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BACK IN THE DAY….

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When nuns wore habits and no child went home complaining to the folks that “Sister does not like me” as an excuse for misbehavior, I was schooled for 12 years by a group of women who were making every attempt to “save my soul”. Their methods varied by degree but their collective thinking did not.

We lived by the sound of the “clicker”.  A clicker was akin to a small castanet that Sister held in her hand as we stood, turned, and kneeled in unison to the sound. That clicking defined our day within the classroom. It began and ended our day, announced lunch, prayer, and study. We were ruled by the clicker and Sister’s steady fingers on getting the sound just right. We hated it!

In grammar school the day began with a reading from “The Book of the Saints” which usually entailed a story of a some poor soul who had been burnt, flayed, beaten, stoned, drowned, stabbed, eviscerated, plucked, blinded, boiled, and whipped to death thus granting him/her a special place in Heaven. Underneath the narrative was the threat that their fate would be ours if we were as much as caught looking out the window during the reading! Our young imaginations conjured up sights that ensured nightmares among the feint hearted. And thus we began our day.

This morning ritual was abandoned in high school but the saving of our souls did not abate. I had one nun in my sophomore year who loved stories about Hollywood stars and since she came from New Jersey, she was an “authority” on Frank Sinatra. Her musings covered his many marriages and how much he had strayed from the fold and some of us caught on quickly that we could forestall her Spanish class instruction by getting her going on the topic. She never failed! We spent many happy and thoroughly unproductive hours listening to the faults of Old Blue Eyes and I took away from that class the only words that still stick: muchacha and muchacho! We hadn’t mastered Spanish but we were experts on Frank Sinatra and his many transgressions. It may not have adequately prepared us for “real life” but if I ever had the chance to visit New York I sure knew where to find him at Jilly’s!

The nun who taught shorthand was another case in point. She asked us to go to the board and write a “joke” in shorthand to test our skills. I could only come up with one joke. “What did the dead man say as he floated down the river? I ain’t got no body.” Something in that passage struck her wrong and she made me erase it immediately. How that stupid joke was expected to taint the others is beyond me to this day. What the hidden meaning was to that stupid, innocuous joke escapes me. Which is why I rely on the obvious to this day. Apparently, without knowing it, my “soul” was already in jeopardy!

Another nun “scalped” me. We had a study period wherein she taught a boy from another class in Latin verbs and we were expected to work on an assignment during this class period. While she was tutoring him, I became bored with the drone and looked around for something to “amuse” my fellow classmates. I sported a very long pony tail in those days and I decided that it would be a “riot” to tie it with the string from the window shade thus enabling me to make my pony tail rise and fall with a flick of my wrist. This was done for the amusement of those students sitting behind me. It was “hilarious” for about 5 minutes until Sister caught on. What I remember was her barreling down the aisle with a pair of foot long scissors and heading straight for me. She grabbed my pony tail and snipped! What remained was nothing more than a pound of hair resembling a small animal! I was shocked, speechless, and scared. She handed me the deitrus and I was instructed to take it home and not return until I had a note from my mother agreeing with the “punishment”. It was at this point that I began to commiserate with those hapless “saints”. Misery was at hand. I not only had to face my mother but my pony tail was no more! But I took from it the lesson that one never fools around when Sister is in possession of a pair of scissors, no matter how bored or restless. I was being prepared for the real world, like it or not.

Another nun took up duty at the water fountain. On really, really hot days, and no air conditioning in the building, we got thirsty awfully fast. During change of class, this nun took it upon herself to plant her ample figure in front of the water fountain so that none of us could get a much needed drink. The same admonition, “offer it up to the poor souls in Purgatory” could be heard up and down the hallways as we marched, tongues swollen, onto the next class. I didn’t much care for those poor souls since they had their chance and obviously blew it so the quenching of my own thirst stood out. But Sister was resolute, no water for us! We created new names for Sister, none of them “nice” as I recall.

I can’t watch Bart Simpson and not remember the time another nun made me write 500 times on the blackboard “I will not throw snowballs at Sister” because I had inadvertently hit her on the back of the head while aiming at a boy who was “catcalling” a girl walking in front of me to lunch one snowy day. Or the nun who had us empty our purses each day looking for contraband like cigarettes, chewing gum, or pink lipstick until we finally wised up and kept those items in our locker. We never knew what she did with all that stuff she collected but Friday nights must have been a blast in the convent!

Things have changed considerably over the years. Lay teachers now make up the majority of staff in the few Catholic schools that remain. The education I received was tremendous insofar as they opened up to us the discipline needed to succeed and the fascination of learning even against our own will. These women of their time, flaws and all, were dedicated to teaching and offered themselves to a lifetime of students like me who on occasion had to be directed back into the realm of the classroom when minds have a habit of drifting elsewhere. They cajoled, praised, humbled, and forced us into the world that awaited us when the time came. While attempting to “save our souls” they also instilled in many of us the thirst for knowledge, the love of the printed page, the ability to think.

Many of those ladies would be dead now and my only hope is that they went straight to “Heaven”. They had given so much of themselves and their dedication and perseverance had to have paid off somewhere down the line. They helped us build the principles of our lives for the most part and that in itself should be their reward. Whether they succeeded in “saving our souls” is  another matter. But if not, it won’t be because they did not try.

Here’s hoping their idea of “Heaven” is as they had led us to believe. Without the damned “clicker” of course!

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  1. Nuns are sisters with bad habits

  2. “Many of those ladies would be dead now and my only hope is that they went straight to “Heaven”. They had given so much of themselves and their dedication and perseverance had to have paid off somewhere down the line. They helped us build the principles of our lives for the most part and that in itself should be their reward. Whether they succeeded in “saving our souls” is another matter. But if not, it won’t be because they did not try.”

    Amen. After twelve years of being taught by nuns, I was horrified at what passed for teaching at City College (now CUNY).

  3. I went to Catholic school my whole school years, and was also taught by Nuns. I never had a problem with any of the Nuns but the lay teachers were mean and nasty. I wonder where you went to school( area wise, or time wise.) Our Nuns didn’t have clickers or anything like that. Were you in a boarding school?

  4. Pat,

    I laughed out loud reading this! Oh how I remember those lives of the saints. That’s probably what led me to the perverted love of horror movies I have today.

  5. I am also a product of the Sisters of (No) Mercy (Whatsoever)l. I can, however, spell, and I know the multiplication tables by heart.

  6. My sister and I were talking about St. Maria Goretti the other day. Remember our late night discussions awhile back? I guess that particular story has made an impression on most women who went to Catholic school. That someone would be cannonized because she died trying to save her virginity is amazing.

    • I swear to God, the group guarding Abu Ghareib must have studied the same lesson plan.

    • BB: No lie–she is the very saint from whom I took my Confirmation name. Had I known then what I know now, I would have taken Theresa (of Avila).

    • They made us all go sit in the auditorium and watch a perfectly dreadful movie about her life.

  7. {{Pat}} This is a great post. Wow, it takes me back.

  8. Catholic schools are noteworthy for the quality of their instruction, their curriculum, their inexpensive tuition (comparatively) and their commitment to accepting non-Catholic students. My favorite nun was Audrey Hepburn.

  9. I never knew that 14 Carmelite nuns, along with 3 lay nuns and 2 convent servants went under the Guillotine during the French Revolution. I was just reading some lives of women saints.

  10. Pat,

    I don’t understand why you weren’t allowed to drink water between classes.

    • Probably because we would have held up the line as we staggered to the fountain between classes. Regimentation was the key here.

  11. I have a question –

    Is “corrupting a nun” really an unforgiveable sin or was that Mother Superior lying to me?

  12. Pat: That picture is surreal.

    • Boston Boomer picked it out.

    • Don’t you like the rulers?

      What is really funny is that if you look for pictures of either nuns or catholic school girls, you end up with quite a few soft-core porn type photos.

      • Most nuns did not look like Audrey Hepburn or Sally Field. In fact, most strongly resembled Yogi Berra or Ernest Borgnine to be quite honest.

  13. Back in the day…

    It was a different world. I didn’t go to a Catholic school but a rural school out in the sticks. It was on the corner of a section of land and was surrounded on two sides by farm fields and two sides by county roads. Eight grades in four rooms,1-2,3-4,5-6 and 7-8. I fondly remember in first grade the irt clod fights we would have at recess. Everyone would go to the fields bordering the school yard ( thoughtfully plowed and disced into perfect throwing clods ) untuck their shirts, fill the tails with lethal weapons then run back and line up on opposite sides of the play ground. I remember the moment before the sky grew dark with deadly lumps of earth were filled with an almost insane feeling of giddiness. The older kids usually had the lids off of the trash cans to use as shields, the smaller kids would huddle around them in a vain attempt to have at least some cover, all it actually did was cluster everyone up for the eventual slaughter. The principal ( yes I said Principal) would signal the start of hostilities and the clods would fly. I don’t remember any deaths associated with this practice but do remember some ghastly wounds. I did learn a healthy appreciation of agriculture and a well thrown chunk of hardened earth.

    • What a story! Kids will always find ways to have fun and get into mischief.

      When I was in Catholic school, we had a big May day celebration, and one girl was picked to be the May Queen. We had a maypole outdoors, etc. I’m sure that was based on some pagan fertility rite.

      • The teachers and principal would join in the “fun”. I always thought it was just their sneaky way to get even with us snot nosed brats, although it didn’t seem to lessen the pace of corporal punishment in the form of spankings any any. Ahh good times…

  14. I truly treasure the education I received in the Catholic schools. So many of these nuns are living in poverty because they were not paid in the 50s and 60s when I was in school. I believe they received a small stipend from the parish to pay for the expenses such as food, clothing etc. Congress passed a law that allowed vow of poverty religious orders to opt into Social Security. Many did so. The big thing is health coverage under Medicare. When the nuns ran a lot of Catholic hospitals, health care was not an issue. I moved a lot and was taught by several orders of Franciscans, IHMs, Sisters of Mercy (RSM), Most Holy Sacrament (MHM), Sisters of the Sacred Heart, Dominicans (OPs). What I have done to show my gratitude is send donations to their motherhouses for use of the retired sisters I always believed I received a Renaissance education that I could not purchase today.

    • Absolutely true.

    • I went to Catholic schools until we moved to the burbs, halfway through 2nd grade. I was amazed at how much further we were ahead of the public school kids in academics.

    • True about both education and health care. Now we have the Resurrection health system (illinois). they are large and they bought out the hospitals from the nuns that ran them. Then they started charging the uninsured MORE that the insured and (thank the lord) have been charged with crimes. I used to work for one of the hospitals until the Resurrection system bought the hospital. I quit, went to work for the state university hospital, and found them to be more compassionate toward the poor than the catholic hospital I had left !

      • Right. Once the nuns were no longer in control, the “Catholic” hospitals changed completely.

      • Early in my nursing career, I worked at a catholic hospital still run by the nuns. It was incredible – the most spotlessly clean, well-run place I’ve ever worked, and the patient care was amazing.

        It was bought out, the nuns left, and within 2 years it sucked.

        • The Catholic hospital where I was born even had a nursing school, but when getting a BSN in nursing rather than a 2-year degree became the standard, it was merged with the nursing program of a local college and the school was closed.

  15. I wonder if FEMA ever settled with the Little Sisters of the Poor in NO. FEMA took over their nursing home during Katrina, and the sisters moved their patients to other facilities they have throughout the US.

  16. Oh, Pat, I too had 12 years in Catholic school – elementary with the Sisters of Charity and an all girls academy with the Sister of St. Dominic. Those Sisters of Charity were really tough.

    The Sisters of St. Dominic were very different, open to helping us learn about other faiths – which really surprised me after my elementary schooling.

    I’m still friends with a couple of them – one was my history teacher and we often find ourselves elbow to elbow working on volunteer projects in the community we live in and other urban areas.

    One of my classmates is now the principal of the academy we went to – yes, she became a nun – I was shock when I heard she’d entered the convent because she was quite a rebel in high school.

    Thanks for bringing back some fun memories.

    I’m currently on our 50 Year reunion committee tracking down everyone for next year’s event has turned out to be quite a task – although we were hoping that one of our classmates who’s become a noted author would be with us may not make it back from Italy.

    • We had the Sisters of St. Joseph who had a large community in New England for years. Now, not so much.

      • I was also taught by the SSJs in PA. Their motherhouse is in Chestnut Hill, PA, I think.

        • I was trying to think where in Chestnut Hill that would be, and then I realized it is actually just down the street from CH, in my town! There is a fairly large complex that includes a nursing home. When I work at the polls, the long time poll workers are nuns and all of the older nuns come in to vote.

  17. OMG this takes me back. My nuns didn’t have a clicker. They had the wooden ruler. And they used it. Damn that thing stung. I remember being terrified during first grade reading class. If you missed a word Sister Noel not only slapped you, she then went on and on about how worthless you were. She was the scariest person I had ever met, and she was only 4feet, 8 inches tall. I had a similar experience again in seventh grade when we had to diagram sentences. Oh the horror! Oh, and the bathroom lines. We were only allowed to go to the restroom three times per day. Two of them were scheduled, one in the morning after mass and the other in the afternoon. You had to all line up perfectly and be marched down the hall to the bathrooms where they only let a few of us in at time. And there was to be no talking, no noise whatsoever. If there was, the whole class risked being sent back to the classroom without their chance to pee. You did not want to keep another classmate from their chance to pee. If you had to go outside of the scheduled breaks, you had better have a damn good reason, like you were going to vomit or something. Merely having to pee was not good enough of a reason. You learned to hold it.

    There are soooooo many stories.

    • Spending 7 hours days, 5 days a week, 9 months of the year for 12 years prepared you for lying spouses, irate bill collectors, lousy bosses, sneaky neighbors, ill behaved kids, mechanics, doctor visits, creepy in laws, bad breaks, hangovers, labor pains, colic, broccolli dishes, and rainy Saturdays.

  18. I have to admit that if I don’t know how I’d have turned out had I not met the Sisters of St. Dominic – they were compassionate and witty. Well, of course there’s always one in the bunch who creates a challenge.

    Being in an all girls environment allowed me to be me – and to discover some innate talents, gain confidence and surprise myself with the whole experience.

    I too continue to make donations to the good sisters as a show of gratitude.

    • I went to a Catholic women’s college for that reason – so I could be me. Now it is coed so it can receive federal funding.

  19. Oooo, Nancy, you poor little thing. :(

  20. I might have told this story before, but when I had my first Communion, I was going to public school in Lawrence, KS. Of course I had to go to Catechism class every Saturday.

    Anyway, we were getting ready for first Communion, and we all had to line up to go to our first Confession with the Monseignor–the big boss priest. I was a nervous wreck.

    When I got into the confessional, I was so scared and confused that I forgot what I was supposed ot say. The little wooden door crashed open and I was completely tongue tied. I didn’t say a thing. So the priest said brusquely, “What are your sins?” I still remained silent. Finally he crashed the door shut again, so I never got absolution!

    Can you imagine being so mean to a child? I was only 7 years old! I felt guilty about that for years and never told a soul.

    • I guess like everything else, it depends on the ‘person’ that you get. When my son was preparing for first confession, the priest was a wonderful Jesuit who told us it was one of his favorite duties as a priest. He said that it was like being bombarded by marshmallow

    • When I had my first confession I, too, was 7 years old. When the priest told me my penance, I left and started crying. the nun asked me why I was crying and I told her I was supposed to say 3 Hail Marys and I only knew one. I thought I was going straight to h*ll.

      When my sister started school, she refused to go back into the kindergarten classroom. The sister called my mother to come talk to my sis. We found out that she expected to be in 1st grade after spending a day in kindergarten.

      We never failed to amuse.

      • LOL! It’s funny how seriously you take things at that age. I really did feel guilty for many years and often questioned whether my first Communion was really legitimate. I really think people who don’t like children shouldn’t get involved with them at all. That incident affected me greatly, even though it might seem silly now. I literally would wake up at night worrying about it as a kid.

        • I had an uncle who was a priest. I checked it out with him when I was older and braver.
          He smiled and told me he used to say “Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary.” And I could too.

          Wasn’t that sweet?

    • Can you imagine being so mean to a child? I was only 7 years old! I felt guilty about that for years and never told a soul.

      The nun who taught my younger brother’s 2nd grade class screamed nasty criticisms at one of the little girls who started crying in class. Her head hurt. She died enroute to the hospital from a burst aneurism.

      That same nun didn’t bother to question why the priest kept calling some of the little boys over to the rectory. She ignored the distraught condition they were in when they returned to class. He was raping them. Two of those boys committed suicide before they turned 21.

  21. One of my best friend’s neighbors is a retired professor from Northwestern University. He made the comment one day that the best students he had routinely came from Catholic school education. Having had three years of Catholic school education myself–which was superb–I can understand why he would say that.

  22. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it BB?

    Pat you have to write more rants – this is just so great! I love your style – I feel like I’m just sitting there with you over a cup of coffee – or whatever.

    And RD was right (I think it was RD) when she said earlier – it’s so Erma Bombeckesque – I love it – more, more! :lol:

  23. I’m in San Antonio, where due to the largely Hispanic population we have lots and lots of Catholic schools still – all the way up to even small Catholic colleges (Our Lady of the Lake, University of the Incarnate Word, etc.)

    Everyone says that they are the best schools around, and still very reasonable compared to other private schools. I have to hand it to the Catholics – they do education well.

  24. We called the clickers that the sisters used ‘crickets’. I remember hearing that American soldiers used them to communicate in the woods during WWII. They created some kind of Morse code and drove the Germans soldiers crazy.

    I read somewhere that 50% of Catholic children were in Catholic schools in 1960, I’m sure it is a fraction of that now.

  25. I was taught for 12 years by the IHMs. we always said it stood for “I hate men” but it was really the order of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. they LOVED the clickers and I found them frightening, in fact terrifying. looking back, our nuns really were pretty violent. there were several incidents where they went too far and a child actually got seriously hurt. one I remember well was when a nun shoved a girl for talking in the bathroom line, and the girl fell into a wall and cut her head. the rescue squad was called and we were all very quiet in the bathroom line after that.

    on the positive side, we did learn. I could write a term paper when I went to high school, and a lot of kids I later met in college never had. I guess we learned because we were afraid not to – lol.

    one thing I always found a little creepy about nuns was when they called themselves “brides of Christ” and wore wedding rings. wth???

    • Kiki,

      I remember when you told that story before. That is so horrible. I didn’t have any really bad experiences in Catholic school, but my sisters did. I only went for 3 years. I had Franciscan nuns in 4th and 5th grade in Athens, Ohio, and I adored my teachers.

      When we moved to Indiana, we had Dominican nuns and they were more punitive. Most of the focus when I was in 6th grade was trying to make us really fearful about sex.

    • I think I missed something. Even though I went to Catholic schools in various parts of the US, there were never any “clickers,” and I can truly say I never saw any corporal punishment, but I do hear so many accounts of it that I’m sure it happened.

  26. BB, that was a fun night when we all talked about our catholic school experiences. I was amazed at how many of us had gone!

    • Yes, a lot of us here seem to have been brought up as Catholics. It is fun to be able to share those funny or painful experiences. I’m just glad I never had a nun who would cut off my pony tail or hang a little boy from a hook in the cloakroom, as Pat did.

    • I stayed up way late that night. It was the most fun I’d had in a long time. :)

  27. Is the East coast dark for Earth Hour?

    • My lights are off. I hope it’s not verboten to use my laptop.

      • I’m gonna have to shut down in a bit. I can’t type worth a darn with the lights on. LOL!

  28. and Pat, I love your writing! thanks!

  29. got to go. See y’all later.

  30. bye Leslie

  31. lol BB, my dog is adorable, but that picture is not him, it’s one I found online.

  32. speaking of confession, I never knew what to say, so I used to just make stuff up, and I would always conclude by saying I told lies in order to cover the sins I had just made up. so I was actually ‘sinning’ by confessing…….oy

    • I did that too. How many actual sins does a little kid commit anyway? I always used to struggle to decide what was a mortal sin and what was a venial sin too!

      • yikes, I forgot about mortal and venial sins! I guess it’s like the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor.

        can little kids really commit mortal sins?

    • Those were painful. It was like we were interviewing for a job!

  33. Pat, this was a joy to read and an even bigger joy not to have it conclud

  34. So sorry…my cat did that! (She was not schooled by nuns as I was…hehehehe!)

    I was about to write that it was a bigger joy to not have this wonderful warts-and-all tribute conclude with a cynical condemnation of what we received from these women. THANK YOU. (“You may now be seated.” Remember THAT?)

    • Much of what we did we brought on ourselves. Of course their idea of punishment was sometimes harsh!

  35. ot: how do you change your avatar?

    • Native1,

      I’m not sure if I can explain it. Katiebird could help you when she is around. You have to have a wordpress account and be signed in. I know that much. I don’t know how you get to your account page, but once you get there, you can change the picture you use. You also need to clear your cache afterwards and sign out of wordpress and sign back in again.

    • This may help. Sign in to http://www.wordpress.com. Then go to the “dashboard.” Then select “your profile.” You should see the place to change your avatar on the right top of the page.

  36. (waving) I’m sitting in the dark

  37. This is a really charming story!!!

  38. and I can’t believe my keyboard is working again!

  39. I think that we have to start a new political party. I think we should just call it The Third Party and get it going, start nationwide organizing. If we get enough grass roots happening maybe we can attract good candidates. Someone like Hillary.

  40. Obama faces cold reception in Europe

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Economy/story?id=7198914&page=1

  41. Don’t think those nuns would approve, but I just watched the movie, “Sex and the City”! Doomed, but smiling nonetheless.

    • Pat, I think that may be a mortal sin. if I was a nun and I had a clicker, boy would you be hearing clicks right now

      • Remember the Legion of Decency and their movie ratings?

        • Yes! And I made it a point to sneak into all those rated C for condemned because I knew they were better than the soft ratings.

        • I remember the Legion, although I never had to take the pledge. but here it is:

          * On the Feast of the Immaculate Conception 1938, the U.S. bishops requested that the Pledge of the Legion of Decency be taken by the faithful:

          + In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. I condemn all indecent and immoral motion pictures, and those which glorify crime or criminals. I promise to do all that I can to strengthen public opinion against the production of indecent and immoral films, and to unite with all who protest against them. I acknowledge my obligation to form a right conscience about pictures that are dangerous to my moral life. I pledge myself to remain away from them. I promise, further, to stay away altogether from places of amusement which show them as a matter of policy.

    • PAT
      My brother in law on a first date with an ex nun took her to see the movie What you always wanted to know about sex and were afraid to ask.

      A girl I worked with told me when her son made his first confession he told the priest ” I committed adultry five times”.

      WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

      PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  42. It’s fascinating to us ignorant Protestants to read this stuff. The whole concept of confessing one’s sins to another mere mortal who claims to have the power of absolution just blows my mind. But then this is the quintessential difference between Catholicism and Protestantism – the disagreement on the need for an intermediary between God and the faithful.

    When I was a kid (50′s-60′s), I was deathly afraid of nuns, and here in Boston, they were everywhere. If a nun were approaching me from the opposite direction, I used to cross the street rather than pass directly by her. This was the impression left on me by my Catholic friends. Sad, really.

    Lest anyone here think I’m some nutjob fundie, I’m a lifelong member of the most liberal Protestant denomination on the planet. :)

    Wonderful post, Pat, and I agree that you could easily be the new Erma Bombeck.

    • Thanks, Nell. But it is Boston Boomer and katiebird who nudged me on. Their posts are well researched and brilliant and I could never hold a candle. Think of me as the “filler” between the brilliance of the posts that appear here daily.

      • Oh pish posh!

      • …and think of me as the wad of gum under the table. :)

      • Don’t sell yourself short. Pat. It takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there.

        I have an area of interest/expertise(?) that might lend itself to a post (or series of posts) here, but I can’t even imagine holding a candle (as you put it) to the regular front-pagers.

        You know, in the course of my career, I’ve received some accolades for my written words, but every single day when I come here, I am humbled by the quality of the writing of those who contribute their time and talents–you included.

        May God bless all my dear Conflucian friends . . .

        • I’ll keep you in mind, Nell. In case I’m asked for names of prospective writers…

      • (shaking head) Filler. I spit on the thought.

  43. Oh dear Lord Pat! i just got in and opened up the page to see a nightmare in the making! Don’t get me started on Catholic school stories.

    We all got a million of them don’t we?

  44. when I was in elementary school, my neighborhood was about evenly divided between catholic school kids and public school kids. for the longest time, I thought those other kids belonged to a religion called “the publics”…..

    • The town I grew up in was very anti-Catholic. We were only 5% of the population and were considered very wierd and spooky. For a time, the police were harrassing the church. They staged gambling raids on the Bingo games. In desperation the church posted lookouts and if the police were sighted, everyone would hide the Bingo equipment and pretend to be playing Whist.

  45. Every Friday night they would hold teen dances at Holy Name Church. The priest in charge walked around with a pencil and broke in between a couple who was dancing measuring the distance between them by the pencil. That was always fun and welcomed!

    • What was the name of the organization for high school kids in the Church? I used to really enjoy that. We took trips and went to dances in other towns.

    • were they CYO dances? what did that stand for anyway? I’m thinking Catholic Youth Organization, but I’m not sure

    • We used to have nuns that would make their rounds on Friday afternoon through the neighborhood after school going house to house and reporting on the “bad behavior” of the students to their parents. I lived with relatives at the time since my mom had died and my dad was in the service.

      Anyhow, they stopped at our place and tried to tell them that I was smoking in school (4th grade). Well that went over like a turd in a punchbowl because everyone knew I HATED cigarette smoke. The nuns were promptly shown the door and from that moment on, I had more cred than they did. What horrid people these nuns were.

  46. oh my gosh, check out these links!

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    Nuns Having Fun, indeed!

  47. Pat,
    looking at that picture again gives me the willies! Those damn rulers. I remember one time when I was being “punished” for the heinous crime of dropping my pencil during a test, the nun made me go behind the bookcase and squat. I was not allowed to rise up so high that the top of my head would stick out or she’d whapp me on top of the head with a ruler. I was stuck back there for 1 hour. That squatting can get really painful.

    • Oh my God! That’s horrible!

      • That is child abuse and today it would be prosecutable.

        • Child abuse was the order of the day back then. I watched a nun grab a girl by the back of the head and slam her forehead into the window of the bookmobile bus door.

          (JEEBUS! remember the bookmobile!??)

    • Try standing in the corner with a book on your head and your hands by your sides for 45 minutes. I received that sentence for passing an extra pen to the boy sitting next to me in 8th grade.

  48. Paul Krugman to appear on this week’s cover of Newsweek and is being touted as Obama’s “voice of opposition”. I will buy that mag this week as a salute to Paul.

  49. And according to HuffPo, Obama will be facing some tough opposition when he goes to Europe. They are not happy with his handling of the bailout package. Really? Neither are we.

  50. I think those bankers should be required to squat with their ledger books on their heads and their hands by their sides for an hour.

    here’s an idea – bail them out but let the bailout be administered by nuns! ohhhhh, they’ll learn their lesson!

  51. I just read MoDo’s latest piece so you don’t have to. Today’s column is slightly less coherent than recent others. And that is saying a lot.

  52. MyIQ, I took down my post.

  53. I scheduled mine for two hours from now

    Do you want to go first?

  54. No, I didn’t even look to see you had something planned. It can wait for tomorrow or some other time.

  55. Oh my freaking God! This is so hillarious. I went through all of this and more. This has to be the best read ever. And the comments had me laughing so hard I cried..
    I love this story though…Awesome…you’d had to have been there.

    In grammar school the day began with a reading from “The Book of the Saints” which usually entailed a story of a some poor soul who had been burnt, flayed, beaten, stoned, drowned, stabbed, eviscerated, plucked, blinded, boiled, and whipped to death thus granting him/her a special place in Heaven

    It was all abuse.

    We had to line up and take our uniform jackets off so the sisters could check and see if we shaved our armpits and used deodorant.
    And this is one of the milder abuses by the nuns.
    But many of the class went on to Vassar, Welesley, Georgetown etc. where the SAT score requirement was so high it could only met by certain students from Catholic schools.

  56. I guess the Nuns in California are more laid back. I went to school in the 50s and 60s. Sisters of Charity, they taught school and worked at St. Joseph Hospital. Did everyone go to Mass every morning? You had to bring your own breakfast, cause you couldn’t eat before Communion.

    • In San Francisco we have the “Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence”

      They ain’t exactly your “normal” type of nuns.

  57. Oh my does this bring back memories! Especially confession, like kiki, I started making things up in there. I was usually stumped. On confession day they had multiple priests come in, there were confessionals built right into the cafeteria along with an altar behind a sliding door. You could always tell which confessional had Fr. Petro in it, looong line, as he gave easy penance.

    One nun told us each time we sinned we would get a black spot on our soul, that one kept me up at night.

    And good old Sr. Vera dragging poor Johnny down the hall by his ear, it was a loooong hall and she had a death grip. Still can hear him screaming to this day. One did NOT cross Sr. Vera, ever.

    Thanks for this Pat, I love your posts! Great comments all!

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