Good morning Conflucians!!
Mmm, doing taxes. Nothing better. Oh wait, a stick in the eye would be better. OK, lots of things would be better. Let’s see what’s happening today.
Imagine a world in which the US no longer leads, or hardly even participates in space exploration. Imagine waking up to news of amazing discoveries of new aerospace technology and basic science figured out by the new exciting Chinese (or other countries) space program. Imagine waking up to new moon landing done by someone else. Imagine watching years of progress with a moon base, people getting to mars, brand new amazing technologies in air travel and space travel and other discovered technologies because of those efforts, all by people other than the US. Imagine sitting back and watching other countries lead the way with us only occasionally invited as a tacit acknowledgement that we used to do that. Good you say. We don’t need to spend money in those areas. We should take care of our people in need instead. I won’t argue that we don’t have high priorities and people suffering, but if a group doesn’t push the envelope in science research and in leading edge exploration, then that group is not helping humankind. Yea, that’s a big presumptuous thing to say I agree. But we’re on this little rock in a vast space. Either we explore and figure out what’s out there, and frankly get ourselves spread around a bit, or we’ll go the way of the dodo bird. Here are a few things on what Obama is doing to our space program:
Neil Armstrong had this to say the other day:
President Obama’s plans for NASA could be “devastating” to the U.S. space program and “destines our nation to become one of second- or even third-rate stature,” three legendary astronauts said in a letter Tuesday.
Neil Armstrong, who rarely makes public comments, was the first human to set foot on the moon. Jim Lovell commanded the famous Apollo 13 flight, an aborted moon mission. And Apollo 17 commander Gene Cernan remains the last human to have walked on the lunar surface.
In statements e-mailed to the Associated Press and NBC, Armstrong and other astronauts took exception with Obama’s plan to cancel NASA’s return-to-the-moon program, dubbed Project Constellation.
Armstrong, in an e-mail to the AP, said he had “substantial reservations.” More than two dozen Apollo-era veterans, including Lovell and Cernan, signed another letter Monday calling the plan a “misguided proposal that forces NASA out of human space operations for the foreseeable future.”
The statements came days before Obama is to visit Kennedy Space Center on Thursday to explain his vision for NASA.
Not all former astronauts have come out against the plan. Armstrong’s crewmate Buzz Aldrin, the second man to stand on the moon, has endorsed Obama’s plan, which includes investing $6 billion to develop commercial space-taxi services for astronauts traveling to and from the International Space Station. Aldrin said the proposal will “allow us to again be pushing the boundaries to achieve new and challenging things beyond Earth.”
The plan would also extend the space station operations through 2020. It would cancel Project Constellation and the Ares rockets, which NASA has been developing for six years at a cost of more than $9 billion. Obama would retain the Constellation project’s Orion capsule. The capsule, which was to go to the moon, will instead be sent unoccupied to the International Space Station to stand by as an emergency vehicle to return astronauts home.
Administration officials told the AP that NASA will speed up development of a rocket that would have the power to blast crew and cargo far from Earth, although no destination has been chosen. The rocket would be ready to launch several years earlier than under the moon plan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to not detract from the presidential announcement.
The former astronauts said, “It appears that we will have wasted our current $10-plus-billion investment in Constellation. … Without the skill and experience that actual spacecraft operation provides, the USA is far too likely to be on a long downward slide to mediocrity.”
I agree. Of course some of us remember that during the campaign Obama actually promised to cut NASA funding. Somehow the Obots and others who just coasted along with lots of assumptions about who he was, didn’t really noticed that. And so it goes.
Obama is heading over to NASA to explain his vision:
President Obama will seek to promote his vision for the nation’s human space flight program on Thursday, just two days after three storied Apollo astronauts — including Neil Armstrong, the first human to walk on the Moon — called the new plans “devastating.”
In an announcement to be made at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, the president will personally talk for the first time about the sweeping upheaval of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s human spaceflight program outlined in his 2011 budget request: canceling the current program that is to send astronauts back to the Moon, investing in commercial companies to provide transportation to orbit and developing new space technologies.
A senior administration official said Mr. Obama would describe a vision “that unlocks our ambitions and expands our frontiers in space, ultimately meaning the challenge of sending humans to Mars.” The official spoke with administration approval, but on the condition of anonymity so that the comments would not upstage the president’s remarks.
Mr. Obama’s budget request called for the cancellation of Orion crew capsule, which was to be used to carry astronauts to the International Space Station and then to the Moon, as well as other components of the current program known as Constellation.
The president will propose that a simpler version of the Orion be used as a lifeboat for the space station. Russian Soyuz capsules currently provide that function. Because the Orion lifeboat would not carry astronauts to the space station, it could be launched on existing rockets.
You know Mr. Obama, when you put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig. As we ride on Russian rockets to get to the space station, the negative symbolism and utter sadness of that will eventually be noticed. But then it will be too late. Our programs will be mothballed. Other grand ideas you’re pushing will not happen. Why? Because you aren’t really planning on them happening. It’s all theatre. The plan is to shut it all down.
Here’s a nice bit from EETimes:
Shifting plans for U.S. human space exploration and the proposed termination of the Constellation program clearly call for a strategic plan taking us forward. Space planning takes years, and for us to be ready for what follows the retirement of the International Space Station around 2020, we need to consider a path to the next human steps in space and, eventually, to Mars.
Having a mighty goal or a series of goals embedded in the strategy will serve to organize NASA’s work and congressional fiscal priorities, since there will always be defined programmatic objectives that need funding.
Planning this strategy should involve NASA, Defense, NOAA and the intelligence community. There should be input from the administration’s National Security Council and the Office of Science and Technology Policy. This coordination is vital because decisions made by one agency can have a significant impact on investments by the aerospace industry, and may result in the loss of capabilities that other government agencies rely on. Recent decisions at NASA, for example, will result in loss and disruption of thousands of space jobs.
What might such a strategy look like? We believe it should set out long range goals for at least a generation so long term investments can be made. A strategy must address the industrial base, our current and future workforce and space’s role as critical infrastructure. And of course, the strategy must be backed with appropriate financial resources.
Despite the financial troubles that lapped at his feet, President Kennedy stepped up to the challenge and urged us forward, with a goal and a vision and a plan. This is what we need ‘ a roadmap for the future and milestones along the way. And this is what we require ‘ leadership on an issue that has helped define our nation and proclaims in clear terms that this is who we are as Americans.
Emphasis mine. It would be nice if a bold plan happened, and was implemented. Don’t hold your breath for this president to do that. It’s hard work. And as we all know, president’n is just too hard for this one.
OK, that stuff is clearly personal for me. This former NASA scientist has a few biases in that regard. So give me a little leeway on that. Your mileage may vary.
Oh brother, people are dumpster diving for Palin papers again:
Students at Cal State Stanislaus discovered evidence that documents related to an upcoming speaking engagement by Sarah Palin were shredded and dumped after the university claimed that no public documents existed, a state senator said on Tuesday.
The students appeared at a Sacramento news conference with state Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, Tuesday morning and said they found the documents on Friday in a trash bin outside the university’s administration building in Turlock.
On Tuesday afternoon, Attorney General Jerry Brown said he was launching a “broad investigation” into the alleged dumping of documents and to examine finances of the CSU Stanislaus Foundation, which is hosting the June 25 event featuring the former governor of Alaska and vice presidential candidate.
“This is not about Sarah Palin,” Brown said in a statement. “She has every right to speak at a university event…. The issues are public disclosure and financial accountability in organizations embedded in state-run universities.”
The CSU Stanislaus Foundation is a private, nonprofit entity that raises money to supplement state funding to the campus and has offices in the university’s administration building.
Among the documents found by the students outside the building were five intact pages of a contract for a “speaker” who will be traveling from Anchorage. Although the speaker is not identified by name, Yee said it is clearly Palin’s contract despite the university’s denial last week that it had any documents related to Palin’s engagement.
“I never thought I would have to relive Watergate again, but to some extent this is our little Watergate in the state of California,” said Yee, who said it was a “dark day” for the CSU system and especially CSU Stanislaus.
OK, step away from the drugs. She’s only going around giving light, fluffy speeches. She’s not in government any more. And likely won’t be again. You’re not actually going to discover any secret plans of any import. Just leave it alone.
Man oh man, we’ve been having lots of earthquake and volcano activity lately. Is it me, or does it feel like the end is nye? You’ll all be sorry we can’t just leave the planet in a space ship… OK, enough on that old chestnut already. Anyway, another earthquake, in China this time:
BEIJING — A series of strong earthquakes killed hundreds of people in western China on Wednesday, badly damaging at least two schools, shattering homes and spreading fire through a remote town high on the Tibetan plateau.
The early morning quakes hit China’s Qinghai Province, an impoverished region 1,200 miles southwest of Beijing that is inhabited mainly by ethnic Tibetans. The province borders Sichuan, where a catastrophic earthquake in 2008 killed some 80,000 people.
“I heard dogs barking and the huge rumbling sound of houses collapsing,” said Li Hailong, a local finance official in Jiegu Town, a Qinghai settlement hit hard by today’s disaster. Houses made of earth and wood, he said, “collapsed the moment the earthquake struck.”
Authorities said at least 400 people had been killed and that many more remained buried in the rubble, including some 50 people entombed in a collapsed vocational school. Thousands are reported to have been injured. Chinese television newscasters said 20 people had been pulled from the school but only three of those victims survived.
China’s Earthquake Network Center put the magnitude of the strongest quake on Wednesday at 7.1, but the U.S. Geographical Survey estimated it at 6.9. Chinese authorities reported six quakes and aftershocks during a four-hour period that started with a relatively minor quake at 5:39 a.m. (5:39 p.m. on Tuesday in Washington). The most devastating tremors came at 7:49 a.m.
Here’s another article about earthquakes:
First Haiti, then Chile, and now Mexico. Why all of a sudden do there seem to be so many earthquakes?
Actually, there are no more earthquakes happening than usual; it’s just that these three quakes happened to strike areas where a lot of people live, so we heard about them.
According to Walter Mooney, a seismologist with the U.S. Geological Survey (he’s a physicist who studies earthquakes), most earthquakes occur in remote parts of the world. “There are 14 to 17 magnitude-7 earthquakes on Earth every year,” Mooney said. “Only a few are near population centers.”
A magnitude-7 quake is big enough to do a lot of damage. But how much damage an earthquake does depends on the buildings in the area. In many earthquake-prone regions, governments require especially strong construction standards so that buildings can withstand a lot of shaking. The earthquake in Mexico earlier this month, which was also felt in Southern California, was measured at 7.2, but it did relatively little damage because of strict building standards. In Haiti, though, where few structures were well built, the magnitude-7.3 quake in January destroyed huge parts of the capital city and killed more than 200,000 people.
What’s frustrating to scientists is that they have no way to tell where an earthquake will strike next; they can only make educated guesses. “As we go for longer and longer periods of time, then the probability slowly increases” that an earthquake will happen soon in a given region, Mooney said. “But the Earth is very complicated, and we are unable to do better than giving a probability.”
OK, that’s not so much news. But hey, I’m working on my taxes. Please chime in with news your finding. What’s happening in your neck of the woods.
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I’m mailing my taxes today, coughing up funds I don’t have to a government I don’t support.
Life in America!
As far as the super-dooper rocket we’re developing to reach ports unknown–any chance we could strap this Administration to it? Personally, it breaks my heart to have the space program dismantled. We are no longer a Nation of dreams or bold initiatives.
Another earthquake. You get the feeling Mother Earth is trying to tell us something? Or hatch something? It’s starting to get a wee bit creepy.
But my fave piece of news from yesterday was a piece Uppity posted on her site about Congress stiffing itself with the Healthcare bill. If the Congressional Research Service is correct, our dear and absolutely deserving leaders have effectively left themselves “uninsured.”
Hahahaha! Now that’s poetic justice.
If they’ve left themselves uninsured, who knows what they’ve done to US.
Of course, for their own welfare, they’ll assemble a special session and change the law with 100% cooperation…
I saw the news report of the recovered shredded documents concerning Sarah Palin last night after Parenthood and I swear the music they played to push the story made it seem as if she had sold intelligence information to the Taliban or something.
Let’s be clear… students jumped into a dumpster and pieced together shredded documents hoping to find something devious. It turns out that all that was in those papers were a minor list of demands, which is typical of celebrities and famous people. All she wanted was to have a first class round-trip to and from Alaska, questions that would be submitted before the Q & A session to be prescreened, and two bottles of still water with bendable straws.
I don’t know why this particular story is bothering me, so I apologize if this sounds rant-ish. I just think this was a mondo pathetic attempt from those people.
It bothers me too, because it’s irrational PDS. I went and googled wierd celebrity requests. Palins’ was nothing in comparison.
And the pre-screened questions — very reasonable considering that the audience could be loaded up with people who want to throw tomatoes at her…
I hate her policies, but the knee-jerk hatred of her personally is nothing but the need to prevent a successfully career-ascending women. After all, we should know our place, right?
Well, since the Democratic Party sold out your reproductive rights they need a new boogieman or woman to get your vote. Also the cash they need to make up the difference from what Wall street doesn’t supply.
Exactly.
And thanks for understanding my poorly-written post. I hate it when I don’t finish my sentences….
Really? Watergate? I mean, really? Do people even hear the words that come out of their mouths anymore?
My husband has had minor (a legend in their own minds) rock bands who have a longer list of demands than that. Knowing the ridiculous cr@p some folks ask for, that list makes Palin look like quite a humble woman.
Is this “Dumpstergate?” “Shredgate?”
“Bendy-Strawgate?
Bendy-Strawgate!!!!
ROTFLMFAO! Yes. Bendy-Strawgate it is. And right on the heels of Ticklegate, no less.
hmmnnnn, watergate where the right wing investigated Clinton for losing money on a legal land deal. Yup, this is about on par with, (but not nearly to the excess of investigation) that scandal and those investigating are the only ones who look bad.
that was whitewater
Constellation was a Bush program, billions spent to prop up his ego. I’m glad they’ve trashed it, however, the 9000 or more jobs that will be lost in Florida and elsewhere is a terrible side effect. I’m hoping they can be absorbed elsewhere.
I am one of the many who have science degrees and no place to work. Pretty soon people will stop getting those degrees because wasting your money isn’t very smart. Once that happens where will we be? Innovation and technological advances will stop, our infrastructure will continue to erode, and we’ll become a has-been nation.
I agree.
Me too. Actually I’m one dreaded class away from finishing that degree. However, it doesn’t mean that blowing money on a poorly planned idea is a good choice. Read about Constellation, and you’ll see.
Q: What does a liberal arts major say to a science major after graduation?
A: You want fries with that?
Summary of the speech Obama will give at the Kennedy Space Center:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/ostp-space-conf-factsheet.pdf
Marketing literature full of distortion. All the jobs added, but who knows what really will happen? Pay-raises are considered jobs to the Obama administration!
I hate the idea of the increased private industry involvement. When has that ever been good? Now we know why he’s doing this. It’s not for the good of the country. It’s for the good of his political coffers from private industry!
But it’s not like we need RESEARCH. Just Space Tourism for bored millionaires.
It’s creating a cottage industry.
He is officially the anti JFK.
What???
Sorry, but the current crop of Democrat don’t do Bold.
Thanks to McCain (who now claims that he never called himself a maverick) we all now have to listen to her trash talk. She spends her days trash talking it is only fitting that someone found a great place for her contract. I guess some dumpster diving found it, All’s Well That Ends Well.
Great place for hopenchange posters, too.
Heh heh… Aye yup
Purgamentum innit, purgamentum exit, if you want to get intellectual about it. Some dumpster divers are indistinguishable from the rest of the stuff in the dumpster. I’d say whoever went to the trouble of sifting the trash and then pasting a shredded doc together fits that profile. (Also, perhaps, the differential diagnosis of OCD.)
Did they find any Obama speeches in there too?
It was a dumpster, not a manure spreader.
I am heartbroken about the NASA cuts too.
of course, our wars need a new pair of shoes, and Goldman Sachs too!
One thing people keep whitewashing is the population explosion. We have got to come up with ways to either contain our worldwide population, and its not possible in my opinion, or we are going to have to find new places for people to live. We are going to have to radically change the way we live. Are we going to colonize the sea, space, other planets, other star systems if we can find ways to get to them? We need to seriously start addressing these issues now or else we are going to be sitting here with 50 or 60 billion people on this planet and no way to house or feed them. And along with that comes the collateral damage to our environment and to our fellow animal inhabitants of this planet. NASA is the perfect vehicle for this. Private corporations will never be able to do this because they are in the business of making money not in the business of promoting the longevity of animal life.
The earth is going to reach it’s capacity and there will be a major epidemic that wipes out billions of people. We can’t escape it because we are not smart enough.
On the other hand, educating women is the best way to slow down population growth and in some places, to reverse it.
Those of you worried about this issue should get busy trying to make sure that all the world’s women are educated beyond HS.
Republican pollster Rasmussen:
This is another reason not to cut NASA funding — my god, let me get of the planet already if these are the choices.
I’m going to stop “considering” Costa Rica and start pricing housing.
We are considering Panama. Have friends who moved there, and they love it.
Hi! how are you feeling? We’ve missed you and hope you’re doing better!
Much better. The Lupus seems to be under control now. I’ve been browsing, but not really doing a lot of political stuff – needed a mental health break from obsessing over it all!
Yeah. I’m starting to think those Mayans were right.
We can hope…
Heh, heh…Ron Paul heads got to Rassmusen!
They are more creative (and less vicious) that B0bots.
Isn’t everyone?
So the Obama wants to cut a couple of programs we’ve got 9 billion invested into and instead:
“NASA will speed up development of a rocket that would have the power to blast crew and cargo far from Earth, although no destination has been chosen.”
that just sounds so… so… Obama.
They can call the rocket the Unicorn.
LOL
LOL
Reading about Obama’s NASA cuts reminds me of JFK and Neil Armstrong on the moon and Cronkite reporting it, and I think this Obama generation is a generation that does not dream of big things. They’re desperate for Historic! and Unprecedented!! but never about anything authentically spectacular, never about achievements that stretch us and genuinely enlarge us. Just teleprompter speeches and idiot TV shows. We fired up rockets reaching for the stars, now they dumb down on the couch to watch Dancing with the Stars.
All that other stuff is too too hard! We just want show and spectacle, not real work. That’s so boooring.
Red flag for a sinking Obama: Americans now prefer Hillary Clinton
I’m a skeptic as far as the idea of Hillary ever running for president again. But, it’s hilarious that the woman who was regarded as so unlikeable is now more likeable than all of them.
I just came over to post that too Wonk. Too damn little too late for the Kool Aid hangover kids. You feckin’ blew it and now we all have to pay. It was obvious from day one, for those of us who were not sucking on the Hopium bong.
I’m a skeptic as far as the idea of Hillary ever running for president again.
I’m not. Even though Obama has handed Republicans everything they could dream of legislation-wise, if they take over the congress they will have the power of investigation. And they’ll go after him.
HILLARY 2012
“fought and scratched” and “unsuccessfully through those bitter belligerent Democratic primaries and caucuses ” ???
Jeebus. Women just can’t be strong or they’re catty. And gee, who really did get the most popular votes in the primaries?
did you ever notice how it is only women who are polarizing?
ps…. she was the preferred democrat during the primaries too…but the media can’t tell you that, they have to keep pretending Obama actually won the nomination.
Elizabeth Warren on possible nomination to Supreme Court and on simple credit contracts/readable/easy to understand
I’d really hate to see her actually nominated to the SC – she seems to be the only person (with a soap box) challenging the status of the financial industry.
She makes good points on the credit crunch and how the credit companies/banks are making sky rocking profits, by the Old clause of you were late ‘ONE DAY’ and now your interest rate is 33%! OUCH!
If only we were spending money on people in need, instead of Goldman Sachs. My dad was an aerospace engineer and designed some of the equipment used on the Moon landing explorations. I say fund NASA and cut off GS.
“remains”? How did that bit of realistic reporting slip in?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2011603651.html
WHA????? when did Obama become a woman? How else could he be polarizing? Yowza!
Our first transprez! Another historic first!
So much for “the best healthcare in the world”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2011597893.html
Maybe the Nebraska legislature should be sent a copy of that article.
How about a hard, cold look at defense spending? That is still the untouchable number. What we spend on defense compared to every other nation in the world is flat out obscene. If you added defense and homeland security together, you could give every American health care and a nice defined benefit pension.
We are reduced to asking the Russians if our guys/gals can hitch a ride on Russian rockets? Too embarrassing for words.
The Pirate Party of Canada is official. They can officially run for elections starting June 14th. Time to load up the truck and move to can-i-da.
You can stay with my sister.
Public Policy Polling:
Great going, Democrats.
ayup.
Repeal and make it more liberal! That’s what most Americans who want HCR repealed want:
Now this is real bipartisanship (from the link above):
Yea! Some good news. Thanks.
My impression:
{{{{fingers in ears}}}}} la la la la la la la…I can’t heeeeeaaaaaar you.
Ooooh, very good impression, SoD!
Because it’s so vaguely defined as a talking point, the “PO” has been an easy way for Obama and Congress to bait-and-switch — but I’m still glad the concept of a public mechanism has stuck with the grassroots on some fundamental level.
I tell ya, I will faint if Palin is elected and passes the Public Option!
BTW: They are tightening the screws on small business credit, must be some sixth dimensional chess move that I am just not getting? Also, they are applying those crazy ‘ONE DAY LATE’ nonsense to jack up the rates and those premiums DIDN’T COME DOWN!
People get that the only way to ensure some cost controls get into the system is to enact a TRUE public option.
Mandating that we pay our money to insurance companies and hoping that they pass the huge pool increase along in reduced premiums is essentially trickle down theory. It never works.
ABC:
Huckabee is a creep.
Isn’t that why Arkansas became a state?
I wonder why some Republicans are obsessing about marrying a horse and incest????? Those aren’t thoughts that enter my mind…evah, but GOPers running for Prez and Senate sure are a BUZZY thinkin about ‘em…..makes one go hemmm!
I can’t believe he had the gall to say that. Is anyone (besides us) calling him out on it?
Yes, lots of people, thankfully.
What a knuckle dragging idiot. Why does anyone listen to him.
Maybe BO doesn’t believe the moon landing was real.
It was?