I had to laugh yesterday when I read this article in USA Today: Nuclear blast victims would have to wait
The White House has warned state and local governments not to expect a “significant federal response” at the scene of a terrorist nuclear attack for 24 to 72 hours after the blast, according to a planning guide.
President Obama told delegates from 47 nations at the Nuclear Security Summit on Tuesday that it would be a “catastrophe for the world” if al-Qaeda or another terrorist group got a nuclear device, because so many lives would be lost and it would be so hard to mitigate damage from the blast.
A 10-kiloton nuclear explosion would level buildings within half a mile of ground zero, generate 900-mph winds, bathe the landscape with radiation and produce a plume of fallout that would drift for hundreds of miles, the guide says.
Well that would certainly make Hurricane Katrina look like a walk in the park, now wouldn’t it? It’s nice to know that I’ll be on my own if a nuke goes off somewhere around here. According to Irwin Redlener of Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health, an “expert” quoted in the above article, local governments won’t be much help either.
“There isn’t a single American city, in my estimation, that has sufficient plans for a nuclear terrorist event”….
The message for families is simple, he says: Stay put. Wait for instructions. If you’ve been outside, dust off, change, shower. “What citizens need to know fits on a wallet-sized card,”
Oh. Okay, I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks, pal.
The Homeland Security planning guide is posted here (PDF) if you want to take a look.
Okay, so we’re completely unprepared for nuclear terrorism. But how big a threat is this anyway? This article lists “5 scary scenarios” for what we could be facing. This one is my personal favorite:
Terrorists attack a nuclear facility: After the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, U.S. officials admitted they had never considered the prospect of an attack using commercial airliners on nuclear facilities. Now the Nuclear Regulatory Commission says the nation’s nuclear power plants are secure from attack, but at least one former intelligence official claims that’s not the case. Charles Faddis, a retired CIA official who reviewed nuclear plant security around the country, recently concluded that the facilities were woefully unprepared for a terrorist attack. “A full-scale meltdown of a major reactor would be catastrophic,” he warned. “Such an incident at the Indian Point Plant in New York state, for instance, would likely render large parts of the metropolitan New York City area uninhabitable for decades and likely kill tens of thousands.”
Great. The terrorists wouldn’t even need any plutonium–just airplanes. But what is the real risk of terrorists getting their hands on fissionable material and setting off a homemade or stolen bomb? According to William Pfaff:
As for the threat that President Obama described in calling this meeting, that terrorists would obtain nuclear weapons, this seems to me extremely unlikely, if only because no government possessing these weapons would imagine giving such power to terrorists, or allowing weapons to be stolen. The world would hold them, not the terrorists responsible for what followed, and they would themselves become the victim of retaliation.
The Christian Science Monitor says there is a lot of “loose nuclear material” around the world.
The nations of the world together have about 1.6 million kilograms of highly enriched uranium (HEU) and about 500,000 kilograms of plutonium, according to data compiled by Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Security….
Fissile material is held at hundreds of locations, with varying levels of security. There are more than 130 research reactors alone that are powered by HEU, some of them in developing or transitional countries, notes the Belfer Center.
Vietnam, for instance, has at least 5 kilograms of HEU, according to a list compiled by the Institute for Science and International Security. Jamaica has a kilogram. So does Ghana.
Okay, that’s pretty creepy. I don’t know why I’m not more terrified. Maybe it’s because there really isn’t anything I can do to keep from being blown up by a terrorist nuke. And I don’t have a lot of faith in the U.S. government doing a lot to prevent it either.
You know, I can tell you some things that seem a lot more terrifying to me than these far-fetched nuclear scenarios:
How about this?
Unemployment likely to remain high for two more years, IMF predicts
Economic recovery will do little to bring down unemployment rates in Europe, the United States and other developed countries for nearly two more years, the International Monetary Fund projected Wednesday in a report that highlighted the lingering challenges of the worst recession in decades.
Releasing what IMF officials called a “somber” forecast, the agency said government stimulus and other policies remain needed to offset slow private job creation — evidence of the dilemma policymakers face as they decide whether trimming high government deficits outweighs the risk of undermining employment even further if public programs are cut.
And this?
WSJ: Number of Households Getting Mortgage Relief Levels Off
On Wednesday, a congressional watchdog panel criticized the foreclosure-prevention program’s progress in a report, saying the Treasury is still struggling to get its program off the ground. It also warned that many households that are helped in the short-term may default again later.
The Obama administration has argued that HAMP is working. But the number of people being helped is “modest” in comparison with the scale of the problem, said Elizabeth Warren, the panel’s chairwoman. She conceded, however, that it was unclear how many foreclosures the government should try to prevent, given that many households are in homes that they can’t afford.
Even after HAMP modifications, many borrowers struggle with their overall debt loads, including car loans and credit-card bills. The median share of gross income devoted to debt payments is 61% for people who have had HAMP modifications, the Treasury said.
And this?
Panel: Foreclosure Prevention Program Isn’t Working
The Congressional Oversight Panel, which was tasked with evaluating the federal foreclosure mitigation program, has found that the Making Home Affordable plan has done little to help individual homeowners and, in many cases, has just prolonged their pain….
…the panel says that the program’s results demonstrate that reducing mortgage payments is not a sufficient solution for many homeowners. Even after securing loan modifications — which fewer than 200,000 families have done, at last count — large numbers of homeowners are still struggling to make payments. Meanwhile, if a house was under water before the modification, it will still be under water after a modification, assuming the outstanding principal on the loan is not reduced.
So why is the Obama administration so busy hyping nuclear terrorism when the Congress can’t even pass an unemployment benefits extension?
Could this be what they are really worried about?
If the Democratic party has any chance of staunching a bloodbath in the 2010 midterm elections, it needs to show voters signs of an improving economy. Specifically, it needs falling unemployment and some significant job creation. But according to the International Monetary Fund, that’s not going to happen any time soon – and certainly not before November.
Hey Barack, your nuclear distraction isn’t working for me…
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This is what a Nobel Peace Prize Winner does … between this and my drone wars items, I’d see a lot of folks should go CODE PINK.
George Orwell would be so proud.
Good one!
Why? War worked for Bush, right? In the 2002 mid-terms?
What excuse did they give for this delayed response? Ready on Day Three–nuclear apocalypse only.
Have you noticed that all these policies seemed to be still in a becoming state? I was thinking about that today. He really had no platform on any of these things and now we’re beginning to find out what he’s going to do AFTER he’s elected. That seems pretty back assward to me.
“Good thing we had a plan, otherwise that bomb could have caused a lot of damage” – Ho Lee Shitt, Mayor of Hiroshima
Duck and cover!!! Duct tape and plastic!
We designate three “really important” cities, then blow the entire federal budget building impenetrable giant school desks for them to hide under.
There’s still some old Nuke shelters leftover from the 50s down here under the street car lines. l understand they still have blankets and the old K rations.
I think we had one in the basement of my school. That canned stuff doesn’t last forever, we should sell it on eBay and use the money to reprovision. Don’t scrimp on the Spaghttios.
If someone detonated a nuke in my home town, what to do afterward would be someone else’s problem.
My worries would be over.
with my luck, I’d survive and Tina Turner would show up in some wild costumer with a motorcycle and some freak on a leash
That’s NOLA for ya.
well, as long as the freak wasn’t Mel Gibson it would be NOLA
I like the instructions to “brush off and shower.”
‘Cause running water is never a problem after a nuclear blast.
*****A
Yes because that worked so well for the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Must be an election year.
I don’t suppose any of this will blow back on Obama:
Rezko’s cash used to renovate Blagojevich home, feds say
I wonder if we’ll learn anything new when Blago goes to trial. I wonder if BO has completely cut him lose or if he’s worked out a deal with BO for silence.
(The Rezko – Michelle house deal was what convinced me that state senator Obama was corrupt.)
Yes, yes yes. And I found out how corrupt the media was because no one really reported on it, save Evelyn Pringle.
Regarding the HAMP fail, which was a personal nightmare for me last fall. (I’m still in my house! Praise Someone!!!) ….
I wonder what “plan” they’re referring to here that’s giving JPM Chase headaches? (link from original post) JPMorgan Chase Is No Fan of Latest Obama Plan to Stem Foreclosures
I know there was a bill passed lask week to help move along shortsales, which IMO do nothing to help most homeowners currently in distress, (unless you are relocating of your own volition and want to drop an underwater house without foreclosing.) The banks seemed thrilled about the faster shortsales…as they should be; it’s another government-sponsored guarantee of new customers who are waiting to scoop them up at a bargain. Unless Chase is a huge second-mortgage holder. That would connect the dots I suppose…. In that case it’s lose/lose except for the scenario where a lucky soul with one mortgage and not behind in their payments, but underwater, finds a job in a new city. Or decides mom’s basement isn’t so humiliating after all.
Broader view, anyone? I certainly have my take on this but wonder what others think….
I think there are an awful lot of HELOCs out there, belonging to homeowners that no longer have any equity. I know Chase was pushing HELOCs pretty hard in my area a couple of years ago – I’m sure they have a lot of exposure.
There’s class action suit pending against Chase for freezing existing HELOC loans arbitrarily across the board, regardless of the amount of equity.
Well, I am an xray tech and would die sooner than everyone else, so I not going to worry about it…my exposure level is already high, so WTH!
I read too that Mel Gibson broke up with girlfried and they have a 5 month old daughter…OMG…shouldn’t these guys get a vasectomy as a few years of procrating with every woman available. Doesn’t he have like 7 or 9 kids with his first wife….its time for him to cut the cords. We already have too many people on this earth.
I think I found my love connection:
Do you think he’ll mind that I’m not gay?
(of course with enough beer, I just might be)
You both have BEER as a first love!
I can’t get too excited about nuclear threats. I know it could happen for real, but I spent most of my life right next door to the Savannah River Plant (they refined plutonium for bombs) during the cold war. We were an immediate, definite target in the event of hostilities, and knew it. After you grow up and spend decades under that kind of shadow, it’s hard to be afraid of a “maybe, possibly, random” chance. I think I became immune to the fear. It will either happen or it won’t.
Of course, I don’t think President hasn’t-a-diplomatic-clue-let-me-eat-my-waffles is doing much to diminish the threat.
I growed up watching B-52′s flying low & slow overhead as they were on final approach into Castle AFB. Those Buffs came in about five minutes apart 24/7/365
Castle was a SAC base – a first-strike target. They didn’t even bother building bomb shelters for us.
So was Austin–Bergstrom AFB. Clear across town, we could hear the B-52′s revving every morning.
We live within 10 miles of a nuclear power plant. No one even sent us the KI pills.
Obama: Balance interests of Israel with other interests
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/world/middleeast/15mideast.html
So while the speaks about no response to a nuke terror attack out of one face what is Obama’s other face saying to his Wall Street cronies.
He’s saying, “Hurry up and suck up what remains of their wealth—once you have it, we’ll nuke them. Once they’re nuked, they’ll stay put, believing they’re safe in their homes, as long as they’re scrubbing themselves and taking showers. If they don’t revolt, we won’t turn off the water.”
…but I’m one of those cynical people he admonished throughout his campaign, so my surmisings can’t be taken seriosuly.
LOL You’d make a good Texan: “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.”
Don’t feel bad though….a good dose of cynicism with current master bamboozlers in the WH keeps one much saner than the koolaid slurpers.
I’m sure it’s comforting to most Americans that our state of readiness is public knowledge. International public knowledge. Although, frankly, I don’t think most Americans are paying attention.
Yeah–good thing it’s Obama, because I’m sure Mike Moore would find a doomsday scenario being painted in this much detail for no apparent reason a bit ominous otherwise.
Most probably aren’t, but more are.
Why is Obama hyping nuclear terrorism? He wants to scare the living daylights out of us … neo-con like.
He is fearmongering and getting the country ready so he can go and invade Iran.
Remember the “mushroom cloud” nonsense before they invaded Iraq? Same thing. Al qeada is the scapegoat. Still.
This is part II of the Empire wars leading to “Pax Americana.” The Obama wars are next and ongoing.
And just like Bush II Obama has the support of the mainstream media. Investigative reporters? Not in the MSM.
And just like Bush the next war will be based on lies.
Feqrmongering on and on about Al Qeada and the “terrorists” bomb comes in handy just like it has for the last 10 years. The people don’t care, the stenographers don’t investigate anymore …. and since Iran has no nuclear weapons the invasion and bombing of that country is just a matter of time. Morality and truth is dead.
btw. Mr. Obama, in case you have forgotten, what country dropped the atomic bomb on innocent citizens? Twice? It wasn’t Al qeada, it was America. What other countries have the bomb? Because all Those are the people that scare the living daylights out of me.
Scaring the American citizen and the world with nuclear attacks.
That is what CHANGE looks like.
On the bright side, if he decides to kick it old school and start screwing around with the alerts on a regular basis–it’ll be fun to watch the paid apologists continue to twist themselves into pretzels.
Check this out:
America’s Loose Nukes in Israel
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25226.htm
….”the US must demand more than Israel’s entry into the NPT. Only by recovering all purloined nuclear materials can Obama win confidence in America’s own commitment to controlling loose nukes.”
Here’s why. It worked for G.W., and if it was good enough for The Shrub, is good enough for The One. When the polls drop and drop at home, start a war (can’t do that, with 2 perpetual wars already going on) or scare the voters with doomsday scenarios that The One hopes will make him look strong.
i have no monetary interest in the book “physics for future presidents” but i am highly recommending it. if you read the section having to do with nuclear bombs and dirty bombs, you’ll see what a crock obama is trying to pull over on us. the book is writtent by the berkeley prof who has the most popular class at cal. for a nuke you need a delivery system and a very sophisticated method of detonation. it also needs a certain min. of material. a dirty bomb on the other hand can use a traditional explosive with dirty radioactive material and therefore has a much more limited effect. after reading this book, i felt much better about terrorism and nukes/dirty bombs.
how many more crises are we going to be presented with? obama seems to have learned well from bush. everything is a crisis from global warming to health care to nuke control. does anyone remember the term “wagging the dog?” that is what i believe is going on here. and to think…we told em so….more people would prefer hillary. go figure. we’re being proven more correct all the time.
Aw, give him a break. Disintegrating skyscrapers is a hard act to follow.
*****A
I know. Did you catch those workers jumping out of the 80th floor windows. Could swear seeing a half dozen of those from my apartment window downtown. Probably just model dummies programmed to wave for their lives as they hung out the windows.
Who says the left has no credibility.
OT: Another disaffected Republican. Might as well be a Dem.
Emphasis mine. Take some advice, Ben–words like that will get you labeled as a you-know-what. I’ve got three words for you (no matter which side of the aisle you want to complain about): follow the money.
I gotta wonder what, in this guy’s mind, makes Steele somehow less qualified than such notorious bozos as who, Ken Mehlman, Haley Barbour and Lee Atwater? Lol Hell, if he wants to switch parties he can’t possibly be worse than Dean and Kaine.
I didn’t know Ben Stein was a Republican. I thought he was a libertarian. Whatever he is, he’s about as far right as you can go.
Michael Steele is a hail fellow well met type. I don’t know why he wouldn’t be qualified for party chairman.
Didn’t he work for Nixon? Ben, I mean?
Personally, if I were a Republican and could vote, I probably would have chosen Blackwell, just because he’s displayed the aptitude for dirty tricks every Repub requires.
Steele and Blackwell were by far the biggest names in the race, lots better known than the head of the Michigan GOP or the incumbent who had barely taken office.
Yes, Blackwell is more the type, I agree.
I don’t know what happened with my comment”
Felis, on April 14, 2010 at 11:54 pm Said: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
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“Said: Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
I did not mean to write that line. What does that mean?
Please help me out. What did I do wrong?
Some words trigger moderation and require that a moderator or administrator approve your comment before it appears.
“Israel” is one of those words.
thank you, myiq2xu, for explaining that comment
I hadn’t seen it before.
I love the suggestion that if you’re powdered with radioactive dust, go home, take a shower and change your clothes.
This so like the heavy-ply plastic and duct tape suggestion after 9/11 and for me, a deja vu moment: Duck and Tuck, kiddies, and maybe you won’t be turned into crispy critters. And oh, don’t look at the light. I remember that one. I was terrified I was going to have my eyeballs burned out. What did I know? I was a kid. I couldn’t get my head around being vaporized. Still can’t.
Bottom line? We’re on our own, again.
Thermonuclear War – “The only winning move is not to play”
It’s the old “terra! terra! terra!” – only this time historical, cuz they are Obama’s. Thanks for voicing my thoughts throughout this.
Sigh…
Sitting on my hands waiting for Newseum to update it’s newspapers to today.
I would like to make a point:
We had better nuclear attack reaction plans back home in Romania , under communism.
And it wasn’t duck and cover.
It figures