing of it at the time, but looking back, it seems a bit odd. It was the early 1960s.

    • Have you ever seen what Disney Princesses wear? Sheesh, I bet the same folks complaining about this don’t worry about MIley Cyrus pole dancing for their pre teens.

      • Actually didn’t she get a lot of flack a couple of years ago for a photo-shoot that was too lolita-ish?

  6. Eh.

    I’m going to say a bustier was probably the wrong wardrobe choice for a duet with elmo.

    A t-shirt wouldn’t have killed her.

    As I find Katy Perry to be a bit of a fake, I’m guessing she chose that outfit trying to be cute. Which is all well and good, but probably the wrong venue.

    I’d expect the same reaction if Gaga showed up in one of her “leather and lace” outfits.

    • She looks like a Disney Princess. Ariel had on less than that.

      • Children should also stay away from (most) Disney films.

        There are some pretty messed up messages delivered in their films. Particularly as they relate to issues of body image, good/evil, light/dark.

        Even with The Frog Princess. Yay for her having dark skin, but she’s a size -1.

        Not to read too much into cartoons though.

        I like my Transfomers and GI Joe. Shout-out to the Thundercats.

        • What about the old Warner Brothers/Bugs Bunny stuff?

          Racist stereotypes, a character that is basically a stalker/rapist, and lots of violence.

          • Some of the old, old cartoons are kinda painful to watch.

          • LOL! My granddaughter loves old Looney Tunes and WB., as well as the Three Stooges. The coyote falling off the cliff cracks her up. She’s a big fan of Tom and Jerry as well.

            I just don’t buy that those sort of cartoons make kids violent or anti-socail. Kids were more violent back then than they are now? Not. They are now growing up on carefully monitored politically correct pablum, showing them only the deemed “accepted” modes of thought or behavior, and they are more violent and bullying than ever.

            Maybe someone should do a study on whether the fascination of adolescents with violent crap is simply an overreaction to having had an entirely inhuman stifling non-competitive “niceness” force fed them in their early years. Maybe making them sublimate all that is coming back to bite us in the ass later.

          • My kids love a lot of old cartoons: Tom & Jerry , Sylvester & Tweety, etc.
            Lots of violence, yes, but the aggressor always loses and the little guy/victim wins by outsmarting him.

      • Yep!

  7. *shrug* I don’t see what the big deal is. Do these people who have kids never allow them to go to the beach? The sight of a low cut top is shocking to them? I have a pool, and wander around the house half of the summer here in hot-as-hell TX in my bikini. I’ve been known to mop in it, then go jump back in the pool when I get hot.

    ZOMG, is my almost-four-year-old grandbaby who lives with us going to be scarred for life?? She saw my booooobies! In a blue flowered scrap of fabric that displaaaaaays them attractively! Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

    Do people hide their kids in the closet when they have family over for a barbecue and their 22 -year-old Aunt Linda is wearing a tank top? I mean, where’s the line here?

    I find it odd that a society that seems to have no problem with the sexualization of actual children is freaked out over a kid noticing that a grown woman has breasts, and that those breasts may be as much decorative as functional. Kids should not be pushed to be sexual beings. But figuring out in mild ways such as this that adults are isn’t going to hurt them any.

    • It is less shocking than Gaga and her dress by Designer Freddie Krugger!

      • But toddlers ought not be watching the VMA’s either.

        Kanye cussed up a storm during the live show, partially unedited.

        Funny, because they censored “bullshit”, but let “asshole” go.

        • Oh, yeah, there are a lot of things that toddlers ought to be protected from. I just don’t think cleavage is one of them.

          • C’mon now.

            If Pamela Anderson showed up on Sesame Street wearing her “Stripperella” outfit?

            If cleavage is cleavage?

        • I didn’t even watch that, I mean as a guest on Sesame Street. I am not a GAGA fan.

          • Well that’s what I’m saying.

            The Meat Dress probably wouldn’t go over well with the parents either. (Nevermind it being a statement about LGBT rights)

            In addition to just being plain weird.

          • RAW meat was about gay rights? Completely went over my head, never would I have made that connection.

          • Most people didn’t until she explained it.

            She showed up with soldiers and sailors in uniform as her *can’t think of the damn word, brain fart* Ummmm…OH, escorts is the word. LOL

    • I think it’s a question of appropriate attire. You running around in a bathing suit by your swimming pool is totally appropriate, as is an employee at Disney World dressed in an obvious costume meant to resemble a Disney character. However, I doubt if you’d run over to the grocery store with just a shirt thrown over your bikini, no matter how hot it was outside. It’s not all about sex or sexuality.

      • Yeah, I see your point. Though when I lived a block off the beach on an island it wasn’t uncommon to see people in the grocery store with a shirt over their bikini. You are right, it’s context.

        But she’s not wearing a bikini there. The complaint is that her top is too low cut. Other than the low-cutness, it’s not very different from other costumes worn on that show.

        • I don’t own a tv, and I’ve only seen snippets of the show over the years, so I’ll take your word for it. Personally, I would classify this woman’s outfit as evening attire, and I wonder if she would select a similar outfit for an interview on Good Morning America, for example.

        • It also kind of occurred to me that we don’t have AC in our schools, and it gets hot. It’s not unusual to see little kids in like, tank tops or halter tops. Sure, some parents object to their kids wearing revealing clothing, but many kids inevitably do wear this stuff anyway, and as long as it comes in in very young kid sizes they will, and it seems like it’s sending a message that it’s some huge deal and it’s possibly okay to treat the kids differently because of what they’re wearing. Possibly not the best message regardless of how anyone feels about trends in children’s clothing.

  8. I assume these same people suggest putting blindfolds on infants when they’re breastfeeding… Suckle, but don’t look!

  9. “If you see a sign that says SAY NO TO CRACK, and it reminds you to pull your jeans up–you might be a redneck.” :twisted:

    • Aw, I forgot to attribute that to Jeff Foxworthy.

      I can haz “EDIT” feechur, plz? :razz:

  10. And yes, I would much rather see boobies :) than buttcracks. :(

  11. Ok, I’m gonna be crotchety here and pose an opposite view. While I think it’s a woman’s right to wear whatever she damn well pleases, I’m sorta tired of the pressure on all women to be Sexy all the time. We all gotta be yummy mummies or sexy preggers, hot secretaries, and prostitutes in the board room, we can’t just be attractive and well-dressed. And god forbid smart and competent. I have the same visceral reaction when I see the sexing up of small children with words like “cute” or “spoiled” on the bums of their sweatpants: I think, you have to be sexy when you’re 3 years old now? You want people looking at your child’s ass?

    It makes me feel like we’ve slid so far back down into the objectification of women as nothing more than sexual beings meant to seek approval. If that ain’t the patriarchy I don’t know what is. Case in point, during the election, Obama was on the cover of a magazine in a dark blue suit with a red tie; that same month, Halle Berry was on an election special of GQ or Roling stone in what was meant to be a similar suit, but it was trouser pants and a red tie, no shirt. The two magazines were side by side on the rack and were incredibly instructive.

    So while I don’t advocate “covering up for modesty” I do believe that Katy and her stylists felt the overwhelming pressure that we all do, so they chose an outfit to make her look sexy when they could have chosen something that just made her look pretty and might have been better for the setting. I don’t wear my night club clothes to the office because I know it’s not appropriate. That’s all.

    And while I’m on the soapbox, because the whole game of judging women these days is HOT or NOT, it spills over into so many other areas. Women are still seeking approval, whether it be playing with the blogger boyz or sucking up to CEOs, or calling the woman who questioned Obama the other day fat, or spitting on the best candidate because she wears pants suits then calling a very attractive candidate a bimbo barbie, or on and on. It’s a way to shame and control. I just wish we would stop buying into it.

    • Outis makes some legitimate points.

    • Amen! Great rant. ITA.

    • Yea, Outis!
      That pretty much nails it.

    • Can we just agree there is a time and place for sexy outfits and maybe an entertainer can get away with it when singing a duet with Elmo? I mean, she’s cute but she’s no Dolly Parton. There’s nothing wrong with skin in moderation.

    • I don’t know why they invited Perry in the first place. Aren’t there better role models out there for kids anymore? I’m not offended by her cleavage on Sesame Street as much as her entire career which is based on bad lip synching, bad music, and selling sex in both her music videos and her public appearances. She’s just another untalented pop star making millions because of her cleavage and skin baring outfits. This is apparently what makes you famous today. Do something to change the world and barely get noticed. Leak a sex tape or parade around half naked in a music video and make millions. There are better role models for our girls out there.

      • I don’t know why. I guess Maria Von Trapp was unavailable.
        Jeez, does every interaction with kids have to have a moral? How utterly boring is that? Teen idols come and go. Sex is a part of who we are as human beings. I think we are assuming that sexuality will automatically lead to disrespect. It doesn’t have to. You can look but not touch, admire without taking advantage, appreciate without being crude.

      • She’s not claiming to be a role model. sesame street is a show that tries to teach kids to read and count in a fun way. They ask popular stars that kids know to try and hold their attention. Why is she any worse than Ben Stiller? Most of our pop culture sucks.

    • Personally, I totally agree with most of what you say, except for the part about Katy. I highly, highly doubt she made a conscious decision that she needed to look sexy for Elmo. It seems more likely that she wasn’t really focusing on what to wear and just went for what for her is a pretty normal look. I also really doubt that she would have stomped off the set never to return if SS asked her to change. Ultimately, the show is responsible for what gets filmed. If they thought it was inappropriate, they could and should have done something about it. The error is judgment, if there is one, is theirs, not hers.

      Basically, it’s like she’s been submitted to the inevitable game of hot or not, she’s been judged too hot, and now she’s being slut shamed up the wazoo and all of these parents are using her wardrobe as an
      indication of her poor moral character and so
      on.

      • And SS issued a statement about how they use parodies and everything in on two levels, for the kids and so adults watching with can also be amused. Which kinda makes it sound like they were trying to do a video parody and the wardrobe was a consciously chosen part of that, not something Katy Perry insisted on despite their stringent objections.

        • They mentioned this on morning news so I asked my kids what they think. The 13yo missed the actual video excerpt they showed but she said people should wear appropriate clothes for a kid show (can you tell they have a school dress code).
          The 9yo said maybe Perry didn’t pick her clothes.
          We all agreed that whatever the case, the producers should have decided ahead of time what was appropriate rather than have her film it then yank it.

  12. Here’s the evil, evil segment. It’s soooo horrible, please take care while viewing (yes, that’s a snark):

  13. Geez, first Bert and Ernie, and now Elmo’s eyes aren’t staying above the neckline.

    Such poor examples being set.

  14. You think that’s bad, here’s some really evil violent stuff from Carlo Jonzi:

  15. I know this comment won’t go anywhere but, you have this post – http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/body-parts-as-bill-boards/ – complaining about the sexualization of women, but don’t care about the same thing on Sesame Street?

    • The premise of your comment is invalid because your facts are wrong.

      I don’t have a post complaining about the sexualization of women.

      I am not BostonBoomer and she is not me.

      Thanks for playing though, and Rico has some nice parting gifts for you.

      Come back and visit when you have a clue.

  16. I thought the segment was cute.

    Then again the morality police and what not would not approve of some of my attire. My position is that if you don’t want to look at my breasts that you can always adjust your eyes. I’m wearing what I find comfortable.

  17. Isn’t this what feminist are always frustrated about the sexual objectification of women and girls. Isn’t this what feminist are always complaining about. If this doesn’t fall under sexual objectification, then what does? Yes the video was not overtly sexual at all but Perry is just one of the female celebrities who think sexual objectification is just cool. I mean girls are really learning at a young age that being sexy for the boys is more important than being smart.

    Oh and myiq, sometimes the comments here about you being sexist could just be from those who are just learning about feminism, those who never even thought about sexism, those who used to laugh at sexist jokes without even realizing it. Maybe the commentators who call you sexist really do/did think something you stated was sexist and wanted to comment and wait and see the response from others and learn. Hey I am sure there are a lot of newbie feminist who visit this blog.

    • Some people seem to think that sexism is anything having to do with sex.

    • Yes the video was not overtly sexual at all but Perry is just one of the female celebrities who think sexual objectification is just cool

      Valid point, as I can recall one artist in the eighties who’s first target was young kids who dressed like her and was I ever thankful to see the Kids On The Block show up. It was better having someone say ‘please buy tickets to the KOTB’ than for the other artist who’s name I won’t place here due to her religious insensitivity. Yes, I am still boycotting that artist, I believe in Free Speech/Expression and I also believe I don’t have to listen, buy or promote their work.

    • Wow!

      I have listened to her songs and never realised she was brainwashing me.

      At last I have a reason to explain why I hate bras and in general don’t overly care for turtlenecks. It was all the MTV.

      (tongue in cheek)

      Believe it or not, you can wear a short skirt and have it be simply because you prefer a short skirt. It really doesn’t always have to be about looking “sexy” for the boys. Perhaps this is just how Perry likes to dress. It’s her style. I really don’t like that people assume women act some certain way because they are “programmed to.” It doesn’t strike me as very feminist to assume because someone likes makeup and doesn’t wear birkenstocks that they must be programmed.

  18. I have always wondered what about the looney tunes was sexist. I have seen this being mentioned on feminist sites but I just never asked there. I did not watch a lot of looney tunes and I don’t remember much of what I watched.

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