I practiced this look in a mirror
Bostonboomer told you what Chris Brown did:
…the shocking fight that landed Rihanna in the hospital ignited when Brown got a suggestive text message from another young woman following a pre-Grammy party Saturday night.
“He got a booty call. He got a text. Rihanna saw it and she got upset. They started to argue. She got out of the car. He wanted her to get back in, so he grabbed her,” the well-placed music industry source said.
“She pulled away. That’s when she’s told people he hit her,” the source said.
Rihanna, 20, had “visible injuries” when cops arrived, and she’s been cooperating with the investigation while freezing out Brown, the source said.
When Rihanna gave him the cold shoulder, Brown’s friends passed along signs of remorse, saying the 19-year-old R&B sensation “feels very bad.”
Brown, meanwhile, is due for another interview with investigators building a case against her boyfriend. He was booked on suspicion of making criminal threats Sunday night and released on $50,000 bail.
According to TMZ’s review of the police report, Rihanna took the keys out of the ignition of the couple’s rented Lamborghini and enraged Brown when she “faked a call” to someone during the fight, saying something like “he’s dropping me off,” and “make sure the cops are there.”
That’s when Brown spat out, “I’m going to kill you,” TMZ reports, citing the police report.
Before
After
On Monday Brown copped a plea:
Brown’s lawyer Mark Geragos announced that a deal had been struck just minutes before a preliminary hearing was set to start in a Los Angeles courtroom. Brown, who could have faced four years in prison for felony charges of assault and making criminal threats, will not serve any jail time.
Instead, he was sentenced to five years probation and 1400 hours of community service, which he may be allowed to serve in his home state of Virginia. If Brown violates his probation, he will be ordered to serve the maximum four years. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Patricia Schnegg also issued a protective stay-away order, under which Brown cannot come within 50 yards of Rihanna unless they are required to be at the same event, in which he case, he cannot come within 10 yards of her. He’s also banned from having any phone or e-mail contact with her.
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As part of the plea deal, Brown was also ordered to attend 52 weeks of domestic violence counseling and surrender any fire arms within 24 hours. Brown must also submit a DNA sample.
After the prosecutor read off the terms of the plea agreement, the judge asked Brown, “How do you plea?” He responded in a strong voice, “Guilty.”
Details of the plea are sketchy, so I don’t know exactly what charge he pled guilty to. Felony sentencing in California is complicated, but unless probation is granted the minimum sentence for any felony conviction is 18 months. A four year sentence indicates he didn’t get off lightly despite receiving probation.
What he got was actually on the high end for a first domestic violence conviction in California. Unless the injuries are severe or life threatening a defendant with no prior record will generally receive probation on a first offense. Before you jump down my throat remember that California prisons are overcrowded and I didn’t write the law.
At least one of the original charges was a “strike” felony (criminal threats) but not all felony assaults are considered strikes. The strike implications only apply if he is subsequently convicted of another felony. Brown will still be considered a convicted felon even though he served no time. California ended deferred entry of judgment programs for domestic violence in the aftermath of the O.J. Simpson murder case.
If Brown violates probation any time in the next five years then the full four year sentence could be imposed. If that happens then he would be paroled after serving two years, and would serve a minimum of 13 months on parole.
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He learned a valuable lesson here. Next time, target someone who’s poor and not famous. You’ll receive the same outpouring of support from the entertainment industry, with the added boost of being able to portray your victim as a golddigger!
I should be happier about this.
Exactly, it will happen.
Sorry to go OT but Michelle Obama was/is in SF today. Unbelievable, even she uses a teleprompter. She spoke at Bret Harte school which is right by Candlestick and is one of the most repressed neighborhoods in this city. The article said she received the “star treatment” there. WTF?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/22/MNN818BJM0.DTL
hey Puma-SF, have you met many Puma’s in RL in SF?
just wondering… I used to live there & I know it is supposed to be the bastion of progressive politics — so, what’s the kool-aid factor over there these days?
Someone commented this week that SF was unbearably saturated with Kool Aid, and she couldn’t wait to leave…
It’s a beautiful place though.
It is a very beautiful place but the Kool Aid saturation is almost unbearable. Yesterday seeing those young “moonies” with their matching t-shirts just about drove me crazy. Did you see all the purple? I’m sure that was the SEIU?
Madrigal, I have only met one Puma in SF but I heard there was another one in Noe Valley.
they probably have to speak in code & meet in undisclosed locations when giving an honest dissenting opinion – lol!
From France:
The Precious can’t be bothered to care about democracy in Iran, but we’ll probably end up declaring war on France over the hajib. It’s great that he’s finally found an issue he cares about.
I may have to move to France.
Yes, this Sarkozy is sounding like a real progressive MAN (real men aren’t afraid of women or Women’s Rights)….hemmm where are Zeee ‘Valises’…
On the one hand, the burqa is an assault on freedom and women’s dignity.
But on the other hand…
Insert teleprompter rationalization here _____.
Yes for Sarkozy, speaking truth.
You know, Myiq — I was actually considering posting that same picture of Rihanna (were she is battered) back on the thread you did a few days ago titled, “Socially Unacceptable”
I wanted to show that there are plenty of examples (in women’s sexual & physical abuse) of images that show where *actions* are a result of a cultural *philosophy* — There is always a continuum in life and attitudes can lead to action…I think it is important for people to make that connection & not disregard precursor attitudes of hate.
In Rihanna’a case: a rule of sexism –> women are property & brute force is always acceptable to control property.
I just remember (on that earlier thread) that we were all debating whether disturbing pictures should be shown. It seemed that one of your main contributors was arguing that showing visual imagery of violence done in the past should not be brought up in the present) as a way to communicate a reality.
Anyway, I remember thinking 2 main things at the time:
1) Yes! photos need to be shown of the violent damage that has been done (for minorities, women, actually anyone ) because people often rationalize without “getting it” in a truly visceral way– photos do this!
2) It is the same argument used by the Obama-Bush III administration, that we should *not* let out photos of Abu ghraib … because the violent imagery won’t help in fighting the injustices of Iraq. B.S! We know that this false-
(For example, it was photo-journalism that showed the horrors of Vietnam, that helped influence American attitudes to withdraw) – Americans need to see the reality that people experienced under the watch and (even encouragement) of our country’s military hierarchy.
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I think the argument in favor of censoring the visual evidence of victim violence is unethical. Out of sight & mind may be easier for people but not necessarily for the wasted lives that are swept under a rug.
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sorry, those statements are so heavy but its how I feel
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The problem, though, as several people pointed out on that thread, is that pictures of women being brutalized have become desensitized to the point where often some people get sexual and other forms of gratification from them. They actually *enjoy* these images. The sight of a hanging man provokes outrage and horror, the sight of a hanging woman could be used to sell something, could be used as the punchline of a joke, could be snuff porn–it’s ambiguous in ways that images of men aren’t.
I get what you are saying and I understand that. I respect that hesitancy based on the fact that sexual violence of women (& feminine gay men & children too) is fetishized… by many (mostly) men.
I’ve seen plenty of “dead” models in magazines enacting some so-called sexy corpse pose …selling shoes or clothing or whatever…that stuff freaks me out big time! Its like advertising for sociopaths — F–cked up!
I know there are wackos out there (believe me, I’ve met some)
(and perhaps some trolls are lurking right now, getting sexually aroused off of the photo of Rihanna up above)
But on the other hand….many men & women also *don’t* just sexualize every violent image they see & I don’t think the majority of people should be shrouded from reality because a few pychos don’t care or get off on it —
Perhaps (to be fair) I should just speak for myself and say that I think (for my empathy & understanding) it is important to see reality in images…even if it is uncomfortable or painful for me –
For example, just this week I’ve seen several short youtube videos of young men & women being brutalized in these current Iranian protests — I don’t enjoy seeing these things (I’ve had to stop watching because I was crying & couldn’t keep watching) it is extremely upsetting and yet I think I need to see what is happening–
I’m sure there are people sexualizing the women they see dead or dying or beaten in the videos and pictures streaming out of Iran– but I also think many people don’t do this & will truly be affected & have empathy for the pain -
I respect what you are saying, though … and I agree that many men sexualize images of violence towards women. I know that there are whole porn segments dedicated to this type of female sexual-brutalization-fixation – ugh!
Sigh, it is complicated but I guess I still think that the visual information should not be censored for all, due to the behavior & attitude of a few wack-jobs. I don’t take that opinion in a cavalier way, though, at all. Seriously, thanks for the perspective.
I agree, I don’t think it should be censored per se, I just don’t think those images always make the point we want them to make because we can’t always control or predict the effect they have on the viewer, unfortunately.
Tis true
Most people were horrified by the video of the young Iranian woman named Neda dying, but I’m sure some people took perverse enjoyment from seeing it.
I specifically used thumbnails of Rihanna to reduce the impact but still convey the visual message. There is nothing “artistic” or sexual about the second photo – anyone who gets thrilled by such a picture already has a few screws loose.
But I felt that people need to see the true face of a domestic violence. victim. If a woman with the wealth, beauty and fame that Rihanna has can be a victim, any woman can.
The true danger of desensitization comes from movies, television. and magazines, where the violence and trauma are fake. Meanwhile the real victims are shamed into hiding until their injuries heal. The visible ones anyway.
Seeing the actual picture makes it harder to deny the problem.
myiq:
“The true danger of desensitization comes from movies, television. and magazines, where the violence and trauma are fake. Meanwhile the real victims are shamed into hiding until their injuries heal.”
good point – I remember listening to an interview on NPR with a famous Forensics Psychologist back in the 1990’s talking about this same point. He had written books about his research & 1st-hand interviews with sociopaths. Basically, he was convinced that media’s (film especially) overlapping of erotic stimulation w/ violence…had a direct result of increased attitudes in men of rape fantasy & overall tolerance of sexual violence directed at women. His specialty was actually in studying serial killers (that had dramatically increase during the 1970’s, 80’s, & 90’s), so he saw the direct results of our culture’s increased marketing of sexualized violence in the last 30-40 years.
He was actually trying to lobby the film industry to put in a bare minimum of a few minutes lag time between showing a sexy scene & violent scene so that a man’s physical arousal time could de-escalate – to prevent overlapping-
I think we need to listen to more forensic psychologists.
I posted this on the last thread, but I thought it was even more relevant here. The woman who evidently isn’t is feminist certainly gives a damn about feminist issues.
(h/t Twitter)
only the menarche obsessed don’t see her as a feminist. The rest of us understand that there are more issues affecting women than reproduction.
*gasp* there are even issues that affect women who no longer have menstrual cycles or no longer have the ability to procreate(which might be why the mean ol’ grown ups are for taking back the debate from the young women who seem to believe that age is a detriment rather than something that should be prized because with it often comes wisdom from experience.
The young Obamabot “feminists” (not) seem to think that any woman who no longer has menstrual cycles should be eliminated or at least denigrated.
BTW, Amanda Marcotte is a feminist in the same sense as Obama is a a feminist.
Judging from the stuff I read of hers I would have to say that she has “issues”
I notices that a key ingredient in the Obama campaign was ageism. Obviously the “out with the old, in with the new” mantra was a way to discredit Hillary.
But is was also a message that for anyone in the range of Gen-Xers (and above) that their voices and life experience were not needed.
For some inexplicable reason, neither this story nor the election of Terry O’Neill as NOW’s new president are receiving much attention in the media or blogosphere.
The main story at Memeorandum is SC’s awol-but-alright governor.
Pat Buchanan’s misspelled “English Only” banner got more attention.
My small (very) town newspaper had an article on NOW’s leadership change. NPR had a story on it before the fact.
That said, when has our media or the blogosphere cared about NOW except to use it for their own purposes?
???? Could it be that Obama’s goons were pushing for the losing candidate?
There’s a very good article at TNA about Chris Brown and Rhianna.
NOW Presidential changes don’t get much media attention but it is more subdued this year because of how the media, blogs and Lyles team emphasized race.
IOW, if Obama lost/if the financial crisis happened after the election and not on Sept 18, it would have been blamed on “racism.”
Where are the banner headlines?
You have to search for the stories – they don’t show up on Memeorandum either.
That is because the stories don’t have a ‘FLY’ being killed at the White House.
NYC tabloids are all over this story.
less publicity for Obama’s new dog whistle to the fundies on choice
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/anti-choicers-cheer-their-dog-whistle-from-obama/
Does Mark Geragos really need to defend every single man who commits violence against women?
Only the ones with money
i hope justice is served.i can’t believe she went back to him.
Only briefly – now he can’t even get near her or he goes to prison.
I’m glad only briefly. But I don’t blame victims of abuse for going back. They’re often really messed up in the head. They need our support, especially if they are so lost as to go back to an abuser.
She is not with him anymore, and has moved on.
It sounds like 5 years probation, and the long periods of community service and domestic violence counseling will interrupt Mr. Brown’s playboy lifestyle, and give him a lot to think about for a while. How strongly do they enforce those requirements?
I had read another paragraph in the original description of their fight that is left out here–about how he actually struck her. I remember, because it made me wince to read it. He savagely beat her face repeatedly.
It seems to me there was a time when adult males did not pout in public for pictures. At home, sure. He looks like a 2 year old in that picture.
I didn’t see any ANGER MANAGEMENT classes for him nor any public speaking against Domestic Violence, since it did get very big coverage and the youth were listening.
Chris Brown pleads guilty to assaulting Rihanna see article on domestic violence danger assessment by California Family Law attorney Mary Ellen Waller at http://www.TheCaliforniaFamilyLawBlog.com
myiq2xu, I commend President Sarkozy on his actions.
He is taking on religious fundamentalists and is promoting true freedom, unlike the conservatives in America who speak against oppression yet support the repression of women via their religious fundamentalist base.
The burqa is the embodiment of oppression. Ban the burqa and burn the burqa!
Second, Chris Brown is a deadbeat. There is no excuse for his behavior.