Good Morning Conflucians!! It’s Monday again.
It sounds kind of funny to call this a slow news day with everything that is going on. Of course the earthquake in Chile is still big news. Troops in Chile are trying to prevent thirsty or starving people from “looting” grocery stores in order to survive. According to the BBC story, Chile’s president is appealing for international help to feed people, but God forbid they should get any of the food that is sitting around in Chilean grocery stores.
I guess the reason it feels like a slow news day to me is that, while there are lots of depressing and even dramatic events happening around the country and the world, the people who should be making changes happen in Washington, D.C. are doing nothing except make things worse.
Last Thursday, President Obama gave his trademark “sneaky middle finger” to Republicans at his fake “health care summit.”
Or was that just his way of letting all of us ordinary Americans know what he thinks of us?
Also on Thursday, Congress reauthorized the Patriot Act, extending some provisions that were set to expire. President Obama signed the bill into law on Saturday night when his cowardly act would be least likely to be noticed. From the ACLU website:
Year-Long Extension Contains No Privacy Or Civil Liberties Safeguards
The House today passed a one-year extension of three expiring Patriot Act provisions without making much-needed changes to the overly broad surveillance bill. The provisions of the Patriot Act which were extended – the John Doe roving wiretap provision, Section 215 or the “library records” provision and the never before used “lone wolf” provision – all lack proper privacy safeguards. The Senate passed the extension by voice vote late last night.
“Congress refuses to make reforming the Patriot Act a priority and continues to punt this crucial issue down the road,” said Laura W. Murphy, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. “Once again, we have missed an opportunity to put the proper civil liberties and privacy protections into this bill. Congress should respect the rule of law and should have taken this opportunity to better protect the privacy and freedom of innocent Americans. We shouldn’t have to live under these unconstitutional provisions for another year.”
And a more to the point piece at the ACLU Blog of Rights provides a list of some of the provisions that have been extended:
Both the House and Senate had bills that would have improved the Patriot Act. The Senate bill even had the support of the White House. But instead of passing the much-needed reforms, Congress:
•Reauthorized Section 206, the “roving wiretap” provision that allows the FBI to wiretap a phone without having to provide the target’s name or even phone number. And unlike other law enforcement agencies, the FBI doesn’t even have to get permission to tap the specific phone before they tap it. The House bill would have required the government to name either the person or the place it wanted to tap.
•Reauthorized Section 6001, a.k.a. the “lone wolf” provision. Section 6001 authorizes the government to get secret surveillance orders against individuals who are not associated with any international terrorist group or foreign nation. This handy-dandy tool in the FBI’s arsenal isn’t so handy—according to the Justice Department, it’s never been used.
•Reauthorized Section 215, a.k.a. the “library provision”: Section 215 lowers the bar on the standard of proof needed to get a court order to access private info. Before Patriot, “specific and articulable facts” showing that the target of surveillance was the agent of a foreign power was required. After Patriot, Section 215 allows the FBI to only claim that the items or information sought is relevant to an investigation. That means the person being surveilled doesn’t necessarily have to be the target of the investigation or even be suspected of involvement in terrorism. (It’s called the Fourth Amendment, Congress. Read it sometime.)
In addition to the above expiring provisions that were reauthorized, sorely needed reform to the National Security Letter statute was also kicked to the curb. Under the original Patriot Act, the government can collect the records of innocent people whenever it deems them “relevant” to an investigation – without any oversight by an impartial court.
If the Patriot Act hadn’t been approved for another year, Sunday would have looked much different.
Sunday could have meant the government was no longer given permission to wiretap the phones of Americans and seize their records and property.
But since the bill was approved by Congressional Democrats earlier this week and signed into law by President Obama on Saturday, this Sunday is just another Sunday for Americans living with the Patriot Act.
From Alternet: Patriot Act 2010: As it Was Written, So it Shall Be Done
Back in 2005, then-Senator Barack Obama had this to say opposing The Patriot Act when it came up then for reauthorization: “We do not have to settle for a Patriot Act that sacrifices our liberties or our safety. We can have one that secures both.”
Throughout his entire presidential campaign, Obama often railed against the Act, criticizing it giving authorization for the Bush administration to secretly spy on U.S. citizens, illegally and unconstitutionally and with little or no judicial or congressional oversight.He pledged that he would institute “robust” checks and balances if he got elected, explicitly promising to overturn its unconstitutional sneak-and-peek provisions toward citizens not even suspected of a crime. “Warrantless surveillance of American citizens, in defiance of FISA, is unlawful and unconstitutional,” he said.
Guess what Obots? Obama lied and you fell for it.
Yesterday some TC’ers were watching and commenting on George Soros’ interview on CNN. Here’s a summary of Soros’ pontifications at the Wall Street Journal this morning:
Billionaire investor George Soros, who helped U.S. President Barack Obama raise money for his presidential campaign in 2008, said Sunday he wasn’t happy with Mr. Obama’s handling of the financial crisis.
Mr. Soros said the government should have taken over U.S. banks instead of bailing them out, a move he suggested would have been more popular with Americans.
“The solution that he found to the financial crisis, which was to effectively bail out the banks and allow them to earn their way out of the hole, was, in my opinion, not the right solution,” Mr. Soros said in an interview with CNN. “He should have compulsorily replaced the capital that was lost.”
But, Soros points out, it won’t stop him from making money as usual–it’s just us ordinary folks that are screwed. Ho-hum….
Ordinary folks like Richard Jones.
Chicago Sun-Times: Unemployment benefits for many expire today
Richard Jones of Brookfield spent four months in Louisiana helping communities rebuild after Hurricane Katrina. Now, he needs a little help himself, but a lone U.S. senator is blocking the way.
Jones, 29, is among the 15,000 Illinoisans whose unemployment benefits expire today because of a filibuster by U.S. Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) Bunning is using Senate rules to block a vote to fund extended benefits for people nationwide who have exhausted the basic 26 weeks of coverage.
Even with an unemployment check, it has been hard to make ends meet, said Jones, a former trucking supervisor jobless since January 2009. “All my savings is gone,” he said. “If I hurt myself, I can’t even go to the doctor.”
Jones has a bachelor’s degree in urban planning, which he put to use working with a private contractor on post-Katrina rebuilding in 2005. Nowadays, he said, he has a hard time getting callbacks despite an incessant job hunt.
But who cares, right? As long as Goldman Sachs is happy, all’s right with the world.
Meanwhile, from Raw Story, Senator John Kyl (R-Arizona) defends Senator Bunning’s FU to desperate unemployed Americans.
“All Senator Bunning was saying quite correctly is it ought to be paid for,” Sen. Jon Kyl told Fox News’ Chris Wallace.
And, Raw Story reports, Senator Bunning (often rumored to be suffering from Alzheimer’s disease) responded to critics.
Republican Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) on Thursday night expressed his opposition to renewing unemployment benefits on the Senate floor with an unusually harsh message for its backers: “Tough shit.”
It’s a nightmare. But what is being done about it? Nothing much.
At Counterpunch, Clancy Sigal wonders why liberals seem to have lost the ability to fight back in anger.
Look at the mess. Evictions – I’m a child of Great Depression furniture-thrown-on-the-street – are skyrocketing. Mortgage holders are in a feeding frenzy on their hapless fellow citizens. Michelle Obama lectures us on obesity while one in eight Americans (and one in four children) are on federal food stamps. The human toll of long term, more-or-less permanent unemployment is yet to be counted as millions of Americans are pushed out of the middle class and become the “new poor” queueing up at food banks for the first time in their lives.
Those who do vent and get angry are put down as crackpots, which they sometimes are. But the so-called left seems to have joined the mainstream (and even the radical) media in under- or mis- or never-reporting what’s actually happening in the lives of so many of us. Like Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic party establishment we’ve forfeited real gut language in favor of policy abstractions, the “issues” syndrome, that so easily hide an open wound. Joe Stack, who rammed his Piper Cherokee into the IRS building in Austin, Texas, murdering an IRS worker and injuring many, was one maladjusted injustice collector. But his online 3000-word suicide note, a long-repressed scream of protest, has the virtue of unminced words we are never likely to hear from anyone in Washington or a state capitol. “When the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die.”
Finally, I enjoyed this piece on the recent Killer Whale attack, also at Counterpunch.
Call him, just for now, Spartacus. He was two years old when the slavers captured him in 1982 and hauled him off to Oak Bay, near the town of Victoria, on Vancouver Island, British Columbia, in the far Canadian west. And there he met his fellow slaves, Nootka and Haida. Day after day, in slave school they learned their tricks. Day after day, they did their act for the paying customers. And then, on February 20, 1991, in the tank operated by Sealand of the Pacific, the three struck back at their captors.
Okay, not Spartacus, but an orca whale – Tillikum, the one who drowned 40-year-old Dawn Brancheau last Wednesday in the Shamu tank, at SeaWorld, Orlando, after grabbing her by her ponytail. Tillikum was caught off Iceland. Nootka and Haida, both females, were seized in the Pacific. In fact, Nootka was the third orca by that name to be bought by Sealand. The first two died within a year of their capture. At that time, enslaved orcas had a life expectancy in captivity of anywhere from one to four years. These days they do a bit better. In wild waters, orcas live to be anywhere from 30 to 60.
Free the Killer Whales!
So what are you reading this morning?
Despite all the bad news, HAVE A MARVELOUS MONDAY!!!!!
Filed under: General Tagged: | ACLU, Barack Obama, cowardly liberals, homelessness, killer whales, Patriot act, Poverty, Raw Story, Slavery, sneaky middle finger, unemployment








Reposting from the late night thread.
Interview with Loony Toon Tancredo (via memeorandum):
I read that as an endorsement of McCain/Palin for sane people. If Tancredo doesn’t like them, that’s a huge plus.
Do the bots have some algorithm for how to react to stuff like this? “If X says that Palin is not presidential and that McCain is erratic, then embrace X, unless X is Tancredo.”
Probably. I’m not sure they wouldn’t embrace Tancredo. Some seem to like Coburn and he’s as far right as any.
Blob News
oops Blog News …where is that coffee?
Wow, do you happen to know what that certain thing is that happened?
if a certain thing happened that we did not know would happen but would happen to cause happening of certain things to happen would it indeed have happened?
Maybe it’s the unknown unknown we didn’t know could happen but now we know that that still unknown known happens to have happened.
Got it?
Maybe the FBI knocked on his door with a security letter. I actually don’t think it’s that funny myself…
What is a Security Letter?
wv, you don’t want to know.
I want to know, even if wv doesn’t.
I’m going to miss Cannonfire. I couldn’t post there except very rarely and erratically because of the way his site registration works–same goes for Red Dragon’s place–but Joseph was spot-on more often than not.
WV: re: security letter–look at the section of the post on the Patriot act.
I know I’m late with this, but got to thinking about what the thing was that happened, and remembered that he’d said on more than one occasion that he’d known of blogs that were brought down due to being overwhelmed by spam messages from obots, or more likely CDers–the guys that believe collapse of the world trade center buildings was due to controlled demolition and become nasty when confronted with an opposing biew. I think that’s probably why he deleted all messages but the really nasty one–so his regular readers would know what he’d been dealing with.
I hate it that he won’t be posting anymore but feel that he probably did the only thing he could to stop it. I just hope he’s okay.
It was confusing enough when he posted that last night, but since then all the comments have been deleted on that goodbye post except a really rude one.
Hemmm…someone threatened him…maybe a FULL TIME stalker?
I don’t know what to say. I’ve been reading Cannon since the beginning. What will I do without him? I guess I’ll download some of the best posts.
How old is the blog?
Archives begin in 2004 — so if someone wanted to archive the blog, it would take oodles of space…I think.
I have no idea if it could even be done without his permission.
I do recall a former CNN reporter threatening to sue him.
I still prefer my dream for the guy…he ran off with the love of his life and he is spending time writing at the beach with his beloved dog. That is a better thought to hold and a good way to remember him.
If you all recall, he had started to connect some dots that seemed to point in the direction of Obama and perhaps Obama’s mother being CIA operatives. It was some spooky stuff.
On a day stuffed with bad news, Joseph Cannon’s abrupt departure is the worst, a big loss for all of us.
One of the things I remember Joe saying was that if his traffic fell below a certain point he would quit (his low point was far higher than my ninth tier high), though I don’t think that was the trigger since his traffic has looked awfully good of late.
I was out of town this weekend, and when I went to Mr. Cannon’s site, as I usually do first thing every morning, I was devastated to see this message. Please, if anyone knows what happened to make him stop blogging, can you let us know? If it is finances, I guess I can’t help much, but I could try to eke out a pittance each month. If it is too much commentary like the anonymous comment that he left standing (or worse), I’d volunteer to root this stuff out before he reads it, as I’m sure it wears on the soul over time. If it is a health issue, I guess I can’t do anything but wish him well. BostonBoomer, your suggestion chills me to the bone, and I hope that if nothing else, Mr. Cannon will make a statement that puts our minds at ease on that score. Despair? Boredom? PLEASE, Mr. Cannon, please say something more.
Very sad to see Joseph shut down his blog. It was one of the few remaining political blogs that I read. Did manage to go over and save his Christmas classic, “How the Bro’ Stole the Country”. Joseph, you will be missed. Be sure to come here and comment often.
I couldn’t believe it when I stopped by Cannonfire this morning. Very sad news.
Joe, if you read this, I just want to say that I hope you are well. I’m gonna go with WV and imagine that you won the lottery and have run off to your own private island with the love of your life. Take care and I hope you come back some day in the near future. I may have strongly disagreed with you on some issues but I always enjoyed and appreciated your insight.
I have a spooky sense it’s a legal thing. Sounds like he’s got a week to wrap things up…then lock down. Brrrrr! Whatever it is, wtf’s the matter with that thug over at Corrente calling him a “drama queen”? Mockery is the national sport.
That’s really shocking.
That moron flipped off both Hillary and McCain (there are many videos on YouTube of both instances). Such an immature, flat-out creepy person.
Yes, when he isn’t using it to send his thoughts to opponents, he’s using it to guide the one next to it up his nose.
The dems can jump on Bunning as the typical republican not caring about the middle class or the struggling in this country. They should be all over this because frankly that is how the republicans are.
As for health care it won’t mean much without a public option, just a big give away to health insurance companies while the regular folks get some crumbs.
BTW, is there a ban on capturing orcas in the wild? It would be better to go for an international ban on capturing these animals versus setting the ones in captivity free. Remember “Free Willy” died. I have no idea how these animals may fend for themselves once freed into the wild. Some of these orcas have been born in captivity.
I’d rather die free than live for years as a slave. The article says they don’t last long in captivity–50 to 60 years in the wild.
Besides the three mentioned in the article were captured in the wild.
Vale mas morir a pie que vivir a rodillas–or the foot- and knee-less equivalent.
Reid was only looking at doing a 2 week extension for unemployment benefits in any case. That was going to screw millions. What Bunning did was just somewhat worse.
Reid’s bill was a patch to give them two weeks to do a longer extension. Where Reid’s at fault is in leaving this bill till the last minute. This fight, if there were going to be a fight, should have happened early last month and be over by now.
Bunning’s insane antics have also gotten 2000 people laid off at DOT. Way to go.
Why did the swine need a patch? They have known this was coming for months. Can none of them play this game? Bullshit!
Obama’s Big Health Insurance Parasites Proft Protection Plan (BHIP-PPP):
Health Insurance Corporations BAILOUT
With the people mandated to buy from them. enforced by the IRS:.
Corporate SHAKEDOWNS with Government Muscle
And, now, Pelosi is rolling over for this mess — the Dems’ Suicide Pact.
I really did fear Obama would destroy the Democratic Party’s brand image; I never dreamed he would succeed so quickly.
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I think he’ll be much happier with Repubs in power, so he can play out his St. Ronnie Resurrected fantasies.
Oh, yes, I am indeed very angry, disappointed, and depressed at losing my political party to the Corporatists.
I saw Pelosi on TV saying that the Stupak amendment would not change anything, that no women would be any less likely to be able to get an abortion than before.
Is she stupid or lying?
or just a stupid liar?
Soros? I saw a recent headline where he’s made a bundle from the recent crisis – I’ll find it.
meanwhile, from the old country traditions, it’s Happy Martisor!
What’s that? see here
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/happy-march-first-martisor/
Chestita Baba Marta!
Martisor Fericit si tie, edge! N-am stiut ca ai origini romanesti
Bostonboomer
I understand you would rather die free than live as a slave. But we are talking about a highly intelligent and socially complex animal of another species. “Setting them Free” may bring about their death sooner rather than later. Placing a captive or domestically bred whale into the ocean to fend for itself is not being free..it is cruel. There is no difference is doing that than there is placing your dog or cat into the wild because it is now “free”.
yup, they can not learn to hunt and they die. The best idea would be to stop the breeding and capture from now on unless, just as a means of preserving the species they can be helped to breed and contained in netted in square mile sea spaces.
Oh, I don’t know. If the Elsa the lioness could do it, they can do it.
Found the Soros article. It’s from today’s UK mail and it’s titled
Man who broke the Bank of England, George Soros, ‘at centre of hedge funds plot to cash in on fall of the euro’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1253791/Is-man-broke-Bank-England-George-Soros-centre-hedge-funds-betting-crisis-hit-euro.html#ixzz0gwC8iWD6
What was the definition of chutzpa?
“Jones, 29, is among the 15,000 Illinoisans whose unemployment benefits expire today because of a filibuster by U.S. Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) Bunning is using Senate rules to block a vote to fund extended benefits for people nationwide who have exhausted the basic 26 weeks of coverage.”
Could it be this is the act of a patriot?
A few months ago I read, right here on this blog I think, about a person who compared the figures in the published budget (what is actually spent, and must be accounted for) for unemployment compensation with the published unemployment numbers using the median, I think, compensation amount. The person reported the coefficient of determination was less then one till a few years ago but now his figures showed it is over 30. The person proposed that unemployment was much greater then reported and that is why democrats will never let funding run out, and if we ever find out the true figures, there will be hell to pay.
I hate to see people suffer, there are two unemployed in my family, and they are both staying with me temporarily, so don’t write me off as hard hearted. But something is needed to wake up the American people to the lies we are being told. I remember that post so well because I told my two, both over 50, family members to just consider their unemployment compensation as their pensions.
Yesterday on one of those Sundays shows there was a discussion, Cooke Roberts was one of the people, as I watched them speak, where they looked when they spoke, how they tilted their heads as they spoke I got such a feeling that they were all lying and they all knew it and they all were acting their parts.
It is not the act of a patriot.
It’s the act of a cruel, selfish, little, little man.
Heard about this on NPR this morning driving to campus. SCOTUS has another important decision re corporate officers and racketeering
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/business/14enron.html
So Scalia is going to bat for Jeffrey Skilling. That’ll make a nice headline. Regardless of whether the law is inadequate, why conflate it with Enron for God’s sake. Here’s the language.
In Skilling’s case, SCOTUS will determine if below is permissible in the context of above. Do the terms “defraud” or “deceive” no longer have meaning for the Court.
If this were a blue collar case, Skilling would not be heard by the Supreme Court. The Roberts Court has already overturned two decisions relating to Enron. If Skilling also wins, does he get a new trial, significantly reduced sentence so he walks in a few years. Is Sarbanes-Oxley next for the chopping block. He was the CEO who designed and led the fraud, not just followed direction. Relief for Skilling against backdrop of what’s happening now on Wall Street…guess we’ll all get the message.
Dubya would’ve appointed Mussolini’s dead body to that court if he could … SCOTUS is filled with fascists now.
Does anyone else here find the look on O’s face the the ‘sneaky middle finger photo” to be disturbing? WTF is he thinking?
If you watched the entire summit (I watched most of it), he made a lot of peevish faces. Even CNN’s Candy Crowley did a montage and said he shouldn’t play poker.
Daily Beast lures Hillary Clinton to help kick off its “Women in the World” summit next week.
I see Mika Brzezinski on the list of leaders. She doesn’t merit an invitation.
Jesse’s Café Américain:
More from Jesse’s Café Américain:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0b9d6902-2310-11df-a25f-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1
Yeah, that Cannonfire post really shook me up. He’s one of my favorite bloggers (was, I guess) and I wonder what the heck is up. As lambert noted, Cannon was a big debunker of conspiracy theories and this departure sounds like a huge conspiracy theory on its own…have no idea what happened here but it worries me.
I think if it was anything more serious than a personal limit he imposed, the site would have simply disappeared without a week to allow downloading.
Found this limerick about Obama and the Summit yesterday over at Mad Kane’s Political Madness blog:
Lots more at her site. (My emphasis above)
Wonderful
Saw you quote that on corrente yesterday too. Both times it made me smile!
ABC’s The Note:
Politico:
New kinda politics. Transformative. Sounds like a real progressive realignment is afoot.
And taking time away from a serious and committed strategy for JOBS. They can’t focus.
Anderson Cooper Said to Meet With CBS News Executives.
Another barrier broken? But I suppose there have been gay news anchors before.
I’m a bit sorry for Katie, if she’s really going. She broke a barrier. She also helped make Jeff Zucker when she was at NBC, though I’ll be happy to see him go. Good for Anderson if he gets the gig – needs to get past the CNN cheerleading of Obama and stick to real news.
he’s not really out or is he? I’ve never seen him say so…
he is not but everybody knows anyway
so if he’s not out…then no barrier broken.
I know him. He’s not exactly in the closet because he’s always surrounded by an entourage of very out young men. He just doesn’t talk about it. He’s not an activist but he doesn’t hide it, so I’m never quite sure exactly how many toes are still in and how many are out of the closet. But, believe me, when he’s down here, you know he’s gay and he talks about his dog alot as well as his live in companion or he did the last time I talked to him.
Which is exactly as it should be. Why should any person be expected to declare their sexual preferences to anyone other than the person they wish to be sexual with?
Our society is so darned busy labeling people, they restrict the richness of their own lives. Heaven forbid that I were to decide any person with differences from me would need to stay away from my life…what a dreary world I’d be in.
Krugman:
If Paul wants real financial reform, he should call for Congress and the Aministration to give more power to Elizabeth Warren. Instead her power’s been undercut, the Consumer Protection Agency is being scrapped. But Paul rarely mentions Warren…maybe it’s professional competition. He’s a Nobel Prize winner with a part time job at a newspaper. He probably wouldn’t mind a higher profile job in the Administration.
James Kwak of Baseline Scenario has a write up about the article. He pretty much shares Krugman’s sentiment:
Krugman: No Bill Is Better Than a Weak Bill
Why he difference, Paul? HCR is “imperfect” by making things worse, just like the financial reform. Why would we trust anyone to improve anything at this point? Krugman has lost any semblance of logic or consistency.
Warren Buffett says scrap the health care bill and start over.
Not a big fan of Warren these days, but he’s kind of right. Healthcare reform was always first and foremost about reducing costs because the future trajectory looks scary. But Congress and the Admin continue to package and sell the bill politically as a net win for everybody. Only a few like Kucinich speak about it honestly. Better to start over and begin disassembling the private insurance industry in stages.
Just saw this in the Times. Clearly meant to pressure legislators but probably not inaccurate. The Cost of Doing Nothing on Health Care
Actually there are a bunch of top health-care economists of all stripes who signed a letter urgent Congress to pass the bill, although it’s far from their ideal.
As for “starting the legislation over”, I’m always reminded of UHC 1994:
GOP Presses for Delay in Health Reform Action
And then there was this:
This is really deja vu all over again, only with the President not really fighting for a “Democratic” bill.
I suspect none of these “top economists” are on the individual market, where there is NO cost control from this bill.
The bill should be scrapped.
Of course there is, but not as well as we would like it. Still better that the current path.
: That does that mean?
Probably means you’re still selling a POS plan you will not have to use.
What cost control is in the bill? Please point it out.
There is no meaningful cost control in the senate bill. You think mandates will provide cost controls? Have you ever looked at Enron. Trusting insurance companies to lower rates because more “healthy” people are in the system is a freaking laugher. Corporations do not do the right thing. They do the money-making thing.
So mandates are the main cost control that people-who-won’t-be-affected-by-the bill often taut (I’m sure that includes you). What other cost controls could there be.
If you ask either Warren Buffet or ME, there are NO cost controls.
Maybe the difference now is that 80 million boomers will begin retiring this year for the next 18 years. Regardless of solution, the steep trajectory of aggregate cost of care is the same. The challenge is managing the cost to the individual while providing universal coverage, supporting providers and essential healthcare services, and keeping the government solvent. Single payer would seem inevitable.
(above) . the aggregate cost of actual care, not price of care.
This is Marc Thiessen from the right on the politics of the healthcare legislation.
Though in the end, it’s a Republican lite bill. Maybe it’ll be Repubs in the House and Senate who will help Nancy and Harry pass it.
Sssst! Don’t tell that to anyone! GOP is on the record as opposing it, they’ll make hey of that when people realize what those mandates are.
I don’t know why they are acting like getting single payer through is so hard. All you need to do is.
Step one: order the justice department to do a thorough investigation of the insurance industry.
Step two: get convictions throughout the country and encourage civil suites with heavy fines.
Step three: spread rumors around washington that the insurance industry executives were turning in the politicians they had bribed to save themselves.
Step four: Hint that the politicians who vote for single payer wont be
investigated as hard.
Of course this would require a completely different president, but so does every other solution I can think of.
scrap this crap start over from scratch..
Obama’s Drop
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/obamas-drop.html
RalphB,
I’m not selling any bill. I’m grappling with the fact that “starting over” is just the same type of sabotage I heard in 1994.
I don’t know everything that’s in the bill and neither do you. I just look for a rational way to consider what is in front of us.
I get my clues from all the people I’ve been reading on healthcare matters starting in 1994, whether they are for the bill or against it.
I’m not a health-care economist but there are a lot of scholars among the signers I have an enormous amount of respect for.
Health Economists Urge Passage of Reform
mablue, I realize you aren’t selling the thing but I just don’t buy into the theories of the “health care economists”. That is particularly true of Aaron, Cutler, and Paul Krugman’s colleague at Princeton Uwe Reinhardt. If they were correct, we would be OK now since in the ’90s they pushed the HMO Managed Care solution which worked so poorly as the only true answer. Even though that had lousy outcomes, they have not changed their stripes. Whether they are corrupt or just wedded to their theories I neither know nor care, I believe they are wrong.
With the boomers retiring, the only change I see being really viable is single payer, specifically Medicare for All with a Private Option. The doctors at PNHP are the authority I look to for guidance.
I simply do not buy that “starting over” with single payer on the table is the equal to the mess in ’94. If anything I think it’s the only chance we have of achieving the full blown reform we need. Once Congress passes something, we are done for a very long time. If it’s not viable, we’re well and truly screwed. Starting over gives us a chance to do it right. It may not be much of a chance but it’s probably the only one we have left.
SPAMMY!!!
LEMME OUT THIS INSTANT!!!
Help, spammy has me now.
Here’s a good visualization of the 800 billion stimulus, where and how much has been spent.
I have stills from when he gave Hillary the finger.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
The video clip you have of him doing the same to McCain was one I hadn’t seen before. However, I DID see a more obvious time when he certainly did give McCain the cheek scratch with that nasty smirk he used on the Hillary flip off.
This is a regular gesture for him. It’s these types of things he does that make me not like him. I could be unhappy that he is our inexperienced POTUS during these stressful times without disliking him, but he makes that impossible with his immature behavior.
Dear Mr. Cannon,
Now who’s going to explain to me what’s going on?
I really hope you’re OK and that things go well for you. I join many others in my desolation at your departure.
Best of luck in everything, my friend. Come back soon if you possibly can.
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