A minirevolt is underway at Facebook after photos of mothers nursing their babies were removed from their personal pages.
More than 58,000 people have joined a Facebook group called “Hey, Facebook, breastfeeding is not obscene!” to complain about the censorship.
Organizers will conduct a cyberprotest Saturday, asking every supporter to change his or her profile picture to an image of breast-feeding.
“We need to take our bodies back,” said mom Stephanie Muir, one of the group’s administrators.
Facebook is very concerned about *The Children.*
A Facebook spokesman said it removes photos only if the entire breast is exposed.
“These policies are designed to ensure Facebook remains a safe, secure and trusted environment for all users, including the many children [over the age of 13] who use the site,” said Barry Schnitt.
I share the outrage these women feel, but where was the mass protest when Jon Favreau and friend groped a lifesize cutout of Senator Hillary Clinton and posted it on Facebook? In fact, the disgusting Jon Favreau group grope photo is still posted on Obama’s favorite speechwriter’s fan site. Why no *concern* from Barry Schnitt about that?
So, according to Facebook, children must be protected from seeing women nursing their infants, but the President’s speechwriter groping the future Secretary of State is just fine?
By the way, why hasn’t Jon Favreau been fired yet? And even more outrageous, why has Jon Favreau been named one of the six “Bostonians of the Year?”
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BB – I didn’t mean to post right on your heels. But as it turns out I think our posts work well together. So, with your permission, I’m going to leave mine up and hope that people will be able to take in both. Is that ok with you?
Heidi Li,
Then could you put a “more” thingy on yours so they both show up?
This country is truly Fu*ked Up!! Protect the children??? Maybe if the kids are exposed to breast feeding as the normal way to feed babies, we will be better off as a society.
Maybe someone should create an anti-Favreau facebook group.
DV,
Maybe we could. I joined and Dakinikat is a member.
So breastfeeding is offensive but the hundreds of groups degrading women’s bodies and are borderline pornography aren’t offensive? But facebook is run by a bunch of 20-something Favreau types from Harvard so who should be surprised by what they consider offensive? Breasts on facebook are meant for horny 20 year old men to drool at, not for babies to feed on.
I’m not sure how to set up a Facebook group, but if we could, we could post all our photoshops of Favreau and Obama groping different people. We could post the one of Favreau groping Obama too.
We could offer a prize for whoever can name the other groper too.
BB, someone from PUMA should set this up. Will Bower is already an admin for several groups. Maybe Murphy would be interested in doing this?
DV,
If we aren’t PUMA, who is. We originated PUMA at the Confluence. Murphy got it from us with permission. I’ll get in touch with everyone and make the suggestion.
Will Bower has disappeared, according to Riverdaughter.
Obama won’t fire Favreau because needs him. He believes that drivel he writes for him. It’s exactly what Obama would write if he could actually write. No, I haven’t read his books.
The other groper has been identified. I just read it again somewhere today. I’ll check.
I believe the other groper is another speechwriter Ben Rhodes.
GAgal,
I read one of the books and parts of the other one. Don’t bother. {{ Gag!! }}
I thought it looked like Ben Rhodes in the background. I thought it was the other speechwriter, I forget his name right now. Whatever, he needs to be publicly shamed.
This is a very good post, BB. And I like the facebook idea. I think we need to learn more about using Web2 tools for developing ideas and goals.
Will Bower has disappeared?
BB – I’ll just take mine down and schedule it go up later. Sorry about the confusion.
DV,
I didn’t mean it literally. I think her exact words were “left us in the lurch.” I think the Just Say No Deal People are no longer active since McCain lost. They endorsed him.
Heidi Li,
Don’t take it down. People will read both. It’s pretty late, so whatever is here should stay up.
BB – I’m suffering from tekkie-idjit syndrome. I couldn’t quite figure out how to add the more thingy. Wait a sec, I’m going to try again.
Also, if you want me to, I can try to set up the facebook thingy.
DisenfranchisedVoter, on December 21st, 2008 at 11:41 pm Said:
I love your comment. And BB, forgive me for being doubly rude. Not only did I step on your post, I forgot to mention that it is IMPORTANT.
bb, That’s unfortunate. I wish they would at least remain affiliated with PUMA instead even if they are no longer active leaders. McCain was never the main reason why I was interested in PUMA. The group is for Democrats fed up with the lies from Obama, the DNC, and the media. I suspect we’ll get more people interested as groups who endorsed Obama are thrown under the bus.
Heidi Li,
You just find a good spot for a break and then click the “more” button up at the top of the post. I could do it for you if you want. But you moved your post way down the page. You should put it back on top. It’s much more important than mine. I just e-mailed you about it.
Heidi Li,
Are you familiar with Facebook? I was thinking maybe Dakinikat could do it. She has a Facebook group. I want to make sure Riverdaughter likes the idea before we do it. I asked Murphy about it too.
DV,
I think they were more interested in promoting themselves than anything. It was our idea in the first place, and we’ll carry it forward along with Murphy and others.
bostonboomer, on December 22nd, 2008 at 12:42 am Said:
Cool, BB, I’ll leave the facebook mission to others who are better organized than I am. Frankly, the reason I’m not familiar with facebook is that I have found too much of it sophomoric (sorry to those who are fans). That facebook would decide breastfeading cannot be depicted and to give such an absurd reason confirms my view.
BB, I got your email, and no, friend, both both our posts are important and they’ll both eventually get read and commented upon.
Thanks, Heidi Li. I agree with you about Facebook, but we need to get as much publicity as we can, right?
Hey, maybe we can get Facebook to start a campaign against taking down everything on their site we think is harmful to children. Oh wait…I forgot..that’s not what liberals do…that is what new-style-Obamabot-liberals do.
No one under 13 is allowed to use Facebook anyway. I’m sure most 13 year olds have seen a breast.
I didn’t like the way Bower hijacked the PUMA name – he claimed he got it from a friend and had no idea anyone else thought of it first.
I also didn’t like the way he kept saying he wanted Hillary to be McCain’s VP way back in June.
I suspect he wasn’t really one of us.
I never had a good feeling about him either.
We’re still sorting out who “we” are – who really shares enough common ground to make common cause. I find the process interesting if at times also a bit exhausting.
OK – I’m always bringing this up too late and there hasn’t been a good time but I want to repost an idea from yesterday for anybody who happens to see this.
Warning: highly O/T
I am organizing a Conflucian Secret Santa/Happy New Year event:
if you want to participate, drop me a note at heidi59 at gmail dot com with your snail mail address. The rules – created by angiec (I take no credit and refuse any blame). When you submit your address it will be traded to another Conflucian who will attempt to mail you something that costs $20 or less by New Year’s.
So far about 5 people are in – I don’t care if we don’t get more and I’m happy if we do. Opt in, don’t. Take it or leave it. No pressure, participate if it sounds fun!
I agree that there were aspects of PUMA I did not agree with. Some of the stuff that was said on news networks were not a good idea in my opinion. Like I said, this was never about McCain though I completely understood the reason why some voted for him in protest. I would’ve preferred the mission, or at least the mission now that the election is over, to be to hold Obama and progressive organizations to their word. Some of the people running PUMA sounded too Republican for me (wanting Hillary to be McCain’s veep is one absurd and unrealistic example). It’s okay for some members of PUMA to vote for McCain but I always thought the leaders should not have portrayed themselves as Republicans or Independents but as yellow dog Democrats who felt betrayed by the party. I think that would bring in more people like many gays and lesbians who now feel betrayed by Obama because of Warren.
Breastfeeding Isnt sexual , and requires a view of womens breasts that is not erogenous …what else would you expect of a group of envious immature males and evidently facebook is owned by exactly that according to wiki
DV:
Part of the problem was that PUMA wasn’t planned, it just happened. Lots of different people with different agendas latched on to the PUMA name.
Not all of them were people we really wanted to associate with.
Oh Gawd! The first thing I thought of when reading this post was that they could have a guy cup a cardboard breast but not show one in the natural way of feeding a baby? Absolutely ridiculous.
swannie:
I don’t have a Facebook account.
I’m more of a “quitter” than a “joiner”
I don’t really even like blogs that require registration.
I only joined so I could look at Favreau’s page. He took it down, I guess. But there is a fan site and he provided them with photos, according to them.
I joined under and alternate e-mail address, a .edu address.
G’night BB
‘night, myiq. I’m about to turn in too.
I’ll be up for a while – I saw your comment on the other thread.
I have insomnia too, and I’d rather surf than toss & turn
Facebook is more for the 15-30 year old crowd. The oldest people I know personally on facebook are in their late 30s/early 40s or they are professors and school administrators who are no doubt looking up students as well as posting events at the school. Most are in college and grad school so between the ages of 18-30 would be the approx. age of the majority of facebook users. Which is why most worship Obama and why Jon Favreau has a fan page.
I saw a special on tv (BBC?) about BO’s new offices in Chicago. They interviewed various high-up staff members. One was a blonde frat-boy type who was one of the founders of facebook.
http://valleywag.com/383364/facebook-frayed-by-founders-feud
I also found this about facebook’s hacking origins :
http://tinyurl.com/73uted
We need only hand this over to La Leche League International. They have a bevy of breastfeeding lawyers that will handle the problem… non-gratis.
LLLI is excellent at handling this kind of discrimination. No other national mother’s group speaks so powerfully…. and with one voice.
Here is a good place to start:
http://www.llli.org/Law/LawBills.html
You will need to know which state Facebook operates from in order to see how current laws may affect their actions.
Good Luck!
It’s okay for some members of PUMA to vote for McCain but I always thought the leaders should not have portrayed themselves as Republicans or Independents but as yellow dog Democrats who felt betrayed by the party.
The thing that united all PUMAs was that they were originally Hillary supporters. Hillary’s coalition consisted of many groups and one of them was independents that normally voted Democrats. From what I remember, it was some Obama supporters that started the meme that PUMAs were republians and the representatives were seen as such. No pundit from CNN or MSNBC wanted to admit that there were Democrats that didn’t like Obama. PUMA representatives were mostly shown on FOX which led some to think they were republicans. Murphy and Will Bower always presented the alternatives- voting for McCain, third party or staying home but since it was entertainment news, the main focus was on voting for McCain. That was what the pundits wanted to focus on. – How can you vote for McCain when Hillary and Obama have the same policies? Why McCain? But he is a republican
Wow. I just looked for the ‘breastfeeding not obscene’ group and Facebook’s admins have removed it.
The site’s running waaaay slow today, also….
About google… I’m reminded of several months ago reading on a blog about Obama’s supporters “google-bombing” sites. They were purposely hitting on negative items about Hillary or McCain thousands and thousands of times to bring those sites to the top of the page. I was curious so I googled Puma. On the first page, 3rd site down- in capital letters-Black Bear vs. Puma. It was an old, old Mutual of Omaha video of a cougar trying to take a kill away from a bear. Never once did the narrator use the word Puma. This had to have been a massive coordinated effort by Obots – or either one really bored bot. There’s no way it would have come up to the top otherwise. It was searched for, re=titled and google-bombed up. This just shows the maturity level of Obots.
Facebook banned my account – which I wasn’t even making use of – for my asking them to reinstate Will Bowers. I should think their politics are quite well defined. These kind of men do have a strong obsession with women’s breasts. Almost as consumming as the one about their own penises.
[...] championing the little cutout fun with Hillary, Facebook Bobot bans breastfeeding images proving they have the exact disorder Woody Allen warned us in “Everything you wanted to know [...]
I grew up, in part, on the Texas-Mexican border and some of the most beautiful paintings in art classes were done of mothers breast feeding their babies. No one thought anything about it in negative or embarrassing terms. The renditions always were of a loving mother and baby.
Sad what we have come to in this sick society.
And here is the artful depiction of the disorder by Woody Allen
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/woody-allen-predicted-facebook-breasts/
edgeof forever: Are you serious?! Just because you simply asked them to reinstate Will Bowers, they suspended your account? Crazy! Obama must have operatives working at The Facebook to do something that extreme. You should write a post about it at your blog or at PUMA PAC. More people need to hear about this.