The Unemployment rate hit a dizzying 10.2% today. It’s basically the highest rate we’ve had since 1983. The unemployment rate that includes discouraged workers and workers at part time jobs that want full time instead hit 17.5% Needless to say, this is NOT encouraging at any level. The one thing I saw that is possibly hopefully was an uptick in temp jobs. This may signal the need for workers but an unwillingness to commit to them yet. Hard to know if it’s just seasonal, a blip, or a fluke yet. Here’s a link from the NY Times that dissects the details.
It talks about the one thing that comes from over paying men, higher unemployment come recession time. Women still earn 77 cents on the $ for men and are holding down jobs that tend to do better in recessions. Education and health care sectors were one of the few job sectors hiring and women tend to dominate the people caring industries. Institutional racism can also be seen in the numbers. Asian Americans traditionally have the lowest unemployment rates while young black men have the highest. Here’s the recent numbers showing this trend.
The latest job report amplified the reality that the pain has fallen particularly hard on men, who suffered a 10.7 percent unemployment rate in October, as compared to 8.1 percent among women. Among African American men, unemployment reached 17.1 percent in October.
Unemployment reached 9.5 percent among white Americans, 13.1 percent among Hispanics and 27.6 for teenagers.
Other details can be found straight from the BLS site here.
Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (10.7 percent) and whites (9.5 percent) rose in October. The jobless rates for adult women (8.1 percent), teenagers (27.6 percent), blacks (15.7 percent), and Hispanics (13.1 percent) were little changed over the month. The unemployment rate for Asians was 7.5 percent, not seasonally adjusted.
The bad news on duration continues with a huge chunk of people being unemployed for long periods of time. In a healthy economy, the
majority of the unemployed would reside in the 4 -6 week range. Anything noticeable beyond that is really bad news which is why the Administration and Congress are moving to extend unemployment benefits.
The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) was little changed over the month at 5.6 million. In October, 35.6 percent of unemployed persons were jobless for 27 weeks or more…
The crossing of that symbolic 10 percent barrier is likely to weigh on both the psychology of American consumers and the urgency of efforts in Washington to prop up the job market.
President Obama signed a bill Friday morning to extend unemployment insurance benefits longer, reflecting the rise of long-term joblessness. The bill also extends a first-time home-buyer tax credit and expands it so current homeowners are eligible, and the administration and congressional leaders are both weighing other steps they could take to bolster the job market.
Speaking in the Rose Garden, Obama called the unemployment rate jump to above the 10 percent threshold “a sobering number that underscores the economic challenges ahead.”
He also said his economic advisers were considering additional public spending to create jobs, which a growing economy continues to shed. Obama said new “investment” in road and bridge construction, renovations to make buildings more energy efficient, export support for manufacturers, and other ideas are now under consideration.
Any new fiscal stimulus would come on top of the $787 billion mix of spending and tax cuts that Obama pushed through in February. Congressional Republicans, in particular, have called the stimulus package ineffective and will likely cast additional spending as proof they are correct.
There’s some criticism afoot that the defense of the current stimulus as well as the number of jobs its said to have saved don’t add up. There’s been a number of sites criticizing the Administration’s Job Math. Here’s one such article from the Denver Post.
The federal government reported Friday that Colorado created or saved 8,094 jobs through grants, loans and contracts funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
Problem is, the figure is wrong, according to an analysis of recovery.gov data by The Denver Post.
Although a Colorado Springs Head Start program reported it had created or preserved 269 jobs, the real number was three, according to an interview with a program manager. And although the largest private contract in the state funded with stimulus dollars was estimated at $166 million, the number was off by tens of millions, apparently because of a data-entry error, contract information shows.Despite the government’s bid to provide unprecedented details of spending, figures for stimulus awards in Colorado, as with an earlier data release, are inconsistent, inaccurate or incomplete so far.
“You’ve got compliance issues and you have data-quality issues,” said Michael Balsam, an executive with Onvia, a Seattle company tracking stimulus spending.
There is definitely a lack of free fall in the numbers now, but my guess is they’re not going to turn around any time soon. A lot of labor economists I’ve read recently are saying it may take until 2012 to see solid recovery in the jobs market. This is way too late for the midterm elections and my guess is by then, it’ll be way late for a true democratic agenda. The party will undoubtedly lose big. Of course, we know who to thank for that.
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With the unemployment rising. the claims of unspent stimulus money makes no sense to me. Can somone explain to me what we are waiting for Is it a plan? If so, someone should get their act in gear.
I have no idea. I always felt this stimulus plan wasn’t front ended enough, was too weighted towards tax relief and projects that weren’t going to create jobs. Other Keynesians felt that way too but we were ignored.
It was weighted that way so Obama and the Dems can release a pile of cash just prior to midterms. I said that from the beginning – the stimulus was a freaking election slush fund, to be targeted to particular districts when the Dems need it most.
Watch where the money goes, and when. It will be timed/targeted to help Dem election campaigns. They never had any intention of doing it in a sane way to create immediate jobs. Candidates who play ball with the adminiistration will get tons of “stimulus” in their districts right before elections.
wow, that’s brilliant, are you from Chicago?
good to see you!!!
My big fat kitchen remodel is almost done, so I should be around more. Um… once I spend days cleaning up the construction dust that has permeated every inch of my house. Even my underwear drawer has a film of sheetrock dust, I think. But we are fortunate to be able to do it, so I won’t complain.
WMCB IN THE HOUSE! We wondered where you were & missed yo. I’m helpig my sister with a complete kitchen & bath restructure nw & I sympathize.
Typing with one hand cause very large black cat has taken up residence on my lap; excuse typ0s
WMCB: Welcome back. I have really missed you and your insights on “health care reform” or whatever it is. Glad you are doing your personal best for the economy even if it is messing up your underwear!
I agree with this. I think the stimulus package (which I opposed) was designed as nothing else but a “re-elect Obama with gov’t money” fund. It’s the same old trick of making sure all the light bulbs are changes and streets cleaned before city council elections, all accompanied by a nice “brought to you by your neighborhood councilman” signs
Dak, I just heard on the radio that one of our esteemed legislators from Oregon is looking to put a tax on our 401Ks and other retirement funds.
Why don’t they just kill us?
oh, sheesh, that’s awful! i think they want to starve us to death slowly and watch us suffer
It sure as hell seems like they are trying to starve us doesn’t it Dak?
There’s an awful lot of angry people out here and if I were a politician trying to hang on to my position in the Washington “Bordello.” I’d be pretty nervous right about now.
Everything about the “stimulus” is a political calculation. Doling out insignificant dollars to the masses to figuratively pat them on the head and keep them from rising up, while dumping BILLIONS into the mouth of the vampire squid. Holding back some to dribble out at times of political expediency — but not in any effect way.
Stimulus? FDR knew what had to be done. It’s not rocket science. JOBS JOBS JOBS. The CCC was a tremendous program and got many workers back on someone’s payroll.
This president thinks dumping a check for $250.00 in someone’s pocket or adding $13.00 to someone’s paycheck is going to boost the economy.
This is what you get with an inexperienced president who has only his corporatist advisers to lean on for direction.
We’re screwed. Thanks to those who couldn’t put the kool-aid down long enough to think THINK THINK THINK!! aarrrrrgggghghghghghghg
have you read the thing on Larry Summers in Vanity Fare yet?
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/12/summers-200912
What’s up with the Madison Avenue portfolio shot of him and Timmy?
my guess is that some one got to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom
Oh…there’s jobs alright…IN CHINA!
“It talks about the one thing that comes from over paying men, higher unemployment come recession time.”
Given that real incomes in the US have been dropping since about 2000, I question the statement that *anyone* (aside from investment bankers) is being “overpaid”. The observation that women are being egregiously underpaid does not necessarily imply that men are “overpaid”.
that would be in the traditional MRP framework
And, in the real world, how valid (and complete) are the assumptions behind that framework? Isn’t one of those assumptions the homogeneity of the labor pool, and doesn’t the fact that “women…are holding down jobs that tend to do better in recessions” imply, in and of itself, that neither the labor nor the job pool is homogeneous? In an economy where manufacturing is being (deliberately?) destroyed and employers collude to suppress wages, how valid are traditional models of wage determination, anyway?
not very … that’s why they can’t explain discrimination or most frictions, but if you look at the total wage bill and and say it should be the right wage bill, but split some what evenly … say the TOTAL wage bill is somewhat based on MRP, I think it holds in the general sense.
“if you look at the total wage bill and and say it should be the right wage bil”
I guess I have issues with that
When productivity and GDP trend upward (obviously not true now, but true for much of the decade) while wages decline, I’d dispute whether the total wage bill is actually the right one.
I’d say that labor is systematically undervalued, which probably makes me a dangerous radical in the current political climate.
yes, I agree, but if the same split occurs on the right wage bill, the men will still be paid more than their ’share’. So, we’re dancing on with angles on pin tips now.
I still think the language is important – the way to remedy the underpayment of women is not to pay men less but to pay women more. The assertion that men are “overpaid” will not accomplish that. All it will do, in fact, is institutionalize the low wages women receive while bringing men’s wages down to the same level. I don’t think a “race to the bottom” is the kind of wage parity any of us would like.
As for “dancing with angles”, I suppose that’s just a “sine” of the times.
what a tangent, lol
lol
Krugman has a good post up on his blog about “why not a WPA”
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/why-not-a-wpa/
short sweet and to the point
Indeed. The only sensible thing that seems to have happened this week is the passage of extended unemployment benefits. At the very least, the money spent on that should have a higher multiplier effect than the money spent bailing out Larry’s and Timmy’s pals.
I notice the stock market is blithely bubbling away too, completely unaware of fundamentals and only cheap money and churning incentives
Bubbly bubbly bubbly, until….. pop
I decided not to play that game the way things are rigged and they way they do the bubble shuffle. I can think of better places to invest.
In the book “Derailed”, the author talks about arrogance being one of the top five attributes that cause CEO’s (others also) to lose their jobs and to ultimately be unable to reach their lofty goals. Summers has that one down pat.
Elizabeth Warren on Morning Joe this morning:
should read *unemployment* numbers
Gosh, I like this woman
She is really great, isn’t she? She tells it like it is. Amazing, esp. in DC!
Right on!
Elizabeth Warren for President!!!
Yup.
She too good to be left standing in this corporate-run country! So is Rep. Marcy Kaptur from Cleveland (both were telling it like it is in “Capitalism-A Love Story”).
Weep that there are so few who care about the people. That’s the main reason we can’t have a Clinton in the White House again.
Senator Bernie Sanders has recently introduced a bill called “Too Big to Fail, Too Big to Exist”. The legislation calls for Treasury to identify those financial institutions who present too high a risk based on oligopolistic asset control, and calls for those institutions to be broken up within one year after identification. Anyone interested in signing a letter petition from Bernie to Geithner can find that petition at Bernie’s senate website.
Jon Reed agrees with you and he engineered the merger that created CitiGroup. Now he wants it broken up.
Reed Says ‘I’m Sorry’ for Role in Creating Citigroup
Reed was the last decent exec Citibank had. He ran a very tight ship.
I definitely want to get on board with that …
these education jobs must be somewhere besides California… our district just sent out 900 warning letters of imminent layoffs for any teacher hired since 2001. My job is on the block as a computer technician…
hey, Jindal says we’re graduating too many 4 year students here in Louisiana and has announced he wants to get rid of 10,000 FTEs. Can you imagine a governor saying we have too many college graduates? Unfuggingbelievable
If you edumicate them, they won’t be voting for Jindal and his friends. So we have to stop edumicating so many of them.
Jindal may be an alien lizard. That’s too damned stupid to be human.
Lol
so sorry OldCoastie.
It’s amazing to me that in a job loss situation like this, government employees should be losing their means of making a living, while at the same time trillions of tax dollars are being poured into the economy.
—— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Ah, I wish you were here to help us now, Mr. Roosevelt!
Know anybody who can “channel” these guys when we need them? Not that I believe in that voodoo — but sometimes I wish it were true.
the woman who could have been our FDR….. is doing important work as our Secretary of State.
The last Democrat we had in the White House was Bill Clinton.
OK — we know that this is going to turn out badly. We know that the guy in the White house is there for the perks and and for his ego.
SO how do we survive the next three years?
Both parties seem hell bend on destroying the middle class.
People can see that Wall Street is celebrating on our tax dollars — and that they have been bailed out of the mess they created.
A whole lot of people will be retiring — expect that they may not have pensions and their retirement savings are being diverted by the Wall Street gamblers. Lots of people invested in Mutual Funds and IRAs — and a lot of the managers used those funds as their own. I have a feeling we won’t know how bad the looting was until the retirees start to draw their pensions etc.
Just wondering. . . .
Beats me. Wish there was a good way to just drop off the grid. Barter may become the new national currency before this is over. We might be better off for it.
OT but it”s just disturbing…
This is NBC! Obama”s narcissism is becoming obvious to even the Kool Aid brigade:
Obama’s Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting
A bad week for Democrats compounded by an awful moment for Barack Obama.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html
That show, “V,” about the lizard alien is starting to seem more like non-fiction.
“…the president thanked various staffers and offered a “shout-out” to “Dr. Joe Medicine Crow — that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.” ”
Unreal.
Well we know who his speech writer is — sounds like an adolescent’s response.
Must make the 0bots just so warm and fuzzy to listen to his meaningless WORDS — just words.
What’s worse is that Dr. Crow is not a “Congressional Medal of Honor winner”.
He is a Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient, given by Obama himself in Aug/09.
Guess that tidbit wasn’t on his prompter.
Saw that replayed. It was shockingly inappropriate. The emotional response was just wrong in some way. It’s almost like he had no feelings about it and didn’t have time to practice his “appropriate” response in a mirror before speaking.
It’s Obama. We should all be grateful that at least he didn’t crack jokes about the tragedy.
He makes his Nobel Prize look more like a farce with each passing day.
I do not care who his speech writer is. HE is the president. HE is the one who opens his mouth and lets words come out. Even his remarks on this incident had he eliminated the opening nonsense were unemotional and distant. This guy is a lizard; he has no real feelings that connect to others. That is a huge difference between him and both of the Clintons.
Bless Sen Tom Coburn’s ornery heart. On this, I am in his corner. Dr No is threatening to have the entire health care bill read on the Senate floor.
Anything which could help to kill that POS bill is a good thing.
He makes his Nobel Prize look more like a farce with each passing day.
OH! You’re my new favorite blogger fyi
INSTITUTIONAL RACISM: I would like to respectfully challenge that conclusion. I suggest that we look at the numbers. If it’s racism, then why do we find that Asian unemployment is the least? Why do Asians have the lowest unemployment rating? What could explain the AA male unemployment besides institutional racism?
I think we do not give due attention to differences in attitudes toward education, work ethic, personal responsibility—one could claim that AAs go to bad schools in bad neighborhoods. But so do Asians. There are big differences in how some trapped in these circumstances handle it. Many from all races come from broken homes so it is also not easily explained by the absent father. I do not question or deny that racism exists. But I think we too easily explain differentials in employment and pay with that easy answer. Even for women we know that part of that pay differential is because women go in and out of the work force to have or care for children and there is no compensation for that break in employment, even as we can also see and calculate sexism as a contributor. Bill Cosby did have a message that was worth considering.
Don’t touch the sacred cows!
I disagree 100% with this assessment. People continue to forget that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was only one generation away. To believe that things have turned around for women and minorities in that short period of time is to feed into the anti-Affirmative Action rhetoric that keeps both groups at bay in society.
So many myths about Affirmative Action abound. It does not require hiring less qualified women or minorities over more qualified candidates.
I think I’m going to put a post together to dispel many of these myths because Affirmative Action has been an important and integral part of our nation’s attempt to undo INSTITUTIONAL Discrimination — which still exists and the statistics are clear.
Blaming lower women’s wages on things like taking time off for raising children ignores the clear evidence that women who have the same experience, qualifications, and tenure still make less than their male counterparts.
Oy.