Does it Offend you Now?

 Obama Chief  Speech Writer Jon Favreau figureitoutph2008120403612in yet another one of those ‘innocent’ frat boy moments for Team Obama.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does it take to get men to understand that acting out rape fantasies is not funny?  Swanspirit did a little photoshop with the offending facebook photo and I want you to play a little infinite regress … will it offend you now?  Start putting the heads of your mothers, your daughters, and other women you know in the shot and ask yourself is this offensive? 

Riverdaughter’s been on roll about this and I suggest you check it out.

update:  Oh, jon’s a busy boy …

Does it offend you now? caro

135 Responses

  1. Thanks, Dakinikat!

  2. I’m emailing the MO image to everyone I know.
    Can someone post a link on NQ?

  3. I wonder if the other two guys in the picture are speechwriters too. I found the names of two more young Obama speechwriters: Adam Frankel and Ben Rhodes. I’ll see if I can find any pictures of them.

  4. (continuing from last thread) RD, I will sit this one out like you suggested. Also, I sent an e-mail to you that got incredibly garbled in transmission and wondered if you got it.

    Among other things I said thanks for the kind words about my Markos poem– was that ever a box office bomb. So long for now.

  5. Funny, I wonder where all the trolls have disappeared to?

  6. bb: only cause you asked! I was going to leave it on my site.

  7. OMG! Brilliant!

  8. johninca
    you have been insufferable.
    please leave these women alone, dude.

  9. John in Ca is fine.

    He disagrees with us on tactic and there is nothing wrong with that.

  10. Dakinikat,

    This is Ben Rhodes. He looks to me like the guy laughing in the background of the photo. He’s the one in the middle.

  11. John is sensitive. I think it’s a good idea for him to sit this out.

  12. Another photo of Ben Rhodes. He’s the one on the left.

  13. i think that’s possible bb

  14. Another photo of Ben Rhodes. He’s the one on the left.

  15. Dakinikat! — brilliant as usual —

    RD – I think the woman in the back is waiting for her turn — that’s what I think. Read you’re earlier post.

  16. This one of Ben Rhodes kind of looks like the guy in the baseball cap. I can’t find one of Adam Frankel yet.

    http://www.nysun.com/national/obamas-inner-circle/71651/

  17. Yep, nothing wrong with sensitivity. I think that if it bothers him he should sit this one out. Nothing insufferable about that. We all aren’t always going to agree on tactic.

  18. The trolls are at a frat party.

  19. yeah, bb, but i think the guy in the back might be Ben Rhodes … i posted the two names to Gretawire and asked her if she and the staff could follow up … if all three of them are there, and two of them are the groupie feelie changie guys, we could wipe out some of that great rhetoric before the big speeches happen

  20. love to see some stammering at the first state of the union and the inaug. …. that’s close to fatal errors in teleprompters

  21. Dakinikat,

    I think he’s the one in the back too. He looks a little older. Adam Frankel is younger than Favreau. Rhodes is about 30.

  22. Ben Rhodes worked on the Iraq study group and Adam Frankel helped Ted Sorenson write his book. How do you get jobs like that anyway?

  23. bb: work and fundraise in campaigns, have rich parents that get you internships for senators … fairly easy if you either work for a candidate or your parents have money … join young dems or young repugs

  24. My guess is the young guys get those jobs easier than the girls do. They get to be secretaries and clerks.

  25. I posted this on the previous, now deserted thread:

    One of the aspects of the cardboard meme the obots are trying to spread that’s so frustrating (and painful) is that’s exactly what they want to do: Turn us all into ineffectual cardboard cut-outs that they can have their way with.

    I think the people who aren’t understanding our anger haven’t been treated in the way those two creeps are treating the “cardboard.” I have. And it is NEVER funny. Do Favreau and his pal pull wings off of flies for kicks too?

  26. Woohoo I love the one of Caroline too
    guerilla photoshop

    I LOVE IT :)

    thank YOU SO MUCH , i say we have to use what ever is at our disposal , …..

  27. swanspirit: katiebird did that one.

  28. we’re voting if pelosi or huffington come next

  29. This is a very simple clear issue that reflects on OBAMA’s JUDGEMENT in hiring this speechwriter to supervise things at the White House. We can call on Obama for specific action: fire the groper. This demand lends itself to Alinsky tactics: isolate Obama and/or groper, ricicule them, etc.

    We should make news media focus on how many of us are protesting and how clever our protests are. Don’t let them divert the focus to the Campbell Brown types who are criticizing Hillary!

    Circulate some images like this with the victims Margaret Thatcher, BEnezier Bhutto (yes, she’s already assassinated), Golda Meier, etc. Or Queen Noor or other current Middle East women. Is this an example of his diplomacy?

    Go to news media that are printing “Obama’s Radio/Video Address for December 6.” that have comments up (none have yet) and ask if this was written by the FAcebook Groper, and when Obama plans to fire him. Do this on all major Obama quotes.

    I’ve just blogged a list of links to stories on the speechwriter which allow comments.
    http://pumaresponders.blogspot.com/2008/12/more-places-to-comment-on-speechwriter.html

  30. gxm17, on December 6th, 2008 at 9:11 pm Said:
    I posted this on the previous, now deserted thread:

    One of the aspects of the cardboard meme the obots are trying to spread that’s so frustrating (and painful) is that’s exactly what they want to do: Turn us all into ineffectual cardboard cut-outs that they can have their way with.

    I just cannot resist this one … they obviously do better with cardboard cut outs than with real women

    my son gave up card board cut outs ; and he only ever had robo cop and Jason ( who I would not let him keep so he gave it to a friend whose mother would not let him keep it either and it ended up in the back seat of my car where i saw it in my rear view mirror for three days before I made him get rid of it….

    when he was 14

  31. Oh, good idea, Pelosi, McCaskill, etc!

  32. OMG! Thank you. The “shoe on the other foot” tactic is very effective IMHO.

    I get so pissed off seeing these entitled, ignorant @ssh0les with their hands on ANY of these women. I want the cutouts to come to life and slap the sh*t out of the moronic Obots.

  33. Nice work KATIE BIRD !!! love it

  34. I think that the reason that we are so outraged, and probably will be over the next few days, is that we can easily see how this misogyny got so out of hand during the last 11 months,

    That picture must have allowed KO and the like to sit around guffawing at Favreau’s pre teen antics. Laughing, giggling, high fiving and most assuredly posting that picture on all the dorm walls.

    It keeps repeating the same old thing, “Obama beat the bitch!” in so many words.

    I am still clinging to the ceiling after 24 hours.

  35. Frankly, I’m offended by seeing ANY woman (cardboard or not) being gang groped by frat boys. Wish I knew photoshop—I’d put Obama in the middle between those two clowns.

  36. As a parent, I would have some very huge concerns allowing my daughter to work with these thugs in that atmosphere.

  37. Izzaradar – I know what you mean, but that wouldn’t drive home the point of how misogynistic it was.

    It would be fun, though!

  38. Chuck “does not get it”. Funny? How about your Mom, daughter, wife or girlfriend in that picture? Still funny to you?

  39. chuck? what chuck? upchuck? nutchucks?

  40. Over at Corrente, someone commented that the guy couldn’t help it. Because of testosterone, and the fact that men mature so late, he couldn’t help what he did.

    Well, my answer is, then why would Obama hire him as his director of speech writing.

  41. Nope, madamab. But tables turned—and I doubt if any of those frat boys would be thrilled to see their images groping another guy. Especially their boss.

  42. Oh, Pat. As if Chuck has a girlfriend!

    ;-)

  43. Chuck got sent to Spammy.

  44. T … at 27? that’s like TEN years past high school!

  45. Pat: nah, i have the button, chuck was nuked

  46. dakinikat: You are fast!! You little devil you!

  47. That comment about men and testosterone is a lame excuse, and an insult to all men. Testosterone has nothing to do with guys not growing it—it’s our culture that condones these kind of pranks.

  48. i’m a bad bad puddy tat, pat

  49. Swanspirit,

    Will you please do some more photoshops? Some possibilities: Rachel Maddow, Samantha Power, Arianna Huffington, Mrs. Markos Moulitsas.

  50. T: That comment at Corrente about men and testosterone is a lame excuse, and an insult to all men. Testosterone has nothing to do with guys not growing it—it’s our culture that condones these kind of pranks.

  51. Obama is doing a one hour interview on MTP tomorrow. I hope it snows here so I can be out shoveling that rather than listen to what he may be shoveling on a Sunday morning.

  52. fsteele,

    Good work!

  53. I love it when the Obots take umbrage at the slightest hint of criticism over Obama but are willing to just shuck off anything that may rise to the level of controversy when applied to others.

    Talk about blind devotion! His Wonderfulness must be protected at all times. The rest of us can go to hell.

  54. Pat,

    Just don’t turn on the TV. You love to read. I hope to God I won’t be shoveling tomorrow. I am not ready for that yet.

  55. Bostonboomer I would love to :)
    Rachel Mad n how

    will be so much fun

  56. swan: you create: I post as an update …. it’s synergy!

  57. bb: Been awhile since I turned on the Sunday morning talk shows. I plan on doing Christmas cards, baking cookies and sauce (not together but you get the picture) and going out visiting in the afternoon.

    I would not give Obama 5 minutes of my time let alone a solid hour. There is nothing he can say that would hold my interest.

  58. How about Obama his-self? How could that be done without demeaning some woman?

  59. Don’t forget to send Rachel a copy so she’ll understand why the original was so offensive.

  60. Dakinikat,

    I think we should put them in separate posts so they really stand out.

  61. My son lives in Reading, MA. I should ask him and his wife to go to No Reading and picket Favreau’s home.

  62. So the Obots think 27 is still young, foolish and irresponsible? Boys will be boys?

    Something tells me it is themselves they are excusing. It’s pretty lame to be living in their mother’s basements at 27, ain’t it?

  63. At PUMAPAC, someone said the Hillary cutout asked for it, she was leading them on, and she really wanted it, …

  64. haven’t found a pic of adam frankel yet, here’s a short bio from CFR, maybe be one of his old schools?:
    Adam P. Frankel was a Rosenthal Fellow in the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism at the U.S. Department of State and has worked in the Office of Presidential Speechwriting at the White House. He was educated at Princeton University and the London School of Economics and Political Science, where he was a Fulbright scholar.

  65. just as an fyi: it looks like new oleans may be sending the first vietnamese american and a republican out of our district to congress!!!

  66. Does that mean Frankel worked for the Bush administration??? He’s only 26, so when did he work in the Office of Presidential Speechwriting?

  67. bye bye dollar bill Jefferson!

  68. What’s remarkable is here is the PROOF that the sexism and misogyny was coming straight from the top. Obots always recite the lie that it didn’t come from Obama and that he couldn’t be blamed for his supporters’ or the MSM’s actions. Well now we know that the man surrounds himself this sh!t. We have honest-to-goodness visual evidence. And what do obots do in the face of this evidence? They make excuses for it and begin dispersing the incredibly vile “cardboard” meme.

    Rachel Madcow would be good. I say no to the Huffer. She’d consider it a compliment.

  69. More like Putzes will be putzes.

  70. Bush admitted to youthful follies up until his 40th birthday. Apparently the sociologists were wrong; males do not “mature” until middle age.

    Judging by those standards, when I married my husband and I were both 20. This means I must have actually married a pre schooler just out of diapers if you follow that reasoning. No wonder it didn’t work. He was never good at sharing his crayons.

  71. it’s 59-38 so far with 27 out of 45 precincts reporting

  72. Hmmmmmmm is there a hint of cleavage in her cardboard cutout. We all know that the frat boys can’t resist a woman unless she is in a burkha

  73. Google” picture of Adam Frankel” and you’ll get several pics

  74. plainjane31, on December 6th, 2008 at 9:37 pm Said:
    How about Obama his-self? How could that be done without demeaning some woman?
    ————————-

    Easy! Put Obama in the original picture with the speechwriters.

    And do another of Obama in the middle being groped by Tingle Matthews, Olberman, etc!

    It needs a simple slogan to focus on though: “Fire the Speechwriter!” or some such, to let everyone know who is really responsible — Obama!

  75. Adam Frankel Fullbright bio:

    Adam P. Frankel: Adam graduated magna cum laude from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University. At the London School of Economics, he currently studies for a MSc in European Politics and Governance. Adam spent this past summer serving as Research Assistant to Theodore Sorensen and completed a Fellowship with the Office of Counter-terrorism at the State Department. He has also worked in the Office of Presidential Speechwriting at the White House and travelled extensively researching global AIDS on a grant from the Circumnavigators Club Foundation. At Princeton, Adam was president of the College Democrats, Program Director of Head Start, Columnist for the Daily Princetonian, and a Founder of the campus chapter of the Student Global AIDS Campaign. Adam plans to attend law school and specialise in public and international affairs.

  76. the beer bottle is in the nostril though… the photoshop ones tend to miss the nostril

  77. Nijma: Just goes to show that “smarts” does not equal commonsense or civility. But from his cv it looks like he may be on course to lead the world!!!!!!!!

  78. gotta love narcissitic adolescents …facebook, myspace … just gonna shine the light on all of the lil buggers … my doc daughter says most of her friends have purged theirs so it doesn’t effect their residency aps … but damn, those poli sci students wannabe lawyers aren’t so smart, are they?

  79. Putting Obama in there is letting them off too easy.

    Nij
    He sounds like he has a full itinerary. Nary a moment to attend frat parties.

  80. I really think Rachel Maddow would be good. The Obots worship her. Although Michelle is pretty shocking.

    Grrrrr….I am getting so upset thinking about these disgusting Obots.

  81. woops, i’m doing spellos today like crazy!

  82. Book smarts is just book smarts. Nothing more, nothing less. And it clearly hasn’t been the little jerk’s ticket to a social life.

  83. The photoshopped ones need to tilt the head back, that’s what makes the difference.

    Also find funny looking dumb pictures of the victim in the first place.

  84. I see Frankel worked in Aids research. Could that mean that he is gay and has an aversion to women?

  85. Nijima,

    Somehow Adam seems to have avoided being photographed. I wonder if he has a facebook page?

  86. I vote for Maddow too. I’d like to do Stephanie Miller, but she would probably like it.

  87. fsteele
    Or we could have PEBO being groped by a cartoon character of some sort.

  88. Good night all! I need to get some sleep. (Stayed up too late last night-into-morning.)

  89. I still say Markos’ wife. I want to see him make excuses when it is someone he loves that is the subject of frat boy behavior.

  90. i trust swanspirit to know …

  91. CWaltz – I know what you mean, but I think he is paid off. He’ll say whatever Obama wants him to say.

  92. Oh I know book smarts don’t necessarily translate to real world smarts and vice versa.

  93. googling around and it seems that Ms. Rose Schlossberg (and adult child) is pretty wild and there are some photo-shopable ones there. I’m not sure if she is the infamous child that got Mrs. Schlossberg to become an Obot, but she should be as fair game as every other woman in America.

  94. ^^Frankel

  95. Well, IMO we should be making it as uncomfortable as we can for them paid off or not. I want each and every one of the apologists to have a personal stake in it while they are making excuses for this guy.

  96. Do we know that he had that fellowship? It’s a very common name. There are a bunch of Adam Frankels on Facebook.

  97. that looks like Frankel=the right kisser … check the jaw line

  98. yankel, sorry

  99. check out the cleff chin .. dimpled chin and chin line

  100. Here is one more pic that is definitely of Frankel.

    http://www.zidouta.com/2008/02/14/jon-favreau-26-chief-speechwriter-to-barack-obama/

    This is the face of the “new” Omerica.

  101. I remember asking in February or so, when I was still trying to bring sanity to Eschaton:

    How many times can we ignore the obvious, excuse the inexcusable and defend the indefensible? Obama cares nothing for his base and sucks up to the fundiegelicals. He surrounds himself with r*cists, terrorists, misogynists and homophobes. He has never forcefully defended ANY traditional Democratic position. Can we just stop pretending this man is deserving of Democratic support?

    The moronic fuckwads worshiped him anyway. I am so sick of Obama already and he’s not even Preznit yet.

    Lord, give me strength.

  102. ^^ oops! Last link was of Favreau… blah. It’s time for sleep. g’night!

  103. Dak — this is beyond brilliant.

    I vote for photoshopping BO, Oprah, that obnoxious sexist person on CNN (Campbell somebody?), and anybody else who has been sexist — long list, can you make a macro or something? And can this be sprayed out to the media? Remember that Broadcast feature on TM’s site? Maybe set it up, they use a quick comment or two over there to broadcast to media, then scrubbing will be too late?

    Go for it. The more the better. Get them groping each other too. I think this one went way over the top, revealed that these guys are really the disgusting privileged white frat boys I always felt must be working the controls from behind the screen.

  104. here we go Rahcel Mad N How

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/SwanSpirit/Rachelmadnhow.jpg

    and I hope this gets the point across :)

  105. Rachel mad N how is LIZ DEXIC and in moderation ;(

  106. Just remember – all of Obama’s “brilliant” speeches were written by this moron.

  107. I never thought a single one of his speeches were brilliant , I thought they were puerile, trite and belabored the obvious , not to mention condescending and arrogant and snide.

  108. bostonboomer,
    There’s a dozen or so adam frankels on facebook, but that’s all I can see without having an account. Is there someone who can get into facebook that can see more and tell if there is any more matching information?

  109. Might be a great Saturday!

    With 139 of 492 precincts reporting (28%), Joseph Cao is leading 58 percent to 39 percent over incumbent Representative Bill Jefferson.

    I’m almost going to start to get excited!

  110. When I googled and read about him last evening, a couple of his speechifying idols were Peggy Noonan and W’s first speech writer. Nuf said.

  111. There is a female speechwriter too. Her name is Sarah Hurwitz, and she worked for Hillary during the primaries–as her main speechwriter. She must be the woman in the background.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/28/uselections2008.barackobama

  112. swannie – Well-said. ObamaMania is about being right, pure and wonderful just because you worship The One. No one wants to give up the virtuous glow of Voting For The Black Guy.

  113. Swanspirit,

    That’s perfect! Should we put it up right now? We need a new thread. I think we should post one of these at Real Clear Politics.

  114. Nijima,

    I tried signing up for an account, but they wouldn’t accept my college e-mail. They only take hotmail, yahoo, etc.

  115. Night, madamab!

  116. Night madamab
    .. bbyou can do what ever you wish with it I am only too happy to help !!!!

    and that one totally cracks me up

    btw Rachel Mad n How maybe i am enjoying it too much ;)

  117. Has anyone sent the photoshopped one of Michelle to BO?Let’s see what he has to say about that…even better ladies, can you imagine what MO would be shouting???????
    OMG!!

  118. I can’t think of anything worse then being a woman and standing idly by and allowing a bunch of men to behave in such a manner. I’m sure she has her “feminsit” creds though because I bet she’s pro choice. Ugggh

  119. ok since you didnt ask LOL let me tell you how I REALLY feel

    little frat boy FAVREAU
    if you can play with cardboard cutouts … I can certainly play with a little photoshop .

    I have some plans for just his pic :)

  120. bb, hotmail and yahoo are easy enough to set up a new account, I have old accounts I used when I didn’t want spam in my personal email. Gmail used to be harder because I think you had to link it to a cellphone.

  121. New post up.

  122. swanspirit

    The other day I was thinking he needed a vienna sausage, something really teeny tiny. Something befitting a guy who so obviously needs to get his dates drunk to get anywhere.

  123. Nijima,

    Why don’t you use one of your old accounts to sign up?

  124. I can’t get all that excited about the woman in the background. She’s not laughing and she seems to be looking sideways at the guy at the table. She also has her hand on her hip in a “disgusted mom” pose. Who knows what that’s about. It also looks like she might not be able to see what’s going on since the guys with the cutout have their backs to her.

    I wouldn’t try to argue with any drunk boiz myself, no point in being a control freak or alienating someone who has the ear of The One. You can’t be responsible for what everyone in the world does, only yourself.

    The guy at the table –he could be that Ben guy and so could the other groper. It’s also not clear if he’s laughing at what’s going on or can see it, although the camera angle makes it look like that’s what he’s reacting to.

  125. The guy at the table looks like Ben to me.

  126. Nijima,

    Come up to the new post.

  127. The old account is if I need a somewhat public one for work. Also my time is limited–my point was it’s not that hard to set up more than one email.

  128. What does it take to get *women* to admit that this kind of thing is sexist and misogynistic and should not be tolerated whoever is the victim? Meanwhile, as lefties start to worry that their wonderboy might in fact be a wolf in lamb’s clothing, the number admitting they were wrong about the sexism and misogyny too is just about zero. What’s wrong with the picture? So few people can see what is wrong with it.

  129. It takes women to realize that this kind of behavior is what is the problem, not who it is done to. When women engage in or approve of this kind of behavior to “one” woman, to “that” woman they are in effect saying it is all right to do it to any women. Unless and until all women understand that, there will always be girls in the background nodding their empty little heads in approval or laughing along with the boyz.

    Not saying that woman in the picture is doing that. Can’t see her well enough to tell. But I’m sure there would be plenty of girls willing to do so. I call them “girls” because in my mind real women, grownups if you will, would not tolerate such behavior. You don’t have to confront the miscreants, since confronting a bunch of drunken hooligans would not be a wise move. All you have to do is leave.

  130. I showed this picture of BO staffers groping a cardboard cutout of HRC to my teenage son. The first thing he said was, ‘What if that was Michelle Obama?’ That was the first thing I had thought, too. Then I showed him your photo of MO being groped, too.

  131. It was good to put up the comparisons.

  132. I hate these pigs!

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