Conflucian Cocktail Party: The Door in the Wall

Does anyone remember the book by Marguerite DiAngeli about the boy who was to become a knight until he was crippled by polio?  I read the reviews in Amazon and a lot of reviewers think it’s really boring.  But this little book has stuck with me since fourth grade when I first read it for Miss Nishiguchi’s class.  The proverb, “when one door closes, another opens” is a bit trite.  The real power of the story is in the seeking for Robin, the nobleman’s son who finds he no longer has a clear career path before he even hits his teen years.  What’s left when the job you’ve been training for all your life is suddenly out of reach?  He struggles with his pride, he learns to swim, and he takes the opportunities presented to him to prove himself useful to his lord.  He takes the initiative and delivers the message that will save the castle in a way that only he could do.  The point was not to find a door as a consolation.  The point was to find a way to fulfill one’s goal.  And the goal for Robin was to serve his lord so he found the door.

Hillary is doing the same thing.  We will miss her in the Senate.  She could have accomplished great things there.  But she was crippled by her leadership and a seniority system that left her few avenues to success.  But her goal has always been public service and this has lead her to find her door in the wall at the State Department.  We know this is a job that she and she alone has the unique abilities to perform to an exemplary degree.  We wish her well.

So, at this Conflucian Cocktail Party, let’s lift our glasses of champagne and sparking cider high and sing Wassail to the New Year and to Hillary’s new path.

Welcome to the Conflucian Cocktail Party, that time of the week when we kick off our shoes and toast to one another.  Everyone is welcome.  The bar is to the left of the door.  Our bartender, Rico, our faithful companion through thick and thin during last year’s primary and general election season, will concoct the cocktail of your dreams.  Tonight’s special cocktail is an Upstate Manhattan, ‘cos that is where LadyBoomer NYC is.  She’s attending the Bon Jovi concert for Hillary to help her retire her debt.  The Confluence chucked in $125 for a cheap seat and LadyBoomer is partying for us.  We hope to hear from her later on how the night went.  If you would like to help retire Hillary’s debt, because Obama isn’t doing it for some reason, you can buy a Causmo for $10.  Purchase your Causmo here.

Tonight’s entertainment is a little bit of rock, a little bit opera?  In 1998, Jon Bon Jovi and Luciano Pavarotti got together to do a benefit for Liberia and sang Let it Rain.  Enjoy:

Ladies, and I do mean “LADIES”, and gentlemen, this ain’t no dive blog like “The Site Who Must Not Be Named”.  We run a classy joint here.  So, if you feel like entertaining a troll, take it outside or hang your trigger words with Florence our lovely checkroom attendant.  The waiters will be circulating shortly with cheese puffs, chicken satay with peanut sauce and boiled new potatoes with chipotle hummus. Please drink responsibly and tip your wait staff generously.

And join me at 10PM tonight for Conflucians Say on PUMA United Radio (PURrrr)

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  1. Riverdaughter — but I love to swear !!! There is a good video over at Puma eyes – http://pumaeyes.wordpress.com/

    Yeah, watching Hillary and knowing she needed to go somewhere – I am glad it’s SOS — so she can try to restore women’s rights across the world and perhaps some here.

  2. *raises my glass to Hillary*

    I love that woman and I’m so proud of her.

  3. Rico: $25 to the lady of the evening.

  4. Ummm, Bon Jovi! Adorable!

  5. We are so lucky to have her. Young women have a role model to aspire to.
    She will awesome and help so many.
    She is the true patriot and will always do her best for the country.
    She is definitely champagne and only top shelf.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  6. What class!

    I second that Regency! I absolutely love that woman!

  7. ACCKKKKK!!!! IT’s a Conflucians Say!!!!

    Gotta call in…being this my penance week and all.

    PS: Rico IS a true FEMINIST who happens to be a MAN.

  8. What would I do without y’all? I’m serious. I had a not so great day, I’ve been feeling very uneasy about (and sickened by) the continuing and very public O-gasms, not to mention the economic pit we’re sliding into, and I came home tonight feeling very down and a tad hopeless. Oh, and not a little angry. My therapy consisted of reading this afternoon’s TC threads and I’m feeling better already. So, here’s to not only our gal Hill, soon to be Madame Secretary, but also to each and every Conflucian, most especially RD, who has made it all possible.

    Can I have a mimosa, please?

  9. FOR MY #1 PRESIDENTIAL PICK:

    Contribution Details
    Date: January 15, 2009 9:16 PM CST
    Contact: SM
    Tampa, FL 3360X
    Amount: $10.00

  10. On behalf of SM’s return, I too donated $10.00 to Hillary.

  11. Tally so far is $170.00.
    Belly up to the bar, Conflucians!

  12. YAY PAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If I can do hearts in the comments, I would!

  13. Rico, another Bulleit Bourbon. Delish. How many of you have Monday off?

  14. Ooo, lookie! I can do roses:
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  15. I pretty much have most of my Mondays off these days.

  16. That is so cool!

  17. But her goal has always been public service and this has lead her to find her door in the wall at the State Department.

    Thanks so much for that clip RD. That’s how I’ve seen her choice to accept SOS. Hillary is a public servant first, and she is not working FOR BO, she is working for this country, which desperately needs a strong, intelligent, compassionate, and talented envoy to rebuild our shattered relationships around the globe. I am very proud of her, and will enjoy watching her impress the world, as she impresses anyone with an open heart and mind.

    Where was the concert today–in Manhattan right? Can’t wait to get a report from Lady B.

  18. Good show and wonderful to hear SM once again.

  19. RD: With thorns and all… wow.

    I can’t do friggin hearts – Bill Gates, GIMME MY HEARTS!

    Alt + ?????

  20. Pat – I can finally talk without sound like I had a Head O’State down my throat.

    (see previous Cinie comments)

  21. OK…..

    I’ve been gone too long …

    WHICH is the “site that cannot be named?”

  22. ‹(•¿•)›

  23. sm77

    That one

    (points)

  24. RD will you come to the PUMA Bawl Tuesday and have one dance with me? http://partizane.com/node/548

  25. (getting that dusty box of Merlot out from under the sink)

    I’ll be back in a minute with my glass of wine….

    SM, Copy and past this: ♥ (or the code – ♥

  26. (sigh) another failed experiment. Still you can copy and past the actual heart)

  27. &
    hearts
    ;

    =

  28. Show off.

  29. ???

    Did I do it???

  30. You did it!

  31. NH: I would be delighted to dance with you! Thank you so much for asking. Please send me a reminder though, I’m really absent minded.

  32. YAY!!!!!!!

    Pat & everyone: ♥♥♥♥♥♥

    Ok, give it up…just gimme the first and last letters of “The Site Who Must Not Be Named”

    Or do it like Jeopardy… phrase it in a question…

    PLEASE, I’m up past my bedtime!

  33. awe gee RD that’s cool. I better shine my shoes

  34. NH: I’d better wear shorts under my dress.

  35. SM: W.O.N.K.E.T.T.E.

  36. She did it! (I like MyIQ’s formula for doing the code)

  37. NewHampster:

    I LOVE your Star of David avatar!

  38. i decided to wear it everywhere sm

  39. With thorns and all… wow.

    No hay rosas sin espinas

  40. Pat? WHAT did you just type?

    (giggling)

  41. SM: This site’s original headline writer, Ana Marie Cox, used to write odes to the joys of anal sex.

  42. sm if you or anyone wants the avatar please steal it.

  43. Pat: Those jerks?

    Oh please.

    Those idiots can kiss my brown voluptuous behind.

    I’ve been reading Wonkette since they were practicing Clarinet in their Freshman Year in High School.

    Since it Anna Maria Cox left & it was sold off by Nick Denton, it’s not the same. Just a bunch of hipster wanna-be frat boys without the frat-boy money.

  44. Ana Marie Cox, used to write odes to the joys of anal sex.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  45. has this site gone in the gutter since my last visit ;-)

  46. SM:

    It rhymes with Toss

  47. My headache is still raging. Not sure if it is sinus or Obama related.

  48. has this site gone in the gutter since my last visit

    It was a short trip after the Democratic party kicked us to the curb.

  49. I missed the first half of the show. :cry: But the second half was great. :smile:

    Only Bon Jovi can pull off wearing leather (pleather?) pants. And I mean that in more ways than one. :wink:

  50. sm77, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pm Said:
    “Those idiots can kiss my brown voluptuous behind.”

    Ummm…Poing!

  51. I never read that site before. Sorry I missed it when Ana Marie was writing. Must have elevated the conversation to a large degree over there if that was her topic of choice.

  52. SM (grinning)

    I love it that you’re back!

    And NewHampster & RedDragon — (and Simofish and Regency & Pat & MyIQ & Riverdaughter) — wow: Hugs for everyone!

  53. Bon Jovi. Sighhhhhhhhhh!!!

  54. NewHampster:

    NO STEALING!

    I’m just complimenting you on it…there’s a great mystique to the shapes that conform it – the joining of the masculine & feminine, etc… David is one of my favorite things to read in the bible. Flawed, yes, but inspiring nonetheless.

  55. Back at ya Katie!

    BIG HUG!

  56. If the :cry: can cry, why can’t the :wink: wink? hmm…

  57. sm that star is the actual one worn in the German ghettos. says Jude

    now I’ll stop being yucky morbid

  58. :twisted:

  59. :-?

  60. It is now 3 degrees here in Splfd when I checked the local site for weather. Next to the graphic someone wrote in the word “COLD”. Really? And how much did this guy get paid for this earth shattering commentary?

  61. oof! I missed the show! Oh, well.

    *hat tip to Hillary*

    Love her to pieces!

  62. Pat:

    Wonkette was AWESOME. Anna Maria Cox (who is now at Time Magazine) is/was really a true pioneer in the political blogger category. Funny as hell and obliterated her targets, to her liking or displeasure. Also want to f__k them, sometimes. Just AWESOME.

  63. Pat,

    If your sinuses are really blocked up, be sure to get some mucinex. It really helps.

  64. It is fifteen degrees below zero up here in Ohio.

  65. :twisted: :arrow: :mrgreen:

  66. :roll:

  67. SM: They pretty much set off a campaign of hate and ugliness against the Confluence last week. It became pretty egregious after awhile since they stooped to some pretty mean comments. Completely juvenile.

  68. Ahhh. Mucinex (and Mucinex-D) It’s the best. Be sure to drink gallons of water when you’re taking it.

  69. bb: Don’t forget I have my own “drugstore” down the street.

  70. Pat:

    They didn’t stoop, that’s all they got.

  71. NewHampster:

    That’s right! The yellow star! How could I forget. So sorry. It was like a badge to wear at all times.

    But this is WHY we resist, so that this doesn’t happen again.

    And I’m truly scared for the future.

  72. It’s incredible. My mom (in Indiana) said it’s supposed to go down to around 20 below there tonight. That is so bizarre. It’s going below zero here too, but not quite that cold. But we’re near the ocean. That’s helps.

  73. nite New Hampster.

  74. Oh, {{littleisis}} you MUST have a hug.

  75. Wait, could this perhaps be hell freezing over?

  76. Pat:

    Naw, it’s still pretty warm here.

  77. Contribution Details
    Date: January 15, 2009 10:27 PM CST

    Amount: $50.00

  78. Jmac, that really takes me back!

  79. it is minus 14 here in Chicago

  80. BostonBoomer:

    WHEN YOU CAN, please call me… if you lost my number, I’ll email it to you.

  81. If you take mucinex drink several glasses of water just as the label says. I made the mistake of not doing so once and felt even worse. Also, last winter I dicovered the Zicam swabs. They really helped me. They should be used at the very first sign of a cold. I’ve also used it occasionally for just sinus problems and it helped.

  82. Ha!

    Yes Pat…Hell freezing over! Sure as heck feels that way!

  83. Pat: It was a great blog – if it got its prestige it’s only because of one name: ANNA MARIA COX (and subsequently Nick Denton the former owner.)

  84. In a few minutes C-Span is re-airing Hillary’s farewell address.

  85. It is a sewer now SM.

    The level of hate we witnessed when they declared Jihad on this site was disgusting.
    I still can’t believe they won the award.

  86. SM: It is not so great now. Kind of reminds one of Kos or what constitutes the comment section over at HuffPo. Tripe.

  87. After 40 minutes of Joe Biden’s Farewell. Damn, shut up.

  88. After sitting through those interminable speeches during the SoS hearings, Hillary must have felt she was back on her “listening tour”. Talk about bloviating blowhards!

  89. You are being too kind to the Huff-n-Puffers Pat!

  90. Regency, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:35 pm Said:

    In a few minutes C-Span is re-airing Hillary’s farewell address.

    I haven’t seen it yet. How was it?

  91. RedDragon: lol

  92. Wankette reminds me of the line “There’s no ‘there’ there”

  93. Biden is in love with his voice!

    Shut the F@@@ already!..LOL

  94. LI: I haven’t seen it either but I heard it was great.

  95. RedDragon62, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:37 pm Said:

    It is a sewer now SM.

    The level of hate we witnessed when they declared Jihad on this site was disgusting.
    I still can’t believe they won the award.

    Are you really surprised? They’re Obots. they played dirty. that is what Obots do!
    I honestly don’t care. Karma is a b*tch. What goes around comes around, and they’ll reap what they sow in the next couple of years, as Teleprompter Jesus’s Presidency becomes exactly what we think it will become.

  96. RedDragon:

    You mean Hairplug Joe?

  97. helenk, on January 15th, 2009 at 10:10 pm Said:
    Patriot- that’s the word you used to describe Senator Clinton. It is an old-fashioned word and can rarely be aptly used these days: but you did. Senator Clinton is patriot. Listened to the clip, and her fondness and respect for the Senate as a institution reveals that.

    Also, gotta love the line about how when she misses Schumer all she’ll have to do is turn on the TV!

  98. But you can’t beat Kerry for phrasing a “question” that lasted 20 minutes. Even he forgot the original intent when he finally arrived at the end. It was so long it gave Hillary time to have her nails done, iron a shirt for Bill, and pack Chelsea’s lunch.

  99. Pat Johnson: I get bad headaches, including sinus headaches. Have you tried a steamy towel or washcloth across your forehead and cheeks?

  100. Regency, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:43 pm Said:

    LI: I haven’t seen it either but I heard it was great.

    They have it up on Hillary Daily. I will likely go watch it there later.

    Feeling any better, Pat J?

  101. Heidi: So true. If there is a mic laying around anywhere Schumer will find it.

  102. Pat Johnson, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:45 pm Said:
    Well, the headache has not affected your most excellent wit.

  103. She only gets ten minutes compared to 40 minute Joe.

  104. Myiq2xu, looks like Angry Black Guy has found his soul mate of TGW: NeoFeminist. Hahaha. I’m over there slamming down all of her inane comments.

  105. Hair Club for Men!

    That shine bouncing off his dome is screwing up my plasma screen!

  106. Heidi: I did that yesterday as a matter of fact when it was really full blown. Spent the day on the couch drifting in and out of naps. My son in law is a pharmacist and gave me some little green pills. They work for the short run.

  107. Pat Johnson, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:45 pm Said:

    But you can’t beat Kerry for phrasing a “question” that lasted 20 minutes. Even he forgot the original intent when he finally arrived at the end. It was so long it gave Hillary time to have her nails done, iron a shirt for Bill, and pack Chelsea’s lunch.

    LOL! My eyes always glaze over when he talks. Damn, I have been missing all the action tonight. I was having a bad day so I have been rereading one of my favorite books, The Poisonwood Bible to cheer myself

  108. Did anyone think to put a mirror under Byrd’s nose during Biden’s “Farewell to the Troops and All That” address? I worry.

  109. littleisis: No kidding. That is the choice for our next Book Club reading for March. Is it any good?

  110. Wonder why Biden gets to babble for so long? I suppose it’s because he has been there for a gazillion years. Palin said he was elected to his first office or for the Senate or something when she was in second grade, lol. And Palin is younger than my mother!

  111. DV:

    I seriously doubt that “Neofeminist” is either female or a feminist.

    “She” claims to admire Hillary but still voted for Obama.

    What’s wrong with that picture?

  112. Pat Johnson, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:51 pm Said:

    littleisis: No kidding. That is the choice for our next Book Club reading for March. Is it any good?

    GASP! You haven’t read it?
    OMG, it is amazing. It is one of my favorites, you will likely love it.
    Barbara Kingsolver is also a great writer. She is someone I aspire after. Big Dawg gave her a literary award for Poisonwood. Proof that he has impecable taste, as well as being a hottie and married to Hilary.

  113. Any bets on how long it will take before he starts to cry?

  114. littleisis: I ordered it from Amazon yesterday. I will take your word for it. We usually read a book that another member has read and recommends. I will let you know how it goes.

  115. Time to be in keeping with the toasting to fellow Conflucians. I sort of think of us as what bowling teams in bowling leagues once were. You’d get together to bowl and you’d be together for a purpose, but over the din in the alleys you’d be able to chat about this and that. You could let each other know what other activities you were up to and some people would want to join in those two. And after a while, if the team stuck together, it would turn out that, yes winning the league championship sure as heck mattered, but so did the team and all the projects and concerns that got interrelated and intertwined over the weeks of bowling.

    Much has been written about how Americans don’t live lives that admit of bowling together anymore. But the people who visit this blog, whether resident in the U.S. or not, actually are a team. A team of readers and writers, posters and commenters (and of course the two groups are not mutually exclusive).

    I raise my glass to the team’s victories yet to come. Senator Clinton’s presidential bid brought a number of us together, and we’ll follow her career with interest and support (the thinking person’s kind: not blind loyalty but constructive assessment). As we enter new seasons we’ll be focused on other goals – but always bowling for the team. To every strike!

  116. I am sure Biden will not let the moment go by without mentioning his father. Not that I put that down but he seems to cry in cue when he gets to that part.

  117. Biden gets more minutes because as he boasted today:

    “I’m the most experienced vice president since anybody.”

  118. Myiq: There are many like her. They are filled with MSM misinformation. Goddes knows why they voted for BO. I still scratch my head over it.

    Most young girls grow up in this culture not knowing a hill of beans about feminism anyway. They are told by their boyfriends and brothers that feminists are hairy lesbians that don’t swallow.

    Regency and I can both attest to this.

  119. Oh Heidi, that was lovely. What a lovely allegory.

  120. Shut up, Joe/

  121. The fauxgressive blogosphere lost all credibility because they didn’t speak up against the egregious misogyny last year and they in fact perpetuated it. They lost all credibility to call anyone anything. Like I always say, they chose Obama because he caters to upper middle class white males and nothing will change whereas Clinton was the transformational candidate.

    Always remember that the gross misogyny and race-baiting are their smokescreens to maintain class privilege.

  122. Pat and all the sinus sufferers
    Try vicks vapor rub under your nose and across the nasal passages under your eyes and on your forehead between your eyes and for some reason at the base of your scull.
    It works. A doctor told my daughter to do this instead of nasal sprays as they can become addictive.
    Heidi
    Thank you
    Senator Clinton is a true patriot and has been one all her life and will continue to be a patriot.
    Wish we had more like her.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  123. littleisis, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:57 pm Said:
    Wait, wait, I am confused: feminists ARE NOT all “hairy lesbians that don’t swallow”?

  124. That was too serious so I’ll have red wine now.

  125. Beautifully said Heidi! I lift my glass to you and all the readers, posters and writers here. I have grown as a man by my experiences here!

    I owe the beautiful women, with their brilliant minds, a debt of gratitude for the lessons learned here.

    Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this great community!

  126. That was beautiful, Heidi, and so was your post earlier today.

    Good night, everyone. I have to get up at the crack of dawn tomorrow. I love you all.

  127. Bartcop has a cartoon up for Bush exiting:

    Misery Accomplished

  128. Sleep well, BB!

  129. donnadarko, on January 16th, 2009 at 12:02 am Said:

    Absolutely spot on!

  130. I am off to bed as well. Great company as usual!

  131. Six minutes to something worth watching.

  132. Nite Boston!

  133. Little Isis:

    Neofakefeminist is an ABG sockpuppet. “She” is over there at TGW cutting and pasting the standard troll script:

    Clinton came with too much baggage.

    She ran a negative campaign. That turned me off.

    She was wrong on the Iraq vote and refused to take responsibility for that mistake. Obama was right from the start – all of the reasons he listed early on prooved true.

    The sniper fire comment was really stupid.

    I don’t like legacies. She came across as thinking she was entitled to the nomination. We’ve had enough of the Bushes AND Clintons.

    This one is priceless:

    “As a woman am I not entitled to have my own opinion?”

    “Her” opinion is the exact word-for-word opinion of the Obama fan boiz.

  134. Red wine is the official PUMA drink. Remember that from months ago?

  135. G’nite Pat

  136. If anybody needs it, I have Hillary’s farewell up permanently on my site. Scroll down to the VPod widget, for now it’s the first one up.
    http://cinie.wordpress.com/

  137. Night to all the goers.

    Five minutes till Joe Biden goes the hell away.

  138. Oh good the professor agrees. (They always do.)

  139. No Ambien for me tonight. Watching Biden was all I needed.

    Goodnight all!

    Spirits willing, we will see you all tomorrow.

    Yaatahe!

  140. No Jo(k)e Biden, btw.

  141. Bon nuit, mes amis.

    xxoo

  142. Heidi Li, on January 16th, 2009 at 12:04 am Said:

    littleisis, on January 15th, 2009 at 11:57 pm Said:
    Wait, wait, I am confused: feminists ARE NOT all “hairy lesbians that don’t swallow”?

    No,I mean, that is the frat boy and hollywood imagery of feminists that is pushed. (my brother: imminent archon of sigma alpha epsilon for three years running now…)

    What I am trying to say is:
    girls my age are raised in a very sad environment. I suppose thats always been the case, but it seems to just get worse and worse.
    Like, clothing companies that usually advertise to sixteen year olds, are starting to advertize to teeny boppers. (tweens) because they know thats where the money is.
    It is a mindset. I find myself thinking this way and having to stop myself.
    Its why so many teenage girls were obots. A lot of them secretly love Hillary and secretly voted for her as well, but wont admit to it out loud for fear of being ridiculed. I cant tell you how many times I’ve had to act like an Obot to please some of the people I run with.
    I stopped doing it a few months ago, though. And just chose to not say anything when the subject of Obie, their “chocolate fudge Sunday” *barfs* came up.

  143. Myiq:

    Exactly. A zombie. And no matter how much you make a fool of them and disarm their mailed talking pints, they just repeat the same sh*t over and over again. They are like broken records, so I just don’t even bother to respond to them anymore.

  144. littleisis, on January 16th, 2009 at 12:14 am Said:

    Hey, hey, hey – I was teasing you, earnest one.

  145. lol, I know Heidi, I just felt like elaborating.

  146. I really love this woman.

  147. Isis the magick kitty is listening to Hillary and purring.

  148. littleisis
    There was no such thing as a teenager until the late 1950′s.
    Before that you were a kid until you were 18 years old.
    Marketing was targeted to the parents not the kids. The kids did not have the spending freedom they do now.
    There were not as many two income families and kids were treated as kids. If they wanted something they had to do odd jobs to earn the money or save it if they were lucky enough to have an allowance.
    The only rights they had were what their parents gave them.
    God help you if you talked back to any adult or did something in school to be punished for because your parents punished you also.
    That may sound harsh but maybe it was better. If you did not do your school work you failed.
    If you disobeyed you got punished.
    People were teaching responsible habits to kids and teaching them how to stand on their own two feet.
    Was it perfect ? No nothing ever is.
    How many kids today are just looking for guide lines and some one who cares enough about them to give them guide lines?

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  149. Seneca shout-out!

  150. That’s what a feminist looks like.

  151. littleisis
    You and Regency are two of the lucky ones.
    You both have a brain and know how to use it.
    Someone helped you along the way to be able to do that.
    You may not have liked all the methods but both of you could stand on your own two feet and do what ever you aspire to do.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  152. helenk:

    A lot of kids,, believe me, but I do think today is better than the 1950′s. I know a lot of people older than me wouldn’t agree, but I suppose thats a generational perspective.
    I think both today and back then had their benefits and drawbacks, how kids are/were treated and raised, I mean. But I don’t know anyway. I’m eighteen and don’t plan on even thinking about that for another twenty years. I suppose I’ll figure it out as I get older.

  153. littleisis
    You and Regency are two of the lucky ones.
    You both have a brain and know how to use it.
    Someone helped you along the way to be able to do that.
    You may not have liked all the methods but both of you could stand on your own two feet and do what ever you aspire to do.

    You would be surprised, my friend.

  154. There are moments when she sounds so certain that the future will be bright. I want to trust that because I know how bright she is and how much she knows; but, then, I turn on the news and the world’s on fire. How can I believe that it will end well when the Fireman’s wearing his helmet backwards?

  155. littleisis
    I have so much faith in both of you. I really do think you could do whatever you had to do to be a success.
    You have brains and will power and will find the opportunities to do your thing. You will find a way around or thru the obstacles.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  156. There are moments when she sounds so certain that the future will be bright. I want to trust that because I know how bright she is and how much she knows; but, then, I turn on the news and the world’s on fire. How can I believe that it will end well when the Fireman’s wearing his helmet backwards?

    She understands karma and positive manifestations. She knows she has to have faith if she and anyone else can ever get through anything. She might be a Scorpio, but she has a moon in Pisces. She is very intuitive.

    She is also the greatest leader of our time. And I am not ashamed of saying that.

  157. (((((helenk)))))

  158. littleisis, on January 16th, 2009 at 12:37 am Said:
    A lot of kids,, believe me, but I do think today is better than the 1950’s. I know a lot of people older than me wouldn’t agree, but I suppose thats a generational perspective.
    ***********
    I agree.. People who say the ’50′s were better weren’t living then or they have selective memories.

  159. Thank you for that vote of confidence, Helen. It means more than you could possibly know.

  160. evening folks!

  161. evening afrocity!!!!

    Yes, Helen, that does mean more than you could possibly know.

  162. ‘ello, Afrocity.

  163. I think that the 70′s were the best

  164. I pretty much agree with you SHV. Knowing what I know about the 1950′s, it doesn’t seem like there was much room for individuality back then. I think I may have been institutionalized by now, if I had lived back then.

  165. Late to the party (gosh, we haven’t had a cocktail party in a while, have we?) but I’d like some sort of good microbrewery lager. I miss those down here.

  166. And it also seems to me that a lot of people pretended to be happy back then, but were only kidding themselves, and led pretty desperate lives.
    I could never live that way.

  167. SHV
    I did not mean to imply it was always better, It was different.
    Today the kids have so much thrown at them from a very early age.
    I was a foster child in the 1950′s so no I do not think it was perfect.
    We were in a cold war and the atom bomb was a real threat.

    What I see now is too many kids not being made to take responsibly for their own actions. That will hurt them big time when they get into the job market. It will also hurt them when they try to stand on their own two feet.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  168. SCRUBS!!!!
    (((((scrubs)))))
    I’ve misssed you like crazy!

  169. helenk, on January 16th, 2009 at 12:57 am Said:

    SHV
    I did not mean to imply it was always better, It was different.
    **********
    I agree…there was the good and the bad…despite the constant threat of nuclear “doomsday”, people were optimistic and went about their business. The “average” American could aspire to be “middle” class and buy a house and have some sense of social stability unless you were not “white”.
    *********
    littleisis, on January 16th, 2009 at 12:56 am Said:

    And it also seems to me that a lot of people pretended to be happy back then, but were only kidding themselves, and led pretty desperate lives.
    I could never live that way.
    **********
    It’s is difficult to generalize from one’s own social perspective, but I would say that statement is more applicable for today’s society.

  170. Just lurking.

    Hello PUMAs!

  171. Hi, Amazonia.

  172. SHV:

    yes, it is applicable to our society, but I think more so back then. Today, if you are different or unique, even in a good way, it certainly is hard.
    But I think back then, it wasn’t even thinkable to be different and/or unique. And I think that has had lasting effects on our society that still linger, and are even prominent or obvious, today.

  173. Have had an exhausting week at work; but am lifting my glass to you all before I fall asleep in my bed instead of on the couch …

    sending love and HUGS

  174. night swannie!!!!!
    (gives love and hugs and kisses and tacos)

  175. I went to school with black and white. Being a foster child I was treated as a second class citizen. I remember a neighbor asking me if I was one of the maids.
    I was told I was the scum of the earth because my family did not want me.
    There is more than one reason to be treated differently. It is not always color.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  176. helenk:
    This is true. I wasn’t just talking about color or gender.

    btw, Regency, I always thought Hillary had an attitude like Samwise Gamgee:

    I love that LOTR scene more than any other movie scene that exists, because it is exactly how I feel.

  177. Helen: So true. Sometimes it’s felt like I’m treated differently because I have one parent instead of two. It isn’t my fault that my father couldn’t be bothered. There’s nothing wrong with me or my mother. There was everything wrong with him. Still is.

    People treat others as less because they don’t feel enough confidence in who they are already.

  178. myiq2xu, neofeminist on TGW sounds like a very angry and deranged person. Everyone on there is arguing with her quite rationally and she (or he) doesn’t realize that they are the one lashing out at people. It’s amazing that they are the ones angry when their candidate won. It’s like they’ll never be satisfied until every single person in American is an Obamabot. It’s frustrating and scary at the same time.

  179. I’m in moderation

  180. littleisis
    Thank you for that clip. I had never seen the movie.

    I am sorry for the poor pitiful me stories.
    I survived and survived well. I have 4 kids that can stand on their own two feet no matter what life throws at them.

    If we do the best we can and look for opportunities to better ourselves we are ahead of the game.
    I really do think you two will survive and thrive.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  181. Hel: It’s only “poor pitiful [you]” if your name is Barack. It’s not, thus, we understand. You lived a life. You get to share that experience with people. There’s nothing bad about that.

  182. unfortunately I don’ think this generation of kids are growing up with the ability to take care of themselves or know anything

  183. helenk: You are not telling “pitiful me” stories. You should be proud of what you’ve overcome. There’s no shame in that. I’m proud of you and I’m glad there are people out there like you, because it just goes to show that sad, lonely girls really can beat the odds against them. That is inspiration that so many lost people sorely need.

    Regency: You are right. People feel unhappy or insecure, so they project those feelings on other people, and they just end up hurting themselves more.
    As for your dad, be glad the mother f*cker isn’t around. You’re much better off without him, and you’re too good for him. You’re better than him.

  184. Regency: As if Barack and his whiney, b*tchy wife don’t have great lives that so many people would kill for.

  185. frenly: Thats because so many kids have to raise themselves.

  186. LI: Yeah, thanks. That whole thing is one cluster of stupid.

    I can’t stand BO and MO. I just can’t. God. *head desk*

  187. littleisis

    Thanks for the link to that LOTR scene. I really enjoyed it. Gotta have faith…even in those times when you’re beat down and surrounded by rubble!

  188. LIttleIsis:

    Don’t ever be ashamed to admire, adore, or emulate Hillary Clinton.

    You are right, she is the greatest leader of our times. And no-one can ever take that away from her, no matter what.

    She will always rise to the top, no matter gets named as the winner.

    I think even we will be awed by her greatness in years to come.

  189. Good nite everyone.
    You two young people remember to find the laughter,joy and good times as well as working to get what you want out of life.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  190. I’ll try to post again and replace a with @:

    myiq2xu, neofeminist on TGW sounds like a very @ngry and der@nged person. Everyone on there is @rguing with her quite r@tionally and she (or he) doesn’t realize that they are the one l@shing out at people. It’s @mazing that they are the ones @ngry when their candidate won. It’s like they’ll never be s@tisfied until every single person in @merica is an Obamabot. It’s frustr@ting and sc@ry at the same time.

  191. lol Regency. It is what we call a clusterf*ck.

    Thanks Erica! I agree with you.

    firelight: I know, right? I love that scene. It always makes me blub.
    Anywho, I’m off to chill with the girls folks: Blanche, Rose, Dorothy and Sophia!
    Good night!

  192. Good night, everyone.

  193. I’m alittle too late to the conversation but I see a hugh difference in the generations just in the last few comments. My mother divorced my father in the mid sixties and raised three girls without his drunken help. My mother, and we as kids, were gossiped about and judged endlessly but went about our lives with heads held high. That’s what made me into the uppity bitch that I’m proud to be today. I don’t have children myself, but both of my sister’s kids are the most spoiled, living in a dream world, immature children you could imagine. frenly, you’re right. They are not prepared. They’re lazy, in all respects.

  194. 11 year old twins with new ipods – I have to beat them off the computer to get back here and now the party is over.

    Anyone still around?

  195. If y’all have the chance, go over to Tennessee Guerilla Women tonight and tomorrow because it looks like someone from W@nkette has found the site and is there along with Angry Black Man. This new tr0ll is named “ne0 feminist”. Anyone from Wankette is n0t a feminist. She’s over there arguing unsuccessfully with myiq2xu and no2caroline.

  196. myiq2xu, ne0feminist on TGW sounds like a very angry and deranged person. Everyone on there is arguing with her quite rationally and she (or he) doesn’t realize that they are the one lashing out at people. It’s amazing that they are the ones angry when their candidate won. It’s like they’ll never be satisfied until every single person in America is an Obamabot. It’s frustrating and scary at the same time

  197. Oh, cool. Off to TGW I goooooooooo.

  198. The red wine was good.

    More outrage: Obama Pens Open Letter to Daughters

    OK, what the hell. Creepy and exploitative. He must have gotten the PUMA and now Salon commenters message he only cares about himself.

  199. Obama paraded his kids on TV (Access Hollywood?) when it was convenient for him. I noticed David Shitster didn’t object. Barky then said it was not planned, spontaneous. Sure – bring in all those cameras and lights and audio equipment, put on lavalier mics and batteries on everyone. No planning whatsoever…

  200. RAW STORY commenters too. I haven’t read fauxgressive blog comments lately.

  201. Congratulations, cheers and all the best to our Secretary of State, the loved and admired, Hillary Clinton…

    …the best part and star of the whole election…

    what an inspiration she is…

  202. This is an interesting post on No Quarter:
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/15/what-will-an-obama-presidency-be-like/

    This was my response:

    “As a final note, I’ve spent a decent amount of time studying the rise of Movement Conservatives, so many of my thoughts are on how Obama’s inexperience and temperament fit into the plans of the conservative movement, even if Obama does not share their convictions or intentions. In other words, even a well-intentioned person with poor leadership can lead to disaster.”

    Well said. I don’t know what the Republicans intentions were in this election but not even the leadership rallied around McCain/Palin the way they usually do around their candidate. My take is that they knew it would be an uphill battle to begin with, the nation is in a mess after 8 years of Bush, and they weren’t looking for a “maverick” like McCain who wouldn’t further their agenda – whatever that might be.

    Honestly, some Republicans might even see Obama as more willing to cave into the right-wing agenda and getting away with it because his supporters won’t hold his feet to the fire. Rick Warren is the ultimate example. If McCain had done such a thing, the left wing would still be up in arms about it and McCain might have ultimately decided not to invite him. However, with Obama, even some of teh gays are getting used to the idea of Warren at the inauguration. The Republicans see this and know that Obama is extraordinary in that he is a ruthless, morally corrupt politician who has fooled his supporters and the media into believing that he is one of most righteous and honest politicians ever to have graced national politics.

    The Republicans are holed up re-branding their image and deciding what they need to do to win in 2012. Never believe that the Republicans have given up. They have been weakened by Bush but as the economy weakens, more people lose their jobs, and Obama betrays his supporters, the Republicans only become stronger. It will be an interesting 4 years both with Obama and how he handles all of these problems as well as what the Republicans do to attack the Democrats and what they will try to do to win in ‘10 and ‘12.

  203. I’m in moderation again.

  204. Did you buy presents, cooked diner for Sanctity of Life Day? What are you waiting for? It’s right around the corner
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/how-will-you-celebrate-sanctity-of-life-day/

  205. If all else fails, edge, we’ll send off some “Happy Belated Sanctity of Life Day” cards to our loved ones.

  206. Heh, heh – How about dry flowers for that irony effect?

  207. Disengranchised Voter
    It is an interesting post. It just misses one point: One billion price tag. It’s the cost of power these days, and part of it comes in unmarked bills from abroad

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