The Obot PDS brigades have their underoos in a twist because Sarah Palin may have written crib notes on her hand. ZOMG – that’s an impeachable offense. BURN THAT SHAMELESS HUSSY AT THE STAKE!
From the comments at Think Progress:
WAIT, you mean Bimbostien can READ?
Seriously, is this really the best the fanboiz of Teleprompter Jeebus can come up with?
Because if it is, they better get used to saying “President Palin.”
UPDATE:
Ruh-roh! Turns out Obama writes notes on his hand too:
Filed under: General
Joan Walsh:
Why do Palin haters always sound deranged?
Here is “Snarling Pitbull Sarah”
Joan, Joan, Joan. arggghhh! {{Buries face in pillow}}
Why does she have to behave this way? I really thought Joan was smarter than this. Palin is the furthest thing from a dumb politician. She’s got so much of the country eating out of her hand. Who does Joan think she’s influencing here? The Obots? They already hate Palin. They hated Hillary too. Throw in another woman for them to hate and a chemist would call it a correlation. Joan isn’t getting us to hate Palin because to us she’s just another politician. We see her for what she really is: a threat.
Palin is not a liberal and I don’t plan to vote for her. Why can’t Joan just leave well enough alone?
Because if she did, she wouldn’t be invited on Tweety’s show or Olberman’s show or Rachel’s show to sneer and help whip up the hate.
The condescending MSNBC’ers are Joan’s peer group, her CHOICE of allies.
It’s how they roll, unaware that they’re damaging the Democratic Party.
If they really wanted to destroy Sarah Palin they should have ignored her. The harder they attack her the stronger she gets.
It’s kinda funny to watch, because they attack her, she gets stronger, they get angrier and attack her harder, she gets stronger, they are infuriated and attack her even more, she gets stronger, etc, etc.
Yep. And it’s stunning to realize they don’t even get it.
Where are the grown-ups in the Dem Party?
Under the bus.
{{gag!}}
Where are the grown-ups of the DNC, you ask. I think we hang out here and call ourselves Independents.
I agree. Palin Derangement Syndrome is weirdly [or predictably] like Clinton Derangement. I do not support Sarah Palin’s presidential aspirations though I hate the way she’s been treated in the press and by the “New” Democrats.
It’s bad strategy. The more the opposition slams Palin in a gender-based way, the more she becomes Joan of Arc in the eyes of her supporters. And for women [even me], the slurs and smears and dumb jokes are maddening. I really hate it when other women pile on.
Haven’t we learned anything? Apparently not. We’re dealing with the fallout of Cult of Personality right now. Keep it up and history will repeat itself.
Drives me nuts!!!
Joan, also needs sensitivity training as it is most egregious to call a mother of a down syndrome baby ‘dumb’. She should rise to a discourse of policy and drop the misogyny too as that is insulting to 50% of the population.
I really don’t get Joan. Palin’s one of the meanest people on the public stage? Really? Don’t Olberman or Mathews count as public persons. What about all the spewed cr@p that Hillary took from every angle? And Joan thinks Sarah is mean. She sounds like a kid on a playground. But then so do lots of B0s supporters.
Joan is one to talk … I recall a dominatrix picture of Palin going up in her saloon…
More than that — accompanying that dominatrix picture was an article by Gary Kamiya about his fantasies of having sex with Palin on his Obama sheets. Of course his description of “having sex” with her sounded a whole hell of a lot like rape.
She’s “mean” because she dares to challenge the One, and his cronies. How dare she! She cites the GOP Convention speech, and I hooted and laughed through the whole thing. I thought it was hilarious and dead on re: Obama. Finally someone called him the arrogant phony that he was.
Maybe because they are dumb and mean?
Indeed. I’ll buy that.
Strong, forceful women are b!#$%es because women are supposed to keep their mouths shut, especially if they don’t agree with you. That’s the misogynist’s mindset. It’s so sad to see women contributing to the sexist treatment of women politicians.
Women are often the enforcers of the patriarchy.
Sad but true.
I hope they (Obama supporters) are going to drop the ‘Class Attacks’ as many (some of those 18 million that weren’t counted?) of the folks that are going to the ‘Tea Parties’ are working folks and to my shock they are or were Democrats. The sad thing is that they don’t see that the organizers really aren’t concerned with working folks and that the money is rolling in from the same people that rolled the money in for Bush ll.
Step away from the mirror, Joan.
Walk away slowly with your hands where we can see them.
Short answer – Because they are.
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-was-blithering-idiot-until.html
I think it is funny. She is making people crazy. I do not agree with all her political views but she does have the right to say them.
If she did write something on her hand it just shows that she is economical. She does not have to pay a teleprompter carrier or typist.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
It reminds me of the way the Clinton haters act.
How many times did we hear them describe Bill or Hillary as having “lost it” or being “out of control” and then see a video of the event and the alleged meltdown turned out to be a big nothing-burger?
Yep. I remember the coverage of that: OMG, Bill LOST HIS SHIT in a red-faced TIRADE!!
Then i’d watch, and he was not out of control in the least.
Gawd, I miss having him in the WH. He didn’t “uh uh uh uh” one time while he laid out perfectly the problem with today’s media, and the way the Obama people played it.
Bill Clinton is on the money!! He was not out of control and was 100% correct.
It is a shame that they do not teach debating in school anymore. Where you had to prepare an argument and be able to speak for both sides.
People do not listen and study and get a true picture of things or ideas that they are against. Just saying I do not like it and not knowing why is a waste of time.
I have only met one person who had a real reason for disliking Hillary Clinton and I could respect his feeling. She made a bad judgment call but since then has learned from her mistake. Has anyone met someone who has a real reason to dislike Sarah Palin. I am not talking about her politics but the unreasonable hatred of her as a person.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Too many people confuse debate-argument with fight-argument.
It’s a tribal thing, really. Pure emotion.
Had they focused on facts, policies, or qualifications, Hillary Clinton would be our president.
Joan Walsh made her choices long ago.
then there are ‘snark’ blogs that confuse being mean with being ironic and funny
Condescending, aren’t they?
Petty too.
Yes, thank you, Mary…it is a tribal thing…or as The Vel Crows r&b group from Santa Fe put it back in 1982 from their song Tribal Situation…
“It’s tribal situation
In a time of tribulation
We talkin’ ’bout a global nation
but it’s a tribal situation
Seems like a warp of fate
In the middle of love and hate
It seems a little bit odd
To be bad mouthin’ god…
It’s a tribal situation….
Lots of people are afraid of her. I don’t agree with her, but I like her. She delivers her speeches well too. She is a threat.
Its all a smoke screen though. Anti-Obama or anti-Palin the American people are not getting their issues addressed.
Imagine a Palin versus Obama presidential race. Doesn’t that scream Third Party candidate?
One might hope so.
But, actually… it screams an Obot butt whoopin’.
I’d really like to watch that race.
From another country.
Our options:
1) expatriate
2) get Obama and Palin to expatriate
I can see Obama as candidate-in-exile (he’s such a “global” figure).
Palin, on the other hand, has her feet planted firmly on the ground.
Guess we’d have to leave.
That’s why the memo has gone out to destroy her now. And get one of the less dynamic Republicans to run.
Wow! It’s nice to know the Obots are seething. Means they see the obvious…. Palin is “polarizing” the nation. Yep: she is one magnetic pol. And that ticks them off to no end.
Carry on Sarah! If you are “mean” it’s only because the idiots deserve it.
She does push their buttons, doesn’t she?
I’m a little embarassed at how much pleasure it gives me to watch them come unglued that they didn’t destroy her before, and —–OMG—-she’s back.
Joy Behar and Andrew Sullivan are about to have nervous breakdowns over it all.
Good grief.
It will be harder for them to take down Palin than it was for them to take down Hillary. They could “beat” Hillary from the inside with dirty tricks and RBC rulings. But Palin plays for the other team. And the other team’s primary system isn’t set up the same way. IIRC, it doesn’t even have caucuses.
The GOP has caucuses, you must be thinking of SuperDelegates. They also have much, much fewer delegates.
You are so right about the problem they have because she’s on the other team, but you can also bet they have been planning how to take her down despite that. They have succeeded at getting the media to refuse to say anything that would cause people to stop LIKING Obama.
The media is choosing their words very carefully: Obama is intelligent, charismatic, sincere, compassionate. Palin is mean, stupid/dumb, polarizing. Remember, it worked so well against Hillary, that he ran against the GOP VP candidate for the general using the same tactic.
Not gonna work this time. The public is tuning the narrative out.
Ergo……Massachusetts and Scott Brown.
Yes. You’re right. Thanks for the correction.
Sarah will need to be taken down from the inside. The obots can’t do that (unless they change parties), although I have no doubt that her own party may try to keep her off the ticket. I really think/hope that Obama’s ride on the misogyny pony is losing its crowd appeal. Wishful thinking, I know. But if 2012 turns into a repeat of 2008 then I’m going to be mad as hell and taking to the streets.
Mary – I really think Coakley’s narrative is what took her down. She never should have flip flopped on HCR. That created the image she was a “say anything to get elected” politician, and we already have a serious problem with one of those in the top spot. The Obama HCR goals are different than what the people want, and expect from their representation…Coakley showed she was going to be a good little soldier and give him what he wanted.
gxm17 – If the R’s can keep Sarah earning big speaking bucks, and selling millions of books, they won’t have any trouble keeping her from seeking an office that pays rather poorly for the responsibility and hours required. I honestly don’t get the impression from her that she is that ambitious. I think she wants to make a difference, but that she’s fine doing it from the position she’s taken as a private citizen. I think she’d be more successful helping another R get elected than she would be getting herself into the WH.
They also have winner-take-all primaries, so there’s no apportioning the delegates by a district’s previous voting record or even flat-out percentage. It’s cleaner and easier–and Hill would have been the acknowledged candidate by March if the Dems still followed the same procedure.
Those are good points. Hillary’s take down was an inside job, with media collusion and orchestration from the corporate donors quite likely.
Not to be redundant, but why do so many women hate both Hillary and Sarah with such passion when the politics of the two aren’t even similar. The men who hate I get, but the women, I don’t follow.
Well, what do Sarah and Hillary have in common?
White women who ran against Obama?
I don’t think the hate has anything to due with the differences in melanin in their genes but rather the differences in other things contained in their jeans!
Women who are attached to the idea of male superiority can’t stand other women who buck the system. As I mentioned yesterday in LI’s thread, the religious doctrine that our culture is steeped in binds the soul. These women feel small and they want all women to feel just as small as they do.
They both have shown strong commitment to women and children albeit in different ways.
There’s actually a lot about both Hillary and Sarah to be jealous of. So, the insecure women are showing their feeling of inadequacy through their emotional reaction to these incredible women.
The love and admiration of the “little people”, the ones who work or struggle to pay the bills and keep food on the table can relate to these women thinking they are alot like me. The media idiots have got to go. They empower the stupidity of the masses. I watched a little bit of coverage of the Tea Party meeting on the news. Instead of interviewing an antendee, they interviewed Halperin to explain who was there and why. Circlejerk.
I watched a little of the coverage, and it was too funny. Palin, to a standing ovation, declared that the movement had no leader, wanted no leader, and needed no leader, because “we are not sheep”.
What did the talking heads do? Spent 10 minutes arguing with themselves over whether or not she was the new leader of the Tea Party movement.
THIS is why the people have lost all faith in both our govt and our media. The public can scream something at them repeatedly, clearly, in plain English, and they walk away mystified, wondering what the hell it is that those little people are really saying…..
One of the main reasons I quit watching the talking heads years ago was that I would watch a speech or debate and then right afterward the bloviating gasbags would come on and tell me what I just saw, except that what they described bore little resemblance to what my eyes and ears had told me.
I decided to trust my lying eyes and ears.
How true! How True!
I disagree with Sarah on a lot, but I find it freaking hilarious how crazy the Village goes over her. Do they even realize how unhinged they look and sound to the average American? Yes, she stood at a podium and harshly criticized Obama and his policies. And the Left never stands at a podium and criticizes Bush and the GOP? I’ve heard a lot worse “reveling in being mean” than anything Sarah ever said – as has most of America.
The correct way to respond to Palin’s speech, if you disagree, is a measured response pointing out that it’s the same old Reagan conservatism, that she sincerely believes but that really won’t work to solve our problems.
But they just can’t help themselves. They have to start shrieking and rending their clothes that she is DANGEROUS! and MEAN! and NASTY! STUPID! and OMG SHE IS TEH DEEEEEVIIIIIILLLLLL!!!!
Keep it up morons. Pretty soon even those who disagree with her will be supporting her just to piss off the shriekers. Not to mention that you are driving the final nails into any credence the public still gave the media.
Question of the day: What if the media held a witchhunt, and no one came?
“What if the media held a witchhunt, and no one came?”
We would have matured as a nation?
We won’t easily BAMBOOZLED anymore?
“What if the media held a witchhunt…” That has to be turned into a bumper sticker. Perhaps Dances With Pumas over at PUMApac may be able to do that if you contact her.
Politics is no longer about establishing policy; it’s the politics of personal vendetta. What a shame, Joan Walsh, et al, affiliate with those tactics. That’s exactly what the American public is rejecting right now.
Yeah, that would make a good bumper sticker!
If they called it the same old Reagan conservatism, people might see Obama is trying to practice some of it himself.
Obama is actually giving us the worst of both worlds: bloated, expanding, ineffective govt AND Reagan’s worst ideas. He’s an equal opportunity boob, with an unerring instinct for the worst possible ideas from both parties..
Heck, for all the moaning about Bill’s triangulating and compromise, and least he had sense enough to pick and choose things from both sides that might actually work.
WMBC said:
“Obama is actually giving us the worst of both worlds: bloated, expanding, ineffective govt AND Reagan’s worst ideas. He’s an equal opportunity boob . . . ”
Exactly! He stands for everything, he stands for nothing. It was evident during the campaign and it’s painfully apparent now.
An equal opportunity boob. Hahaha! Love it.
One thing MSNBC has done is make me think I am a Conservative. I’m not by any means anywhere near being one, but if MSNBC is the team leader/ spokesmodel for Democrats, I’m certainly not on that team.
You’re likely an old-school fiscally responsible lunch-bucket liberal. But if you get screamed at enough that you are a nasty filthy conservative if you don’t worship the One, it’s easy to shrug and say “Fine, then. Whatever you say.”
Labels have little meaning anymore.
After being called a c*nt by an Obama supporter, I sent back my Democratic Party card. I am now officially an independent.
I agree with Sarah Palin on almost nothing, but am getting a HUGE kick out of seeing the pseudo-liberals freak out at her very presence.
Well said. Unfortunately , perception is reality, in the real world.
MSNBC is perceived as the “spokesmodel” for the Obama Democrats—-whether true or not—so the public assumes this condescension is applicable to all liberals in the Dem Party. Not fair, but that’s life.
I agree with you: if MSNBC is the spokesmodel for Democrats, I’m not on that team, either. And there are thousands like us out there.
Sad, what the arrogance of the Obots have done to the Democratic Party.
If that is truth then the Democrats ought to carefully examine those ratings number for MSNBC.
I had the same doubts about my own political leanings after the last demoralizing primary and GE. But I’ve come back to knowing who and what I am: an old fashioned Democratic Lib in the tradition of my mother, my grandparents and their parents before them. There’s absolutely no reason that the Tea Party people who represent the working class sector of this country and who have genuine grievance should feel the need to walk away from the Democratic Party. That’s who the party has always represented and been a voice for: the worker, the little guy, the ordinary American with middle of the road values and aspirations–a decent chance in the marketplace, the demand of fair pay and safe working conditions, the expectation that each generation will have it a little better than the last and respect for who and what they are and what they contribute, which is a lot.
You certainly do not win hearts and minds when you look down your nose at middle America or make petty comments about their complaints and/or values. The “New” Democrats need a history lesson. Or they can kiss their political aspirations away.
It’s not “what’s wrong with Kansas.” It’s what’s wrong with the Democratic Party.
It’s not “what’s wrong with Kansas.” It’s what’s wrong with the Democratic Party.
Bingo.
I love the idea of the Tea Party movement but not their politics. Maybe we should start a revolution of our own. We could call it “the Whiskey Rebellion”.
Exactly. They are organized enough to pull off a convention and get themselves national attention that is causing unease, and they are being taken seriously. That’s happening despite the fact the “Tea” party should invoke images of Alice in Wonderland.
Unfortunately, the D’s who went Independent have been unable to do that, so far. Perhaps this is why we so seldom see the D’s in control.
Born and bred in the Boston area so the “tea party” image doesn’t invoke Alice for me. I see fed up people saying that they have had enough and are willing to sacrifice for get attention and be heard. Is there a Mad Hatter and a Doormouse at their table? Maybe, but that’s not the image that I see. The “living in Wonderland” image is much more what I see in my head when I think about the Democrats.
We started one. But, nobody’s pumping megabucks into the PUMA movement.
Speaking of Sullivan:
http://www.queerty.com/andrew-sullivan-completely-dropped-the-ball-on-john-edwards-accept-his-apology-20100205/
And of course, the PDS goes on. From the comments:
It’s kinda weird to see a gay man obsessed about a woman’s vajayjay.
Good grief, this granny had to look this up and then it turns out the commenter didn’t know it is to be used on a male, not a female, not that I use it as I didn’t even know what it meant until today.
In that case, after his obsession with Palin’s vagina, it appears that Sullivan himself meets the definition of a “fuckwit,” doesn’t it?
Andy has met the criteria for fuckwittitude for years now. His only bright moment recently has been his liveblogging of the Iranian uprising over their crooked elections.
They get that she has crib notes in her hand? From THAT? Goodness, I glance down at my hands all day long. And even moreso when I’m wearing acrylic nails.
Of course, from the same people that said Hillary was hoping Obama would get assassinated, I probably shouldn’t expect anything more.
Peter Daou asked via Twitter last night:
I replied: “No, she would not have. One of the “progressives” biggest mistakes was to go after her.”
I really like Peter Daou.
Zsa Zsa’s place has a picture that shows some words written on Sarah’s hand.
So what?
Okay, I’ve see the picture. Looks to me like what I would do if I wanted to be sure make sure I didn’t forget to mention something. Hardly crib notes.
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2010-02-07-palinhandclose.jpg
Looks like it says: Energy; Budget is struck out, changed to…defict?; Tax; and finally, Lift America’s Spirit.
Wow…that’s some serious cheating there. /snark
That’s similar to something I used to do back when I was in a band. For new songs, I’d write the beginning word of each line on my set list, to jog my memory if I needed it. Hardly cheating. (If the photo is even real.)
Don’t they realize how insane they sound when their beloved Obama uses a teleprompter for just about everything, even speaking to a group of grade school kids?
Heh – there’s probably enough room on the palm of her hand for a few trigger words, and it certainly seemed that’s what she was searching for when she was examining her palm.
If she had a 3×5 card in her hand to refer to, how would they have reacted? Remember, her speech at the convention was rumored to be from memory ’cause the teleprompters were broken.
I think she does a really good job with public speaking. She speaks to the crowd, energizes them, makes them laugh and cheer. She just doesn’t speak for me. So, while I enjoy watching her upset the h#ll out of the media and Obots, she’ll never be my candidate.
It would have been different I think if they went after her as a peer. I think I would have been attracted to a debate on Sarah’s bonafides and a real critique of her policy but most of the progs I have seen go after her go after her on stuff like “She’s a dumb girl who won a beauty contest.” There is no acknowledgement of her accomplishments whatsover. It’s like they live in some alternate reality where winning a mayorship and a governorship. Then there’s the cognive dissonance on choice. These are the same people who are peachy keen fine with the 17 Democrats who voted to ban partial birth(despite the fact that it put women at personal risk in greater danger) and did bupkiss on Bush calling BC an abortifactent but all of a sudden are shreiking that Sarah Palin is going to take away my reproductive rights. Uh hello? How about a little intellectual honesty?
All in all, if I chose to attack Sarah I think the high ground is the place to do so, not from the mud in a sty.
In short, unhinged Palin-hate does about as much good for the Left as the shrieking Birthers do for the right. The point isn’t even whether you agree, it’s that it’s a completely losing game. The difference is that wise republicans and their mouthpieces are not touching the birthers with a ten-foot-pole, but the Dems are embracing the Sarah obsession with glee.
Great, so the right will end up looking sensible to the public, and the left will end up looking like lunatics. The sheer political stupidity of the New Dems never ceases to amaze me.
I completely agree. The Dems play the nasty, condescending know-it-alls and the Republicans look wise and measured, even compared to the Tea Partiers. The politically astute thing to do is to stand back, politely disagree, and watch the extremists (like Rush Limbaugh) push the Republican Party in a more and more conservative direction, at some point alienating the Independents. I watched Sarah Palin’s speech, and I am beginning to get creeped out by her all on my own, but the venom with which she is received by Dems is just as creepy.
She definitely did some pandering.
I can’t believe she attacked Obama on national security/defense. His policy is practically the same as the guy before him, he’s kept many of the same people in place, has protected the policy positions of the people who were before him, expanded the war, and has pretty much promised to protect Homeland Security and Defense budgets while cutting domestic budgets.
It was an intellectually dishonest comment. As equally disingenuous as her “death panel” remark and a real turn off for me.
If you listen to Sarah Palin, really listen to her, she’s still in campaign mode from 2008. All the buzz words are there: founding fathers, our constitution, common sense, national security yada, yada, yada. She can be debated on policy points and details. In fact, details and specifics are her Achilles heel.
I’ve had supporters screech at me that she’ll become more policy specific after: the post-election fervor dies down, after the book tour, after she’s comfortable on Fox News . . .
No. It’s same old, same old. Think Hillary Clinton. Then think Sarah Palin in policy dialogue. No frigging comparison! In Palin’s case, it’s personality. And she’s got plenty to spare. I like Palin. I’m attracted to that grit and down-home gumption. But that’s not enough to recommend anyone to the Office of the Presidency. We are watching what on-the-job experience looks like right now.
Disaster City!
It just scares the bejesus out of me that we’re going to trot on down this Cult of Personality road, again. And the New Dems? They’re their own worst enemy.
“She’ll become more policy specific after elected.”
Now why does that kind of thinking sound vaguely familiar?(tapping side of head)
Oh yeah, it’s what the folks we have now said about Obama!
I think we’re seeing why the Right gets to be in power more than the Left. They are masterful strategists, while the D’s show a bit too much emotion. Even that OTT stage built specifically for O to accept his nomination was just a giant display of emotion.
Funny, the mainstream narrative is just the opposite.
How bad can PDS get? (No, don’t tell me.)
Meanwhile we still don’t have healthcare, jobs are still draining away, the bankers are still getting richer.
Saying nasty things about someone because she’s got ovaries and doesn’t use a teleprompter is not going to fix our country’s problems.
I recall that during her VP acceptance speech, Palin made some remark that was dismissive of Miranda rights and detainees. I recall how the left wing went after her, all sexist comments, all having nothing to do with the ideological nature of her views and all having to do with the fact that she was a woman and possibly not very smart. Apart from the smart thing, the criticisms sounded entirely too reminiscent of the primaries. I never heard a left wing pundit call her out for her Miranda views or other political positions. It was always something personal.
Watching Washington Journal this morning, they are interviewing newspaper editors from New Hampshire and Orlando. They tell us that the Tea Party people criticize Republicans and Democrats. They are anti-incumbent more than anything else. They say they began from all the money given to the banks and Wall Street, yet no new regulations have been proposed. That money is gone. Now they’ll use that fact to go after more spending although the only thing left, the so called entitlement spending,is the safety net we all depend on. The deficit is rising but its because the unemployed are not contributing anymore and we’re fighting people all over the world. Get folks to work, tax receipts rise, people spend. I don’t think we’ve heard yet how much bailout/stimulous money went overseas. Dak? Are you up?
When folks say TEA Partiers go after Democrats and Republicans they usually gloss over the reason why; the target in question is not far enough to the right for them.
I just read that article by Peter Daou on SP. Seemed like a very fair piece and actually reflected some journalism—as in running down some facts. It sounds to me like if Palin is launched on the activities he reports, then she is making good use of her money and she is no dummy. Whether that does her any good or not remains to be seen. It is clear to me that the Republican establishment is very skittish about her; they recognize and drool over her star power but fear her “common sense” or lack thereof and the baggage from the 08 campaign.
If Dems see MSNBC as their media mouthpiece for the New Dem party, they are going down hard.
Link? What is SP?
Sarah Palin
Oh! I thought the “article by Peter Daou on SP” referred to a site abbreviated ‘SP’. Is this article on HuffingtonPost or somewhere else?
After much thought, I have to conclude that Joan is a full fledged Obama supporter and part of the New Coalition Democrats. She protests too much about all of the Obama administration and Democratic Congress bone headed moves and then retreats back to Salon to make Republicans look like boogie men. She’s amping the fear factor and turning young and ignorant pseudo intellectual party faithful into terrorized mirror images of their Republican counterparts.
She’s in on it.
Can we please put Joan Walsh on mute from now on?
(nodding) I’ve checked up on her now and then these last 6 months or so. But, it’s almost like she’s taken a stupid-pill. I KNOW she’s not really stupid — but, she’s sure thinking inconsistently. And as my sister (who WAS an Obot) said last week, “Why did we think we should pay for a subscription to Salon?” — those days are long past!
She’s using the same propaganda techniques on Palin as the Obots used on Clinton. Oooooo, Sarah is going to usher in a Republican Third Reich!
Mebbe, but I’m betting that the Democrats have a LOT to do with making that Republican wet dream come true.
I put Joan Walsh on mute about the same time I muted Tweety and Olberman, cuz she pretty much played to their lead-in lines. She’s definitely in on it and has been since the primaries.
Welcome aboard.
Yeah, she’s a real piece of work. For awhile there, I thought she was trying to be a voice of reason. But she always capitulates to them in the end.
She’s slick, that’s for damn sure. But I’m not falling for it.
Journalists should not be party hacks.
and Peggy Noonan, Sally Quinn, and Maureen Dowd too. Good Morning R.D. how are things in the Garden State? Here in the boroughs of the Big Apple, we didn’t get all the snow they predicted. The egg on the faces of the meteorologist could feed the whole city.
Well, we didn’t get the 20+ inches in NJ but we got enough to make clearing the driveway a nice 20 minute workout. I love how the snowplow pushes all of the snow to the end of my driveway because of my location on the cul de sac. It’s packed too! That’s what happens to light fluffy snow when it’s pushed together on a blg yellow blade as it goes counterclockwise on the street.
The next time this happens though, I will be prepared:
If that doesn’t work, try this:
That sounds so cool with the google translate audio thingy.
I did not know Google had that – thank you.
I have a new toy to play with.
Oh my, that wasn’t what I thought it was! lol
I am beginning to think that you have been getting lessons from Mr. Lopez’s goat…
Hey, now wait ‘UNO MINUTO’, madre means MOTHER! You are naughty klown.
That would be my first choice, actually.
Works every time.
If Dakinikat is around, I’d like her to comment on this article on how Obama has Keynes completely wrong.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/04/news/economy/meltzer_keynes.fortune/index.htm
This is what I don’t get about Obama’s economic plan. The private sector drives permanent job creation, period. Yes, I know that state and federal employees need to be retained (though perhaps not so many as we think, and not at wages far above the private sector.) But the entire focus of Obama’s plans does seem to be all about propping up and even expanding govt, jobs, while doing NOTHING to stimulate the private sector.
I think Dkat planned to lock herself in a closet with a big bottle of whiskey until tomorrow.
nah, I was celebrating at a Victory party down here here in New Orleans at the redone Roosevelt. I was a Mitch volunteer. For some reason, electing a mayor was more important to me than Mardi Gras or the Super Bowl. silly me.
Between the mayoral election celebrations and the partying for the Saints, I’m willing to bet New Orleans is in the streets today. Dak’s probably staying home, safe and sound. Don’t blame her.
TODAY I’m staying safe at home. I poll danced yesterday. Also, I have a herd of emily’s friends here from LSU for the next two weeks. I play taxi mom, clean towel mom, and ensure fridge is fulled with food mom for the next two weeks as the come back and forth from all over the place. Gotta a few of them to pick up from the airport next weekend. They’re coming down from Nebraska.
Glad you’re safe and sound.
I am also an LSU graduate (undergrad and grad), although how many decades ago, I don’t talk about anymore. lol
Have fun — a house full of college kids is so much fun!
First let me say that I’m not an economist. But I broused your like real quick and it sounds like a Friedmanite is giving his views on Keynes. The guy said that the Administration doesn’t understand that deficits have to be paid for in the future. The Administration isn’t THAT stupid. They just know they won’t be in office when the bill comes due.
Secondly, one of the justifications given by the Administration for the bank bail-outs was it would get banks lending again. Except they’re not lending. I found a couple of other problems with the viewpoint in the article, but I’ll have to read it again more thoroughly.
that should read : broused your LINK
Yeah, I didn’t agree with all in the article. But there are some points there that are true.
that quote looks right. Let me go look at the rest of the article. You’ll recall the big public works programs were actually aimed at infrastructure that supports businesses. Things like the Hoover dam or the bridges, are big projects that business can’t do but need to get to their customers. Keynes assumed that the private sector would eventually pick up the slack. Then the deficits would go away as would the government programs.
Just a little OT but wait til tonight when Katie Couric interviews Obama during the SUPERBOWL PRE-GAME SHOW! If people weren’t sick of the guy already, thats gonna do it. The guy must insert himself into anything and everything. Talk about over-exposure, even for the President.
I bet Katie doesn’t ask him what newspapers he reads.
She’ll probably ask him something like: what do you consider to be a real breakfast of champions? what did you have this morning?
“Do you want a pillow to sit on? Can I fluff it for you?”
“How great is it being you?”
Gee, do you think Katie Couric will nail him on the anti-choice superbowl ad from his pals at Focus on the Family? Because I would like to see him defend that shit.
I will be rooting for the Saints today and doubly so for Scott Fujita.
She might; and he’ll respond with something like: everyone’s got a right to air their views, that’s the greatness of America, blah, blah, blah. The question will be framed in such a way as to not require the issue of choice to be addressed in the answer; just whether or not CBS should air the ad.
Do ya think she will ask him what magazines he reads and then ask what was the last article that impressed him.
Anyone read this NYT article about Sarah Palin?
Snippet:
And guess what word they are using for her? The one word that I never see used for a male politician from either party.
There’s another word – “polarizing”
Pretty much the same thing.
Yep. But you won’t see the NYTimes mention any of the polls showing Barak Obama as THE most “polarizing” president in the last 30 years, including Richard Nixon.
THAT fact doesn’t show up in the NYTimes.
Divide and conquer?
Palin can divide the Republican Party and Obama can continue to let the air out of the Democratic party. Up rises a populist party and bingo!
I know what your point is. That’s how to get at a woman. Not like her. To get at a man one has to use a more diverse barrage of mud slinging.
Keep us off the issues. Bankers get more bonuses.
Here they are criticizing crib notes while worshipping a guy who can’t even put two words together without a teleprompter. That’s ironic.
I just don’t understand it. The Obots keep Palin going. Seriously, I never even think of Sarah Palin as a potential president and then the Obots start festering over her all over again. THEY are the ones giving her all this publicity. If I were Sarah I would send the whole lot of them thank you cards.
She’s a media person. She’s making money hand over fist, making hay while the sun shines. Who wouldn’t? But a serious contender for President? No way. Her own party would make sure that wouldn’t happen. Do we really think Newt is going to help Sarah have his coveted slot? They will knee-cap her so badly she will need a walker. The Obots don’t need to do a thing. Her own party will skewer her. So why do they not just shut up about her? They must REALLY feel threatened by her.
Seriously, she may poll well as a media personality but there is no way she could get the following for a Presidency. No Pro Choice person can vote for her. No person who objects to religion mixing with government can vote for her. In fact, people were so sick of that for 8 years that it gave us Obama as president. People were just sick of religious zealots riding roughshod over them so they picked The Other Guy. People were sick of government paying so much attention to whether or not a graven image that warns against graven images should be posted in court houses, that the whole damned economy crumbled around them.
Sarah knows what she’s doing and it’s not running for President. She quit a governorship, which makes her a quitter in the world of politics, but she did it for a very good reason, to make money. Considering the bucks she’s racking up, how dumb exactly IS she? It seems to me that the dumb ones are the ones who keep perpetuating her name by complaining about her and calling her names. That would be a bunch of loony deranged Democrats doing her work for her and giving her free PR. She doesn’t care what they think. Every time they whine about her or fester about her, she makes more money and gets more attention. So who’s dumb again? And if they keep it up, she might just get where they don’t want her to be–with their free help, because her following is going to do what she says and she knows it. That gives her a whole lot more clout over who gets elected where than people like Ms. Walsh will ever have.
I’m a pro-choice atheist and I’d vote for Sarah in a heartbeat.
Sarah Palin is a social and fiscal conservative. You could argue that she’s taking these positions for political reasons but given where she started put from, it’s just as likely that she’s comfortable with them.
She’s telling you what she believes. She’s on the same wavelength as Mike Huckabee and the rest of her party.
There was a time when I voted for her as a protest vote against what the Democrats did to their own party. But I wouldn’t do it again.
I wouldn’t underestimate her. She’s a threat to everything I believe in.
She’s not Hitler in heels though.
And water is wet.
I as a hispanic could never vote for a party who wants me deported because I am an hispanic or threatens me by saying I should be shot in the head and get sent to mexico in a bodybag. Or a party who supports the minuteman who go into the home of a hispaic family,who they think are illegal aliens to rob them and in the process,kill the father,knock out the mother,and kill their 8-9 year old daughter who is in the corner crying for dad and them no to kill her. You,the republicans,conservtives, and teabaggers pefer to support those people more power to you. I chose to support those who would not want to kill me and my 3 year old daughter. But hey differnt strokes for differnt folks.
You’re either off your meds or on someone else’s.
You were already banned from here a long time ago and I have better things to do than play with a troll on Super Bowl Sunday.
Buh-bye!
Since when are we teabaggers? WTF?!
You don’t like the truth,so you ban me.
The same people who did this are the teabaggers who were cheering tancredo.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/shawna-fordes-killer-minutemen
You were banned because you’re a troll. A troll who can’t read.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/tea-parties-are-for-mad-hatters/
You really are out of your league here. If you truly believe the people at the confluence support the violence you are describing, then you haven’t understood one word written at this blog.
Frankly, I am having trouble grasping how you can stomach being here with that opinion; off-base and inaccurate as it is.
I’m thinking, though, you really are just here to taunt and distract. Did you just get put on a timeout at another liberal blog?
I disagree with your assessment and a pro choice person did vote for her(I did).
She isn’t a religious zealot. She put a pro choice person despite her personal preferences while governor of Alaska. She vetoed a bill that discriminated against gay couples despite her personal beliefs. Neither of those is the actions of a zealot.
Despite her anti choice position I still felt I could vote for Sarah Palin because I did agree with much of what the group Feminists for Life had done in regards to womens efforts. They helped support the Domestic Violence Act. They helped pass a law that deals with deadbeat dads. They were for passing a law that gave some sort of support net for women in college who found themselves pregnant and chose to keep a baby(I value choice and choice includes being able to choose to continue a pregnancy if you wish). Additionally as governor she increased funding for Head Start and increased funding for health care for low income children(at a time where other states were throwing children off the rolls).
I see all of the above in a positive light. I do not agree with her on many issues and I do believe that she lately has taken to hyperbole and rhetoric over substance (death panels and her commentary last night on Obama and security/defense)but I also see the record of someone who appears to be a fairly well reasoned person and because of that I would not completely discount voting for her even though she is anti choice.
But you do realize you would be voting against your own best interests, right? Exactly how atheist is atheist and how pro choice is pro choice? For example a pro choice woman past childbearing might not really care any longer in terms of Self. Then she would have to decide whether Self is more importan than The Whole. And an athiest will have to resolve that God will be The Co-Pilot again. I’m not even an atheist and I shiver at that thought myself.
It would only be against someone’s best interests if the other candidate was better.
And by better I mean not just what policies they claim to support but what they would actually do while in office.
It’s not as simple a choice as that. People have many “self interests”. And no one gets to decide what those interests are but themselves. Perhaps for some, a woman in office outweighs other things. Or breaking the power of the machine politics and elitist poobahs over this country is a higher good for some. People are not that simple.
I get a little annoyed at critiquing anyone for voting against their own interests – because that very critique assumes that the speaker has a much better idea of the person’s own interests than they do themselves. And isn’t that a wee bit presumptive?
It’s annoying, sometimes, that people are not willing to admit that “choice” means accepting Sarah Palin’s choice for herself and her own life, too.
She never imposed those “choices” on Alaskans, but she’s not ashamed to say what her own “choices” actually are. She separates those things.
Choice means choice, and that includes Sara’s choices in her own life, like it or not.
Anything else is pure demagoguery, and intellectually inconsistent.
I don’t bash people who are atheists, even though I’m a Christian. Private choices are private choices, and I respect their right to make their choices as much as I expect them to respect my right to same.
One wonders why Obama’s supporters can’t respect his request for “civility,” doesn’t one?
But that’s my point sister. It all depends on what thing is more important to you. But I couldn’t say that being pro choice was REALLY important to me if I were willing to vote for an anti choice person. What I would be saying is it’s not AS important to me as something esle. Right?
For me, the trump card is always separation of church and state. Without that I believe women will sink faster than a rock. For others, well not so important.
But what if neither major party candidate was pro-choice?
Do you abstain from voting, vote 3rd party or pick the lesser of two evils?
I have a 16 year old daughter. Choice matters to me. However, if my choice is between someone who say they are pro choice but chooses to continue to call birth control an abortifactent, or decides that low income birth control or the rights of women to access to a medical procedure such as abortion are negotiable and someone like Sarah Palin, who in the very least seems to believe in social safety nets, then I will likely choose Sarah Palin
Partial birth, birth control relabelling and increase in price while a decrease in funding for supportof this low cost choice, and the health care debate make the Dems crediility on commitment to choice to be on pretty shaky ground.
As far as Sarah’s relationship with God. I don’t see it as much different then the guy presently in office. He has expanded faith based programs, has capitulated to the church on womens reproductive choice(see above) . It might be different if I saw an offensive from Democrats but I don’t beyond a few words at some breakfast. It might be different.It’s not though.
If forced to choose between Obama and Palin I could very well ending up flipping a coin because neither is philosophically close to me. However, with Sarah Palin, I’m not going to get the media veneer and the sneering of how liberal she is and she, at least is upfront about her belief system(instead of being against mandates before you were for them, against excise taxes before you were for them…..)
I can relate to what you are saying, all I AM saying is it’s a matter of what’s REALLY the most important to a voter. At least to our kind of voters. Some people just vote party. I would have to have a firm commitment that religion and anti choice were not part of her agenda, and I do mean a public commitment. But then she would lose her far right base. So I wouldn’t expect that from her. So I wouldn’t know if her “choices” were going to have to be the choices of others based on the way in which she leads or influences legislation. Not knowing that I would have to say I would be afraid of the domestic agenda we had under bush, only stronger. However, if Obama were running against Palin, I would probaby stay home unless I knew for sure that her agenda was not going to be Bushesque. But hey, that’s just me. ANd my original post was my opinion which I assumed I could post freely.
Of course you can freely post your opinion here.
But others can freely disagree with you.
I didn’t take offense to anything you said and hope you didn’t take any offense to my words(it wasn’t my intent).
I’m not a ideologue. I define myself as a liberal but I see some value to conservative structures such as tradition,or the once upon a time idea of fiscal prudence. Small government on it’s face isn’t a bad idea, providing that small government is effective. In a more liberal environment then where I am(I’m in SW Virginia) I’d probably be considered a moderate.
I respect the choice of not voting and understand it. It isn’t a choice I’d make though. Too many years in a uniform I guess.
(((waving hi Uppity Woman)))
I visit your site and glad to see you here.
CWaltz, Of course I didn’t take offense. I just love riling people up.
I hope this post lands in the right spot as I am Stack-Challenged.
I’m the atheist, not cwaltz. And as a Gynocrat, I believe that voting for other women is voting for my best interests. As WMCB pointed out, some of us believe that breaking the political machine is in, not just mine, but everyone’s best interests.
Voting for a misogynistic jerk like Obama doesn’t do women’s rights any good. If anything, it sets us back.
Oh, and when an atheist runs on a major ticket, I’ll vote for them regardless of gender. But I’m not holding my breath.
Yes I know you are the atheist, I was just too lazy to post twice. Sorry.
Look, when it comes down to Obama or ANYBODY, I would vote for Dracula before I would vote for him. But more likely I would just stay home if I found the other choices to be against what is important to me.
I would LOVE to vote for an atheist. At least I would know he or she would be paying attention to the business of government instead of eveybody’s bedroom and religion.
I’m cool with that. I don’t wear my Christianity on my sleeve…….neither do I engage in the threads that seem to bash Christians. I don’t preach about it or “batter” anyone with it.
Sarah Palin never imposed her private choices on Alaskans. That, for me, is the key.
What she DID do, was stand up to good-ole-boys-in-the-oil-bidness in Alaska, gaining more state income, so the middle class wasn’t as screwed financially by the big boys hiding their profits in Switzerland.
I didn’t see ole Timmy Geithner have that kinda ballsiness, did you?
I have to admit the last Supreme Court vote gave me the heebee gibeez and gives me great concern since these next elections will be filled with money via the NEW PERSONS who aren’t alive or breathing, but are corporations.
That whole argument about voting against their own “best interest” is dead. There is no real measurable difference imho between the current Democrats and Republicans. Obama has kept the same people in power and is running his presidency as if he were GW. The Democrats have all the power and are inept at doing the right thing so they claim they need “more” Democrats. They are Republicrats! When you have two parties that are essentially Pete and Repeat, there is no “best interest” argument. The winner for both of these parties happens to be the corporations, not the little guy who is voting.
Amen.
Hey Uppity, you have no right to demand how anyone is thinking of voting, how s/he plans to vote, is voting, or did vote.
It’s part of ever person’s franchise and it’s none of your fucking business.
Your presumptively “racist” label is ridiculous: depriving others of their franchise by feigning that racism agains YOU has occurred because they won’t take YOUR loyalty oath is a non-starter.
She appointed an anti-abortion judge over an anti-abortion judge whose environmental views she vehemently disagreed with. Rock and a hard place. And the “sit on your hands and whine” option had already been tried by her predecessor to no avail.
And, all those alternative choice options you list are nice “in addition to,” and not, “in place of.”
She had the option of sending both those choices back- it’s what zealot would have done. She did not.
That’s the “sit on your hands and whine” option. And, I don’t see where you have to go to the zealotry extreme to be an unwise choice as a candidate. Her pragmatism in that singular instance doesn’t really make her more attractive to me, or give me any assurances that she won’t tack further right if given the slightest opportunity.
Again, a zealot ,by definition would not have cared about the political implications of “sitting on your hands and whining.”
The definition of zealot is “fanatically committed.” A person fanatically committed to anti choice would never have sent an anti choice judge to the bench. She would have sent them back.
Using your own words, her decision could be considered politically calculated, not zealotry(since she choose not to sit on her hands since it didn’t work for her predecessor).
I don’t know about you but I EXPECT my politicians to be politically calculating. I actually count on it.
Sarah Palin’s views on choice are not my only concern. That being said, I also expect voters to be politically calculating to the point of discernment. In other words, not to use a politically calculated capitulation as a rallying point.
That’s the “she could be worse” argument.
That’s actually NORMAL. Every criticism lodged at opposition to the O-team is actually a deflection. You can always be sure the O-team is doing exactly what they are accusing others of. It gives the illusion they aren’t doing it. [Say or do anything to get elected, using the r@ce card, contacted Canada to say the NAFTA renegotiation comments were just political posturing, etc. etc. etc.]
You are, of course, right.
I loathe to mention Alinsky, but it’s his big tactic. Accuse your opponent of the thing you’re doing.
Flashback to the race card pre-South Carolina primary.
Ick Ick Ick Shame on the Democratic Party.
It’s a common tactic used by control freaks and bullies. You get caught off-guard and left unable to respond. If you try to point out it is their characteristic, you are quickly accused of the “I know you are, but what am I” defense, which, of course, is immature and desperate. I have an ex-husband control freak, and older sibling bully who are known for that technique.
Well, I agree with you, Uppity. I hope you’re onto something and Palin doesn’t take a premature stab at running for POTUS. She’s not ready. I’m not sure she ever will be, but she’s certainly not presidential material, yet. That being said, I would love to see a woman in the Oval Office. Hillary Clinton is the gold standard in this regard.
But comments like that have brought out accusations of “vagina envy” from other posters. Not even sure what that means. I have a vagina, thank you very much. And one is plenty :0).
Or supporters will wail: well, she has as much experience as Obama. Okay, I’ll go for that. But then, I didn’t vote for Barack Obama and frankly, I want the bar raised, not stuck at the wrteched level we’ve seen for the last 9 years.
If she’s making money? Good for her. There’s no crime in that. But to pretend that Sarah Palin is the remedy to Barack Obama is foolish. And desperate.
So what is the remedy to Obama?
Romney? Huckleberry?
Which is why I watch her and watch where we are careening…….If I have to choose between putting someone like Palin in power over someone like Jindal because the New Democrats have destroyed the Democratic brand for the next few cycles I will do so.
Better someone with a moderate record that shows some sort of respect for political calculation then someone crazy or liable to do harm because he is an ideologue and a zealot.
My guess is that she doesn’t even WANT to run for president. She saw this as an opportunity to make some money and secure her family’s future and she took it.
She said it is bad for rahm to say retard,but not limpballs. The dude can help her govern,but hillary gets attacked for helping with healthcare.
These comments show why you defend palin and not hillary,palin is the innocent mom and hillary is just a fat ass jealous cow. Now I know why hillary won’t run in 2012, because after reading this,hillbuzz,tgf, and puma pac she lost her support to palin. Hillary’s true supporters will always have her back and not treat her like trash.
What color is the sky in your world?
Hillary won’t run in 2012 because she knows that her own party won’t allow her to win. She already won the primary once. You think if she wins it again that they’ll finally give her the nomination? Hell no.
Um, nothing that you just said is true about us here. You’re nuts.
She said no such thing.
Here’s reality
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/palin-camp-rips-limbaugh-hits-his-retard-comment-as-crude-and-demeaning/
Which part of “crude and demeaning” do you not get?
Hillary supporters HERE tend to be grounded in reality. We don’t need to make things up about opponents. We feel strongly that a well reasoned debate on the pros and cons are much better and stronger ways to win support than pretending something that isn’t real is.
You might want to check on an Obot site though. They are all about pretend fauxrage and making things up about your opponent.
Bullshit!!!
She said in her interview this morning on Fox that it was okay for limpballs to use the word retard because he was making fun of liberals who she called kooks. Go to fox.com for the transcript or huffington post. But you probably don’t believe that because your precious, sweet,shero sarah would never say that.
Please,you don’t support hillary now because she works for that “evil kenyan sociaist”.
I want hillary to run in 2012. She would actually work for the people,get stuff done,piss off teabaggers,neocons,limpball,republicans,so called progressives. She would also get to spend more time with her crush/boytoy Miliband.
Where is a post where you guys go after those who attack hillary like you do for your shero palin. You guys are just like hillbuzz,pumapac,hillary is 44,no quarter, and will bower all so called hillary supporters who use her to attack President Obama. She learned from president obama just to work,dust the hate off her shoulders and tell the haters,republicans,teabaggers and so called supporters to go to hell and I am glad she learned that from President Obama.
Real hillary supporters/liberals are at stillforhill’s blog,stacy’ secretay clinton blog at wordpress,commom ground politics,democratic underground.
Don’t drink and blog.
Wow, well I’m glad that Hillary learned to work from Obama. Now if someone would only teach him…
FAUX News interview transcript:
Reading comprehension is a life skill.
Well, I have to agree that Palin is giving Limbaugh a pass. But that doesn’t make us at TC teabaggers or supporters of Palin or Tancredo.
Up until yesterday she was okay, but she was clearly giving Limbaugh a pass this morning and that’s weak. Not the end of the world, but too bad that she’s letting Wapo/Arianna/Olbermann to turn this back on her. She needs to point out how the Washington establishment is investing way more energy pushing her into a corner to comment on what an entertainer is saying than they did in going after what the WH Chief of staff said in the first place.
LOL – someone needs a reading comprehension course.
LOL! Or more meds.
Let Them Listen
http://letthemlisten.wordpress.com/
Most appropriate name, considering that some are saying ‘La, La, La’ and not listening to SOS Hillary R. Clinton or to those of us who still hold out hope that Hillary will FINALLY GET HER DARN ROLL CALL VOTE!
Support for Hillary 2012
RD, Dak, Katie, myiq2xu et all,
Can you add
Let Them Listen
http://letthemlisten.wordpress.com/
to the blog roll since Wonk The Vote is now a front pager? Pretty Please. (((praying real hard)))
sure!!
Dak.
Thanks you Rock !
I would throw them all under the bus if Hillary could run in 2012. She should be president this minute. She would have never taken this health care reform crap, she would have taken a stand. What a travesty we are living with.
Yup, I would go all over the country campaigning for her and so would many others throughout the country. I am glad that she is getting recognized world wide as the leader that she is and that she has been working at it for four decades. Yes, experience matter and she is the best candidate for POTUS that just happens to be a woman; Hillary R. Clinton.
I was just thinking today that if she runs I will be right back there to donate and work on her campaign. I would consider it an honor.
Hillary frequently mentions her idea about all citizens being able to live up to “their God given potential.” I’d like to see her in the position she’s made for, where her incredible potential could be fully realized. Then we’d have a true champion of the people in the White House.
we would all do that upp..
in a heartbeat.
Although, as I posted above, I doubt winning the Dem primary a second time would get her the nomination. She would have to run third party, and she’s too loyal to do that.
Whoa. Cleanup, Aisle 6. lol.
ROTFLMAO! We don’t defend Hillary?!! That’s one of the best troll comments yet! Wow…are you sure you didn’t get take a wrong turn in internetland?
Hillarious, huh? But my favorite was how Hill learned how to work from B0. That absolutely takes the cake.
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Dead-on comment about the media, from a commenter on Hillaryis44:
Bingo. The Village really has little to do with ideology, whether liberal or conservative. It has to do with THEM, and their position as the self-appointed lords of public discourse.
Self-appointed?
Who pays their salaries? Are they saying what they really think or what they are told to say?
I do believe that the ego of the people in the media would allow them to believe themselves the “self appointed keepers” despite the fact that they are not the actual creators of messaging.
They don’t seem to have a problem with being intellectually dishonest with others, I wouldn’t be surprised if that overlapped into being intellectually dishonest with their own selves.
I’ve never underestimated a person’s ability to rationalize things when it is in their own self interest to do so.
Rd, Uppity, Blue Lyon, Cinie all on the same thread! Wow! might Joe Cannon show up next. Or perhaps Edge. Edge where are you?
I’m actually amazed.
Sarah managed to pack an entire speech onto one side of one hand Contrast that with POTUS, who needs two semi-silvered panels placed at eye height on either side, and about $10K worth of hardware to operate them. He rarely makes eye contact as he tries to look natural, head boobing side to side, reading his entire speech off TOTUS.
I didn’t notice Sarah’s hand scrolling so fast that she lost her location in her speech. I didn’t notice any strangely accented words (like corpseman). I didn’t notice her accidentally congratulating herself when her hand stopped moving.
Finally, I hope Sarah keeps pissing in BO’s and these bottom feeders Cherrios.
The Obot meme is “everybody uses Teleprompters” but “everybody” is not as heavily dependent on them as Obama is and “everybody” was not proclaimed a master orator based on one speech.
And she was smart enough to only put comments on one hand, thus preventing the hypnotizing left-right-left-right head bob that so plagues telepresident.
12 noon CNN – Candy Crowley interview with Hillary.
Thanks I almost missed it…I woke up late as I think I am catching a cold.
Awesome! I wrote about this topic this morning too. It is so transparently ridiculous, especially when he’s the TOTUS. Any critical thinker can see she’s the smarter of the two just by this story. It is backfiring on them, and it makes them look petty. Amanda Terkel is leading the charge, as usual. I always hated mean girls.
Obama’s presidency has been reduced to what Sarah Palin has (or doesn’t have) on her left hand.
Bwaaaaaaaaa!!!!
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NPR News Report – Supreme Court Campaign Finance Hearings (the Supreme Court gave corporations more power ‘RIGHTS’ than voters/persons and sunk the campaign reforms)
In Landmark Campaign Finance Ruling, Supreme Court Removes Limits on Corporate Campaign Spending
Notice that the ‘Tea Party’ folks didn’t protest this? HEMMMM…makes one wonder does it not!?!
The Tea Party folks are very much against the powerful corporations owning our government—it’s why they’re against the bank bailouts and the too-cozy relationship of Wall Street and Obama’s economic advisors.
It’s why they want ALL the incumbents voted out of office next time.
I’m not 100% on that pronouncement. They seem perfectly happy to give the health care industry tax funds and are vehemently against a government solution.
I’ve read in a couple of places where Tea Party activists don’t like this at all. Just remember there is no Tea Party central committee, so we don’t have big statements yet.
Well, I did listen to the video and the video said they want ALL CONSERVATIVES and that is WHO GAVE CORPORATIONS more rights than the VOTERS.
Did you hear/see the video above in this post?
I don’t trust the source anymore than other partisan sources. Thanks very much.
OT, there has been a “massive explosion” at a power plant in Middletown, CT with multiple fatalities and injuries. Smoke reportedly can been seen for miles around.
Just in case anyone is interested. It sounds terrible.
BB,
Flipped all the channels and nothing is on there yet.
My mom heard it on CNN and called me bec/ we have relatives in CT. from Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585040,00.html
Reuters: Mass casualties in CT blast: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61619Q20100207
The local CBS station WFSB reported on its website: “Police in Middletown said there was an explosion with mass casualties just before 11:30 a.m. at the Kleen Energy plant on River Road.”
Officer Kevin White of Middletown Police told Reuters he did not know how many people were on site at the time of the accident but there were “mass casualties.” He had no word on possible fatalities.
White said tests were being run at the time and the plant was new and had not gone on line.
Middletown, a college town, is 23 miles south of the city of Hartford. Emergency vehicles and at least one helicopter were called to the scene.
The explosion was felt in neighboring towns as far away as East Haven, a distance of 30 miles, and black smoke was visible for miles (km) around.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61619Q20100207
Two people have been confirmed dead, said Middletown, Connecticut, police Sgt. Chuck Jacobucci, but authorities expect the number to rise since they are still searching for people.
More than 100 emergency service units, including fire, police and emergency management, were responding, he said.
Middlesex Hospital in Middletown, about 15 miles from Hartford, Connecticut, said it was receiving patients from the blast, which occurred about 11:30 a.m. at the Kleen Power Plant.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/07/connecticut.explosion/
OT, also. The PA Democrat Party has endorsed Alen Specter over Joe Sestak. Oh, well. Maybe it is not such a bad thing since the party endorsement seems to be the kiss of death these days.
That’s so weird. I guess they did that because Spector has seniority–but if he’s not voting with Dems, so what?
Interesting. NV Dems are forbidden in their bylaws to endorse in a primary. Same with county parties. Doesn’t mean individuals can’t endorse and work for candidates, but the parties themselves are supposed to stay neutral. I’m surprised it’s different elsewhere.
I’ve looked at the video a couple of times and I’m not seeing any text on her palm. She seems to be a bit nervous and fidgety, but her palm is quite visible a couple of times and it looks squeaky clean.
Oh wait, her notes were probably in invisible ink. That’s how devious she is.
Lance Mannion:
WTF?
What a ridiculous freakin’ asshat! Seems like he’s projecting.
It sounds like Lance thinks Sarah is too emotional and worries about how she might act at certain times of the month.
Describes the current occupant of the White House.
Great line from Palin’s speech to the tp big tent:
This is about the people, and it’s bigger than any king or queen of the tea party, and it’s a lot bigger than any charismatic guy with a teleprompter.”
Ooohh…Meanie!
Note on the Supremes decision: The SC ruling did NOT overturn the long standing rule that corporations can give to “individual candidates”. That is precisely why Alito mouthed his “that’s not true” at the SOTU speech. That is the law that is over a century old. What they ruled is that corporations can contribute to PACs w/o limit.
The actual ruling may be just as bad since it allows both corporations and unions to contribute to candidates thru PACS but I think it is important to keep the facts sort of in place.
That should be long standing ruling corps can NOT give to individual candidates. Sorry.
I wish Sarah Plain and Simple was a liberal and still an anti-0 gal.
Another Palin one liner I like:
“Contested primaries aren’t civil war,” she said. “They’re democracy at work, and that’s beautiful.”
I am sick of the idea that contesting a primary is bad. I think both parties need to keep out of primary elections. These belong to the voters, not the parties. The parties should come in to back the people’s choice and the parties can protect themselves by keeping primaries open to their party registered voters if they want.
The parties should back the people’s choice, but the nominating process actually does belong to the parties. IIRC, they pay for those pre-election voting processes, which is why some state party charters do caucuses instead of ballots.
They do not have to include us in the process of selecting the party nominee; it’s just smarter for them to do so.
Ruh-roh! Turns out Obama writes notes on his hand too:
ROFLOL! It also looks like he’s white and has his nails manicured in a rather feminine style.
NYTimes might drop news about Governor Paterson tomorrow that could lead to resignation.
http://www.businessinsider.com/source-nyts-david-paterson-bombshell-to-break-tomorrow-governors-resignation-to-follow-2010-2
Saw a picture of Sarah Palin campaigning for Perry in Texas today. She made sure that the palm of her left hand was showing in the picture. It had “Hi Mom” written on it. It took me a half hour to clean the Sprite off my keyboard.
Following my reply to Uppity Woman upstream, I would recommend to the regents of this site:
automatically tank anyone in addition to the aforementioned commenter who breezes in demanding that anyone here justifies their past or future votes …
- in any party’s primary;
- in any election;
- in any area of the democratic process
It’s not censorship. It’s not free speech. They have no right even to ask.