Stale dry toast is all we're serving this morning
By now you’ve probably heard that one of the most egregious attacks on women’s health was perpetrated last night. The infamous Stupak amendment passed with the help of a reported 63 Democrats. This amendment extends the exclusions of the Hyde amendment restrictions on women’s reproductive needs to any health plan that receives federal subsidies, credits, or has any other financial connection to federal tax dollars. This will mean virtually every healthcare plan available now, reaching it’s offensive tentacles of deprivation further than ever. Women who currently have this coverage will have it terminated because of the new law.
Once passage of that heinous amendment was achieved, the full bill was assured and the House is celebrating it’s “Historic” accomplishment. Here is the roll call vote tally and President Obama is confident we’ll get more of the same from the Senate. Whatdya expect after that rousing “pep rally?” But, not to worry. We wimmens will be able to get some good old fashioned faith healing prayers once the Senate gets through with their version.
As our illustrious commenter RalphB observed:
They made history. This is probably the first time a legislature has thrown more than half the population of their country under the bus all at once.
And the ever brilliant Wonk the Vote opined:
Women are openly being treated like second-class, subhuman citizens in this healthcare “overhaul” effort.
So, that’s the news. I’m too disgusted to go much further, but here are a few other items to chew on.
Wall Street engages in a little bit of bait and switch to obscure hefty payouts to execs: Windfall Is Seen as Bank Bonuses Are Paid in Stock
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Over at Zero Hedge they’re predicting the next bubble is Gold: The Next Bubble: Gold
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While the theatrics in the House keep us distracted, another 30,000 of our troops may be headed for Afghanistan: Obama nearing decision to send more troops to Afghanistan. More info on the possible deployments HERE.
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And the world continues to send out signs of the apocalypse — why oh why is Big Dawg hanging around with HIM? Why can’t we get rid of “W” and Cheney?? Just go away you two!! Just go away!!
The Final Word
If you’re like me and could use a bit of cheering up, this should bring forth a smile, a chuckle, and maybe even a full-out belly laugh. Meet Snowball the Dancing Parrot. (watching the whole thing is well worth it.)
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But, but . . . “bipartisanship” is the important thing!
I see the Healthcare bill had bipartisan support. One of the 220 votes in favor came from a Republican. Happy days, no other president has ever been able to bridge the partisan divide like this one.
Doncha just love it? Republicans are slimy bastards but you have to give them credit for strategy. They just got the Democrats to stab their largest constituency in the back and it didn’t cost Republicans but one vote. Brilliant!
That Louisiana Republican voted for it BECAUSE the Stupak amendment passed.
Grrrrrrrr
Palin is losing me with all the pandering she has done to extremists.
Does anyone know who we can support third party in 2012 and can we get a list of the coathanger Dems?
If there isn’t a list like that already, here’s a list of all the coathangers in the House to work from …
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll884.xml#
Maybe we should start sending Democrats who voted for the amendment boxes of coat hangers.
djmm
http://www.openleft.com/diary/15915/dems-who-voted-for-the-stupak-amendment-to-restrict-womens-rights
62 men, 2 women
Kaptur, Marcy OH-9
Dahlkemper, Kathleen PA-3
I also want the list of women who voted for this bill knowing they were doing other women a disservice. I’m making a hit list and trying to figure out where our money is going to go.
Wouldn’t it still be better to get rid of the men who voted for it? Women might be more likely to support women’s issues if there wre more of them.
I’m through holding my nose to choose between candidates, male or female, who can’t even do basic things like support women’s health.
The 64 Dems are pretty much the House Blue Dog Coalition. Coming off last week’s strong GOP showing in the election, Nancy traded away women’s rights to the nervous Blue Dogs for the votes she needed to push the HC bill through. Of course, she herself is on record voting against the Stupak amendment. But there’s no mistake. Pelosi sold out women’s reproductive care in order to claim an accomplishment for Obama in his first year – a deeply flawed HC bill which insurers and providers are happy with, which does not control healthcare inflation, which mortgages everyone’s future for another generation, which does not set us on the path towards single payer.
I’m a ‘provider,’ otherwise known as a physician, who is not happy about it one bit. Insurers, who are in a position to do great good, spend lots of time and money making their policies, practices, and formularies confounding and punative. My office probably spends about 40K a year and gallons of precious blood, sweat, and tears trying to help our patients figure the plans out, seeking approval for necessary procedures and consultations, and keeping abreast of what meds can be prescribed from X,Y, or Z plan.
Then they want me to waste more time justifying why a patient needs to be in hospital, like my 15 year old with chronic headaches who had a blockage in one of her brain arteries. Kind of like a stroke, but she didn’t have an IV, so out with her!
My seventeen year old patient was denied payment for a pregnancy termination or prenatal care because she wasn’t eighteen. Until you’re a big girl, honey, we won’t deal with that. Let us know if you get an earache, though. I thought it couldn’t get worse, but it just did.
I am done with the Dems, who are merely proving that corporate interests completely control our country. I am writing to every single senator tomorrow regarding this bill. I will actively work against any Dem who supports it. At least now I know why the Dems seemed so spineless for so many years. It was because they actually had the same agenda as the Repubs.
What you said.
Ditto.
The Repubs are not good to women. The New Dems are not good to women. Hillary would have been solid for women. Why there are feminists who don’t get that I’ll never understand. Is THIS what a feminist looks like, really??
Sarah Palin is and always has been a conservative Republican. That doesn’t mean we had to approve of the gender biased trashing she got last year. It is perfectly acceptable to oppose her on her reprehensible politics without getting personal.
She’s a conservative Republican who increased funding to Head Start, increased funding to low income health care. Despite her difference in opinion appointed a pro choice judge to the bench and vetoed legislation that would have discriminated against gay couples. She basically told oil companies to poop or get off the pot and insisted that people in her state share in the benefit of natural resources attained from their state. She fought her own party’s corruption. In short, she was a Republican I didn’t feel I was going to need to hold my nose to vote for even if I didn’t agree with her on everything. She’s mover farther away from that with her association with some of the more radical elements of her party and she’s losing someone like me who really is a moderate liberal.
That’s how I see things with her, too.
I thought she was more liberal than our current President would be. Sad to say, but seems to have been correct.
djmm
Well for all the pandering she’s been doing — she’s blowing it.
Yes, for me too. She’s going too far.
I can’t say that I’m surprised… she did have a chance, but I knew when she resigned she was going to tack further right instead of going more rogue/independent….when Time asked her about her “perceived whine” comments again and she hedged her answer, I said then that she was leaving too much room open for the Hillary hating (/Glenn Beck loving) among her base… their Hillary-hating is not just about hating Hillary, it’s about hating all of us who stand up for women’s rights and for the advancement of women and women’s causes. Contrary to the caricature of Palin, she knows what she’s doing, and it’s not about bridging divides…the left will never do anything but lambast her, moderates don’t take her serioulsy, she knows her bread and butter is far right.
Not really. The republican party will throw her under the bus once they’re done exploiting her popularity. Too bad she doesn’t recognize this by now. At least she’ll have her book deal.
if Palin’s goals were about her political future, then I’d agree that she would just be thrown under the bus… but I’m not convinced that those are her goals … I think she may just want a RW talkshow gig or something like that. I’m not saying she can’t have a political future, but like you I think the GOP establishment would block her and not let her get very far.
I agree. It’s sad to see her as a pandering politician but that is exactly what I have seen her as doing since she lost the election and then subsequently stepped down.
after all the uproar about NY23 and the outcome. The bastard wasn’t even office 1 hour before he broke 4 campaign promises. A good example of a new democrat.
Every women should make a pledge right now to leave the dem party. Stop all contributions, all volunteer work, Use their talent to help independents and maybe we will have a country again.
After this latest betrayal the democratic party needs to become like the whig party history only.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
We need a third party. Call it The Third Party. I can’t remember who suggested that name but it’s as good as any other.
I don’t think a Women’s Party is viable. We don’t want to threaten to take our dishes and go home. We need a home to go to.
I’m serious. Now is the time.
I’m there. Calling it The Third Party will let our supportive men feel included as well.
Count me in! Donations, time, whatever is needed.
Corrente wants a third party too. They are talking about one because of health care. They are calling it the National Health Care Party.
If now is not the time, I don’t what is. But calling it the health care party is too narrow, I think. Working title: Third Party, works for me.
Third parties have a hard time in the US system as they generally do not win but drain support from the candidate closest to their own positions. So if we do this, what is our strategy to win?
djmm
My rep voted no on the bill(Boucher). I notice Pieriello voted yes though. I think I’m going to force my hubby to call him before he gets an all access pass. Not only that I think I’m going to sit by while he calls the PAC our family beongs to and says his piece. I’ve got batteries.
did he really? crap ~ I sent him so many letters to perriello, and I feel that my vote hinged on this….. now, expect Goode the muslim hating fearmonger to make a comeback. crap, crap, crap.
We need to find a third party candidate soon. Both sides are going to be anti female so we need to find someone who is willing to fight an uphill battle that represents our interests. Preferably someone who also understands populism.
And run that candidate against candidates backed by billions of dollars & media? I’ve seen how that worked in the NYC primaries. And for all intent and purposes, last year too. I ceased to believe there is a democracy in this country. Big Business tells the party who they have to make sure we vote for. Kabuki theater ensues.
The NYC primaries were close from what I understand. We have to be persistent or things won’t ever change.
If everyone opted out of the Democratic Party who is angry with CorporateCare (uh, health reform) and started working for and voting for Green Party candidates, we would be a formidable bloc. The reason Democrats keep screwing us is because we refuse to divorce them. My partner and I donated nearly $3500 to Hillary Clinton and what did we get for that? Nada. I wish now i had given it to the Greens, not because the election outcome would have been different, but because I would be investing in a future i could desire.
This all very depressing – here something to cheer you up! The FT had something abt these guys in its WE edition….London has a super grey autumn day…the kind of day you’d listen to van morrison…..enjoy!
Today should be a good day. I can watch football with absolute assurance that the Raiders will not lose.
My hubby and son played with mentos/dc a few weeks ago. This just blew them away. Thank you for posting it.
dj
http://cbs11tv.com/wireapnewstx/George.W.Bush.2.1298076.html
GW Bush and wife went to Fort Hood on Friday night.
backtrack and meechelle went to Camp David.
I voted against Bush and did not like him as a president. But he showed more class than backtrack ever thought of.
Obots take a good long look at what you did.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Uh perhaps the soldier who did the shooting wouldn’t have been in the shape he was in if it weren ‘t for W and his war mongering ways. Bush is NOT classy. Nor is Obama.
I do not and never did like GW Bush. I voted against him.
But is was the right thing to do to privately go visit this place at this time.
I agree we should have never been in Iraq and Bush and Cheney were wrong about going there.
backtrack is now commander in chief and to go to Camp David to relax and ignore what happened is a real lack of class and respect. he is making a decision on whether or not to send 34000 troops to Afghanistan and does not ever respect the military enough to show up in time of tragedy.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
He couldn’t have bothered visiting the lives he cost when he was President and who could forget his very public joking about the WMD’s being under his desk. He’s a sorry excuse for a human being who finally managed to do something right. I’ll not applaud him for it though because it was a loooooong time coming and far too late for alot of lives that he wasted. HE was in his own way partially responsible for the tragedy since the breaking point was being sent to Iraq or Afghanistan for this man and for the men who clogged this man’s office recounting horror after horror as a result of the war he mitigated. While I try really hard not to judge people, I find it hard to remind myself not to call Bush a sorry excuse for a human being. He didn’t bother to ensure the safety of the men serving this country while in office and I’m sure not going to pretend that a trip to Ft. Hood equals caring for them now.
You, like the rest of us, have no freaking idea why that nutjob killed those people. I’m sick of people trying to excuse him because of horrors he may have heard from others. That makes no difference to the dead or wounded.
This time Bush definitely showed more class and compassion than Obama. Deal with it.
I’m not excusing but I sure as heck don’t think it’s right to judge him particularly when you admit you have no idea what his mental health was or why he did what he did.
Oh come on, being president is like the Bataan Death March. People always bugging you, not letting you eat your waffles in peace; then there is the legislating crap and the being nice to everyone stuff. Camp David is the only place he can go to play hoops and exercise in peace. (Just change ‘play hoops’ to ‘clear brush’ and you realized that Obama is Bush.)
Ehhh, I don’t have an issue with him going to Camp David for down time. Even if you do nothing but give speeches all day, there is a high degree of burnout. The guy’s only human, to the great dismay of his followers. What I *do* object to is the constant press conferences and very special speeches he makes. The dude doesn’t look like he does any actual presidentin’. Doing the real work of the president presumably means less of a public presence. Doesn’t he have cabinet meetings to attend and position papers to read? Where does he find time to do all of that important stuff?
The only way I can imagine Obama is from one of the earliest released photos of him “at work”. He was sitting on a chair with his head back, eyes closed and looking asleep while Rahm was on the phone.
RD, he doesn’t find time for the important stuff. That’s the problem, imho? (in addition to all the other stuff that you caught so perfectly in your last post).
Your priorities are correct. So are laura Bush’s. I am more than sure that this president is not going to show up for any military Thanksgiving or Xmas anywhere near any theater of conflict. And his appearance at Dover was just another photo op. So I hope he stays away from the military anyway—he does enough damage and disrespect from a distance.
Abortion = Botox, not really necesarry, but rather a personal luxury ie you pay yourself!
Change you can believe in!
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap091103.html
i am so angry and upset right now I need something to give me beauty for my soul.
I worked all night and now I need to sleep but I need to calm down first.
I did not fully comprehend just how bad backtrack and his bunch would be for the country.
The democrats became the ultimate betrayers of all I believe in .
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Back street abortionists must be grinning today as they sharpen their knitting needles.
And emergency rooms will be crammed more than ever with the hacked results of their doing.
Does anyone know who is running against Pelosi? Is anyone?
I want her head on a stick for allowing the travesty to make it to the floor.
Yes I’m having a particularly bad Daddy’s little Girl Pelosi Dynasty on a stick moment…
I’m woefully ignorant about Pelosi’s re-election bid and her possible challengers. Someone please let us know when the time is near because I want Pelosi gone.
Unfortunately, Pelosi is beloved by her district and her last challenger was Cindy Sheehan, if that tells you anything. She is not going to lose her seat. The people of SF love her.
Yes, I used to feel that way about Nancy when I lived there. SF is such a small city. You feel like you’re living in Nancy and Diane Feinstein’s town. Two strong and nationally prominent women pols. Which is why I looked forward to their support for Hillary. Diane was kinda there, Nancy obviously was not.
Not all around the Bay Area love her (like me), but unfortunately there’s more than enough.
She’ll lose her seat as soon as the dems lose the majority. About a year from now.
She’ll lose her staus as majority leader. I want her to lose her seat.
Why do Republicans always win even when they lose? This healthcare bill is worth than no bill. GLBT people can also get royally messed up under this bill, especially if it is cobbled together with the Senate finance bill. I am a liberal, not whatever these “progressives” are. And every person who cares about equality in this country just got shoved under the bus.
How is the bill impacting GLBT? I haven’t seen much written on this, I’d like to know.
me too
Palin never had me, but weren’t we wominz supposed to hate her guts because she was anti-choice? remember> Obama’s ace in the hole?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/women-under-the-bus-long-live-healthcare-reform/
Ya’ know, sometimes I wonder if the White House itself didn’t release that Jon Favreau picture as a big Fuck You to those of us out here who saw through Obama. It was their way of telling us they won and they didn’t give a fuck about no wimmins.
Oh, and Anthony Weiner should Man up.
I think that both the pose and the release is quite likely exactly what you say. Probably as planned as the One, himself, scratching his cheek.
that picture as a big FU
Yeah. Really. I’m growing more sure of it by the hour.
Yep-that’s why Favreau wasn’t fired.
Anthony Weiner had a great rejoinder to that low ball comment from the frat boy WH, something like the WH should just man up and call him fat (a pun on the ads dems ran against one of the repub candidates). I thought it was great, kind of beating them at their own stupid game.
That was my very first reaction to hearing the news last night. (And why I think that women who were blackmailed into voting for the Dems bc of choice “got got,” to use my favorite Chicagoism.)
[...] progressives who give in. here’s a better explanation of the law’s implications from Stateofdisbelief at The Confluence This amendment extends the exclusions of the Hyde amendment restrictions on women’s reproductive [...]
morning all. I’m just going to watch Snowball the Parrot all day
Remember Catherine from ASU in the women’s studies department? Our Sunday Sweetie? Whoops! We got that information from her IP address. My bad. Whatever. She was our designated Obama troll one day last year. Here is the push-pull marketing designed message that Axelrove prepared for her in order to get us onboard the Obama Loooooove train:
Ahhh, we “older women”, and by this, O Best Beloved, she meant those of us who are Obama’s age cohorts, WE were supposed to care for the younger women. Well, we tried. We tried to show them who he really was and how hard he was trying to reach out to evangelical women. I wonder how Catherine is feeling today…
Great post SoD. Violet chooses snark on this one. http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/11/07/house-democrats-pass-healthcare-reform-for-men/#comments
Instead of closing the store, maybe women could ask for a deposit before men make a deposit. Call it, oh, I dunno, “insurance”, in case something goes wrong. It would be different than prostitution. It’s just a way to cover everyone’s ass.
Must be paid in full at the local going rate of one first trimester abortion.
Come to think of it, this bill may have just opened up a whole new insurance market just for women. Call it FailSafe insurance.
I think you’re onto something!
Yeah, it could pay for first term abortions, anesthesia and any other drugs and travel expenses for women who live in states where the have to drive umpteen miles.
Excellent idea!
Bwahahaha. Insurance indeed. The guys should pay for it. Before sex, you have to put on your condom and show your card.
Brilliant! And any profits made by FailSafe Ins. Co. could go to women candidates who work for basic health care (which includes reproductive health, natch).
stupak is as stupak does
(in other words… the Pelosi-Reid version of the Democratic party said not a word as Obama, Edwards, and other fauxgressives painted a Hillary Clinton presidency as the status quo. That Stupid Action left unchecked is where the Stupid Amendment came from.)
Kucinich explains why he voted against the health care bill (more at his congressional website):
I “heart” Dennis.
I heart Eric Massa. He voted against the Stupak amendment. The guy is a true liberal through and through. I think I might go and donate to him today as a reward for good behavior.
Agree. Massa, a 24-year Navy vet, made an incredible 5-minute speech on the House floor the other day opposing any continuation of the war in Afghanistan. AND, he represents a district that is slightly more Repub than Dem. Impressive.
I met him in person in Las Vegas during the first YearlyKos when he was running the first time. The guy ooooozes charisma. I wish I could vote for someone like that. But nooooo, I live in a red district and my congressperson is Leonard Lance. BTW, did you know that NJ has not one female member in their congressional delegation? 13 men. Not one woman.
Here’s Massa on why he couldn’t support the health bill:
Yep. A true liberal.
LOVE it! I might have to donate on a monthly basis.
I’m in Texas but made a donation this morning to Dennis. The man has held his ground under tremendous pressure.
I know this is a bit off the wall, but actually I believe they would pay when it is incest. How can they prove that you did not get carried away with your uncle? Will they do a DNA test?
If you are sincerely anti-abortion, then you can not make ANY exceptions. If that fetus is a product of rape or incest, it is God’s will and must be born.
i agree but does the law not say it will pay for abortion in case of risk to the mother, rape and incests. How will you pratically inforce this if people say it is incest?
Dont get me wrong i am pro-choice and find this terrible.
I suppose you will have to get the law involved and press charges if it is incest. How many people want to drag their families into it just to get an abortion?
If you have an insurance plan that doesn’t cover abortion, what’s the difference? Can you imagine the delay that first has to determine if the woman received any federal assistance (subsidy, tax credit, etc) to purchase your insurance and THEN have to prove that she is pregnant because of incest? She’d be at term or have had the baby by that point.
Same could be said for any health exceptions…..if a woman dies then it is God’s will.
Heck why should we end that with mere reproduction though. Let’s outlaw antibiotics. I mean if you get sick and die that too can be interpreted as God’s will.
I decide to be brave and click on a “Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)” entitled “PART 2: Proud to be a Woman, Proud to be a WIFE!”
I read a bit of it. What stuck in my craw was the “being a wife” as if that were an all consuming identity, not just a role among many. So I Googled “proud husband”. As I expected, the gist was not proud to be a husband as if that were an all consuming identity. No the man was proud of his wife!
Off to rake leaves.
I have been checking some European newspapers on-line…nobody seems to be picking up on the issue….
Well, how many Stupid American stories can you write before it stops selling papers?
No, they aren’t. BBC World this morning had a simpering female newsreader saying that Universal Health Care was on the way to becoming reality-and all because of Obama’s courage…
How much do you want to bet the administration has ordered a media blackout on the outrage women are expressing over this?
They control the media. It will be a non-issue. Guarantee it. From what I heard on “lefty” radio Friday, we’re probably in for more of the same in the Senate.
Women must start forming a single voting block, and remember their power as a consumer group.
They must study the electoral strategy of right wing churches. (Just for a start).
COURAGE???!!!!!!!
*$#!*&!
More classic Kucinich–or what makes a true liberal:
Absolutely, Dennis. Billions for illegal wars but no money for the rest of us.
That’s good stuff from Dennis. Much more powerful than anything the Republicans have challenged the administration with because it’s the truth and not just rhetoric. Would be good to see him start calling BO out by name.
This Stupid amendment is unacceptable and cannot stand, period. Write to your Senator’s (and Senate Candidates) today, everyday and make it very clear that our rights as women are never theirs to use as a bargaining chip. And, please add a clear reminder that discriminatory votes against women of any kind, even those that do not evetually become law, will have consequences in the 2010 election.
We are throwing a lot of verbal artillery here at Pelosi. I grant she is the hand that carried out the execution. But let’s make sure we put the blame where it belongs—Obama was on Capitol hill for one reason only—to deliver the marching orders on what the Democratic position had to be. We are caught in a terrible vice—the Dems can take us for granted and there is no place for us to turn in the Republican world and 3rd parties don’t hold much hope either. On top of this, there is the reality that support for abortion rights is falling in general. Insurance companies in all but 11 states have long charged women more than men for health insurance because women go to see doctors more often than men do and they have those parts that produce babies and create health care costs. So there are really no surprises here.
Rd & Co, I could barely sleep. It’s girls like Brook that I worry about — when I think about it, the moms of O’s gen (our gen) — wasn’t any of this on their minds when we could have had Hillary?
“Ahhh, we “older women”, and by this, O Best Beloved, she meant those of us who are Obama’s age cohorts, WE were supposed to care for the younger women. Well, we tried.”
Yeah, we did. We researched all of it, didn’t we?
Coathangers and knitting needles. That’s what women used on themselves once upon a time — isn’t it? Read up. We had that in mind back in 2008…
We grew up knowing that that existed didn’t we in O’s gen? The “older women” in “our generation” made sure to tell us all about that in High School — at least out here in CA.
We did know who to vote for and she wouldn’t have sold women down the river like this. I don’t think. At the rate the Gov is going though — who knows anymore?
That’s why Palin was such a giant shocker to us. Are there any sane Democratic and Republican women in the Senate from O’s gen or older — or men? What will they do about this?
I loved that LAT piece on the faith healing — yeah…
What century do we live in?
Pray.
Mary Baker Eddy will solve it, for all of us.
The very first thing i looked at on that scrubbed website so long ago now? On that list that was being target-marketed to?
Women came in last. You betcha they did.
The Obot gen has kids who are going to come of age?
Good luck to all those young girls. Just gardasil ‘em, you know?
Whatever.
God RD can it get any worse than it is? Can it?
One wonders.
I dunno if it can get worse. I suspect we haven’t hit bottom yet. A lot of people who have been in denial since Obama decided to run for office are starting to get the message. But the economy got a lot worse during the Depression and even then, there was no large scale revolt. Thomas Jefferson wrote that a people will tolerate quite a bit of abuse before they rise up. As long as the Stupak amendment doesn’t affect most people’s wallets, not many people will care. When it’s their daughters that are affected, I’m afraid it might come down on the daughter’s heads more than it used to. It will still get paid from family funds or by the kid’s own money but I’m afraid we’re going to see a lot more families undone by this crap.
As for Brook, well, she’s only 13 and is only now beginning to think that boys aren’t as icky as they were last year. I don’t worry about her too much. I think she is wise. But even if she gets caught, she will never lack for funds.
RD, I’m writing a novel for Brook’s gen in that Nanowrimo deal this month so I’m totally off politics. The boy and girl are 13 and 14. I am (in this first one) ending with holding hands and maybe a first kiss? By the end. I wish i could e you and Brooke this story, I swear.
For feedback from a mom, and a daughter? In these times.
I’ve been thinking I might do a series — take it through Jr. High and HS — seriously. My characters will be going through everything. Just everything. I’m really proud of having written this. I am. In this series I will be writing “our gen” — so it distances it a bit. Also, there are no vampires or shape=shifters involved? it’s actual humans. Seriously.
Any parent or librarian that wants a preview and or wants to give feedback? Come by my place — your email will be safe behind the scenes — I won’t publish it? In 30 days — I will have upwards of 50,000 words.
You’ll love this — My main character is Teenie Alexander. Only, boy is she ever going to be a strong little girl. Umm, hmm. And the boy?
Well, he’s Devlin Underwood — a very cool boy, I might add.
hugs Conf & co.
You can also leave any notes (as parents) about themes you would like to see addressed in teen lit? Believe me, I will write them in — (the therapist me will be)
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RD. I do not know what I would have done if I couldn’t have read the Conf over the last 2 years. Every writer here!
As long as women stand down and continue to take it, it most certainly will get worse.
What about the conscience rules?
What about FOCA?
What about the Fair Pay Act?
UK Telegraph continues to be on roll against Ozero
Bloodless President Barack Obama makes Americans wistful for George W Bush
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6520286/Bloodless-President-Barack-Obama-makes-Americans-wistful-for-George-W-Bush.html
The most hard-hitting graf in that article, re: Obama’s reaction to the Fort Hood massacre:
Completely missing was the eloquence that Mr Obama employs when talking about himself. Absent too was any sense that the President empathised with the families and comrades of those murdered.
Reading some of the reader comments – there are some really nuggets among them. I particulary like:
“Obama supporters are seriously stupid and barely human. What do you expect from people who would vote for a parasite psychopath who says the word “Change” 3.5 million times. ”
haha
No that wasn’t me that wrote that — but those are my sentiments exactly. Usually I take 500 words to say what this person did in one sentence.
OMG John MURTHA???
Actually, this shouldn’t come as a shock to you. Murtha comes from a pretty conservative district and I don’t think I’ve ever heard him stick up for abortion rights. At best he has been on the fence.
And Pelosi was trying to install him as majority leader? OMG. I’m just really PO’d
Murtha wanted to end the war. And he’s hardly the only congressman. There are plenty of pro-choice Democrats. Just not enough to stand up to Stupak.
Murtha is Irish Catholic. I’m not surprised that he voted for Stupak.
I think I’ve got a comment caught in the spam-catcher. Did I use a flagged word?
I released you. Go free, little kamiron!
Well for real “pull your fingernails out with pliers” material, Donna Brazile and pro-lifer Tim Kaine are on George Steponallofus to tout the great things our Congress did last night.
Good luck with that Donna! Your party will never get my vote again. The only time I will vote for a Democrat is if he/she states up front that they have principles that they are not willing to compromise away.
on a better note:
make sure you watch the other 3 parts too. I never saw this before.
My younger brother who is a lawyer and an Obot (said lovingly of course) once said Hillary had a minor career as a lawyer.
She has been chosen as one of the top 100 lawyers nationally–twice. How many times has he been chosen?
ie: chosen by the ABA
Sounds like all the people who sneer about Sarah Palin being an inexperienced bimbo. My stock reply is always, well, how many times have YOU been elected governor? That’s OK, I’ll wait.
(And I’m agreeing with the folks on this thread and others who have been disappointed with her lately, but that’s not really the point of this comment.)
That was a great video — it really shows how that gen was? — so, one wonders what the %^$#@*(^%$ happened last night?
Where were you Dem women — you knew last year — this is why I cannot support the Dems with the exception of Jerry Brown in my state.
Hillary won California, for a reason. In that primary. All these years of respecting that my party cared about women — and voting in every woman on the ticket — but no.
Frankly, I supported all of them — including Pelosi with my vote over the years. Never again. A lot of women are really going to wake up after last night, now.
Could Hillary change her mind for 2012?
Palin is not a Hillary. In three more years we will be desperate for a Hillary. We were in 2008.
Imagine the strength of the women’s vote in this country…
think about it — for your daughter’s sake.
Well, this is the NYT’s spin on Nancy’s spin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/health/policy/08scene.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
House narrowly passes landmark health care bill
Participants also said Obama had referred to this week’s shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, in which 13 people were killed. His remarks put in perspective that the hardships soldiers endure for the country are “what sacrifice really is,” as opposed to “casting a vote that might lose an election for you,” said Rep. Robert Andrews, D-N.J.
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Disappointed Democratic abortion rights supporters grumbled about the turn of events, but pulled back quickly from any thought of opposing the health care bill in protest.
One, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., detailed numerous other benefits for women in the bill, including free medical preventive services and better prescription drug coverage under Medicare. “Women need health care reform,” she concluded in remarks on the House floor.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091108/D9BR59EO0.html
OMG. Thank you for Snowball the Dancing Parrot. That made my day…a welcome relief after the disgusting display of the “Dems.”
That bird has some really snappy moves.
He has a whole repertoire on You Tube–Backstreet Boys, Stevie Nicks etc. He’s been on morning shows and Letterman. Snowball gets down!
So it looks like Obama cut a deal with the lone republican Cao in order to be able to hail the bipartisan nature of the bill:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/08/update-lone-gop-vote-came-after-call-from-president-obama/
GOP House leadership let him vote this way to get er’ done.
I hate BOTH parties. I really and truly do.
Be Green. It’s a beautiful color and you don’t have to hold your nose to vote for them. They won’t win, but I have given up on winning.
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A question I saw on OpenLeft, and haven’t been able to find an answer to. Maybe Erica the physician knows? Does the Stupak Amendment prohibit coverage of ALL D&C procedures, or just elective abortions? In other words, if a woman has to have a D&C for an incomplete miscarriage, is coverage for that prohibited if the bill is eventually signed into law?
Jadzia, the actual language of the amendment says:
So that would seem to indicate that it would only be covered if the woman was experiencing “a life endangering physical condition caseus by or arising from the pregnancy.” If it wasn’t “life endangering” I guess it doesn’t cover it.
Yeah, it sounds like probably the congressional intent is to cut off icky ELECTIVE abortions, but since the fucking insurance companies will be interpreting the language (and how in the world did we get to THIS state of affairs?) they will probably read it NOT to provide coverage (at least not until sepsis sets in).
Lord, I am getting cynical.