Today, our illustrious supermajority in the House of Representatives voted to adopt a Democratic proposed amendment from Representative Stupak of Michigan, which basically denies a vast number of women access to insured coverage of women’s reproductive care. In other words it expands the same type of exclusions found in the infamous “Hyde Amendment” to anything insurance plan that has some type of subsidy or credit attached. Women who currently have this coverage will lose it because of this move.
The final bill passed following that outrageous affront to women everywhere. As noted by our brilliant commenter WonktheVote:
Women are openly being treated like second-class, subhuman citizens in this healthcare “overhaul” effort.”
Let me repeat that one more time so it is not forgotten:
“Women are openly being treated like second-class, subhuman citizens in this healthcare “overhaul” effort.”
Therefore we need to provide some motivation and sisters, we hold the key to fierce legislative pushback on this travesty. I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore!
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All right!! Let the Vagina Wars begin!
here here!
I’m glad to see a little outrage here—-! Obama went to the house and inspired women to relinquish their reproductive rights by describing the larger sacrifices that others have made! And they fell for it!!! So what if the sentate Republicans decide it’s worth voting for Obamacare solely in order to insure the death of abortion! just what they always wanted! They’ve really put one over on the Democrats and on the women who supported this travesty! How could they be so gullible?
this is what they ALWAYS do …
http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/women-under-carriages-under-street-cars-and-under-buses/
My college-student daughter and her friend who was over tonight like this idea. Of course, they are not calling it Vagina Wars. They are referring to it as The Great Pussy Rebellion.
Someone should make some coathanger lapel pins, as well. I’d wear one.
Good idea. I’ll wear the coathanger pin!
I like that too. I probably would’ve gotten banned by wordpress if I chose the other title. Who the hell cares though at this point?
I will become an expat next year — with zero regrets.
There IS a war on women.
FUCK the Democrat party.
Will any of this shake the O-bots out of their kool-ade induced stupor?
I doubt it.
I’d go to Kos or FDL to see what the excuses will be but I don’t want to spin their hit counters as it means higher ad revenue.
Anybody know how Sestak voted?
Sestak voted yes on the bill, no on the amendment.
To me a yes on the bill was the same as a yes on the amendment once it got included. Shame on him.
I had a heart to heart with a Obot female friend and told her how bad this amendment was and what the other bad issues in many of the bills are. Especially the senate bill. I talked and talked. And all she could say was, so you’re on the side of Lieberman then. And when did I become a horrible republican. And how we all have to stick together to help Obama. I just can’t believe it. And now she won’t talk to me.
So you asked if this will shake any Obots out of their kool-aid stupors. I’m sad to say I doubt it. It feels like the Dem convention all over again with a horrible thing happening and no one giving a damn or even noticing or understanding other than a handful of ex-dems here and a few other sites. What the hell is wrong with people.
When it comes to hardcore Failbots, nothing’s going to shake them out of their stupors. Even if they started doubting, they wouldn’t admit it, because it’s less embarassing to just keep pretending over admitting to being wrong on such an epic level for so little reason. Face saving at the core.
Yup. I can tell there’s some doubting by reading between the lines. But when I would try to get at some of it, the defenses would come up, the chanting and babbling would start. Just like religious freaks in old days in college. Fingers in ears, la la la la.
It’s interesting though that as they start to figure out something isn’t quite right, they put the walls up and then get angry at anyone who also has doubts or worse, is sure things are not going well.
I think it’s because they took it so far. Obama was the truth and the light, Hillary was the monster from the pit of hell. Anything was justified in pursuit of this cause. After you embraced this kind of apocalyptic narrative and these scorched Earth tactics, how do you back off from it? You’ve really dug yourself into a hole. And it takes so much character to admit how wrong you were and deal with the humiliation. It’s so much easier to get defensive and try to pretend it was all justified and ignore that sick, embarassed feeling inside.
They will shake out of their stupor when they need even a first tri-mester abortion — and can”t get it.
It will not become real unless it becomes personal.
djmm
Lieberman didn’t have the balz to vote….he was MIA. Coward.
Uhhh Vagina wars make me nervous
but this is really interesting. From Gallup, potential net migration effects if people pulled up stakes and moved where they wanted to go. Some surprises for me in the list.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124193/Potential-Net-Migration-Change-Developed-Nations.aspx
Love The Great Pussy Rebellion label though.
Hey! We beat out Iceland … probably because they’re bankrupt.
But we got stomped by Saudi Arabia??????
All the misogynists, and three quarters of the Democrat party want to move there.
OMG, the left blogosphere is all giddy over this.
They’re much stupider than we ever imagined.
Not Open Left or FDL.
Yeah, they have retained their sanity. Although there’s a post at FDL that talks about how many good things are in the bill. UGH. As if we’ll ever see anything since it’s slated for 2013.
Isn’t the world ending in 2012?
That’s what I heard….
That may be better than life under this bill.
You’re an optimist. I don’t have access to TV right now, but I’m sure they’re still at it. We’ve probably already been stripped of our voting rights and by sunrise they’ll be mailing out notices to let us know everybody with a vayjay has been drafted into the new sex slave army and telling us where we have to report.
They don’t want sex slaves–just breeding mares. Forced preganancy is the wave of the future!
We won’t be held in cages, we’ll be held in secure boxes of hope.
LOL! And we’ll have to deliver our own babies, since insurance co’s won’t have to cover reproductive care.
Oh my god — read the DUNE novels.
Sometimes Science Fiction –has very little fiction.
On one plant in this empire of the future there were NO women. Except that there were females. . . . . . . . .
sperm slaves
Meanwhile, Obama is going to send 34,000 more troops to Afghanistan to be cannon fodder.
Thank goodness I’m past menopause!
Ooops, that was supposed to nest under Seriously’s comment.
Just what the world needs, more death and destruction. The one thing that’s never in deficit.
Without even coming here, my mom totally said that women should stop giving it up until they get the rights to which they are entitled.
You’d think he’d care that he’d no longer be able to prevent his daughters from being punished with a baby, in case they made a mistake…
Of course he can. The rules don’t apply to them, only to us. They’ll all still be able to get their daughters and girlfriends taken care of, no worries.
Yep, they are all exempt from the rules. Their coverage doesn’t change a bit.
I’m emigrating. Seriously. I am now engaged to a Frenchman. I’m out of here.
Congratulations on both counts.
Where I will be eventually living — I have friends from France, England, Italy — all expats. Women in the US will be dealing with health issues that OTHER women in more civilized and advanced parts of the world take for granted.
Oh yes MS magazine — and NOW — and the other so called feminists sold women OUT — for what???? To vote for one more penis?
I’m refraining for the moment from writing the 0bot in-laws a very truthful email. Perhaps copying some comments from here and from Violet’s blog etc.
OK, stupid, ignorant, moron Ron is back for round 2. The name calling I got in the previous thread gave me that warm fuzzy feeling I got standing up for Hillary against the misogynistic bots last year. Sure, never mind that I’m a liberal pro-choice Dem who marched with NOW for maintaining Roe years ago.
I don’t like the House bill that passed but if it wasn’t for the Stupak amendment, it wouldn’t have. As it was, it only passed by 3 votes. The Senate version won’t have a whole lot in common with it.
I’m not against the public funding of abortion but some political realities have to be taken into consideration. You asked, “who are these people?” Ask Rahm Emanuel. He’s the guy who pushed for Dems to win in conservative districts. To do that, they had to essentially be DINOs and indistinguishable from their Republican opponents. That meant conservative and pro-life. If they don’t want to be defeated next time they come up for reelection, they had to take a stand against publicly funded abortion. Voice your ire all you want but you’re wasting your breath. All they care about is getting reelected.
The reason I wouldn’t object to public funding of abortion is because women should have the right to choose irrespective of financial situation. All too often, poor women who aren’t using birth control are coerced into having sex with men who refuse to wear a condom. Unwanted pregnancies are bad for everyone. The problem is convincing conservatives of that and I’m talking about voters, not politicians.
If you really want to be effective, public education is the key. This moron used to work at a think tank on Capitol Hill that was involved with voter education and that was in the pre-Internet days. I’ve always liked this site and I just want to be constructive. If I’m unwelcome here, flame away and I’ll quietly go away.
Lately I find myself saying Democrat party instead of Democratic party. Never did that before but it feels kind of good now for some reason. Guess I enjoy that the Dems don’t like it.
other than the fact that it makes you sound exactly like Rush Limbaugh…….
Seriously, thank you.
It’s quite a love story, thirty years in the making.
I look forward to a living in a culture that’s maddeningly patriarchal but at least assures me my most basic rights.
That’s so cool. I read a memoir by an Australian journalist who married a Frenchman and moved to France. She had her struggles with their resistance to what they called her “Anglo-Saxon feminism”
but it seemed like a wonderful, positive experience in general. Best wishes.
I think the French actually like women…remember that this is the land of ‘vive la difference.’ America flat-out hates women.
I spent the day in Richmond at the peace rally for the gang rape victim. The vagina wars have definitely begun.
http://pumaeyes.wordpress.com/
Yep — I’ve been saying that about the Richmond gang rape — it was out and out war.
Gang rape is what happens during war — because men can get away with it.
0zero opened up the hate by showing that it was just fine to make war on women. 0zero is a passive aggressive and probably was pleased to hear about the gang rape(s) and the pure misogyny of this so called health care crap passed tonight by the f&cking House.
I told my old in the trenches feminist friends from the 1970s that Obama would reignite the feminist movement and a few couldn’t believe I said that. Basically said of Dubya didn’t do it , how could Obama?
I feel vindicated now. It’s one thing when you expect a party to be misogynistic, it’s another when the friggin sell you out and promise you ‘change’…
again, so is Obama what a feminist looks like? No fucking way! He’s as opportunistic as dubya was and eager to sell out whoever for it
Taylor Marsh is on Huffpo right now fuming at Pelosi and Obama for selling women out.
And, yet she mocked people for not voting for Obama and/or protest voting against him, painting them as just a few crazy ineffectual wimmenfolkz, under the influence of GOP sockpuppets, cutting of their noses to spite their face.
cutting *off
You know who I really want to hear from? Katha Pollitt. I looked but I don’t think she’s weighed in yet. I wonder if she’s still awed by his ability to “inspire” noxious misogynist twits?
She can go stuff it — but she should STFU.
She sold out — literally SOLD herself. She got the penis she wanted. I have absolutely no use for female backstabbing b&tches like Taylor stupid mass-mellow.
bitches get things done… and want nothing to do with sellouts who only get things done so long as there is a meaningless D stamped on it.
b&tches get stuff done… and want nothing to do with sellouts who only get stuff done so long as a meaningless D is stamped on it.
(trying to work around spammy’s late night snacking habits, so sorry if this repeats)
Well, who listens to Taylor effing Marsh?
yeah, I wonder how her ride on the sippy kup Kruise is going now? I wonder if she’s ready to barf yet.
Taylor probably needs her old demographics back …
No, how much do you hate them? Is that a Mike Malloy reference?
Oh gawd…not Malloy. He owns more tinfoil than I could ever hope to fit in my closet. Plus he jumped on the anti-Hillary bandwagon.
LET THE LYSISTRATA REBELLION COMMENCE!
I firmly believe that all Democrat women should cease from any kind of fraternizing in the boudoir with these penisholders who refuse to assist in recognizing their rights to reproductive health.
Remember the Athenian ladies who withheld intimate favors to their hubbies until the penisheads started to meet their demands? It’s a well-known theatrical reproduction that’s hilarious and we should send a copy to Obummer and Pelass
PERIODICALLY, OBUMMER WILL FEEL DOWN AND START LAUNCHING ATTACKS AGAINST WOMEN’S REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH TO BOOST HIS APPEAL
It would be really nice to add
CBC
right next to BBC. I find the Canadian news station to be far more objective. Try it. You’ll like it!
Obama feminists on twitter are out drinking and celebrating passage of the bill. They are optimistic the Stupak amendment will be dealt with in conference with the Senate. There’s that ‘hope’ again. The House just passed a bill that effectively makes reproductive choice and care only an option for those who can afford it. That is wrong wrong. They ought to be more concerned.
hope/optimism really is the opium of the masses. B. Ehrenreich’s book really nails it when she talks about how “positive thinking” is used as corporate mind-control.
Those who want to be “hopeful” it will be dealt with, that everything will be taken care of for them will NOT be demonstrating and getting angry in the streets. Just what Pelbama wants.
hope is important… what Obama and his cohorts are doing is peddling manufactured Hope™ as an anesthetic. It is the opposite of giving people hope.
good distinction there.
She was one of the first ones to lose her head with the Hopium, though. Her piece about how changing hairstyles is a sign of an unstable personality was a real low point.
oh dear. Her new book is good, however, and much needed right now. I also like many of her previous books. During the never-ending election of 2008 I stayed away from all the Obama hype, because it creeped me out, and none of it seemed informative. Sorry to hear she was part of it. I’m a registered Green, so I couldn’t vote in the primaries anyway.
I read some of her previous books and liked them. I just think it’s weird that the educated classes were so susceptable to Hopium. It seems so odd that the very same people who can diagnose the phenomenon fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
The so-called educated classes voted for Obama because he is black. Their own white racism leads them to believe that (1) all African American people are the same and (2) all African American peole are living in poverty. Therefore, they reasoned, Obama, being black, would be the best president for black people and, by extension, the most progressive president for all Americans. Supporting Obama also gave them the opportunity to “prove” that they were NOT racist (unlike all those bitter knitters) and that they are therefore muy cool.
or should I say Oblosi?
I like Stupad Oblosi.
nice. I’ll be using that then.
now that a lot of these obots will face the future of unwanted pregnancies and have to quit school and no jobs do they really think that backtrack and bunch will increase welfare?
I lived through the years of backstairs abortions and girls dying. At that time girls did not finish school when they got pregnant so that limited their future. Many women died due to high risk pregnancies.
And how many forced marriages ruined many futures?
kids marrying too young and divorced by the time they are in their mid twenties.
All that women worked for these dipshit dems and obots just lost.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALIST AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Maybe Obummer should go to a private screening (with Me-Zero-Feminist-Gardener) to watch ‘PRECIOUS’.
“Periodically, Obummer will get feeling ‘down’ in them polls and will launch attacks against women’s reproductive rights to boost his appeal…”
I just wanted to add that in Italy and in the UK abortions are provided free of charge by the National Health Service.
While no-one likes abortions over here, back alley abortions are considered a step backwards into hell-particularly for the poor.
Here in Italy doctors may refuse to perform abortions on the grounds of their own beliefs. However as far as I know women can find another ( usually younger) doctor within the State hospital system to perform it for them.
Of course being a Catholic country, families do not this lightly. And abortion is not an easy cop out for the male of the species.
Wiki has some interesting data on Italian abortion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Italy
Abortion in Italy was legalized in 1978 following strong campaigning by the Radical Party. A referendum seeking to abrogate the law was held in 1981, but 68% of Italians held firm in favor of legal and safe abortions.
Referendums in Italy have always been successful against arbitrary ecclesiastical power. (divorce, abortion…).
Doesn’t Italy have a very low birthrate too? That’s kind of interesting, what do you think accounts for a low abortion rate plus a low birthrate?
Low sex?
So much abt the myth of the Latin Lover!!
Universal coverage for contraception, maybe?
Poor America – what next – hand me the Burka? If you can’t win the war in Afghanistan – bring it to the US?
Sounds like they want to treat abortions like an elective procedure ie cosmetic surgery. Maybe somebody needs to explains to 0zero the diffference between Botox and an abortion.
Hillary is probably going ballistic over this! I never believed in the changey/hopey message – but you get to the point where you say: Is there any hope? This are going to be 3 looong years!
Fuck the democrats … bring back the National Women’s Party. Until then, call me Alice Paul Dakinikat.
hmmmnn, it would be fun to see everyone take a name that meaningful.
I’m thinking of one right now.
I am so with you! I’ve been hoping for Lysistrata-style action for a while.
The abortion issue is awful but restrictions on reproductive care would include pre and post deliveries. No? Uterine and Ovarian cancers?
So they knew people would never stand for overturning Roe vs. Wade so they got rid of funding for any reproductive care!
Choice…it’s only for the rich now.
Since the blogstalkers apparently cannot refrain from touching themselves over the errant fantasy that the woman in the picture was a pre-pubescent girl, I’ve taken away their bathroom material. I’m never going to get used to such depravity. `
Wow, I’m reading this with some degree of surprise.
It’s very bad that the Stupak amendment passed. But health care is a larger issue than abortions, especially health care for women, e.g., http://www.sj-r.com/health/x880811043/Health-insurance-might-have-saved-womans-life. And the amendment is not banning abortion or reproductive health, it is maintaining the status quo.
Your Lysistrata solution is amusing, but it doesn’t show any degree of awareness of relative benefits. Go ahead, stop fucking the men in your life until they make those phone calls. Unless you happen to be living in the districts of one of the blue dogs, it won’t do a damned thing. The amendment may go away during the reconciliation process; no promises have been made by the senior leadership.
Save your ire for the Democratic primaries in 2010, and make them pay that way.
Uh maybe you better read up. This does not maintain the status quo considering the reach of subsidies and tax credits in the proposed bill. This will most certainly not go away and you are a fool for believing that.
Take your sit down and shut up mentality elsewhere.