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Dennis Cardoza (DINO-CA)

Dennis Cardoza (DINO-CA)


The La La Land Times:

Reporting from Washington – As President Obama’s approval ratings sag and the mood of voters sours, some Democratic congressional candidates are distancing themselves from the White House, with the back-channel blessing of party officials.

The candidates are positioning themselves as independent voices no less frustrated with the Obama administration than people back home.

Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents a California Central Valley district burdened by high unemployment and home foreclosures, said in an interview: “The Obama administration has failed miserably in trying to solve the problem.”

That’s my blue dog congresscritter they’re talking about:

Cardoza is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition, which is sitting on the fence on health-care reform at the moment. His district, ours, was reported last week by the San Francisco Chronicle to have the highest number of uninsured people of any congressional district in the country. The district’s median household income, according to 2007 figures, is a little more than $34,000, putting our district at about the median for the top Blue Dog Coalition leaders. It is nearly identical to the 3rd CD of Louisiana, which, outside of New Orleans, bore the brunt of Hurricane Katrina in that state. The national median is a little more than $50,000. Where Cardoza’s district stands out, surpassing even representative Mike Ross’ Arkansas district and Charlie Melancon’s south Louisiana district, is in the poverty rate: Cardoza’s district’s poverty level was 22.7 in 2007. Ross and Melancon’s, high by Blue Dog standards, are about 18 percent. In 2007, the national average poverty level was 12.5 percent.

(Dennis decided not to hold any town hall meetings last summer.)

Around here the housing bubble didn’t just pop, it exploded. There are hundreds of vacant houses here, several within 2-3 blocks of my home.

My brother-in-law is a realtor and he says there are twice as many foreclosed homes just sitting there empty as there are on the market because the banks don’t want make prices go any lower than they already are. Not only that but as long as the houses don’t sell they can keep them on their books at the value they were appraised at when the now-foreclosed loan was made.

My neighbors across the street spent the weekend moving out of their 4 bedroom/2 bath tract home they had lived in for 15 years because the wife lost her job and the husbnd’s income wasn’t enough to meet the mortgage payments, especially in a house that is now worth $100K less than they owe. Yes, they have kids.

Do y’all recall the first time I mentioned Dennis?:

Today, United States Congressman Jim Costa (CA-20) and United States Congressman Dennis Cardoza endorsed Barack Obama for president. Congressman Cardoza previously supported Senator Hillary Clinton.

[...]

Congressman Cardoza said, “This is the most important election of my lifetime. While I continue to greatly respect and admire Senator Clinton and feel she has made history with her campaign, I believe that Senator Obama will inevitably be our party’s nominee for President. He has proven himself to be a thoughtful, knowledgeable, and inspirational leader and will take America in a new direction, which we desperately need.

[...]

“I am deeply concerned about the contentious primary campaign and controversy surrounding the seating of delegates from Florida and Michigan – two states Democrats need to win in November. I will not support changing the rules in the fourth quarter of this contest through some convoluted DNC rules committee process. Yet, we must find a resolution to seat the Michigan and Florida delegates so these states’ voters are represented at the Convention. I believe we need to avoid this potentially divisive situation by uniting behind one nominee and bringing the party together immediately. Therefore, I have made the decision to support Senator Obama at the Democratic Convention in my role as a super delegate.”



145 Responses

  1. Video explains why the mortgage companies make money on foreclosures…call congress today!

    Think Big Work Small explains how banks are making big MONEY on Foreclosures.
    http://www.thinkbigworksmall.com/mypage/player/tbws/23088/1373039

    • On the Saturday morning news and views post at 3:90pm I posted another video from that site. I got it in an e-mail. How the gov guarantees help the bank and screw the taxpayer.
      i am at work and can not bring it up here.

      WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

      PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

      • Be careful about using your email at work!
        Just heard about someone I know getting fired because of it!!!!!!!

    • Here’s thd youtube

      • Incredible.

      • Help me out here…I’m scouring my brain for an historical precedent for what regular people can do in a situation like this and the only example I can drum up is the French Revolution.

        • By this video it would seem that the TARP didn’t help the people save their homes, it seems it helped the banks make money while still screwing the people via the notes they signed.

          I know a woman who sold a home in the divorce process and is now holding a note of 125K in a short sale, where the bank made money via the FDIC and not both of them will go into bankruptcy.

          Congress has got to wake up and see what is going on out in the real world and stop attending all those parties.

      • Yeah, I posted that last week when I got it through an email from a friend in WA.

        • Yup, I remembered and Wonk The Vote found the video on youtube and it is going to get worse because congress is not paying attention to what is happening.

          • You think it’s that they aren’t paying attention??

            I’m thinking they are being paid so much by the corporations they have put conscience aside and just don’t care.

  2. The Mortgage Meltdown (Scott Pelley reports on the mortgage crisis that’s far from over, with a second wave of expected defaults on the way that could deepen the bottom of the U.S. recession.

    • What do you know about Option Arms and Altay loans, this is what’s next to fail?

      Third wave of mortgage defaults due to begin this year and continue through 2011 are Option Arms and Altay; as payments are automatically resetting to higher rates. We saw some fail last month because of a 3% rate hike, next month is the beginning of the end as rates start to climb even higher.
      Estimated – 8 million defaults in next four years.

      Wow, this is shocking, because it means property values are going to decline further, and if you hear what the video says this third wave will be closer to the great depression.

  3. 2008 – SubPrime Foreclosures
    2009 – second wave
    2010/2011 – Third wave of Altay Loans and Option Arm loans

    The third wave is going to hit some states harder than others and today was the first time really became aware of the Altay Loans and Option Arms Loans. My real estate friend kept saying months ago that the market was going to go lower, that the marks/signs of it getting better were an oddity in the market. She also knew about banks making money on foreclosures and that that is why they aren’t helping the borrower.

    Congress needs to act before this gets worse. The next 2-3 years look painful and the next crisis is an ‘Asset Bubble’ that is where folks won’t be able to make their car and other loans.

  4. Hillary won CA-18 in the primary 59%-31%

    • And how many delegates voted for her in her Roll Call Vote? Oh, yea, she didn’t get one, so those votes didn’t count. :-(

    • Where is going to working next year? His word is no good and he does not seem to understand that he represents the people of his district that voted for Hillary.
      Who will be running against him? Will that person remember who he is supposed to represent?

      WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

      PUMAS, BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

    • Hillary won CA-18 in the primary 59%-31%

      You act like that was supposed to matter. Ya can’t feed the unity pony them oats.

    • Then he should be required to bring Barky with him on the campaign trail this time around. Distance himself, my a$$.

    • Oh, don’t go “changing the rules in the fourth quarter” myiq. Remember, my Momma told me to always play by the RULZ!

      …as long as I get to decide what they are and how I can change them if it suits my selfish purposes.

    • Hillary won CA-18 in the primary 59%-31%
      Ah, so nearly 60% of CA-18 residence are racists then. /snark

      • Hillary won CA-18 in the primary 59%-31%
        Ah, so nearly 60% of CA-18 residence are racists then. /snark

        But at least they’re not sexist. /snarkier

  5. Inside Look – More Mortgage Meltdown Ahead – Bloomberg
    Interview with T2 Partners LLC Founder Whitney Tilson, Author of “More Mortgage Meltdown” [FULL INTERVIEW - 14:11] (Bloomberg News)

  6. Everyone is sleeping?

  7. Here’s a campaign song for Ds who endorsed Obama and now want to distance themselves from him:

  8. Loyalty means alot where I come from. If he could turn on Hillary just think what he could do to those who voted for him. I’ve got a Dino too, but he beat Thelma Drake to get the seat, so I’m kind of up in the air about what to do with my vote.

  9. I wrote about Obama’s rotten coattails as well, in conjunction with some B0bots mea culpas
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/please-mr-president-dont-help-me-and-mea-culp/

    • He really does suck all the oxygen from the room–cornered the fundraising machine and exhausted volunteer enthusiasm.

  10. Myiqx2: I would be interested in reading your take on the whole mess in the Central Valley over agriculture, water, environmental issues and the labor market. It seems to me that what is happening there must be a central factor in CAs economic depression and I suspect that the housing foreclosure issues are more like the icing on the cake rather than the root of the problem.

    I don’t see how the US is going to have much of a recovery until CA recovers and I don’t see how CA recovers with the depression in the Central Valley.

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  12. Currently okay financially but taking care of an unemployed brother (52) and an unemployed son (25) – both educated and previously employeed – no end in sight. Feeling blue about others who have no safety net. Hilary knew what was coming – Obama did not want to be bothered – let him eat his waffles. He is still clueless as is most of congress. Looking forward to the next election just to vote against all in office.

  13. How does this fit in? House lost to the bank down the street now has a “For Sale By Owner” sign on it???

    • They are telling lies to get more money.

    • Lender is now the owner.

      Some lenders have both in-house attorneys acting as real estate agents and their own in-house real estate agents.

      So my guess is that “FSBO” means lender wants to keep fees in house. Probably a prospective buyer will only be considered if they take out their mortgage with the current owner/lender.

      Bet they will get a real good deal. snarky snark

  14. I think that I am most amused by Nancy the Speaker in this entire debacle. She is starting to criticize her own creature and apparently directing blue dogs and other assorted breeds to run against the WH. This after the WH sent in Plouffe to take over the campaign money allotments (hey that is Nancy’s job!) and a growing suspicion that the WH wants to run against a Republican Congress in 2012 per a Politico story. Back a cheater and he will cheat you. And commercial real estate is cratering also.

  15. Thanks for the reminder of all our supposedly Democratic Turncoats. Luckily for us, the Dems and Republicans will have a meeting soon on TV so Obama can learn about them. I think I’m gonna puke.

  16. Yea, the Obama scramblers are out in full force now. Obot Supreme, EJ Dionne, is now pleading for help from Bill. Talk to the hand EJ, you idiot.

    Calling Dr. Clinton
    By E.J. Dionne

    WASHINGTON — When word went out that Bill Clinton had been rushed to the hospital, the prospect that he was in danger made me wish that President Obama had spent more time learning lessons that only Clinton can teach.

    Yes, Clinton put his presidency at risk over a sex scandal, and his infuriating moments around the 2008 South Carolina primary disheartened even his most loyal supporters.

    But Clinton remains one of the most talented politicians in our history, and it’s not simply because he feels people’s pain or speaks so well that you sit in your driveway to hear the rest of his speech when he’s on the car radio.

    Above all, he understands how hard it is to be a progressive politician at this time in history. He appreciates how difficult it is to construct a durable Democratic majority. And he knows how focused Republicans get on regaining power whenever they find themselves on the outside.

    And so before we got the happy word that Clinton was OK, I realized what a great loss it would be if he and Obama were deprived of a chance to spend significant time together comparing crises and problems. When you look at Obama’s political troubles after a year in office, it’s remarkable how much they have in common with those Clinton faced at the same juncture of his presidency.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/02/15/calling_dr_clinton.html

    • The false assumption is that Obama even CARES about progressive politics. Dionne is a doofus.

    • If this worm is turning, and it appears that he is, look for more defections among the chattering class. Once they start waxing nostalgic for Bill, the next obvious step is–well, obvious.

  17. “and his infuriating moments around the 2008 South Carolina primary disheartened even his most loyal supporters.” actually, no, no it didn’t. We knew it was bull$h*t

    • Indeed. Screw EJ Dionne–what a twisted, distorted PoS. Like the only reason Bill has to live is to help out Barky. Not.

      • LOL!! I went there to post a comment and I see like-minded folks, far more eloquent than I have already visited!

        • Spoke too soon. Should have read a few more. The best comments were the first two and it degraded from there.

    • Yea, that was the line I responded to also. Since shills like Dionne were the ones pushing that agenda, in his addled brain, it still happened that way.

    • Wrong wrong wrong EJ — His most loyal supporters were infuriated that people like you accused him falsely!

      ARRRGVHGHGHGHGHG!!!

  18. Fox reporting that Evan Bayh has announced he’s retiring. wow!

    • I was just about to post that.

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/evan-bayh-to-retire.html

      Another Dem Senator bites the dust!

      • I wonder why so many are retiring…
        1.) They recognize the cesspool that politics is (Washington politics in particular) and have come to realize that in the present system they cannot do the good things they went there to do.
        2.) They got nice cushy job offers from their corporate sponsors.
        3.) They are rats abandoning a sinking ship.

        • adding to #3 — rats abandoning the ship that THEY sank.

          #2 — Congress has just become the internships on the way to lucrative consulting/lobbying jobs. (h/t Lambert). None of them really cares if they lose reelection, bc they are guaranteed job security and bigger bucks elsewhere.

          • To be fair to Bayh–he was one of Hillary’s strongest and longest supporters. He’s probably as disgusted with Obama as we are.

    • More handwriting on the wall.

      • Yep, they’re running for the hills.

      • I don’t recall ever seeing quite so many retirements as this year. Is it just because I get it all live streaming to me now or what?

        • Retirements are hitting both parties now, though maybe more Dems since they’re in charge. Anti-incumbent rage seems to be very real now. I’m happy as a clam about it. Hope they all get dumped in ’10.

    • Obama really redrew that map.

      • Yep – He is TRANSFORMATIVE!

        he told us he was going to be like Reagan – he is certainly succeeding

    • How’s that hopey changy thing working for ya. :-)

    • And Bayh was 20 points ahead of the republican in the polls. Very strange.

      • Does he know something we don’t? Starting to worry…

        • From the birdcage liner known as WaPo:

          In his statement, Bayh cited the lack of bipartisan comity as one of the main reasons for the decision. “There is too much partisanship and not enough progress — too much narrow ideology and not enough practical problem-solving,” Bayh will say. “Even at a time of enormous challenge, the peoples’ business is not being done.” He specifically cited the recent vote that killed the creation of a debt commission as evidence of the partisan gridlock.

          Bayh was first elected to the Senate in 1998 and was re-elected easily in 2004. National Republicans had recruited former Sen. Dan Coats to challenge Bayh in 2010 although polling suggested Bayh began the race with a 20-point edge. He also had $13 million in the bank at the end of the year.

          “My decision was not motivated by political concern,” Bayh is expected to say. “Even in the current challenging environment, I am confident in my prospects for re-election.”

          • Wow, so they don’t want congress folks that are seeking answers via the ‘debt commission ‘ and so that is why he decided to leave. Well, at least he is speaking the truth, as the leadership of Pelosi needs to TAKE NOTICE BEFORE SHE DOESN’T HAVE ENOUGH CONGRESS FOLKS TO BE MAJORITY LEADER OF.

          • Oh. I. Can’t. Resist. …

            “Evan’s Bye-Bye”

        • ok I believe he is wimping out …. his formal goodbye speech is total nonsense

          Maybe he is getting ready to run for President?

          just typing ….

  19. A friend of mine recently received an email from a former associate who landed a job as a mortgage executive with a large bank. The former associate said that there is basically no mortgage lending going on by virtue of bank management’s directive. He said that while the bank makes public comments indicating they are open to new mortgage lending, privately management has let it be known that all the bank wants to do is to reduce the number of foreclosures on its books. Apparently, the bank doesn’t understand that it’s not going to rid itself of the foreclosures until it is willing to lend money to potential buyers. Our business executives are as clueless as our representatives in D.C.

  20. Sarah Palin Mania takes over Daytona

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/os-nascar-daytona-500-sarah-palin-0215-20100214,0,596430.story

    Her reaction to people and their reaction to her reminds me of Bill Clinton more each one of these stories I read.

    After sitting through the meeting, Palin could not get out the door. Fans mobbed her, asking for pictures and autographs. Her 12-person entourage, comprised of track security, a policeman, friends and spokespeople, tried to get her to the door and to her next appearance. But Palin could not help herself, and kept signing and posing for pictures.

    Even when she was able to get out the door, she stopped every few feet to take pictures. One fan asked where her husband, Todd, was on Valentine’s Day. Palin said he couldn’t make it because he’s in Alaska preparing for the Iron Dog, the world’s longest snow-mobile race.

    As she got moving again, Palin stopped when she saw a boy in a wheelchair to say hello and sign an autograph.

    • Palin “mania” is being fed by the media, Palin herself, and people like you

      I’m not saying people don’t like her or that she isn’t very popular. But “mania” should be a high bar to reach; and I’m not sure that her current popularity crosses that hurdle. I’m sure you realize that she’s appearing in venues where she is likely to be well-received. Daytona isn’t exactly Madison Square Garden.

      And please don’t compare her to Bill Clinton. I know you were just comparing the reaction they both get from people. But you start out comparing their “it” factor and next thing people are saying they’re alike in every way, including their smarts. Not

      • ayup. I’ll defend her against the sexist attacks, but to me, the views she holds are anathema. I’m not going to get caught up in another media stir around a politician with a good personality just because they want something to write about and think they’ll sell their papers.

        She’s no Bill Clinton. She’s a policy lightweight. She bandies a lot of words around without any indepth knowledge on the subject. She may be popular, but she’s not a policy wonk. I’m tired of people attracting a political platform because they’ve got nice personalities. I’m tired of the packaging. Give me substance please!

        • Agree.

          I understand the attraction. She’s not the party choice. In fact I still doubt the GOP will allow her to be picked. So there’s a feeling of the underdog and some of the same treatment Hillary got, both from the party and because of sexism. And or course all the personality “it” stuff she has going.

          But in the end, she’s a reagan/bush/obama conservative who wants to do all the same crap they’ve been doing: tax cuts until corps pay no taxes, less regulation until there is no regulation, more restrictions on civil liberties, etc. Of course I included Obama there because he seems about the same to me.

          Between the two of them, I do understand why many would vote for her. Because though she may have many of the same policies of bush/obama, she would represent some punishment to the DLC. That is, a protest vote.

          But make no mistake, we’re mostly lefty liberals here. We unlike other sites do understand protest votes. But if you like her policies, don’t be surprised by some push back here.

          • Ralph is one of our regulars, and I welcome his perspective. I’m sure he has no problem with the pushback, as long as it’s respectful as yours all were.

          • None whatsoever. In fact, they are right. The comparison is to charisma which she shares with Clinton in spades. They sure don’t have the same views and I don’t know why one would lead to the other, unless people are sheeple.

          • The charisma characterization is fair. In fact Bill himself said as much when he talked about what an amazing candidate she was and how you’d be stupid to underestimate her.

            I also would assume that if someone goes from Clinton to Palin it’s either about a protest vote or it’s about the charisma, which makes the sheeple idea appropriate. And I love that term. We need a cartoonist because a sheeple cartoon would be great. :-)

    • The media is just promoting a gang war for shits and grins.

      I get really tired of Palin cheerleading on TC.

      She deserves to be defended if attacks on her on sexist but her ideas (won’t dignify them by calling them policies) are sophomoric at best.

      • I think “cheerleading” is a pretty strong term for TC’s view of Palin. Personally, I love that she sticks the phonies, especially Obama and the corporate media, right in the eye, and does it with panache. Let there be an open debate, based on policy and leadership skills. If she went up against Hillary, she’d be exposed for her limitations.

      • Are we supposed to post a “BURN THE WITCH” disclaimer whenever we mention Sarah Palin?

      • “Personally, I love that she sticks the phonies, especially Obama and the corporate media, right in the eye, and does it with panache.” I enjoy that too, and I despite the misogyny her presence reveals.

        I also find the mockery exasperating not because I support her but because it’s ineffective. People laughed at Ronald Reagan when he entered politics, too. Same with Bush. And see how well that kept them out of the White House. :facepalm:

      • I noticed that Palin cheerleading was going on strong on TC during election time … and continues on today.

        So one has to tip top around that subject IMHO… or ignore it. Thats what I decided to do when I started posting here again.

        I don’t pay any attention to Palin at all because I just don’t care about the clueless in politics.. A nice personality? Hardly.

        P.S.Actually I did read a week or so ago that her husband played a huge role during her Gov time in Alaska. You could say, he did plenty of governin himself. Emails tell us so ……

        • What is this stuff about “Palin cheerleading?” Quite frankly it’s beginning to burn me. Yes, some commentors here like Palin and may in fact vote for her depending on their options. But there is a big difference between pointing out the hypocrisy, sexism, misogyny, and double standards that are heaped upon her and “cheerleading.”

          Furthermore, she SHOULD be applauded as a woman for her accomplishments. We’re not going to “mock her” as a way of pushing back on her views. That’s what the fauxressives do.

          It’s really aggravating. No one has to tiptoe around anything. Dakinikat feels no pressure against speaking out against Palin’s politics and I myself have blasted her in a post or two — about her POLITICS. I’m not going to feed into the “stupid bimbo” stereotype that others would love to see just because they disagree with her politics. She a 40 something woman that achieved election to the highest office in her state and carried an 80% + approval rating. If acknowledging that and applauding her for her accomplishments is cheerleading, then shoot me.

          • I can’t wear those short skirts cuz my you-know-what shows.

          • I’m not getting this “Palin cheerleading” line of thought either. Just because I don’t say vile sexist things about her doesn’t mean I’d vote for her or support her.

          • Dak…some people want us to validate their hate for her. Nawtgunnahappen.

          • “No one has to tiptoe around anything. ”

            Great. Good to know it.

            Looks like I jumped in the hornet’s nest with both feet, doesn’t it?
            But As a newbie one has to expect it every time.

            When I pointed out in 2006 at dkos in amazement that the kosfans bashed and trashed Hillary constantly (which they did), I received my first Trollmark. From no other than the famous (unknown to me) Armando.

            I had no idea what and why that was because what I posted was the truth. Of course, lessons reigned down on me.
            But the very nice thing was that one or two bloggers, maybe Hillary supporters, defended me.

            Just an example.
            On the net you live and learn.

        • I haven’t tiptoed. I’ve criticized Palin here on mulitple occasions.

  21. OT: Bayh won’t seek re-election.

  22. Last week I was at a conference in Nashville at the same time the Tea Party gang was there. Hubby was seriously inquiring about tickets to hear Gov Palin speak – until he saw the price tag – then he decided he did not need to hear her that desperately. This is a man that is as apolitical as anyone you’ve ever seen – 40 years old and never voted.

    So what is “it” about her that makes people want to hear her? See her? Bask in her aura? Does it rise to the level of mania? Is it contrived as Obama-mania was?

    I don’t buy the “dumb” meme. That is put out to marginalize her, and it has not worked. “Dumb” does not get you elected to a state steeped in cronyism. “Dumb” does not allow you to reinvent yourself, stick your finger in the eye of the establishment, and make said establishment look stupid for mocking you.

    Will I vote for her if she runs for President? I donno. I sure as heck will not vote for Obama if he runs. Am I one of those that says “I do not agree with her political stance?” Nope. I think her political stance of following laws regardless of her personal viewpoint is a good one. I wish more politicians practiced that.

    I’d compare her to Bill Clinton easily – they both connect to “common folk” in spite of the derision of the press and the elites, they are both politically savvy. Time will tell if she’s as fast a study as Bill Clinton, but for now, I don’t think Bill Clinton suffers for having Sarah Plain compared to him. For her the comparison is a great compliment.

    • poop, this was supposed to respond to joanie in Brooklyn

      darned nesting

    • I would never compare her to BC. He can elaborate on a subject. SP can only spout “commonsense conservative solutions” (without elaborating) and “god, guns, and patriotism.”

      SP is a person of no vision except perhaps going back to colonial America. She calls people with higher educations “elitist.” She trades on folksiness and sarcasm.

      She was bored being governor of AK so she quit. She likes the attention and limelight. Fine. Good for her; she’s raking in the money.

      • I wouldn’t compare her to Bill either, except in the ways Ann expressed about her ability to connect with people–which is a powerful political talent. That is why she is getting this response. People are tired as hell of the hypocrisy and marketing. I actually liked that she wrote on her hand–I do it too. Does that make her ready to run for president–no. Bill Clinton is one of the smartest political minds we’ve ever had. Sarah cannot compete with that.

        But she does not consider “everyone” with higher educations elitist. I have seen no evidence of that. She directs her scorn for the elitists who deserve it–the media and political Village. And I love her sarcasm–it cuts through all the hype and illusion. I laughed all the way through her Convention speech, thrilled that someone finally said out loud what was so obvious about the pompous, self-important Obama image.

        She did not quit her job in AK because she was “bored.” Where do you get that, from the media? Obots were filing millions of dollars worth of bogus lawsuits against her and the state, making it very expensive and cumbersome for her to govern. That sounds believable to me, and so what if part of the reason was that greater opportunities opened up for her and she took them. If a man did that, he’d be “ambitious and bold.”

        Let the public stage determine her destiny. If she has the guts to put herself out there and take them on, with all the hostility being directed at her, I say go for it. It’s a good example for young girls to stand strong and speak up.

    • The Clintons are policy wonks though. Sarah Palin has not shown any inclination for that. It doesn’t mean she can’t compete with the likes of Obama or Bush, but her brand of politics isn’t in the same league as where the Clinton brand was twenty years ago, let alone right now. IMHO, Palin has brought her own unique Truwoman brand of politics to national politics. The Washington establishment lowered the bar for Bush and Obama to jump over, “safe” in the (not very reassuring at all) knowledge that Bush had daddy on line one and Cheney holding his hand and Obama would read whatever the suits wanted him to read off the teleprompter… And, now they’re afraid someone unqualified could jump over the bar? You know, if they had sneered at Bush and Obama instead of favoring them for the WH, maybe I could understand their problem with Sarah Palin’s lack of depth on the issues–but I do not think that is what really bothers them. It’s their inability to control her that sends them sneering. Her mere presence upsets the Good Ol’ Boy Network. They wanted to play the rockstar game in 2008 — but they thought they could keep it controlled to the rockstar they wanted. Sarah Palin wasn’t part of the plan.

      • Excellent points Wonk. You just know that if she was spouting their particular creed they’d be cheering her on. I often think of that when I hear Limbaugh. If Hillary was a Republican, he’d be her biggest champion, crowing about her brilliance and strength. Instead, he focuses on her ankles. People are so blinded by partisanship, they cannot appreciate strengths and weaknesses about individuals and their policy positions and records. It’s all knee-jerk cheering tribalism, as myiq has pointed out. That’s why I admire HRC & Bill: they can respectfully acknowledge Sarah’s talents, but challenge her ideology. It’s called democracy.

      • Bingo, wtv!

      • Interestingly enough we don’t know if she has depth or not! It’s not really been part of the question as of yet. I won’t be surprised if she does not have policy depth nor would I be surprised if she turns out to be a very substantive politician.

        People who say they know at this point are fooling themselves.

      • if it’s between Jindal and Obama, Palin and Obama, or Huckabee and Obama I stay home and don’t vote. That’s like asking which way do you want your shit served? Nothing would make any of that taste any better.

    • I think that when people say that they could NEVER vote for Palin, somewhere in their mind they think that there is some other great candidate that is going to be on the ballot. Unless Obama decides that he does not want to run again and Hillary takes the Democratic nomination, our choices are going to be Obama and some other Republican candidate. And, other than Palin, the names being mentioned are the same ones from 2008 — Romney, Huckabee and old favorites like Newt Gingrich. While I would be overjoyed to vote for Hillary Clinton for president, if I only have the other choices, I will vote for Palin every time.

      • It’s a long time between now and then, particularly when counted in political-life-years. A really long time.

      • Voting for the lesser of two evils in any of the possible match-ups will be difficult, indeed.

  23. Leave Obama alone! he’s doing better than I would” – more lowered expectations from the B0bots
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/leave-obama-alone-presidenting-is-hard/

  24. Paul Volcker, gave an interview today to CNN’s Fareed Zakaria, in which he bluntly declared that the greatest crisis facing the United States is a total collapse in governance.

    One year into the Obama Presidency, the Senate has yet to confirm an undersecretary of treasury for domestic or international affairs. He told Zakaria that, in all his life, the incapacity for governance in the United States has never been so grave. Asked, again, at the close of his interview what he saw as the gravest problem in the immediate period ahead, he said, “the crisis in governance.” He emphasized that there is no alternative to American leadership of the world, and right now, there is no real American leadership.

    While there was no mention of Glass-Steagall, Volcker responded to a question about the need for reregulation, by saying that a framework must be established for non-banking institutions to be put through “euthanasia,” not rescue.

    He also argued that the United States must revive its manufacturing base, citing a 20-year trend toward “financial engineering” at the expense of chemical and civil engineering. He again returned to the issue of governance and policy-making, noting that the cost of shipping a ton of steel from China to the United States is equal to the total labor cost of producing the same ton of steel in the United States. So much for the argument that labor costs are prohibitive to a revival of American basic manufacturing.

    ——–
    Our enemy, the one hiding behind the curtain, is BANKRUPT. And we bemoan the fact they have all the money! Them ain’t assets, people.They hold far, far more worthless paper (trillions and trillions) than otherwise very considerable real assets.
    They are at their most vulnerable now. Bankrupt.

    1. Glass-Steagall protections for the commercial and savings banks–wipe trillions of virtual poker chips off the books Establish a defacto Hamiltonian credit system.

    2. Enact Homeowners and Bank Protection Act of 2007. Come’on already! Stop the accelerating foreclosure insanity.

    3. With banks freed of toxic waste, have federal government issue federal credit to create and keep real, productive, scientific and tech. workers. Train more. Rebuild infrastructure to 21st century standards.

    4. U.S. government move toward linking with China, India and Russia (many others soon to join) for an international fixed rate credit system to launch world recovery.

    Or blog our way to hell.

  25. Thank you ralph b and all you other palin lovers for proving my point. Now you can officaly dump hillary,even though you already did for you shero palin.

    Hey clown, where is your post defending hillary who is still attacked 10x worse. Hillary had a Q and A and a townhall with the people of qutar and the forgein press and guess what no notes,writing on her hand,or teleprompter. Hillary was amazing as always.

    This will probably go to spammy because it is something positive about hillay.

    • It goes to spam because you’ve been voted a troll by folks here.

      You mustn’t read things very carefully, because they majority of us here defend Palin as a woman candidate who has experienced sexism but don’t defend her on her stance on the issues or her substance on policy. I don’t think you’ll find one of the front pagers that would consider voting for her as anything but an act of protest. She basically stands against most of the things we stand for but that still doesn’t mean you have to play mean girl every time her name is mentioned here.

    • Try comprehension instead of condescension.

      Pushing back on sexist and classist tropes against a conservative woman–that’s putting principle before personalities and partisanship. Defending someone’s right to voice his or her politics is not the same thing as defending that person’s politics.

      Hillary IS amazing, so much more so than the Palin-deranged creeps on the left and the right. Hillary doesn’t need a teleprompter or a crib sheet or the politics of personal destruction to demolish people in a debate on the issues.

      “We should all be proud of Gov. Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Sen. McCain. While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Gov. Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.”
      –Hillary Clinton

      • First,thank you for not sending me to spammy.

        Second, my question was not answered. Where is a post about hillary either defending her,because now the attacks are 10x worse or the post giving her respect on how she handles the “gotcha media” and forgein “gotcha media” without hand notes or a teleprompter. Maybe you should ask the clown or ralph b what their little member thinks of hillary,because it is becoming common over here that is how the confluence determines which woman deserves defending or giving respect to now.

        • Now the attacks are 10x worse?

          What attacks? By who? Where is YOUR post at YOUR blog defending her?

          • Is Hillary being attacked now? I haven’t heard them. I thought she was doing just great as SOS. Who knew?

          • The attacks by the writers at forgein policy,huffington post,fox news channel,bolton,liz cheney,cnn,democratic underground,and sometimes here when you people believe dick morris,hannity,politico,tina brown that hillary is in the shadows,weak,and not doing anything. They are not attacking what she says but how fat she is by tina brown,jealous of bill by the entire fox news channel,she does nothing by dick morris,hillary is a controlling dried up *itch and bill is cheating on her by ben smith,and she is fat and ugly compared to palin by dennis miller. I have seen posts by fif and ralph b who echo what they,not the fat part or cheating part but the other talking points by republicans.

            I thought this blog defends all women against sexism,but I guess not. Thank you mr.feminist once again for proving my point on how you and the others judge which women deserve defending. I do defend hillary at these places along with other hillary supports like still4hill,stacy at stacy’s blog, and common ground politics posters. Just like I am defending hillary here at at teabaggers for palin,excuse me I mean the confluence.

          • No, I want links and quotes – we’re not taking your word for anything.

            Your comments about us demonstrate that your fantasies and delusions grossly distort your perception of reality.

          • Wow lakergirl, alternate reality much?

        • There have been posts about Hillary Clinton and post defending her since this blog’s inception to the point we get called a Hillary Blog. If you read RD’s description of the blog, it is not to promote or defend any one candidate or office holder. We simply discuss issues of interest. Each of us brings different strengths and interests. It’s not my job or my desire to police other’s posts except for ones with rude personal attacks and obvious concern trolling. We cover a lot of politicians and a lot of whatever shows up in the MSM. If you want conformity to your view of life, you need to do your own blog, not continually ask us to conform to your view of the world. I am also not myiq2xu or RalphB’s conscious or mother. Their views are their own and whatever they express–if politely done–are welcome as is any one else’s POV. It’s up to myq2xu to defend what he frontpages, not me or any one else. Again, I can’t think of one front pager that would actually vote for Sarah Palin based on her stance on the issues. That doesn’t mean we can’t talk about her, does it?

        • Gosh…did you get lost on your way to the echo chamber? Take troll boulevard east and then make a left at blogstalker hill; go 2 miles until you see the big vacuous hole. Jump in it.

        • Asking gotcha questions while talking about Hillary handling the gotcha media. Classic.

          Your “concern” about Hillary is see-through.

        • What a mo-ron!

        • We have posted innumerable posts about Hillary–did you miss those? This blog was STARTED because of our support for HRC.

          • Oh, I just saw above that I was actually cited, with Ralph, as one of the “Palin lovers” and “HRC detractors.” That is truly fascinating…I guess you missed my 2 years of groupie posts re: HRC. Why am I talking to an unbalanced poster?

          • LOL! Lakergirl just managed to get through on the current post too.

    • You are one sick puppy. Anyone that thinks we at TC are not Hillary supporters is just NUTSO. We’re just not sycophants, shrill or delusional.

    • Please seek counseling. I’m begging you.

  26. “Dear Sarah: Say it is so, run for president”

    http://www.miamiherald.com/living/columnists/leonard-pitts/story/1478213.html

    In the Fox interview, you scored Obama for supposedly expecting Americans to “sit down and shut up” and accept his policies. But when asked when the president has ever said that, you couldn’t answer. Obama, you sputtered, has just been condescending with his “general persona.”

    I found that a telling moment. See, ultimately what you represent is not conservatism. Heck, I suspect that somewhere, Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan are spinning like helicopter rotors at the very idea.

    “No, you represent the latest iteration of an anti-intellectualism that periodically rises in the American character. There is, historically and persistently, a belief in us that y’all just can’t trust nobody who acts too smart or talks too good — in other words, somebody whose “general persona” indicates they may have once cracked a book or had a thought. Americans tend to believe common sense the exclusive province of humble folks without sheepskins on the wall or big words in their vocabularies.

    I don’t mock those people. They are my parents, my family elders, members of my childhood church. I honor their native good sense, what mom called “mother wit.” But if it is insulting to condescend to them, it is equally insulting to mythologize them.

    More to the point, something is wrong when we celebrate mental mediocrity like yours under the misapprehension that competence or, God forbid, intelligence, makes a person one of those “elites” — that’s a curse word now — lacking authenticity, compassion and common sense.”

    • I notice you left out the PDS portions of that column:

      Dear Sarah Palin:

      I hear you’re pondering a run for the White House in 2012. Last week, you told Fox news it would be “absurd” to rule it out.

      I’m writing to ask that you rule it in. I very badly want you to run for — and win — the Republican nomination for the presidency.

      I know you’re waiting for the punch line. Maybe you figure I think you’d be a weak candidate who would pave the way for President Obama’s easy re-election.

      That’s not it. No, I want you to run because I believe a Palin candidacy would force upon this country a desperately needed moment of truth. It would require us to finally decide what kind of America we want to be.

      Mrs. Palin, you are an avatar of the shameless hypocrisy and cognitive disconnection that have driven our politics for the last decade, a process of stupidification creeping like kudzu over our national life.

      As Exhibit A, consider your recent speech at a so-called “tea party” event, wherein you dismissed the president as a “charismatic guy with a teleprompter.” Bad enough you imply that teleprompter use is the mark of an insubstantial man, even though you and every other major politician uses them. But what made the comment truly jaw-dropping is that even as you spoke, you had penned on your left palm, clearly visible, a series of crib notes.

      Mrs. Palin, if Obama is an idiot for reading a prepared speech off a teleprompter, what are you for reading notes you’ve inked on your hand like a school kid who failed to study for the big test?

      [portion cited by cx4800]

      So no, this is not a clash of ideologies, but a clash between intelligence and its opposite. And I am tired of being asked to pretend stupid is a virtue. That’s why I’d welcome the moment of truth your campaign would bring. It would force us to decide once and for all whether we are permanently committed to the path of ignorance, of birthers, truthers and tea party incoherence you represent, or whether we will at last turn back from the cliff toward which we race.

      If the latter, wonderful, God bless America. If the former, well, some of us can finally quit hoping the nation will return to its senses and plan accordingly. Either way, we need to know, and your candidacy would tell us. If you love this country, Mrs. Palin, you can do it no greater service.

      Run, Sarah, run.

      BTW – this isn’t a Palin post – it’s a post about two-faced Dennis Cardoza and the housing meltdown.

      • You might have pointed that out to:

        RalphB, on February 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am Said:

        That’s where the Palin comment started.

        Goodbye, TC. Your efforts might be better directed to whom we should support not picking up every R talking point against 0 or every D and spinning it.

        • Whom should we support then?

          Obama?

          I didn’t “spin” anything. I just included the parts of Pitts’ column that you left out.

        • I just love all these condescending commentors who like to drop in and tell the regular posters and commenters what should and should not be included here. As we say, it’s a big internet, go create your own blog–as if it’s just an easy effort.

  27. That’s what I love to see – the phrase “failed miserably” and “Obama” in teh same sentence!!

  28. Boy did we go off topic on this thread, so let’s try to bring it back. It all comes back to the banks. The lawmakers have to pressure them to eat their losses ( even though some of them may wind up insolvent) and try to keep people in their homes. That may mean reworking many mortgage loans to reflect the current value of the house.

    As I understand it, the modifications being done now are merely extending the life of the loans, the principal isn’t being reduced or the monthly payment. That’s not very helpful to most people.

    • On the banks, I think if they eat their losses they won’t be too big to fail anymore. When it’s over they’ll be too small to survive. That would be a heck of a shock to the system but it’s going to come sooner or later and I would rather get it over with now. Until this mess is unwound, we will never really recover.

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