Friday Evening Open Thread (Guillotine a Talking Head Night)

molly's btendersDown in the French Quarter, there’s a place called called Molly’s at the Market located at 1107 Decatur.  It’s an Irish style pub owned by the late Jim Monahan. It’s a hang out for media types, lawyer types, and political types as well as quarter folks, brass bands, and wonky professors. It was open during the post Katrina days so I frequented there a lot.  It had a/c and wireless when my house had neither.  I could also grab a hamburger and gumbo next door at Coop’s at a time when any hot meal was a luxury.

The special thing about Molly’s is that on Friday nights, there was always a BIG political discussion going when Jim Monahan was in the house.  So, this is my topic for the evening and we have a lot of Abita on tap so drink up!

Which talking head do you most want sent to the Guillotine?

Today, I nominate Patrick Buchanan (an apt topic for an Irish style pub that serves drinks and politics).  I want him driven off the island with the rest of the snakes and here’s why. He actually called Judge Sotomayor an affirmative action candidate and more.  The old gasbag is a first class racist, sexist, and theocrat!  To the guillotine!! Off with his head!!!!

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145 Responses

  1. I’ve been thrown out of better bars.

  2. I nominate most everyone else from MSNBC incl. Rachel, Keith, and Chris. May they and Pat’s floating heads continue to blather on in the fires of hell where they belong.

    Mmm, now where did I put the marshmallows.

  3. Speaking of drinking…

  4. Do we have to choose just one, d’kat?

    I mean, there are so many good candidates out there on both sides of the… wait, what aisle?

    (BTW, I can still smell the sidewalk outside of Molly’s – pure distilled Essence de la rue Decatur. And I can still see Jim Monahan’s totally Irish face in my mind’s eye.)

    • Hey, we can make a big ol’ long list as far as I’m concerned … vive la republic … after all, bastille day just happened! they certainly didn’t stop after one or two of their chattering class got it

  5. wo lets hold up hear 4 a sec why you guys trashing pat buchanan

    • Because he is talking shit.

      • all hes saying is what wrong with having the best & brightest & most qualified people in there what wrong with that

        • You can’t have the best and brightest and most qualified if it’s not inclusive.

        • also, define ‘best’ brightest’ ‘most qualified’ and measure it objectively

        • Sotomayor is among the best and brightest. What makes you think she is not? Buchanan seems to think only the best and brightest are white males and that anyone other than a white male must be there because someone helped them get there. On the surface it is stupid thinking – because afterall don’t all white males get a helping hand as well at some point? But beyond that his views are racist garbage. Our society thrives on diversity and you cannot have the best and brightest without that diversity.

        • Well first off she was valedictorian of her graduating class in high school and studied very hard to get into college. Once in college she graduated summa cum laude, got a scholarship and went to law school at Yale. It is my understanding that she has been honored with many awards for her academic achievements and served on many boards as a volunteer.

          She may not be my ultra super liberal hero, but she has many accomplishments in her resume and frankly I would like to compare Pat’s academic record against hers since he is talking so big. Put up or shut up, I say.

          Please point out what is the dumb part of Sotomayor? Oh, and Pat thinks she is from Puerto Rico, in fact she was born in New York of Puerto Rican decent. Pat Buchanan seems to be losing it, in more ways than one.

        • boogieman7167,

          Notice that Pat Buchanan only mentions the ‘white’ fire fighters, when in fact in the test two Latinos passed, and only one chose to be included in the law suit. Yet Pat Buchanan doesn’t speak of the case, its merits, but the ‘white’ males, and in Pat’s mind the Latino litigant is non-existent, not of value… See, Pat Buchanan’s point is not about fairness, his motive is too transparent and his concern is only for ‘white’ males, not for equality for all.

        • because we don’t when we limit to one token women. It stands to reason that women being more than half the population that we have been ignoring the best and the brightest since the beginning of this country.

  6. Here’s a cure for what’s getting you down. He’s a mystery wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a panama hat. Leon Redbone of course.

  7. Look, Pat’s an admirer of Spain’s Franco who wishes we’d stood aside and let Hitler have at the Soviets. His comments about Sotomayer (who is far too much a friends of the corporate status quo for me to feel much desire to rush to her defense in the first place) are among his more minor political sins. Among his political virtues are-none whatsoever.

  8. Walter Cronkite has passed away.

  9. Breaking News from CNN:

    Former CBS News anchor Walter Cronkite is dead at age 92, CBS reports.

  10. I am at Cinie’s place listening to the R@cist/S@xist Pat Buchanan who MSN is now claiming is their ‘cRaZy UnCle’ to let him get away with all the cr@pola he has been saying all week.
    Post Racial My @ss
    http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/post-racial-my-ass/

    So, glad to see the video up and will go back up and see the comments. I am flu chooing, and achy.

    • yup, Cinie definitely read it to him …

    • you may not like to hear what he said but hes right & you know it to BO pick her because of votes & that’s pretty much it. BO dosent care about. women & we all found that out 1st hand during the elect

      • BO picked her because she was basically noncontroversial as well as bringing some different demographics. She’s perfectly qualified and has years more experience as prosecutor and judge than any of the others. For Pete’s sake, you don’t want a SCOTUS with constitutional scholars, you want a SCOTUS with lawyers of varying degrees and backgrounds and takes on things as well. Go look at some historical appointments. They used to appoint them based on how many represented the south, north, west, etc. That’s apportionment by demographic too.

      • Just because Obama’s reasons for picking her are political does not mean she is not qualified.

  11. I LOVE Coop’s!! I would DIE for one of their duck quesadillas or Chicken Tchapitoulis!!

    • I had a boyfriend who worked for a publisher in Manhattan that used to reward his staff after they’d sent a book to bed with me going to Coop’s and Fed Ex’ing food to them!

  12. Will you consider doing it again? To CA? ;)

    I have their cookbook and try to make some things out of it, getting pretty good, but we don’t have the great ingredients. Even tried smoking my own tasso ham, haven’t gotten that right yet. My friend and I called them the haters because they weren’t the most pleasant people. But DAMN, those haters can cook!

    We keep dreaming of renting a place in the quarters for a few months. Coop’s and Gene’s poboys every day. Then Commander’s for brunch so I can have my favorite drink, a whiskey smash. Scared little wussies about the heat though, so considering fall.

    I’m so jealous!

    • I’ll send you some of my recipes if you want … but the ingredients are so essential. Something in the soil down here makes things really sweet — like the watermelon and the strawberries and stuff. You can’t get better watermelon ANY place else. AND the creole tomatoes and vidalia onions. I swear it’s something in the soil.

      • That’s so nice, I would LOVE some recipes. I’ve always loved Creole/Cajun cooking and have tried my hand at some dishes. I make a mean Oysters Bienville. But you are absolutely correct, we can’t get the ingredients here. The seafood…ah the seafood makes me swoon. I walked by a fish market on Magazine Street with a sign for crawfish to go and nearly fainted. I keep trying to recreate it from what I can get here.

        And thanks for the drink recipe DandyTiger, I’m drinking one right now!

    • Mmm, that drink sounds lovely. Here’s one recipe for it I found:
      http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink7475.html

  13. I sure hope Sotomayor lives up to expectations. It gets a bit worrisome when Republicans start praising her for being “so mainstream.” Buchanan obviously didn’t get the memo.

    • well, she was a bush appointment originally, I can’t imagine they could’ve hoped for much better, although we could have also

  14. Walter Cronkite has passed away.

  15. sorry, but Barry nominated her because she’s latina and he needs that base if he hopes for a second term, not because she was the most qualified of the possible women (which I think this appointment should have been filled by) available. Pat was speaking some truth there, got off track – Rachel was preaching some identity politics herself –

    • Explain to me why Pat Buchanan only sees the ‘white’ fire fighters and not the Latino ones in the case, if he is speaking so much TRUTH?

      • if you’ve heard him talk about this in other interviews, or on Morning Jo – he mentions Mr Vargas and the stance that he took in this suit. He missed it in this, but I think it’s pretty much because Rachel was trying (and succeeded) in getting his goat. If Pat was a true ‘racist’, he would surely be railing against Clarence Thomas every chance he got wouldn’t he?

        I’m sorry, but I’m tired of identity politics, Barry and Axelskank threw enough of it out in the primary & general, screaming ‘racist’ anytime anyone disagreed with them – and look what we’ve got….. I have had enough. Argue the point, the fact, the ideas – the only way ‘racism’ stops, is when we all start looking at each other on our merit. Not all blacks are desendants of slaves (Barry as an example), not all whites were born with the silver spoon in their mouths (me as an example) and on and on – let’s just stop.

    • She’s a woman and she’s experienced, two things in her favor, but beyond that we know absolutely nothing about her. Is she pro-choice? Does she believe in people’s civil liberties? Does government have the right to torture people? Is anyone in America above the law?

      Who knows? Dems just sing her praises and Republicans just try to complain about the stupidest things.

      • LOL, I don’t know why my comment nested here, WV, but it was supposed to be posted several comments above.

        When Buchanan says we’re discriminating against white males, he’s FOS. When the SC has 9 women on it, we’ll talk about how white men are being left out of the process. The same with congress, when women comprise 83% we’ll talk about how white men are getting left behind.

        • honestly, I’d be happy if all elected officials of this country were women because I think the female brain is superior – but don’t just write Pat off – he (now – not in the 80’s) believes in merit over age, sex, color – he’s evolved, he’s still MEGA conservative, but he would easily vote for a black conservative woman for president today. He’s not a racist, nor a sexist. AND if you told me 30 years ago that one day I’d be defending him I’d probably have called you an idiot.

        • Yttik,

          With women owning 1% of titled land world wide, being 70% of the worlds poor and with the US ranking 67th in women representation in government worldwide (with only 17% of women in congress and the senate), me O gosh golly…. Pat Buchanan should ring the alarm of the great take over.

          • HE HAS AN ISSUE WITH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION – that does not make him a racist! For gods sake, I have a problem with affirmative action – am I a racist? Should my 11 year old niece not get into a school she passes the test for because of something neither she nor her family had anything to do with? Is that being a racist?

          • No, but frequently the tests are set up to do more than access ‘who is best’. Tests are not always a quality measure. There are lots of other standards. Even with tests, some can be written, verbal, etc.

            Would you disqualify a blind person simply because they cannot see the writing on the test if looking at words is not the measure of doing a good job?

            Tests come with biases.

      • Schieffer on Sotomayor’s resume:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTJG7iKpFas

        As Schieffer notes she has been confirmed twice before by the Senate.

        Based on her time volunteering with the Puerto Rican Legal Defense Fund I would say she is solid according to their mission statement and some of the cases they have filed and albeit they seem a bit lively (the wording in some of the briefs :shock: RADICAL) as apposed to her serious manner. Her subdued manner maybe due to her father passing, her responsibilities at home and to her studies from a young age.

        • pat is just pointing out facts

          • apparently you can’t point out facts any longer – thought we learned our lesson in the barry-build-up

          • Sonia Maria Sotomayor rose from the projects
            http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2009265813_sotoprofile27.html

            Four years later, Sonia Maria Sotomayor won the Pyne Prize, the highest honor awarded to a Princeton undergraduate. Three years after that, the one-time stranger in a strange land was editor of the Yale Law Review.

            She was valedictorian of her high school and many of her school makes spoke on her behalf today and it is clear to me, that Pat Buchanan is not seeing the PERSON, but rather what his perceptions /biases are.

            I am sorry that at his age he is not better tempered/contained and I did go over to his bio at wikipedia (I found many things which I haven’t mentioned) and shall I say I have gone gentle on the Ole boy due to his age. If this were not cyber space might I ad I would be a bit more direct, but as noted I did take his age into consideration.

          • She is one of the most qualified nominees for the SC in history. How can anyone argue that she is being given some kind of “advantage?” He might disagree with her liberal orientation, but to claim she is not eminently qualified is just absurd. Personally, I’m tired of the partisanship. Throw up a Dem nominee, and the dogmatic attacks begin from the Right, and vice versa. They spent four stupid days repeating “wise Latina woman” over and over again, out of the billion things she’s said. Can they honestly claim that Scalia’s rulings are not influenced by his Catholicism?

    • As for B.O’s next election, I wonder how many voters who are “Hispanic” or “Latino” are going to vote for him because he picked a New Yorker from Puerto Rico to the Supreme Court, and a woman at that. I don’t think the voting block of P.R. New Yorker women is that big. Maybe picking a man whose ancestors came from Mexico who lives in Texas would have been a better vote getting move.

      • Latinos, don’t make those small distinctions, just watch the morning shows and you will understand…they are Latinos.

        • I’m not sure about that, all the south Americans I know want to be distinct from Mexicans and I’ve never heard a Cubano or Cubana call themselves anything but that. I have a friend from Guatamala that makes sure I know that she’s mostly Spanish, while my friends from Honduras all make sure I know they are from Mayan Warrior blood. But, I’ll let our diverse and wise Latinas speak about that. I’ll defer to those that know the experience.

        • They’re not necessarily small distinctions, and yes, they’re quite firmly made. Mexican-Americans and Puertoriquenos have a rather tense relationship as distinct ethnic groups. Hispanics who emphasize how “Spanish” they are–basically how “white” they are–are not highly regarded by mestiza(o)s, since racial differences also tend to be class and economic differences.

          Real life is a bit different from the morning shows.

  16. i guess you forgot pat was one of the few people that defended hillary during the elect

    • i agree with pat on this issue

      • so do you think that i am sexist? or a racist ??

        • No, I am just asking that you examine his logic, I posted very detailed comments above and even disclosed my familial aspect if you would so that you can see I don’t have an agenda on mine vs yours. I have white blood in me, I embrace that as I do my other heritage.

        • I just assumed you were asking me, if not, my bad. ;-)

        • so do you think that i am sexist? or a racist ??

          I don’t know about all that, I just think you’re…mistaken.

          …and making the mistake of putting down Sotomayor because of how you feel about Obama.

          Pat thinks Obama is a genius now, btw.

    • Look, Pat Buchanan is wrong most of the time, however, even a blind squirrel can find a few nuts. He has a completely inflexible view of the world. He does not see anything on a scale, he’s sees things in a bimodal way. Yes, No. Male. Female. Black, White. Nothing is a continuum and reality and life are continuum of what we are and experience and perceive. That’s very convenient for you when you’re at the side of the continuum that also has the power … as in white straight male. He’s grown up surrounded being the top dog. His religion and his political viewpoints all point to the white man’s burden and the white man’s privilege.

      White men did not build this country alone. They built this country on the back and on the blood of native people whose land they took, with the work of black people, whom the bought like animals and provided no human dignity or individuality, and from women, whom they treated like chattel, and from their own children who they treated like property. Some of that privilege has been diluted over time but it is still present. The culture is bathed in white male privilege and it’s difficult to notice the air you breathe when it benefits you instead of poisons you.

      I’m saying, with kindness and generosity, you’re missing a lot of subtleties.

      • and what I’m saying, is I was not part of it – as a white man, it happened before my time, it happened before my ancestors got to this country, it happened before my nieces and nephews time – and they should not have to pay for the sins of others because of the color of their skin – does that make someone a racist?

        • No, of course not, but some times we don’t see the same things because of our backgrounds and experiences. Our laws have been handed down over 200 years. They evolved from times when everything was racist and sexist and most likely a religion test.

          Every time I get told to say So help me god, or I swear to God, or under God, it violates my rights as a believer of a nontheistic religion. Yet, each time it happens, I have to announce I have an exception to that … that’s an obvious example, but there are more that we may not be aware of because we are not the object of discrimination.

          It may not bother you to say so help me god, but it’s a violation of my religious vows to do so.

          • but at some point the efforts to correct the sins of others in the past need to stop infringing on the future of those in the present. That’s Pat’s point, albeit as befuddled as it was – and the Ricci case is a prime example. The sins of this countries past are grave, but the people that committed the worst of them are no longer here. Nobody here today should have to compete against the sins of the past, they did not commit them.

          • well, i don’t believe in sin, because I don’t believe in the thing that one sins against … but in that metaphorical vein, it’s not blaming folks, it’s about correcting biases and I don’t want to see any new ones created which is a probability too. But overall, the biases in the laws still exist against every one BUT white males, and it takes something OTHER than a white male, in a lot of cases to recognize it.

            That’s why you see Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell with distinctly different views on “affirmative action” than Pat Buchanan.

  17. Latinos are white.

  18. >wish we would have to Hitler was headed east & stalin was just a bad as Hitler was if not worse but that a whole other debate

    Sorry, I don’t debate utter nonsense. There were excellent reasons why we were allied to the USSR and against Nazi Germany, and anyone who believes otherwise has huge gaps in their historical knowledge that need filling in. (But hey, Pat B. would agree with you. Enjoy the company.)

    • I don’t agree with Pat Buchanan and I fully understand what Hitler is and to me Hitler is pure evil, someone that had no humanity and whom committed great crimes against the Jewish people and humanity. To whom were you replying to?

  19. Actually, I would like to force ALL of the MSM Talking Arses watch, while we march the entire legislative to have the weak end of their alimentary tract removed. And then watch as we send them and colleagues, one by one… so the question for me should be… which Talking Arse would I most like to save for last up???

    • lol, good point … and one I should have considered earlier!!!

      • :D still wracking my brain on who I want to save for last up…

      • and with no ‘reply’ option left to me in your response to my comment, I guess that was to be the end of my thread. Understand that I want EVERYBODY – male, female, transgendered, white, black, latino, asian, native american, gay, straight, EVERYBODY to be on the same playing field – but I don’t want my nieces nor nephews (yes two of them are white males, all 18 years of one, and 25 years of another) to be kneecapped because of something they had NOTHING to do with. It’s time to turn the page.

    • David Shuster should be last. He should have to think long and hard about his sexist, misogynistic behavior over the past couple of years.

  20. I would like to nominate Wolf Blitzer. He bugs me more than any other talking head.

  21. We have a man posting here who is “dating himself”.

    He makes me angry.

    Could we get an ignore feature so I can tune him out and return TC to a safe haven for this old feminist?

  22. I saw a post that had the youtube video of John Stossel guy getting smacked by a wrestler after the dumb shite asked if pro wresling was fake.
    It gave me an idea how pro wrestling could attract a whole new audience.
    They could have as the villian characters like Chris Tingle of Lardball, Moran Dowd, or Keith Howlowcanyougoman.
    They could get an old guy and name him James Loosecannon.
    Just a thought.

  23. Add DONNA BRAZILE to the methane pile.

  24. Bill Maher…

  25. Since I can not think of one news entertainer who could touch the shoes of real news men like Walter Cronkite, I think we should throw them all out and start over and demand accountablity and journalistic skills.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

    • He had a higher approval rating than Nixon. CNN is doing a special.

    • Please leave the “journalistic” skills out of it. The media started going to hell when they became jounalists instead of reporters.

      Same with business schools and MBAs. I can’t think of two professions that have done more harm to this country, other than politicians of course.

  26. Protesters Back In The Streets In Iran!

  27. On Friday morning at 9:45 a.m. ET in the House Committee on Education and Labor, the committee members voted 25 to 19 to pass Congressman Dennis Kucinich’s amendment to the healthcare reform bill. This amendment, if it survives the full House, the Senate, the conference, and the President, will not alter the federal legislation except to allow states to create single-payer healthcare systems if they choose to. If this change to the bill makes news, it will pass the Senate, because there is no legitimate argument against it, and the support for it is bipartisan.

    • Well, it is better than nothing and at least it keeps the focus on the fact that the Obama plan really doesn’t have a Public Option. I wasn’t impressed with his press conference to day and I don’t believe that the health insurance industry is going to do all that he said they would and the bill is too long and complicated.

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