At WHAT point does HE own it?

The Political Memo in today’s NYT minces few words in Blaming the Guy Who Came Before Doesn’t Work Long and I’d like to just tag right along with that.  Its thesis is clear.  The Obama administration wastes no opportunity to turn the phrase “we inherited a lot of problems”.

As President Obama struggles to turn around the moribund economy and confront multiple international issues, he wastes few opportunities to remind the country that the problems are not of his making.

“The financial crisis this administration inherited is still creating painful challenges for businesses and families alike,” Mr. Obama said this week as he proposed spending limits.

“We inherited a financial crisis unlike any that we’ve seen in our time,” he said last week as he thrust General Motors into bankruptcy.

His advisers and allies follow the same script. “The Obama administration inherited a situation at Guantánamo that was intolerable,” James L. Jones, the national security adviser, said of the military prison in Cuba. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton defended the Obama foreign policy in the same vein. “We inherited a lot of problems,” she said.

Mr. Obama is hardly the first president to point to his predecessor. Ronald Reagan blamed Jimmy Carter for the poor economy he inherited, just as Bill Clinton blamed the first President Bush and the younger Mr. Bush then blamed Mr. Clinton. Former Bush aides like Karl Rove argue that Mr. Obama has done it more extensively and routinely than other presidents have, although the Obama team denies that.

But at a certain point, a new president assumes ownership of the problems and finds himself answering for his own actions. For Mr. Obama, even some advisers say that moment may be coming soon.

I’d really like to extend the question of  when does he own it a bit further to what good does saying you inherited all these problems do when your solution is basically a continuation of those same failed policies?

In the two major areas of concern during the election and primary–the Iraq War and the Financial Crisis–we have not only seen continuation of the same dysfunctional policies, but we’ve also seen appointment of the same dysfunctional policy makers in both cases.  Timothy Geithner (with Obama’s consent and support) has basically been following the same policies of his predecessor Secretary of Wall Street Bailouts Hank Paulson. I know this because oc-08I’ve been following the economic policies quite closely because of obvious reasons. I have had to rely on others for examples in other policy areas.  To say there is a plethora is understatement. I am getting tired of flushing spam from seriously delusional  Obama voters into byte heaven that  mostly reads:  “Hillary would have done the same thing” and “he’s just doing what he has to at the moment, just wait it will change, you’ll see.”

Cannonfire has run a series of threads demonstrating how closely aligned President Obama’s policies have been to his predecessor.  I’ve spent a few days following the links from The Worm turns and turns.   One link is to Paul Craig Roberts at  Global Research and the title absolutely says everything.  It’s called Watching Obama Morph Into Dick Cheney.  This one especially appeals to me because of a post I took a lot of grief for back in the day that used a side-by-side Broke Back Mountain view of the boyz will be boyz.

From the Roberts piece (and yes I know he’s a old Reagan hack which makes this an EVEN more interesting statement to me):

Obama has not been in office four months and already a book could be written about his broken promises.

Obama said he would close the torture prison, Guantanamo, and abolish the kangaroo courts known as military tribunals. But now he says he is going to reform the tribunals and continue the process, but without confessions obtained with torture. Getting behind Obama’s validation of the Bush/Cheney policy, House Democrats pulled the budget funding that was to be used for closing Guantanamo.

The policy of kidnapping people (usually on the basis of disinformation supplied by their enemies) and whisking them off to third world prisons to be interrogated is to be continued. Again, Obama has substituted a “reform” for his promise to abolish an illegal policy. Rendition, Obama says, has also been reformed and will no longer involve torture. How would anyone know? Is Obama going to assign a US government agent to watch over the treatment given to disappeared people by third world thugs? Given the proclivity of American police to brutalize US citizens, nothing can save the victims of rendition from torture.

Obama has defended the Bush/Cheney warrantless wiretapping program run by the National Security Agency and broadened the government’s legal argument that “sovereign immunity” protects government officials from prosecution and civil suits when they violate US law and constitutional protections of citizens. Obama’s Justice Department has taken up the defense of Donald Rumsfeld against a case brought by detainees whose rights Rumsfeld violated.

In a signing statement this month, Obama abandoned his promise to protect whistle-blowers who give information of executive branch illegality to Congress.

Obama is making even more expansive claims of executive power than Bush. As Bruce Fine puts it: “In principle, President Obama is maintaining that victims of constitutional wrongdoing by the U.S. government should be denied a remedy in order to prevent the American people and the world at large from learning of the lawlessness perpetrated in the name of national security and exacting political and legal accountability.”

Obama, in other words, is committed to covering up the Bush regime’s crimes and to ensuring that his own regime can continue to operate in the same illegal and unconstitutional ways.

Obama is fighting the release of the latest batch of horrific torture photos that have come to light. Obama claims that release of the photos would anger insurgents and cause them to kill our troops. That, of course, is nonsense. Those resisting occupation of their land by US troops and NATO mercenaries are already dedicated to killing our troops, and they know that Americans torture whomever they capture. Obama is fighting the release of the photos, because he knows the barbaric image that the photos present of the US military will undermine the public’s support for the wars that enrich the military/security complex, appease the Israel Lobby, and repay the campaign contributions that elect the US government.

As for bringing the troops home from Iraq, this promise, too, has been reformed. To the consternation of his supporters, Obama is leaving 50,000 US soldiers in Iraq. The others are being sent to Afghanistan and to Pakistan, where on Obama’s watch war has broken out big time with already one million refugees from the indiscriminate bombing of civilians.

Meanwhile, war with Iran remains a possibility, and at Washington’s insistence, NATO is conducting war games on former Soviet territory, thus laying the groundwork for future enrichment of the US military/security complex. The steeply rising US unemployment rate will provide the needed troops for Obama’s expanding wars.

Obama can give a great speech without mangling the language. He can smile and make people believe his rhetoric. The world, or much of it, seems to be content with the soft words, which now drape Dick Cheney’s policies in pursuit of executive supremacy and US hegemony.

There has been some transfer of ownership of certain problems as demonstrated in the NY Times article.  Obama may have inherited a financial crisis but has continued handling it in a similar way.  I see only two distinctly new policies.  The stimulus plan is part and parcel of his administration.  Expansion of the War in Afghanistan is another Obama policy.

Mr. Obama got a taste of that in recent days as he and his White House were put on the defensive trying to explain why the unemployment rate had risen to 9.4 percent when his staff had predicted it would peak at 8 percent as long as Congress passed his stimulus plan, which lawmakers dutifully did. Mr. Obama obviously did not create the recession passed to him, but it was his administration that set the expectation that his policy would keep it from deepening as far as it has.

Challenges stacking up overseas may increasingly be seen as Mr. Obama’s soon enough too, say advisers, critics and some outside experts. By sending an extra 21,000 American troops to Afghanistan and replacing the commander there, Mr. Obama has now made that war his, as many analysts in Washington see it. The forceful position toward Israel that Mr. Obama has adopted in recent weeks over settlement expansion may also make the Palestinian conflict more and more his own problem.

However, let’s go back to my question again.  Is ramping up the war in Afghanistan something you would expect from a typical Democrat president or is that something you’d have expected under Bush-Cheney 3?   If you remember my assessment of the stimulus, I joined in the chorus with well-known progressive economists like Paul Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz and Brad de Long in saying it was way too short on job-creating oomph and way too long on Republican-like tax cuts.  Have you seen any truly progressive measures put forth to solve the job problems facing the U.S.?  Did we really need more tax cuts when people and businesses are losing taxable income?

Don’t even get me started on this health care situation where we were promised a President Obama would differ little from a President Hillary Clinton.  Yesterday, in a speech in Wisconsin, we heard the President continue to dismiss single payer.   (Read this from Lambert at Corrente.) Also, we may have freed up some funds abroad for real birth control but here at home we’re still “studying” the idea that a pharmacist whose job it is to just dispense pills can opt out of dispensing pills to people that need them because it might violate his personal superstition.  Let me tell you, when I see some one opt out of selling those little blue pills, I’ll believe we’ve achieved gender equity, even if the policy is wrong, wrong, wrong!!!  (This may be the best we can hope for, because it appears the conscious clause is going no where!)

The worst abomination is the continuation of  the policies that subsidize faith-based initiatives.  These programs continue to exist, thrive, and be places where political operatives from church-based GOTV activities are rewarded for  appallingly dark ages mentality.  So much for the rule of science and reality promised during the campaign!  Witness the last appointment of an anti choice hack to an appointment in the HHS.

President Obama has announced that Alexia Kelley, founder of the antiabortion group Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, will serve as the director of the Health and Human Services Department’s Center for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, arousing the ire of some abortion rights activists.

“Catholics in Alliance believes in the sanctity of all human life—from conception until natural death,” says the group’s website. “Our Catholic faith and the Catholic social tradition affirm that all life is sacred, and that every person has essential worth and dignity. Therefore, we support a consistent culture of life that includes protections for unborn children…”

Kelley’s appointment has revealed the chasm between what US News & World Report’s Dan Gilgoff calls “religious progressives” versus the “religious left.”

So, since very little in the policy realm has changed, I ask you, how can you continue to blame Bush/Cheney? I want to see real change in the economy, true recognition of constitutional rights, and absolute transparency in the business of governance. But how is this possible  if you continue the policies of the very people you blame?

At some point these questions must continue forward to the inevitable AND when will the press and the democratic masses finally hold him to account?

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  1. Picture caption: (cue Patty Duke theme)
    Still, they’re cousins,
    Identical cousins and you’ll find,
    They laugh alike, they walk alike,
    At times they even talk alike —
    You can lose your mind,
    When cousins are two of a kind.

    I like your point about the conscience clause and little blue pills. “I’m sorry, sir, but if you can’t get your johnson up it’s obviously God’s will. I suggest you join Book of the Month.”

  2. I actually think the broad public is going to be a pretty good judge and jury on this transition period. To date, the support has been high — but I suspect it is not very deep. By that I mean that the support may not survive the kinds of tests we have not as yet seen. The signs of change in public support may, IMHO, develop first in the midwest and northeast. Watch support among 18-35 yo people in those regions and you will have a good idea how things may trend six months to a year from now.

    • Well, I’m afraid the overwhelming democratic majorities in the senate and house are being frittered away and we won’t be able to push any actual change through after the midterms.

      • I really doubt that there will be a better time than right now for enacting a liberal agenda.

        • yup, and look what we’re getting … Bush Cheney redux in the white house and democratic leadership that couldn’t find a parking space at the mall of america on christmas.

          No one wastes opportunities like democrats…

        • That’s why the Dem pecking order didn’t want Hillary, she might even have got something done….

          • I’m beginning to believe that … they felt they couldn’t control her agenda.

          • Yes, I think neither Hillary or McCain got the backing of the parties because they were both uncontrollable. Hillary, for certain, would have been calling the shots in her administration. This election makes me think that a truly independent leader is anathema to the “powers that be.” I think it would take a voting landslide for a candidate like Hillary to become president. Not to mention an integrity explosion in the parties, the media, and the elites.

        • It’s all his fault. All of it. He could have reversed everything but he CHOSE not to. It’s all about leadership. He just DOESN’T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING.

          Michelle wanted him to be President. THAT’S IT. That’s all we’re going to get.

        • There’s a great article up on Alternet:

          Stop Being Distracted by Loudmouths Like Limbaugh: The Real Problem Is Lousy Democrats Like Evan Bayh and Ben Nelson

          Here’s the link if you are interested……

          http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/140570/stop_being_distracted_by_loudmouths_like_limbaugh%3A_the_real_problem_is_lousy_democrats_like_evan_bayh_and_ben_nelson/

      • Two things: I agree with Rhonda, but I’d like to add that there is a wave of college graduates that are now seeking jobs that are non-existent. That’s going to contribute heavily to the 18 – 35 yo support eroding. Student Loans will have to be paid back starting in 6 months time.

        And another: Dak, so far having a majority of dems has meant jack diddly. It is unfortunate but they’ve proven that there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between the two parties. I honestly could not care less if they lose the majority next year – it makes no nevermind either way.

    • He is only a little over 50% approval right now. If he goes down more, he’ll be heading into Bush territory.

      • One of our blogstalkers made fun of me for saying he would be below 50% by Christmas.

        I guess pumarubbernectar was right – with a little effort Obama could drop below 50% by the 4th of July.

  3. OT-this is where Hillary is going to be tomorrow!

    On June 13, 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will join Canadian Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon on the Rainbow Bridge connecting Niagara Falls, New York to Ontario, Canada to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Boundary Waters Treaty.

    The Boundary Waters Treaty of 1909 created the independent International Joint Commission (IJC) to prevent and resolve boundary waters disputes between Canada and the United States. The IJC makes decisions on applications for projects such as dams in boundary waters and regulates the operations of many of those projects. The IJC also has a permanent reference under the 1972 Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement to help the two national governments restore and maintain the chemical, physical, and biological integrity of those waters.

  4. One of the things I guess this entire thing implies to me is that Obama thinks that if HE does the same things it’ll work, even if it didn’t work for his predecessor. Then he dismisses all his speechifying as just “heat of the campaign” rhetoric. I’m not sure how to classify that.

    • I’m not sure how to classify that.

      Dumb as a rock? A disinterested announcer paid just to read the words?

    • I think we all know how to classify “heat of the campaign” rhetoric-as FAIRY TALES.

    • “I’m not sure how to classify that.”

      Because you are judging him through your standards for yourself. You’ll get it when you realize he ISN’T bright and he DOESN’T care.

      He got what he wanted with no effort and even less stress.

    • You know that is the definition of insanity – trying the same thing over but expecting different outcomes.

    • Then he dismisses all his speechifying as just “heat of the campaign” rhetoric.

      I warned every Bot I came across that this man would say this very thing. Most of us here in Chicago already knew he was full of shit but many chose to ignore his past flips and his many flops,

      What excuse are the Cheeto eating, Kool-Aid slurping, Knee pad wearing Blogger Bot Boyz giving for this? NONE! Because they know we were right all along!

    • “Then he dismisses all his speechifying as just “heat of the campaign” rhetoric. I’m not sure how to classify that.”

      Lying?

  5. Here go:

    Cousins!

  6. I’d say that Obama now owns the DOMA problem….go to Americablog if you want to know why.

    The x-fans keep saying the fearless leader lied. Does anyone here think Obama made any substantial promises to the gay community? Can you say Donny McClurkin?

    IMHO, more the Obots like Aravosis in the gay community read the inkblot and it was good. Oops, turns out they were wrong.

  7. He applied for the position, I would hope with eyes wide open.(It isn’t like he shouldn’t have known he’d have problems and he’d have 4 years to turn it around) With that in mind ownership commenced the moment he was sworn in. I’m not much into excuse making though.

    • Hi cw-anything new on the job front?

      • Hubby actually got called to take some trains. He had a chance to speak to a supervisor, who is grateful he isn’t just expecting to sit home and collect railroad unemployment. He should be back on either the Radford extra board or the extra extra board this weekend.

    • Right. Everybody knew there was a major crisis, he knew he wasn’t even remotely capable of handling it, but he moved heaven and Earth to get the job. He owned it on Day One.

      • but his SPEECHES create CHANGE!!!

        • Look upon his iconic photographs and forget your troubles! The jaunty way he swings his suit coat reminds me of JFK!

      • I agree. When you fight to have something, especially when you know in your heart that you are inexperienced and therefore likely to be incompetent–you own it from the git go.

    • I don’t think he realized how hard it would be. I think he figured he would delegate everything. That is why he has so many Czars. He never thought he would have to actaully work and how could he since he has never been in a position where he was expected to work hard.

      • Yep, someone running for POTUS didn’t think they would have to work hard…whatever. Its one thing to disagree with Obama and his policies, but this comment is just silly. The czars help craft policy and report to him; they’re not setting the agenda–the White House Dom. Policy Council does that. While you’re typing away in some basement criticizing the guy, he’s in the White House. I guess he’s the lazy bum, huh?

        News flash–the economy has been in the toilet for years, and I hardly doubt four or five months of any economic policy change is going to shift numbers so fast. In our nation of instant gratification, its expected, but if you know anything about economics, things just don’t work that way. We’ve had flat GDP growth for some time now…but I guess that’s Obama’s fault too?

        • What is Obama’s fault is his inability to change policy in a way that will correct the problem. Also, appointment of Czars is a way to get around congressional oversight and approval. We have Larry Summers in there with his obvious powerful connections to Wall Street operating in THEIR interests.

          I do know something about economics and while a President doesn’t cause a lot in the economy to go right or wrong, the infrastructure and ground rules they establish significantly impact the playing field of the economy.

          His continuation of no systemic change in the financial markets will ensure the continuation of the financial crisis just as his continuation of military tribunals will further erode constitutional rights.

          This is not a man interesting in taking on the power structure, this is a man wanting to become the power structure and benefit from it. The stimulus bill and its emphasis on tax cuts over job creation is just another example. This fiscal policy was drafted by Nancy Pelosi, but the desire to be liked by the Republicans and push for cooperation by POTUS put it in its current form, which really isn’t going to do much other than extend the trough part of the business cycle.

          Also, to me, POTUS appears to spend more time on the road than in the White House. I thought Dubya was bad with the travel time, this guy doesn’t appear to like the Oval Office at all. Right now, I’m trying to influence the one reasonable senator I have to look more closely at Health Care reform and my house has no basement. My computer is on my desk where I actually work. My desk isn’t just for photo ops.

        • Obama knew (or should have known) what he was getting into.

          Boo-fricking-hoo

  8. And was the Lehman collapse aided and abetted by Obama’s need for a final push as election day came near?

    Why was he calling for champagne as soon as he heard about it?

    • Remember Obama was talking to Paulson on the phone several times a day, and when they had the meeting in Bush’s office, Obama and Paulson sat together. They were both in on pushing Merrill out to help Goldman Sachs.

  9. George W. Obama

  10. Dakini, I half wish you hadn’t linked to the diary at Corrente about Obama’s Q&A session in Green Bay, WI. Obama said he wants to continue the practice of having health insurance provided by and paid for by business. There are many, many reasons why that is a failed approach, but it will also continue to make the few remaining American manufacturers the least competitive in the world. I just get angrier and angrier at the stupidity of those voters who thought Obama was something different.

    • yup, very well said … I had hoped i was being overly pessimistic and that perhaps I would have reason to say, well that wasn’t so bad, but even I am appalled at how optimistic my pessimism turned out to be!

  11. “In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;

    And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;

    And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;

    And then… they came for me… And by that time there was no one left to speak up.”

    There will be many more betrayals of various Obamatron voting blocks…eventually you may see some wising up, but their is no guarantee.

    The sexism, misogyny and blatantly false charges of racism during the campaign proved to me that there are nothing sacred and there are no uncrossable lines.

  12. Sorry guys, I was following a thread on PUMAPAC about The DoJ defense of DOMA report, and Obama’s betrayal of LGBT’s, oops. I posted my comment in the wrong thread.

  13. Well, he owns these:

    It seems the citizens of Palau were not consulted by their leader when he agreed to accept the Uighurs there, and they’re in an uproar about these Guantanamo guys coming to their island.

    Not only that, but the parliament of Bermuda has scheduled a no-confidence vote for the premier, given that THEY were not consulted about Uighurs that were sent to Bermuda, and are concerned their presence will affect tourism.

    Do ya think if Obama sends em DVD’s of old movies or DVD’s of his speeches, they’ll all settle down?

    LOL

  14. He bought it; he owns it.

  15. I think it will take a year before Obama can truly own any of the mess. He really did inherit a big mess. His problem is, he underestimated how huge the mess was. His shock and slow action have just made things worse.
    Regarding Iraq and Afghanistan – if it is worse in 2010 than it is now, I think he will then own what happens there.
    He totally owns Pakistan.
    On the economy I think it is now 60-30 to Obama. I think things will be back to normal next year.

    • He owned it from the moment he took office. That’s what being POTUS is. He can either do something different than W, or he’ll do the same thing as W.

      Course, he’ll just change the name a bit and say “CHANGE!”

      Fraud.

    • His problem is, he underestimated how huge the mess was.

      Lord, I would say Barry doesn’t think enough about the mess to even form an opinion . He has people for that and his job is to read out loud whatever they tell him to. IMO

  16. I wonder what Bushbama’s 2012 campaign slogan will be and how many kool-aid abusers will jump on the hope/change bandwagon again. The only excuse they’ll have left is that they aren’t Republicans. Then they’ll use the pro-choice card again to get the women folk on board. Sad to see the cycle continue every four years.

    • The cycle needs to be broken. These disenfranchised groups need to demand more from their chosen preznit and the Dimocratic Party:

      http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/06/12/women-gays-jews-wake-up/

    • That’s what the Democrats always run on any more: At least we’re not the Republicans. Unfortunately, they’ve proven that they have their own brand of loons.

      The best the can hope for is that the Republicans continue to go towards Mike Huckabee which as a mother of two eggs with legs and uteri, scares the living daylights outta me!

    • “I wonder what Bushbama’s 2012 campaign slogan will be?”

      A kinder, gentler hypocrisy?

  17. he wastes few opportunities to remind the country that the problems are not of his making.

    it was this way when he decided to run. It was this way when he took fraudulent contributions. It was this way when he said Hillary was likable enough. It was this way before his peeps started calling everyone a r@c!st.

    If he didn’t want the fricken’ job, he shouldn’t have tried so hard to get it. We tried to tell him he was getting in over his head. We knew one thing that the rest of the left is starting to get: Obama doesn’t listen.

    • I know, you’d think Obama is some random innocent bystander who became President due to a computer mixup the way he passes the buck. You said you were ready.

    • And WTF was he doing in the Senate while Bush was making these problems?

      • Running for president. ;)

      • He was spreading sunshine and passing out Hopium blunts to the sheeple!

      • padding his resume, perfecting his “I’m the bestest President Evah!” face in the mirror late at night, & making the bi-partisan booty-smooching rounds during the day. LOL

      • I can tell you exactly what he was doing in the Ill. Senate anyway.

        He was a Tuesday to Thursday man.
        He played poker with the big boyz at night.
        He networked at the golfclub during the day.
        He voted present on almost every issue.

        While his style of leadership and management is still largely undefined, his eight years in the state Senate marked his political beginnings. He made connections with powerful Chicago Democrats but also reformers, and sponsored legislation limiting lobbying.

        But that era is often discussed more in terms of his evening poker games with the politically connected, and the emergence of golf as networking method. He had a lot of people, especially in the black community, that he needed to meet and court.

        “Everyone always knew he was in the Senate to further his political ambitions. It was just a stepping stone,” said Rauschenberger, the former Republican Senate leader. “He was never a leader. He didn’t seem to be there to make a difference.”

        The Illinois Senate was in session Tuesday through Thursday. Some senators worked at the capitol Monday through Friday to pass their bills and govern, Rauschenberger said. Others took off to travel, campaign, make speeches.

        “He was what we call a ‘Tuesday-through- Thursday’ guy,” Rauschenberger said.

        http://tinyurl.com/noqgg9

        • And just as an aside, from the same article in the Denver Post, -what was he doing in his teens?

          This is a man, after all, who has managed a campaign staff, not millions of people on a federal payroll. This was a very human teenager who used cocaine and wiled away two years of college partying. This is a politician who just under half the nation didn’t trust with their vote.

        • My 1st response is Ugh!!! (though I should not be surprised)

          2nd response is *thank you* to Laurie for the Chicago history -

  18. I wonder what Bushbama’s 2012 campaign slogan will be

    “McCain would have been worse!” for sure.

    “I have a penis” if Palin wins the GOP nomination.

    • Obot if Palin were to run in 2012: Uh, Sarah Palin, is, um, STOOPID. She’s just a tease and a c*nt. MILF.

      Of course, they would never address valid reasons to oppose Palin. Olbermann, Tingly Leg Matthews, and Letterman would only focus on her va-jay-jay and the fact that her daughter is an “unwed mother”.

      • “At least he’s not McCain/Romney”

        • He’s better than Tancredo (who conveniently doesn’t seem to provoke a tiny fraction of the outrage produced by “Lieberman in a dress” or “Bush in a dress).

          • There’s no reaction to Hannity, Beck, Tancredo, Gingrich, McCain, Romney, and Bush like there is to Sarah Palin because she’s female and hot i e they can’t have her.

            The MSM and left are so juvenile.

          • We had a tr oll the other day who claimed that Palin was the most vile person in politics and had committed the worst acts of character assassination ever seen in American politics. They get all worked up and have to reenact The Crucible just because she exists and doesn’t know they do.

  19. Ventured to the cheeto to see the reaction to the DOMA brief….

    Got a new nickname for Barack there:
    All-talk Barack.

    And a nice list of all of Obama’s great accomplishments. My favorite: Closing Guantanamo….except that the Congressional Dems won’t fund it….LOL as if the leader of the party has his hands tied behind his back.

    Anyway, for a good laugh, read the comments in the DOMA threads. People are figuring the dear leader out.

    • I just read a very short column by Andrew Sullivan entitled “What was Obama Thinking?” — the natural follow-up to last year’s Obot explanation of “What Obama Really Means.”

      It was freaking pathetic. Sullivan quotes a reader who figures that either Obama is taking a nutwing stance on gay marriage in order to have political capital to spend when he ends DADT in the military, OR it was a clerical error that put forth the brief as written by Bush’s people. Sullivan suspects that it is an attempt to prevent a forced decision from the federal judiciary on DOMA, or lack of communication. HUH?

      I sure don’t see any difference between the Obot trying desparately to reconcile his misplaced faith in the New Messiah with reality, and the fundamentalist trying to argue that dinosaur bones were placed underground by the creator to confuse the rest of us.

      If you are interested in reading the Sullivan commentary, it is at:
      http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/what-was-obama-thinking.html

    • I’ve been venturing back to Hullabaloo (yes I swore I’d never go again) lately.

      They are NONE to happy with The One.

      And NONE too happy with Schwarzenegger and the new taxes in California.

      Several of them wanted Grey Davis to please come back.

    • I’m not much of a Bill Maher fan (and I thought he was a total wanker during the primaries) but the following article shows that he is willing to put down his Hopium Bong for the 1st time in months.

      Hey kids, its time for the “All Obama All The Time” show!

      Sit back and let your eyes glaze over at each new thrilling twist in the plot line: a new dog? A new dress for Michelle? A favorite new hamburger joint (no arugala or Dijon included)… relax and enjoy each new fascinating mundane detail. — guaranteed to put most active citizens into blissful hypnosis.

      Maher says, “Enough’s enough already. DO something!”

      http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-maher12-2009jun12,0,7966784.story

    • Ain’t it a damn shame they are a day late and a dollar short……

    • Yeah, but now we’re stuck with him and all that talk and backtracking. They need to go to confession before I listen to ANY of them again.

  20. Akkk…Spammy got me

  21. Help! Spammy keeos grabbing my ankles!

    • I’m free! LOL

      • (sorry, I was out–friday night and all–but I think Myiq2xu rescued you for the grips of the fickle finger of Spammy). Some times he just seems to randomly grab a regular with no apparent reason!

  22. My sense of Obama is that he has *always* known what was coming down the pike (in terms of economy & increasing the war & increasing surveillance). Although he sometimes makes a point to show expressions of surprise and stress and concern for the camera, I think its an act.

    (edit: I *know* its an act). He doesn’t care about being ethical & he is not really worried about the direction of our country. The guy is partying it up in the DC crib (cocktail parties galore), while the rest of the country continues in a downhill spiral.

    He will continue to spin his way out of ownership of his actions (something he has always done) unless other people put his record on hold.

    The guy is no dummy (and I think it is dangerous for liberals to assume he is naive… Obama has always been an operative – and an astute actor like Reagan).

    Now, to his (and his producers) utmost delight, the “Pertendident Celebritician” (a Cinnie gem) is staring in a 4-year movie, coming to a world-wide theatre near you (fake butter & day-old popcorn included with your ticket purchase!).

    Our Actor-in-chief knows he has the machine behind him & they will NOT let him fail…not their best PR Rep in the last few decades Evah!

    What ownership? If something fails under his administration, there will always be minions and stage-hands to take the fall.

    He has long ago worked out a successful strategy to grift off of other people’s hard work & connections, to maximize personal aggrandizement & influence.

    His ownership of issues depends on what issue is *popular* at the time & he also has no problem co-opting other people’s ideas if it will make him look good.

    He likewise will never claim ownership of a policy or situation that is unpopular. The guy is a regular wizard at deflecting responsibility away from himself, if the public perception is negative:

    It’s Georges fault! (but I won’t investigate him)
    It’s Cheney’s fault! (but I will increase his torture regime)
    It’s the banks fault! (but I will give the citizen’s purse to them)
    It’s the citizens fault! (for spending outside their means)

    And this latter finger pointing comes from from a millionaire who hires food tasters in France & spends tax payer money for NY Broadway shows.

    At what point will he take ownership?

    At the point when citizens *force* his hand.

    (of course, then he will say it was his idea all along)

    Thanks for the thread, Dakinikat —
    (Geesh! I’m long-winded)

    • Lol, Madrigal – and Kudos, Applause, Brava!

      You covered him perfectly and I’m totally with you!

      (Except for one thing; I don’t think he is a good actor. And actually I don’t think you do either, ’cause you obviously see through him ;) .)

      • Thanks Pips!

        Is the Bamster a bad actor? Welp… dunno — I just take my red pills on a regular basis (as prescribed). It is the only antidote for recognizing the emperor truly has no clothes (believe me, though… I don’t like x-ray vision!) Ewww –

        LOL!

    • That list is quite succinct! If you’ve got a mess to clean up, you gotta change brooms! Just traveling all over speechifying while maintaining the very same policies that put us in this mess is not going to get different results! Folks need to start speaking up NOW before it’s too late and we lose the democratic majority!

      • Change the broom is right!

        We need an industrial vacuum & heavy-duty soap to clean up the mess that Financial Republicrats have left in the citizen’s home!

        Obama is a Sham-wow! commercial- :-P

  23. Thank you for Bobby Byrd. Sayin it and Doin it… takes me back to high school. Those were the days!!! As for BHO I don’t have a comment. I’m just too weary of the whole thing to the point of being bereft of words.

    • Hi Joanie!! Good to read you!!! Bobby is one of my favorites on the jukebox down here !! I always thought he never really got his due. He was so overshadowed by James Brown.

  24. The Democrats won majority stayus of Congress in 2006. Whats their excuse?

    • They have none. They are as captured by special interest lobbyists as the Republicans. The only thing that is really different is the rhetoric. They are supposedly supporting of civil rights for all, but only in certain states are we seeing that to be the case. Look at how Gay Rights just suddenly became a back burner issue? All for it during the election cycle, back burner after they GOTV. Women’s rights are the same way.

  25. (Late to the thread, again.)

    I keep thinking about how Obama had to quit his Senate job earlier than any previous President Elect, and had to hire the largest transition team at the greatest expense, in order to prepare for Day One and the financial crisis. He even met with President Bush. He was in the loop. And then he cries – how could he be expected to know what to do? boo hoo.

    It is really immature to keep harping on blaming someone. You just have to get in there and deal with it. That’s life in the fast lane. Don’t ask for the job, kill to get it and then cry that you need time, it’s hard. Most people with a big job on their hands would get down to business, not party and run all over the country. I have not seen him really focus on anything yet. He is one of those people who just want the title, not the responsibility or the challenge or the work.

    • Well, that appears to be a case of history repeating itself. That was is mo in his previous jobs, why would any one expect anything different? All his momentum and effort goes into getting the job, then he just because a slacker and rides the prestige and power. How much more could we know about this if his legislative records hadn’t conveniently disappeared, for example?

  26. I just found a good article on Axelrod’s strategy by Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker.

    He gives the background on the campaign’s choice of Change as a strategy:

    for instance, during the summer and fall of 2007, when Obama’s poll numbers in Iowa were stagnant. “We had people in Iowa in the summer of ’07 saying, ‘All we’re getting asked about is experience! We’ve got to have an answer on experience!’ ” Benenson recalled.

    Polling in the summer and fall of 2007 led the campaign to a choice between trying to win the debate that the Clinton campaign was eager to have—about Obama’s perceived lack of experience—and sharpening the debate about change in a way that could undermine Clinton. Once again, change trumped experience. “The much shorter path for us,” Benenson said, going into the jargon of political consulting, “was to eliminate Senator Clinton from the decision set as a change agent. We defined change in a way that Barack Obama had to be the answer.” Larry Grisolano, whose job was to oversee all spending on TV ads and mail, the largest part of the campaign’s budget, posed the question this way: “How do we talk about change in a way that makes Hillary Clinton pay a price for her experience?”

    On October 10, 2007, less than three months before the Iowa caucuses, Axelrod, Grisolano, Benenson, and other members of Obama’s “message team” distilled several weeks’ worth of polling and internal debate into a twelve-page memo that laid out Obama’s strategy for the weeks leading up to the Iowa caucuses. “The fundamental idea behind this race from the start has been that this is a ‘change’ election, and that has proven out,” the memo said. “Everything in our most recent research has confirmed this premise, as has the fact that other campaigns have adapted to try and catch—or survive—the wave.” The plan adopted by Obama was to raise character issues about Clinton that would disqualify her from employing Obama’s message. “We cannot let Clinton especially blur the lines on who is the genuine agent of change in this election,” the memo said. It argued that, in voters’ minds, Clinton “embodies trench warfare vs. Republicans, and is consumed with beating them rather than unifying the country,” and that “she prides herself on working the system, not changing it.” Obama raised all these issues with some delicacy; he framed the choice as “calculation” versus “conviction,” and was careful not to use Clinton’s name. But the campaign wanted to be sure that reporters got the message. “We also can’t drive the contrasts so subtly or obtusely that the press doesn’t write about them and the voters don’t understand that we’re talking about HRC,” the memo advised Obama.

    Of course when that failed, they just straight out fed journalists the nuclear option that the Clintons were r@cist.

    Remember Ryan Lizza-the reporter who was ecluded from BO’s press plane to Europe out of reprisal?

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