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My Voting Strategy

Hear Us Roar!

Hear Us Roar!

Our beloved blogmother has asked all of us Conflucians to “come out” and explain what we are doing on November 4th, and to choose a word that would summarize our NOBAMA position.

My word is “misogyny,” and I’m voting for the 30% Solution in order to begin improving the lives of women throughout this great country.

I wrote this post a couple of days ago about how John McCain is passing out Hillary-oriented flyers in Pennsylvania. Although many PUMA blogs have been focusing on the flyers’ explicit panders to PUMAcrats, very few people seem to have noticed this language from Senator McCain:

I share Senator Clinton’s goal of promoting women to more important roles in government. By the end of my first term, I promise you will see a dramatic increase in the presence of women in every part of the government. You have my word on it.

Just get your PUMA jaws around that and chew on it for a while.

Mmmmmmm. Tastes like feminism to me.

To further quote from the post:

When Barack Obama was asked by Hillary Clinton’s supporters if he would make a similar promise, he said no.

Senator Obama has shown nothing but contempt and scorn for Hillary Clinton and her voters. He thinks he can win without us, and to prove his obstinacy and lack of respect for her and what she represented, he refused to even vet her for the Vice Presidency and took every opportunity to spread the most disgusting lies about her and her husband.

John McCain, however, is committed to to advancing the 30% Solution, whether he calls it that or not. He had the courage to pick a female Vice President whom he knew would be subject to the same virulent misogyny that Hillary endured. He pays his female staff more than his male staff.

Between these two candidates, who has exemplified a more feminist attitude?

Because of John McCain’s clear recognition that women are underrepresented in government and his written and verbal commitment to do something about it (which he has already begun to execute, with the nomination of a female VP), my top-of-the-ticket vote for McPalin has started to feel more like an endorsement than a protest, despite my disagreement with them on a whole host of issues. As for the rest of my votes, I will be choosing women whenever possible, and since I do believe in divided government despite my anger at the Democratic Party, I will be voting on the Democratic side.

Who do I think will win on Tuesday? Well, for the record, I continue to believe that the Democratic primary forecast Senator Obama’s future. He could not convince his own Party to vote for him in all the swing states and large blue states that have always been needed to win the Presidency. The same people who didn’t vote for him then will not vote for him now. His inexperience and shady associations have not magically disappeared in the past few months. He has shown no understanding of either the economy or foreign policy, but instead, copied the homework of both Hillary Clinton and John McCain, who led the way in both areas. Despite almost a $500 million money advantage and the most favorably biased media coverage since Bush v. Gore, Barack Obama has not made his case to the American people. We see through the hype and know there is nothing backing it up. 

But as we know, my opinion is just an opinion. We truly don’t know what will happen until after it happens, and anyone who tells you differently (like New York Magazine) is just pushing an agenda, and a pretty obvious one at that.

My fellow PUMAs, remember that you own your votes. No one – not your spouse, your kids, your family, your favorite politicians, or your Party – has the right to tell you how to cast them. And no matter what happens on November 4th, we will all still be here on November 5th, together, ready to fight for our country and our democracy.

Fellow Conflucian Myiq2xu wrote a post recently stating that no matter who is elected, we have already lost. I agree wholeheartedly that our best choice was taken from us, and instead of choosing between excellent (Hillary) and awful (McCain without Palin), we now have a choice between terrible (Obama) and semi-okay (McCain with Palin). It is difficult to be truly happy about making that choice.

But I consider this election cycle a personal victory, and I hope you will too. For this was the year my eyes were opened to the deep-seated misogyny within the Democratic Party and our society in general. This was the year I discovered that the famous feminists of yesteryear have become a snotty, lazy bunch of enablers. This was the year I understood that my Party has been lying to me about how bad and evil Republicans are. This was the year I threw off my partisan blinders and elitism and understood that this is a beautiful country, made up of sincere people who are just trying to do the right thing for themselves. This was the year I discovered the words, “agree to disagree,” and found that they were good.

And I do believe I’m not alone, and that the PUMA movement will become a unifying force in American politics; a force based on finding common ground, not on demonization and name-calling; a force that can effect positive change no matter who the President is. 

PUMA POWER!!!

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242 Responses

  1. Great post … you really do have to ask if abortion rights is the only thing that makes you a ‘real’ feminist. As we advance all kinds of women to positions, we expect all kinds of voices, even those we may not completely agree with. I, too, think it’s time we get our full share of the conversation and that a consensus that comes with full participation of women, will be a consensus that supports all of our rights.

  2. Morning fellow PUMAS…….

    Great post – I believe we need to have a PUMA party for disenfranchised Dems (like me), and others who feel that they don’t belong to one of the established parties – I intend to stay a PUMA after November 4 & I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we PUMAS will be able to keep our promise – to do everything in our power to make sure that teleprompter jesus goes back to his thug buddies in Chicago with his mean wife & eats his waffles……………………..maybe he could think about all the ways he lost this election – nah never happen – he’ll figure out someway to blame it all on Hillary……………………………………….

  3. I read something over at Kitty’s litter box to the effect that McCain doesn’t really mean what he says.

    My thinking is at least one candidate is pandering with promises. The other one (that one) won’t even do that much.

  4. Madamab, you make me laugh, you make me think — both great gifts, thank you.

  5. Nice post, madamab.

    Most do not appreciate the complexity of the feminist arguments being made in relation to Clinton and Palin, but I think you do. While it is true that many of Palin’s positions are anti-woman in my view, it is also true that her very career and candidacy exemplify another aspect of feminism. It’s way more complicated than most feminists suggest – they seem to reduce it all to abortion rights sometimes.

    In addition, if you take their arguments to the logical extreme, all that women have to look forward to is a continuation of a majority-male power structure that will give us little ladies our abortion rights if we play nice, but that will never tolerate the real thing (someone like Hillary) in high office.

  6. Yes. madamab! That’s on my mind too (next to the stolen election).
    This is what I wrote as a comment to Robin Morgam assault on PUMA

    And while I still am not sure which, make no mistake – I am going to vote for a woman (or two) for President. You can just iron Obama’s shirts while you feel superior to me.

    And that’s how specific I intend to keep it.

  7. molly
    My point also was: if ideology mattered that much to those people – they would not ignore McKinney/Clemente. Doing so, reveals their sheer hypocrisy. It’s all about shilling for a campaign.

  8. Marc Rubin:

    “When you have a candidate who finds $300 million isn’t enough to run for President against a candidate who took public financing and has only $89 million to spend, it seems like Obama could be headed for a real Lincoln Moment. The one where Lincoln said you cant fool all of the people all of the time.”

    http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/

  9. Obama will not win Pennsylvania, Ohio, or Virginia!

    The Breaking News on the audio of Obama talking in San Fran about his desire to bankrupt the coal industry is spreading like wildfire this morning. Won’t be long before it goes nationwide.

  10. myiq – Isn’t it amazing how these people just refuse to get it?

    McCain has ALREADY kept his promise. Should he be elected, Sarah Palin will be the first female Vice President ever. That alone is already more than the Democratic Party has done for women in the past 24 years.

    Based on his actions this cycle, I see no reason to believe he will not continue to give women an unprecedented prominence in his administration.

  11. Just a thought. When you improve the lives of WOMEN you also by proxy improve the lives of both the children they conceive, carry and rear and you also improve the lives of the men they love, endure and take care of. By improving the lives of women you improve the lives of everyone. EVERYONE. It is basic, it is sensible and it is what is right. My wife isn’t a second class citizen. She works hard & smart and deserves equal pay, equal recognition and equal representation. When she gets those things my life is much better because I can afford a better lifestyle. I will be happier because she will be frustrated less and because she will be happier. Women are equal partners not pack mules. End of rant.

  12. Madamab:

    Remember how some people said he picked Palin just to try to win women’s votes?

    What’s wrong with that?

  13. But I consider this election cycle a personal victory, and I hope you will too. For this was the year my eyes were opened to the deep-seated misogyny within the Democratic Party and our society in general. This was the year I discovered that the famous feminists of yesteryear have become a snotty, lazy bunch of enablers.

    I agree. This IS the year where we discovered that the Democratic Party doesn’t really support our goals. And, instead of expecting/hoping the party will advance our cause we had to organize with a new purpose and will to do so ourselves.

    Elections have consequences.

  14. And here’s another little tidbit: last night I saw an interview Obama did with Wolf Blitzer. Wolf asked him which economic advisors he might choose if he became president. Obama said ‘people like Warren Buffet and Larry Summers’. My blood pressure went through the roof. Larry Summers, if you don’t know him, was forced to step down as President of Harvard University a few years ago after he made comments about women not being as successful as men in math and science academia because their brains just work differently and they aren’t as good at it.

    Either Obama doesn’t know this little tidbit about Larry (which seems entirely implausible given the uproar about it in the news at the time) or he doesn’t care.

  15. I’ll stop lurking to admit that I voted here in the Evergreen State for McPalin. It was harder than I thought it would be; I guess I’m more of a yellow dog democrat than I thought. On the other hand, there was no way I was voting for Obama, and the other 5! choices didn’t appeal.

    My one word is also misogyny. I have been so appalled at it all, from what they did to Hillary to what they have done to Palin. And by they I think I mean… well, most everyone in a way. I mourn the loss of my naivete. To have friends I thought good feminists turn into Palin hating sexists before my eyes was stunning. I feel like an innocent in this respect, because it never even occurred to me that people supporting Hillary would turn around to attack Palin with the same crap they had decried when it was used against Clinton.

    I voted 30% solution down the line. When it was man against man I voted for the Democrat, generally. I respect and admire John McCain for his service, his stand against corruption, and I think he’ll be a decent Republican president. I really like Palin, although I do not agree with her on quite a few things. I worry about the economy, but don’t see that either candidate has a real answer. I want UHC. Like Myiq2xu said, I and my issues lost in this election back on June.

  16. Watching the morning news shows … i hope the polls released tomorrow morning show a big tightening, there’s not much happiness showing in Republican mudville …

  17. My word is Democracy as well. My vote was stolen , along with 18 million others . No one who is capable of that deserves to be in any office . We do need to clean up Washington.

    Also , Cher .. If Cher had not left Bono and wanted to do her own thing and have an acting career ;and just stayed home and did what Bono wanted her to do , all these silly woman would not want to be in office, and have equal pay and stuff .. so there !! CHER !!

  18. IronMan, I haven’t heard much in the mainstream media or even Drudge on the coal industry comment. Hopefully it will get picked up in the next 24 hours or it will fade away like everything else on Obama so far.

  19. Sima, congratulations. You’ve now joined the club of yellow dog Dems who voted for McPalin. It wasn’t so difficult for me. It was clear to me earlier this year that if Obama was the nominee that I’d be voting against him. I’m not the type of person to just sit at home in protest instead of not doing my part by voting against Obama.

  20. We might make it to 4 million hits by Tuesday!

  21. gregoryp – I could not agree more. As Hillary says, womens’ rights are human rights. The group that suffers from social injustice – poverty, lack of a social safety net, unjust drug laws – is always disproportionately female. Obama talks about slavery and reparations from more than 100 years ago, without mentioning the fact that women are still enslaved all over the world.

    In addition, women are 52% of the population. Just from a numbers perspective, it is ludicrous that the majority does not even have constitutional protection yet (i.e., the ERA). The Democratic Party has done nothing to make it happen in a very long time, either.

  22. gregoryp – I could not agree more. As Hillary says, womens’ rights are human rights. The group that suffers from social injustice – poverty, lack of a social safety net, unjust drug laws – is always disproportionately female. Obama talks about slavery and reparations from more than 100 years ago, without mentioning the fact that women are still enslaved all over the world.

    In addition, women are 52% of the population. Just from a numbers perspective, it is ludicrous that the majority does not even have constitutional protection yet (i.e., the ERA). The Democratic Party has done nothing to make it happen in a very long time, either.

  23. Must go make some brunch. Myiq, will you mind the bridge and make sure no tr0lls take refuge underneath it?

    PUMA UP EVERYONE!!! :evil:

  24. I completely agree with madamab’s post. She outlines my reasons for my vote more eloquently than I could.

    Do I believe that McCain is only pandering? No. He has more women currently working for him than Obama, and these were in place at the beginning of the campaign.

    I need to add one second and equally important reason for my vote: complete and total lack of integrity and respect for human rights on the part of Obama and the Obama campaign. The actions tolerated and perpetrated by this campaign are inexcusable and illegal and not worty of a campaign run by the Democratic party.

    My state will probably go blue, it is after all Illinois. But who knows, my vote may be the one to make a difference. My vote will go to McCain Palin and my down ticket votes will depend on the platform and integrity of each individual candidate. Those with endorsements have gotten a second review from me.

    My guide is the 30% solution unless the candidate is known to be corrupt, has supported the DNC fiasco, or has a platform which does not benefit the constituency.

  25. DisenfranchisedVoter –

    it will take a few hours. The video with the audio was just posted a few houes ago.

    It’s like the Breaking News on Obama’s spread the wealth comments in Chicago radio interview. It took a few hours before the likes of FOX and Drudge picked it up. But this will hurt Obama in states like Pennsylvania.

    It’s on MANY of the blogs and spreading liek wildfire this morning. By this evening, I expect the media to be running with it. By tomorrow, the audio will be playing on FOX and it will sink Obama in coal rich states like PA and Virginia.

    Here’s a link to a LARGE list of media contacts in Pennsylvania, email addresses, phone numbers, etc.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358×2275

    Some of the top coal producing states:

    Pennsylvania
    Virginia
    Colorado
    Wyoming
    West Virginia
    Kentucky
    Texas
    Montana
    Indiana
    Illinois
    North Dakota

    Wonder what the voters in coal rich states like Pennsylvania will think about Obama’s desire to rape their state by bankrupting the coal industry?

  26. My word: Corruption. I think Obama and his cronies among the Democratic rank and file are every bit as bad as anything Dick Cheney ever thought up.

    I already early voted – I live in a lurid red state that’ll go for McCain no matter what, so I wrote in Hillary. For three separate offices, since corrupt good-old-boys were running in a couple others on my ballot as well.

    GO PUMA!

  27. In answer to inquiry of your excellent post, on Tuesday
    I am voting for McCain.

    Reason why in one word: I’m anti-demagogue.

  28. I gotta tell you guys, i am confident now after the last set of polling that McCain can pull this off, and in the states that matter this election.

    My concern is the MSM, they have a tendency to jump the gun. I am concern that they will declare Obama the winner, while voting is still going on and therefore people in the states that are still voting will not show up to the polls.

    Any thoughts on that, I haven’t heard that discussed.

  29. looking for integrity: I think McCain wants this presidency bad enough that he will fulfill the promises he made on his flyers to Clinton supporters. Obama believes that he will win so he doesn’t even feel the need to pander to us anymore nor has he ever done so. After “winning” the nomination, he sent Hillary Clinton out to court us. He’s never wanted to actually talk to us. I know he looks down on many Clinton supporters who are not on the same level as the wealthy, educated Obamacrats.

  30. Ana, I’m worried about the media on election night as well. They screwed over Al Gore and we all know they are about to wet themselves to be the first one to declare Obama president. I don’t know what I’ll be doing election night but I’ll probably be at home or on this site.

  31. My word is “disgust”- with the corruption, lies, deception, misinformation, the media, all of the politicions I once had respect for, and a populace that needs to pay better attention. And with that word, I turn to McCain, whom I like more and more each day. It helps that he has the same twinkle in his eye as my dearly departed daddy.

  32. WELL SAID. Misogyny and corruption. Abstaining at all levels.

  33. “Obama loves the future so much because that’s where all his accomplishments are…”

    LMAO

  34. DV-

    I agree.

  35. this is great song WOOHOOO
    WORKIN IN A COAL MINE
    go there and play a clip from the CD

    http://cdbaby.com/cd/acadiana I will be playing this whole song today
    plus some other COAL SONGS !!

    http://www.cygnusradio.com

  36. “For this was the year my eyes were opened to the deep-seated misogyny within the Democratic Party… ”

    You are not alone. That party no longer speaks for me.

    I am voting for McCain/Palin. The one word that comes to mind in how I made my decision this year is “daughters”.

    This is NOT how it should be for my daughters.I will not stand for this and hopefully neither will any of you.

  37. Hear, hear!

    (Great post.)

  38. Lifelong proudly left-wing liberal Democrat voting for McCain-Palin, also with pride, my first ever vote for a Republican Presidential candidate. I’ll vote downticket Dems and hope we achieve a balanced government.

    There isn’t just one reason for me. These things stand out in my mind, as everything piled up and I became more and more outraged by the media, the Democratic Party and their candidate Obama:

    The misogyny
    The childish, sexist, hypocritical behavior of Obama – starting perhaps with the snub at the SOTU — and the childish, sexist and boorish behavior of his supporters
    The race-baiting
    The complicity of the media, including it’s refusal to even report on the “unusual” roll call vote
    The RBC meeting
    The issues — no UHC, FISA, Cheney energy bill

    I too am astonished by the sexist venom directed by feminists I have admired at the “stupid” woman who managed, without connections, to be elected Governor of Alaska, and has an extremely high approval rating. The power of a role model for young women cannot be underestimated.

    And speaking of role models, I never hear anyone talk about what a great role model Todd Palin, supportive husband, responsible father, will be for America’s young men!

    Sarah and Todd Palin seem to be living, breathing embodiments of basic feminist principles!

    Sorry for the long post; it’s weeks of reading and not posting all coming out at once!

  39. Has everyone seen the great Violet Socks’ last post on who is going to be named to Obama’s cabinet?

    Three words:

    O.

    M.

    G.

    Link

  40. DisenfranchisedVoter, on November 2nd, 2008 at 12:39 pm Said:
    IronMan, I haven’t heard much in the mainstream media or even Drudge on the coal industry comment. Hopefully it will get picked up in the next 24 hours or it will fade away like everything else on Obama so far.
    ********************************************

    It’s now on Drudge:

    http://drudgereport.com/

  41. REMEMBER BIG BROWN

    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/09/sports/RAC-Belmont-Stakes.php

    Earlier this year the greatest thoroughbred ever created by GOD; a creature that personified perfection, that could not loose, lost the biggest race of his life.

    How did that happen?

    The inevitable is not is not inevitable.

  42. “Betrayal” is the word that sums it up for me.

  43. madamab:

    That list isn’t exactly a liberal wet-dream, is it?

  44. The Drudgereport now has the COAL story!

  45. Okay, after all that, I came up with one word: incredulity.

    I had to look on thesaurus.com for that — I want to convey disbelief, shock and dismay at all the behaviors I addressed above and that posters here discuss every day.

  46. …And by the way, this prgressive-feminist who has been a loyal DEM for 35 years is voting McCain /Palin.
    I’m honored to be a PUMA.

  47. My word is conscience. I cannot in good conscience vote for either ticket so I’ll be voting Ralph Nader for the first time.

    Mountain Sage

  48. Obama must lose on Tuesday. If he does, there will be a chance to take the Democratic party back from his cult and reform it. If he wins, the cult and its tactics will solidify their grip on the party irrevocably. In that scenario, the only meaningful role for the PUMA movement would be to join the Republican coalition permanently and try to become a moderating influence there. I’d rather get the Democratic party back.

    McCain deserves to win. He’s made meaningful promises. He’s chosen Palin. He has the experience and integrity Obama lacks. Since we can’t have Hillary, McCain is the better man for the job.

    I’ve been convinced since June that McCain will win, and I still think so:

    http://infidel753.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-i-still-think-mccain-will-win.html

    If you live in a non-swing state, your vote is still important. Yes, the Electoral College will decide who becomes President, but the popular-vote margin — to which voters in every state contribute — will affect the perceived legitimacy of the outcome. If Obama loses, then the bigger the popular-vote margin, the better — to drive home the reality that the loss was due to a flawed candidate and strategy rather than to a 2000-style fluke, and to hasten the realization of the need for reform.

  49. My word is duty.

    If I had my druthers I’d write-in Hillary or vote for McKinney. But I have to stand up against the fraud and the misogyny that ObamaNation has perpetrated for this entire election. Hate and theft can not be allowed to prevail.

  50. Hey Ya-all, I Marked McCain/Palin for Pres and used the 30% rule when voting for other candidates. Yup Felt a little badly just in case any of those men may have been better. It was my Power vote. Misogyny, to sum it up seems to shed it’s big bold light on the Power situation.

  51. bill richardson is the biggest weasel ever. I can’t imagine him in any post. it makes me ill…and I’d forgotten about his gay=choice bs…what a dick.

  52. Thank you for this post, madamab.

  53. My vote was a Ca. Mail-in and I hear McCain is running with in ONE POINT of Headliner ov Ca.!!

  54. ana – I think that you are correct that the MSM is going to attempt voter suppression… they have already been working it on the angle that if McCain doesn’t win PA its all over…. they are wanting to call this by 8pm eastern time. let me tell you as a virginian –its going to be down to the wire in this state and will NOT be easy to call right away.

  55. Madamab! GREAT post.

    I can’t choose just one word. Here are mine:

    Viciousness. Lies. Corruption. Misogyny.

    It’s been like chewing off an arm to save myself and others, but I am voting MCPALIN. Without hesitation and I hope, no regret.

  56. and for those who are in swing states –if you are truly against Obama, please please please consider either voting for McPalin OR trading your vote with someone in another state thats not on the edge (ie. they vote 3rd party for you, you help Mac in your state)

  57. I have 2 words – misogyny & opportunists

    I have said over and over – the ranting / mocking of Hillary at the Trinity Church and NO ONE stood up for her — FUCK OBAMA AND THE DNC

    the word opportunists — that’s exactly what he is –

  58. gary,
    What was the gay=choice thing about?

  59. yay joaniebone ~ must be the weekend! good to see ya!

  60. Since I live in Illinois and know the Chicago mob will make sure he wins the state, this woman is voting for the female on the ticket….CYNTHIA McKINNEY. and I’m doing it for HILLARY.

    “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women.” Madeleine Albright

    If I lived in a swing state, I would be voting for McCain/PALIN.

  61. madamab, on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:14 pm Said:

    What I find even more infuriating than the folks listed in Violet Socks’ post is the incredible number of people from the Clinton camp who are supposed on all sorts of short lists, most probably because John Podesta – President Clinton’s former chief of staff – is Obama’s transition team leader. I like some of these folks but if we were going to end up with a government of people whose careers and ideas were fostered by Senator Clinton as well as President Clinton why in the world could we not have had as the Chief Executive Senator Clinton herself? (Well, I know why but you see what I mean…).

  62. my word .. Bamboozlement

    at every level on every issue . ..

  63. my one word is – sinister – this has felt EVIL since the beginning and believe you me I am not a religious person… but I posted earlier that I find myself PRAYING and that is not a usual occurrence for me. I am doing it without even thinking about it spontaneously throughout the day….. I have to believe I HAVE lost my sanity!

  64. Joaniebone:

    I can think of a bunch of others. Thses were some of the ones I didn’t choose:

    Honor, experience, principles, integrity, shame.

    Obama has none of those

  65. Restricting my voting strategy to one word is frustrating, because there’s so many reasons to oppose Obama, but I would have to also go with misogyny.

    Under that umbrella of misogyny is class warfare [Sarah is trailer trash] and race-baiting [Hillary is a rac*st], and let’s not forget corruption. Without that, we wouldn’t even be looking at Obama in this election. And none of this could have happened without the obliging media.

    This morning, the media rush to install Obama is a stampede. Clarence Page, Ellen Goodman, cartoonists, multiple feeds from the AP. Blacks worry about voting fraud from the Repubs, and fear yet another staggering disappointment due to rac*sm. That damn Sunday supplement Parade’s top story is a quick comparison of Obama/McCain policies, with a Bottom Line for each policy. Guess who the author is?
    Jonathan ‘Obama Shrill Shill’ Alter!

  66. silverlake, I was reading the comments at the violet socks post that madamab linked to….she says that he is being considered for Sec fo State under obama…..myiq reminded me of the when he called being gay a choice…it was in a debate I think, then when Melissa Ethridge asked him about it at the gay debate he stood by it…I think that’s what happened

  67. I am the grandaughter of the Pennsylvania Italian Immigrant COAL MINER .who raised 12 children .
    ..bo is a foaming at the mouth rabid idiot , and I hope every Coal State , and every state that benefits from those states turns deep RED …because he will not just bankrupt the coal industry he will bankrupt this country .
    I listened to that tape and the satisfaction and kind of vengeful smugly moralistic and self-righteous TONE of his voice was sickening . He makes these sweeping statements without a grain of understanding of the conseuqences of what would happen were he to actually have the power to implement such plans . I hope this loses the election by a landslide for him !!!!

  68. My single word about my position on Obama?

    NO! (And yes, I am shouting!)

    If I could add one more word, it would be NEVER!

  69. indigogrrl,

    You have always voiced my opinion precisely. I have been praying too.. what is up? There is something VERY WRONG going on.

  70. “But I consider this election cycle a personal victory, and I hope you will too. For this was the year my eyes were opened to the deep-seated misogyny within the Democratic Party and our society in general. This was the year I discovered that the famous feminists of yesteryear have become a snotty, lazy bunch of enablers. This was the year I understood that my Party has been lying to me about how bad and evil Republicans are. This was the year I threw off my partisan blinders and elitism and understood that this is a beautiful country, made up of sincere people who are just trying to do the right thing for themselves. This was the year I discovered the words, “agree to disagree,” and found that they were good.”

    ——————–

    So well put. Thank you.

  71. I forgot to give my word:

    sadness

    A deep unabiding sadness.

  72. Thanks gary, yet another confirmation that he is a complete idiot.

  73. indigogrrl, it is great to see you!

    Always!!!

  74. !! Joaniebone is here!! I almost always miss you.

    saving my word for my post on the subject

  75. gary:

    It was the LGBT forum and Melissa E asked him twice because she thought he must have misunderstood the first time.

    He didn’t even have a persuasive explanation of his position. Why did he even bother to show up? That’s like going to the NAACP convention and saying blacks are inferior.

    His campaign tried to walk it back afterwards, but teh stupid had escaped.

  76. what is the 30% thing with respect to voting that I have seen in some of the posts here?

  77. indigogrrl,
    that is a brilliant idea at 1:30. Switching out votes so that those wishing to vote 3rd party do not dilute the force of our stand against Obama.

  78. MadamaB — Thank you for this wonderful post. I found myself nodding all the way through it.

    I hope this thought:

    This was the year I threw off my partisan blinders and elitism and understood that this is a beautiful country, made up of sincere people who are just trying to do the right thing for themselves. This was the year I discovered the words, “agree to disagree,” and found that they were good.

    Will give me the strength to get through the next few years no matter how this election turns out.

  79. McCain Palin vote here. I’ve come to terms with my vote. I spent yesterday talking to two die hard GOP folk in my neighborhood who have concluded I am “good people and a smart gal.” I was invited to come over after I voted to sit a spell and watch the numbers come in. I’m sure my McCain Palin sign has created some confusion to some since I have normally voted for the Dem. I have had to explain that the Democrats have squandered my support since 2006 so any coalition they have going forward will not include me, not as long as they think it is okay to ignore the will of the electorate.

  80. Heidi,

    This might cheer you up, my 2 daughters (ages 9 and 13) who I have always encouraged to be independant thinkers and not be swayed by parents or peers (and who both previously stated were “voting” obama) BOTH voted in mock elections in their schools and BOTH voted for McCain/Palin!
    My 9 year old said she wishes the choice was McCain/Biden as she is not crazy about Palin and her wolf killings but she doesn’t think Obama has any experience. Even the fact that her best friend told her that McCain is for getting rid of candy didn’t sway her (she didn’t believe it). My 13 year old changed her mind at the last minute because she thinks maybe I am pretty smart and might know more than the kids in her school.
    So that’s 2 more votes for McCain. Their votes should count more than those dead people in Texas!

  81. My first word: misogyny.

    Two weeks ago, for the first time in my life, I voted for a Republican Presidential candidate. I bubbled in John McCain (paper ballot), then went for the Libertarians downticket, including the woman running for Senator.

    My second word: corruption.

    In 2004, I voted against every Republican on the ballot out of a deep anger at the corruption and ineptitude of the Bush regime. Not much changed this time, except that the anger is directed toward the Democratic Party as a whole–not just at Obama–because the misogyny and corruption are systemic. If the Democratic Party is ever to be a truly liberal organization again, it’s going to have to be reformed from top to bottom, and every last person complicit in the selection of Barack Obama over the legitimate candidate removed from office.

  82. I have just put this post (madamab’s) up at Real Clear Politics because I think it crucial for people to see what levelheaded liberals/progressives/Dems-formerDems think about this election. And because I admire the writing and tone of madamab’s latest effort.

    You can see the listing at RCP at http://readerarticles.realclearpolitics.com/?period=all and can vote for it if you care to. Just find in page “My Voting Strategy”

  83. okay, another word–STOP.

    “Obama must lose on Tuesday. If he does, there will be a chance to take the Democratic party back from his cult and reform it. If he wins, the cult and its tactics will solidify their grip on the party irrevocably.”

    yes infidel753, he must be stopped.

    myiq, there are so many words–the list could go forever.. And for me, there have been so many tears. Yes Heidi, SADNESS

  84. Heidi Li, 1:39 pm Said:

    I forgot to give my word:

    sadness

    A deep unabiding sadness.

    **********

    Ah, that resonates. I am so glad that you can be courageous and take action while experiencing such sorrow. I’m still digesting your latest post: “Historical precedent for a new wave of empowerment for those left hungry for it by this election season”

  85. ainnj, on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:47 pm Said:

    Love it!

  86. I voted at RCP Heidi, look up thread a bit for a post to you from me.

  87. Looking: I met a man a month ago from Illinois at the airport, I had on my Palin t-shirt, he said great shirt, I’m voting for her too, unfortunately, I’m from Illinois and I’m sorry, but my vote won’t count. I completely disagree. I was one of 18% of voters who voted for Ross Perot and that put Bill Clinton over the top to beat GWB Sr. I never regretted that vote, and I learned that my one little vote can make a difference when it’s combined with a whole lot of other people who think their vote doesn’t matter.

    Madamab: Great post. My word is “choice.” I have the choice to cast my vote for whomever I believe is the right man or woman for the jobs of POTUS, Congress or Senate. I also have the choice to cast my vote against the person who disappointed me (Sr. , Jr., and my Congressman). I have the choice to at least try to make a difference.

    I may be a moderate Republican, but I believe I am also a PUMA. Therefore, I will choose to always exercise choice.

  88. katiebird: “I almost always miss you”

    you mean you don’t always miss me? I always miss you!! (teasing)

  89. The thing is, the breaking news on Obama about his desire to bankrupt the coal industry is like a direct stab in the heart to Pennsylvania. It will INCREASE the intensity of opposition to Obama big time and drive turnout for McCain-Palin to the polls. That is a difference maker in a key state like PA, Virginia also.

  90. I have e-mailed the coal comments in SF to Steve Corbett, the turndown man in Wilkes Barre, and am seeking UMWA e-mail to forward to them. Someone upthread said coal miners probably weren’t voting for bambi anyway, but I am in middle of soft coal county and the UMWA, District 2 called me to urge support for bambi. As my f-i-l was miner for 52 yrs as well as local secretary, I did not unload with my real opinions……..these folks don’t need that…….but did let them know I could not vote for BO. I hope everyone tries to get this You Tube out as it may help in PA, esp northeast and southwest(coal mining areas).
    Many comments mentioned eyes being opened this year and I agree. The party and the selection of bambi hs been despicable and, frankly, I may never get over it. I had given monthly to the party for years, made calls manytimes, posted yard signs, talked to friends/neighbors, etc. Always was willing to give a little more when DNC, DSCC, and DCCC called. That is over for good and I will never feel quite the same as I did for 30+ years. My vote wasn’t counted, the party kicked me to the curb and nominated a shifty, vulgarity using, misogynistic sham of a candidate. Hate to think it but I may be on the way to the GOP. Will wait till election to see if anything about the Dems is saveable. Sorry for long rant. Puma in PA

  91. purplefinn, on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:48 pm Said:
    “I am so glad that you can be courageous and take action while experiencing such sorrow:”

    Thank you, friend. From deep within, I thank you. You, and many other people here and people who read or comment at Potpourri, sustain me.

  92. My ex-girlfriend still misses me.

    Unfortunately, her aim is improving.

  93. Facebook may have reinstated Will, but seems to be working down the PUMA list –

    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/facebook-still-eliminating-puma-accounts-for-no-reasons/

  94. joaniebone,

    I like stop. It makes me think of
    the old website stop-obama. It was one of the best IMHO this season. The writing was often brilliant and often very funny. They really took swear words to new heights…. which I very much appreciated since it appears that swearing might have been created with the sole intent of giving us a way to describe Obama and his antics.

    So thank you Stop-Obama people and thank you Conflucians for your islands of sanity, inspiration and humor during a very, very difficult time.

  95. “My Voting Strategy” has four votes at Real Clear Politcs. 6 more and it stays up for ten days.

  96. I gave it my vote, Heidi!

  97. My word is fraud.

    I voted early on Thursday for McPalin. I voted downticket for the few Democrats on the ballot. Here in Georgia, many Republicans were running unopposed. I left those blank. On the non-partisan election I voted for the woman.

    As I drove away I was so upset that I was cheated out of my chance to vote for Hillary, that it took me a few minutes to realize that I had just voted for a woman for VP! That made me feel a little better. My part (at least for now) is done.

  98. aiinj:I saw the post about your two daughters. It made me smile. As the mother of a 13 year old you should be especially proud that she decided you just might be smarter than the kids in her class – not many girls her age have the independence of mind to reach that conclusion about their mothers.

  99. There are many words I could and would choose – but I think I’ll go for Chicago.

    This is one of the most corrupt cities in America and all of the dem politicians in this state drank the kool-aid years ago and have tirelessly worked since then to put BO’s lying, cheating, corrupt, cover-up master butt into our highest office and it’s just plain wrong.

    I will be proudly voting Tuesday morning for McCain/Palin. I wish I could support the 30% solution but the dems just couldn’t put up any women who deserve my vote.

  100. Obama is a mysoginist and well proved it with his attacks on Hillary Clinton and now Sarah Palin. MARK MY WORDS that he will DIMINISH women as he has done all of his life. Obama and his radical connections are a THREAT to all women in America.

    PLEASE JOIN US ON TUESDAY AND GIVE YOUR VOTE TO JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN!!!

    WE NEED YOUR VOTE!!!

  101. NV Swing Voter, on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:50 pm Said:
    “I may be a moderate Republican, but I believe I am also a PUMA. Therefore, I will choose to always exercise choice.”

    You most definitely are a PUMA, friend. The defining characteristic of a PUMA is a refusal to deal in blind unity. You are willing to think for yourself and not simply toe a party line or vote because of a label. That’s being not only a PUMA but a true small-d democrat, in my opinion.

  102. Nobody’s calling my state, NJ, a battleground or swing state (except my fellow New Jerseyan Riverdaughter).

    But I do want to hear those words: NJ – too close to call! So I am going to vote McCain/Palin on top and Dems on the bottom.

    For months I have been saying here and in the BTR chats that I want revenge and almost used that as my word, but actually it is not.

    My word is “justice” – I want justice, for my stolen vote and the other 18 million that were reassigned without a how-do-you-do.

    I want justice for my stolen vote, for yours, for the stolen nomination, for the country that was cheated out of the best candidate hands down, and for Hillary.

    God, I love that woman!

  103. IronMan, on November 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pm Said:

    Obama will not win Pennsylvania, Ohio, or Virginia!

    The Breaking News on the audio of Obama talking in San Fran about his desire to bankrupt the coal industry is spreading like wildfire this morning. Won’t be long before it goes nationwide.
    ***
    Naked Emperor News on youtube is now the most viewed channel…

    http://www.youtube.com/user/NakedEmperorNews

  104. Living in Eastern Kentucky, I would love to end coal mining, but I feel that way about a lot of ugly industries, like chemical plants, oil production, stone quarries, natural gas, logging, and we have those, too. The late author Harry Caudill [Night Comes to the Cumberlands] said coal curses every area in which it’s found [he included places like Wales]. Ky is incredibly rich in natural resources, and as long as there is a need for the resources, and money to be made [oh, there's a lot of money in it, some of it foreign], there will be mining.

    In a more reaslistic light, the coal industry is a lot more than mining. Virtually every family member is involved in some aspect of coal – mining itself, an accountant, truck driving, railroads that haul coal, tow boats that haul it on rivers, the electric companies that use it to produce energy for huge portions of the country, heck, even Lex/Lou is full of people that indirectly make their living from it.

    Until we have other sources, our best hope is more environmentally friendly production. Last week, I wrote that Obama hasn’t denounced mountain-top removal, at least not here in KY, and one of his most outspoken supporters – our LtGov – wants to expand it. McCain wants to end it, and I agree. LIke everything else, I don’t believe anything, not a single word, that comes out of Obama’s mouth. He talked about bankrupting coal to his liberal friends in SF, talks a different game here. It would be beautiful karma if he intends to ramp up coal production, but gets nailed for sucking up to his liberal donors.

  105. “Winner” is the word I am calling anyone who stops griping about being what they perceived the word “Democrat” to mean – it is obviously just a word that doesn’t mean what you think it means.

    “Winner” is the word I am calling anyone that realizes that John McCain took the courage to ask the disenfranchised Hillary Supporters what they wanted and what they needed to bring us on board with him. Then, despite all of the criticism, he has done his best to deliver.

    “Winner” is the person who stops playing games with who they are going to vote for with their threats of voting “PRESENT”.

    This is WAR! We don’t have time for panty wastes to sit on the side lines.

    My nephew is in Iraq, Kim’s son is in Iraq, 200k others are in Iraq and Afghanistan. Millions more need their families to get the care they need for years they have spent in combat. I want them home safely and their experience that they gave to us to mean something positive for the world.

    I am 57 years old and my 401k is worth 48% less in the last 12 months.

    Jobs are on the line, families are on the line, and countries are waiting to attack us and our allies again.

    So, stop the gripping because you perceive John and Sarah not to be perfect for your specific agenda. They are our best choice, and I think they are an “Excellent Choice”.

    SMILE, VOTE, BE PREPARED TO BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED! Good and decent people will do their best, and I can’t think of any more good and decent people than John McCain, Cindy McCain, Sarah Palin, Todd Palin and their Children fighting for this country.

    CAROL HAKA :evil:

  106. My republican husband is convinced there is a “silent majority” out there that will be speaking up on Tues. and voting for McCain/Palin. He thinks in this political climate people are afraid to even say they are not voting for Obama.
    I think some people are afraid but I don’t think there is that many to put McCain over the top but for the first time ever :) maybe he is right and I am wrong, I hope so.

  107. angelasmith – hiya … I didn’t think of that strategy of switching votes …I read about it here from 2 other posters that are doing just that! I am rarely brilliant!

    joaniebone — what am I going to do about the prayin’ thang …next thing you know I’m gonna buy a gun and move to PA where my clingin’ ways will be acceptable. Seriously though I am worried about myself and my reaction to this whole election… people who I used to think were nuts are starting to make sense (hannity comes to mind)…… if this praying thing works out I may start doing it for other stuff!

  108. Heidi…you have 6 votes now…I’m hoping there will be more! (Thank you for the link…after I registered I made sure to use my vote there also!)

    As for one word, I haven’t found the correct one yet. The closest I have come is passion…my husband wonders why this election means so much to me. I can’t stand the injustices which have occurred, nor the cheating…

  109. Here in California there is something weird going on.

    Obama is supposed to have a big lead, but Prop. 8 (the anti-gay marriage initiative) looks like it might pass.

    So either lots of bigots are voting for Obama, or his lead isn’t a big as they claim.

    Either explanation is believable.

  110. still4hill, on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:59 pm Said:
    Nobody’s calling my state, NJ, a battleground or swing state (except my fellow New Jerseyan Riverdaughter).

    But I do want to hear those words: NJ – too close to call! So I am going to vote McCain/Palin on top and Dems on the bottom.
    *********************************************

    I’m a New Jerseyan and voting McCain/Palin on top. However, my anger at the democratic party has become so great that I don’t think I can even vote them downticket, regardless of their gender.

  111. I think it is the idea that is Obama wins, then the conduct of his campaign and his vicious supporters will be seen as the “winning strategy” for the Dems that has given me the strength and resolve to do what it takes. Whatever it takes. And boy, sometimes its been hard.

    I have been in bed with Reublicans this year. I have. I have forwarded every negative link about BO that I could to a few republican contacts that I knew would spread them everywhere. At times, I have felt that I needed to bathe afterward.

    Now, hear me out:

    There are some wonderful republicans that I have bonded with and discovered that we think alike on most issues. That has been incredible and great to discover. I’ll never forget it.

    But other times, as a result of my doings, I have received things in my inbox that I never wanted to see or have anything to do with. Mailings that use the word “liberal” as an insult–sent to me because they think I agree.

    Yes, I have chewed off an arm.

    Maybe that’s why I’ve been praying. It feels unholy. But I have no regret. I have been prepared to do whatever it takes to get the votes to defeat this guy.

    Thanks to this wonderful home, I still have a political identity–PUMA

  112. IBD/Tipp poll is the one I have heard we are supposed to look at. Been the most accurate throughout the years.

    O:46.7

    Mc:44.6

    Undec: 8.7%

  113. Wow, Amy, that’s remarkable about Facebook!

    My word is: “eye-opening.” (Is that two words?)

  114. music to my ears o powerful riverdauughter! we have the power, the stamina, & the voice all forged into action by this election cycle. your words are true and i’ll be listening in the days ahead. it’s all good!

  115. http://www.musicofcoal.com/

    I am NOT saying I dont want clean coal ; or that I dont want alternative sources of energy .
    I have been an outspoken proponent of alternative energy for 30 years , and watched as this issue has been ignored, and worse, circumvented in this country in the interests of corporate greed for decades ….. but to want to simply bankrupt an industry , without access to immediate alternative sources is simply puerile and idiotic .

    I think I am in rant mode…….

    GREAT POST !

  116. myiq2xu, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm Said:
    Here in California there is something weird going on.

    Obama is supposed to have a big lead, but Prop. 8 (the anti-gay marriage initiative) looks like it might pass.

    So either lots of bigots are voting for Obama, or his lead isn’t a big as they claim.

    Either explanation is believable.
    *********************************************

    I read that the African American voters and many Hispanic voters traditionally vote against same sex marriages and so they are voting for Prop 8 in CA. They are voting in much bigger numbers due to the GOTV drive by Obama. Isn’t it nice how he unites by making all factions work against each other.

  117. Beautifully stated. We need more women leaders.

  118. indigogrrl,
    lol.. if you are seldom brilliant, then you must be brilliant at times, ‘eh?

    That’s what brilliance is…. lighting up the sky
    foooshhhhh for a moment. That’s all anyone can ask.
    And I just sense you’ve got the bolt in you, girl.

  119. katiebird, on November 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 pm Said:
    Thanks.

    “My Voting Strategy” – this post, the one we are commenting on – now has 7 votes at Real Clear Politics. If it reaches 10 it stays up for 7 days. If it takes off and gets tons of votes it will get an hour on the front page of RCP and bring hundreds of new readers to this site.

    As I wrote in my summary on RCP, I think madamab’s words, and the comments on this thread, should be read by as many people as possible. So consider voting.

    From my earlier announcement:
    I have just put this post (madamab’s) up at Real Clear Politics because I think it crucial for people to see what levelheaded liberals/progressives/Dems-formerDems think about this election. And because I admire the writing and tone of madamab’s latest effort.

    You can see the listing at RCP at http://readerarticles.realclearpolitics.com/?period=all and can vote for it if you care to. Just find in page “My Voting Strategy”

  120. I just have a gut feeling that undecideds are really just undeclared …and that they are going to break for McCain….. if they were going to vote for Oblowme they would have jumped on the bandwagon so to speak when it was the cool thing to do…. plus I know that there are many of us out there that are going to go in and vote for Mcain Palin because its the right thing to do but I will never be able to publicly state that because of my family.

  121. My one word is “theft”–theft of my vote, theft of democracy, theft of the Democratic Party. I’m casting my Illinois vote on Tuesday for McCain, although I’ll vote for Dick Durbin, since he’s been one of the few reliably progressive senators left.

  122. DYB, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm Said:
    Hyphenated words are single words.

  123. Three votes needed on this post over at RealClear

    http://readerarticles.realclearpolitics.com/?period=all

  124. myiq2xu> There was a small article in the NY Times a while back that a large turnout for Obama in CA will likely lead to Proposition 8 passing because African-Americans tend to be very socially conservative. Obama has Kmiec campaigning for him out there. Conservative Republicans coming out to vote for McCain/Palin are likely to vote for it as well. That’s a bad combo when both sides want it to pass.

  125. grayslady, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:12 pm Said:

    Good to see you here – I feel like I haven’t in a while.

  126. Heidi Li, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:12 pm Said:
    DYB, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm Said:
    Hyphenated words are single words.
    ******************************

    Oh good then here is another one word for this election:

    BITE-ME-OBAMA!

  127. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

    MadamaB, brilliant. THANK YOU for your words.

    We cannot reward sexism and misogyny – EVER.

  128. joaniebone, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm Said

    What you describe is what is so horrible about what the DNC did. If they had resisted corruption and Senator Obama had become the candidate; if they had not been blatantly misogynistic, and yet Senator Obama had become the candidate…well, many of us would not have found ourselves working hard to see the defeat of Democratic nominee, even if he were not our first choice.

    Not that Senator Obama has made it any easier to support him: not only was he complicit in the corruption that prevented a free and fair roll call vote, I cannot for the life of me figure out what his actual positions are.

    Which makes me realize that there is another phrase that guides my voting strategy this year: “empty suit”

  129. ainnj:

    I think California will be closer than predicted. I don’t see Obama getting nearly as much of the Hispanic vote as they are predicting.

  130. By labeling Obama liberal, he has managed to garner votes that he doesn’t deserve – EcoVotes, gay Votes, feministVotes. He is no better than McCain on these issues, and in many ways much worse.

    But then, those liberals aren’t paying close attention this year. They like to think they’re well-informed, but they’re only well-informed in that they actively seek out information from sources who also support Obama. They’re heavy-feeders of pro-Obama news, which is virtually everyone.

  131. Heidi, stick a hyphen in there and you are all set :)

    Empty-Suit!!

  132. my word is ..

    patriots..and country

    my vote was for all the people in my family who fought , In WWI and WWII and Vietnam and sacrificed both their lives and health for my vote!

    That includes my Mother in law who was a Sargent in the WAC’s during WWII..and recieved many honors for her service..and was Honored in her passing..I am glad she can’t see this today!
    She was American Indian and left her reservation to serve this country.

    It also includes my Aunt ..who flew Air Force Planes across this great country of ours to get them to places they were needed for our Air Force to take them into combat zones..She was my inspiration to become a flight attendant of which I was for 33 years.

    Patriots… is for many of my co-workers who flew “transport” of wounded soldiers from Vietnam..and lived in horrible conditions ..to make sure our soldiers got home ..many severly wounded .

    Patriots is for many Airline Crews..both in the cockpit and cabin.. who have flown MAC Flights to get Americans out of harms way …everywhere in the world ..when they are needed ..for many times no pay ..and totally volunteer.

    And most of all the word ..Patriots… for my Co-workers who lost their lives on 9/11.

    I voted for National Security..

    I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin..

    The first time in my life I voted Republican.

    And I am damn proud of my vote!!

    Thank you to all the Patriots in this country ,that are standing for principles, and values and integrity.

    There are some things worth standing up for ..and I don’t think anyone has ever fought for this country for anything less than “our vote” and “democracy” that they truely loved and respected…enough to sacrifice their lives for.

  133. myiq2xu, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:17 pm Said:
    ainnj:

    I think California will be closer than predicted. I don’t see Obama getting nearly as much of the Hispanic vote as they are predicting.
    ************************************************

    I hope you are right although I know his campaign has been putting $$$$$$$ in getting the hispanic vote in California.

  134. I will never be able to publicly state that because of my family.

    indigogrrl,

    Its been bad enough that they know I won’t vote for BO! No one thinks I would actually vote for JohnnyMac and Sarah! (or do they??–I’ve been shunned by some already) Will you be my sister??

    Why am I reminded of that kids book about the baby bird that goes around saying “Are you my mother?” and everything (the cow etc..) says “I am not your mother” The baby bird even goes to a steamshovel thinking it’s it’s mother before finding it’s real mother.

    I have felt that lost sometimes. Honestly, I just don’t know what I would’ve done without having this home.

    I certainly would have chewed up ALL of katiebird’s cel phone minutes–thats for sure!

  135. ainnj – we cannot start corrupting the use of hyphens! (smile)

  136. and for crissakes when have those stupid polls been right this year??? I cannot believe that SUDDENLY they are going to be accurate…..

  137. myiq, my friend, my colleague, my respected compatriot, font of wisdom, wit and candor,fighter of the good fight, dreamer of the great dream,
    is there any hope that you might change (let me rephrase that) is there any possibility that you might choose a softer avatar? Perhaps a clown a bit less, oh I don’t know, intense?

  138. Heidi Li, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm Said:
    ainnj – we cannot start corrupting the use of hyphens! (smile)
    *******************************************

    spoil-sport!! :)

  139. democracy with a little d. I will vote for McCain/Palin in Maryland. The United States has had some good presidents, some bad presidents and some in the middle. The quality of the president does have real importance, but at the end of the day America is about democracy. Obama is where he is today because he usurped democracy and stole the nomination. A junta consisting of ACORN , the RBC, the DNC controlled by Pelosi and Dean, and the Super Delegates are poised to pulled off a coup d’etat. Every patriotic American must do all they can to stop them.

  140. I’m not sure why I am in moderation. Can someone please save me.

  141. joaniebone – I would love to be your sister! I have been truly grieving those who I have always admired…see, there are folks who I’ve looked up to that I can no longer because of their support of the Chosen One, or their denigrating words about HRC and/or Sarah Palin. So add another word to the list – GRIEF.

    This year has changed me in ways I never thought possible, and I won’t be the same. But I do know I have all of you and …whatever comes … I’ll meet y’all on the other side Wednesday.

  142. firelight2012, on November 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm Said:
    ainnj

    Here’s link to madamab’s post about the 30% solution
    *********************************************

    Thanks! Carolyn Maloney was my congresswoman when I lived in nyc.

  143. This was a great post and rings true for a lot of us. If you want to be really scared about feminism — and you made that point so well above – i just came from Reclusive Leftist — and she has made the MOST important piece, well they all were, but I never forget the one about the LEVER, but this one?

    Don’t let it happen because of the misogyny…wait till you see who the picks are…not pretty…

    I know that the PUMA voters like me have a hard time with Palin, well, we do…but, I won’t let her “rural” stance dissuade me — maybe she can learn things once she is exposed to America and America’s women as a whole…

    I read once about Cindy McC believing that Roe was a States issue, and believe it or not there are PRO-CHOICE Republican women as senators, my, my. There are also GAY Republicans! I couldn’t believe it when I saw that — I had to hunt but I saw it — so, it may well be that we as Dems don’t actually know who the Repubs are?

    I mean that. We weren’t them. We were us, but, Dems blew it on Hillary this year. Blew it. Sabotaged her. You have to read Violet today — don’t miss who is going to picked for O and you will see…prepare to be shocked — and I have RD to thank for introducing me to Violet in here — this is the voice of contemporary Second Wave women — feminists, when she speaks…

    So, I think McC could be 4 years, then Hillary?
    That would work for me! The other? Nope. Not after what they did to Hillary. Nope.

    Here is that link:

    http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2008/11/01/if-you-vote-for-obama-this-is-what-youre-voting-for-reminder-11/

  144. okie dokie you all have fun …I am taking the little ones bowling! tata until 2nite – {{{{{hugs}}}}}

  145. my word is “newbeginning.” ok, so it’s two words, but that’s what i hope for those of us that have been rejected by our party. woohooo.

  146. “Thank you to all the Patriots in this country ,that are standing for principles, and values and integrity.”

    Queenie–PATRIOTS–Yes!

    I still think of Myiq’s excellent July 4th post.

    I have never felt more like a patriot then this year.

  147. My word for this election has to be “PUMA.” I have learned more about my Democratic Party in the past 6 months than I ever knew before, and I am grieving. On a positive note, to have found so many other people who intuitively saw through Barack Obama from the beginning has been liberating and salvific.

    My wife, who I love dearly, will not listen any more. She can’t imagine not voting Democratic. She supported Hillary, but thinks she is being loyal to Hillary now in voting for Barry. I’m so sad to think that there are other good people out there who don’t seem to have the radar that lets them openly distrust Obama, despite such politically expected endorsements.

    OK, so I’m not perfect in my perceptions either, but I cannot imagine how someone of average or above intelligence can ignore all the evidence against BO. Thank God for PUMAs. Whatever the outcome of the election, the PUMA movement has initiated a transformation of political thinking in our country.

    It take’s me a while, sometimes, to see things, but it blatant appeal of Barack’s tax proposal that gives money to those who pay no income tax is aimed directly at his ethnic base, AA, Hispanic and disadvantaged whites who all struggle to make ends meet. And maybe that’s all it takes to get votes. Promise someone a check, and they will give you their vote.

    Thanks, Madamab. The play is the thing . . .

  148. A lesbian in San Francisco here. My former business partner was a republican. The 2000/2004 elections made for horendous tension in the office. He finally moved to WA and we ended the partnership. My new business partner is AA. He thinks the Clintons said racists things. He thinks Hillary tried to ‘steal’ Florida and disregard the “roolz”. He also reads the Atlantic and after reading the Clinton campaign memo leaks and interpretation of what they meant, he said that although she didn’t fully act on Mark Penn’s advice to paint Obama as anti-american, she did it in more subtle ways by playing up the middle class values angle. And the misogyny problem isn’t that bad to him. Racism is much much worse.
    Needless to say, living in san francisci, this election has been awful for me. Hatred and hypocrisy all around me. The irony is that I know understand how my former business partner probably felt. And i used to make snide jokes and comments to him about republicans. he was surrounded by us. I’m wondering if this is some kind of Karma for me. It really is awful.
    So who am i voting for? Part of me is actually AFRAID to vote for McCain. isn’t that weird? I’m having cognitive dissonace as well about it. I’m afraid the gov’t will come after me if obama wins and i’ve voted for mccain….yes, paranoid.
    I’ll know when i get in the booth. I’m definitely NOT VOTING FOR THE FRAUD.

  149. one word– spurious

    Voting McCain/Palin
    30%
    My congress rep is Wexler(D) he will not get my vote.
    Democrat if I can manage my disposition of “Mad as Hell and Not Going to Take it Anymore”.

  150. 11 votes on RealClear for this post. We did it!

  151. I reached out to the people on Murphy’s blog and “My Voting Strategy” now has 12 votes.

  152. Obama just introduced one of his supporters, former OH Senator John Glenn (D). He’s a perfect Obama supporter. Not only was he a much more active member of the Keating 5 than McCain was, as a young astronaut, Glenn testified in Congress that women should be eliminated from NASA’s astronaut program. They were. It was many years before women were brought back into the process.
    Blowing chow here.

  153. And – the post can now get its votes from those who will have a chance to read it before it would have gotten chased off the RCP reader submissions line-up.

  154. Madamab: That is a great phrase you have there, “……famous feminists of yesteryear have become a snotty, lazy bunch of enablers.”

    As a not-famous feminist of yesteryear, I love that. I’m disgusted with those feminists, and re-working my whole concept of feminism.

  155. BTW – new “Voting Strategy” post , my word is Democracy.

  156. TIPP: OBAMA 46.7%… MCCAIN 44.6%… NOT SURE 8.7%…

  157. Jean, as I recall, the reason McCain was reprimanded for Keating 5 is that Dems were furious about Glenn getting into trouble, and wanted to sacrifice a Repub. McCain’s role was minimal, but he still was ashamed and renounced his small role, citing it as a motivation for his campaign finance reform.

    Thanks to Obama, public campaign financing is dead. Wonder how Russ Feingold feels about this?

  158. Kudos to the poster last night who coined the term “Tokyo Rose” media. Made hubby and I laugh all night. We are easily amused. “Tokyo Rose” indeed!

  159. My word is “Richard Daley”, the one who sent the mysogenistic, shallow, corrupt and duplicitous
    Teleprompter Dude and his charming bride.

  160. My second word is ..”WOMAN”

    I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR!!!!!!!!!

    I voted Republican down my entire Florida Ballot..to tear up the “NEW” democratic party that stole my vote and did not stand up for my vote..my vote that others sacrificed their lives for !

    Oh and p.s. I was an Elected Dem Delegate in 2004 for Florida!..they not only stole my vote for the Primary..but this “NEW” democratic party stole our votes and representation at the convention..it wasn’t “only” my state that lost our votes..So did Michigan , NJ and California..and other states as well!

    You can not steal my vote in the Primary then get it in the General Election!

    NOBAMA! ever!

    No Donna Brazile , No Howard Dean, No Pelosi, No Reid.

    Oh and I also worked in Iowa as a Co-Captain of a large caucus for Edwards..and saw the cheating first hand..

    I also worked on the ground in SC for Edwards..and i think he is a coward that he stood with Obama and not Hillary!

    He knew the cheating that went on and so did his Campaign people!

    They all make me sick!

  161. I didn’t know it was Glenn who wanted women out of NASA. Wow. What a jerk!

  162. ps: re that coal? Check out his little flyer I found in May — when our Hillary was still in the game……..

    (I have no respect for Gore anymore but I did then) — check out what O was doing….got the barge picks to prove it— and for us CA Dems? The plastic BAGS he uses too—-

    PICS!

    He is NOT and environmentalist, not GREEN on energy, not progressive AT ALL. That is why ages ago, I was like, no way….on O.

    haha! all my research is coming in handy now! hahahahahahaha!

    hugs to all my pals!

    wait till you see these pics……… GGGGRRRRRRRRRRR!
    and a big paw print!

    http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/obama-vs-hillary-clinton-on-coal-who-is-greener-al-gore-please-help-hillary/

  163. “My word is Democracy. The thought of forever ceding the value of my vote is not acceptable. Allowing the DNC’s actions to bear fruit would have that affect.

    ***********
    Ditto!

    From reading madamab’s post and the comments, I have discovered something that Obama stands for (besides himself) – misogyny. He leans left like his mother, but chooses male influences to guide him. Then he veers from that path when there are bigger fish to fry – the presidency. All the while taking care not to align too closely to females. I think he’s still looking for daddy and mad at mommy.

  164. My prevailing thought is the confirmation that in our soceity men are deemed so much more valuable than women. What I can’t forget is how the Dems/media/BO&co were screaming that Hillary was hurting BO and his chances. Where was the outcry that BO was hurting Hillary’s chances?

  165. This has been a very moving time here today. Thank you again, Madamab.

    I have a days worth of work “at home” today. I will check-in later tonight.

    Goodbye, PUMA family.

  166. All of your comments have inspired me and choosing one word is difficult…I think Indigogrrl used Evil, and I think that one encompasses all the things that are wrong, and why this whole experience has been so wrenching for those of us who have been able to see what is happening, if not fully understanding why or to what extent…I have felt for the longest time that thiere is something large and ugly that is brooding over this election, and that it would frighten us all to death if we could see its true dimensions. Its upsetting enough to think it is one grubby guy’s campaign and ambition that is leading the party down the wrong path, but it is increasingly likely, that it is somethilng much more sinister, something much less random, or “unfortunate”, that we thought.

    Many people have referred to having their eyes opened, and I think that is the single best thing that has come from this. The fact that we are now able to see that we have been victims of propaganda for longer than we imagined, that we have been made to distrust people who are simply other good people trying to do their best for our country…as long as we are afraid of the other, we might not notice that there is this large looming evil taking our country away from us.

    I feel betrayed, saddened, vulnerable in a way I haven’t in the past, and worried. BUT, I know that I am not alone, and that has meant so much to me, as it has to all of you. If I was out there thinking I was alone seeing this, and feeling this, it might become unbearably frightening. Thank you to everyone here for your thoughts, your humor, your compassion and your devotion to our country regardless of political affiliation.

    This newly minted “unaffiliated” voter will be proudly casting her vote for McPalin on Tuesday in the great state of Pennsylvania.

  167. I am about to get to work on all the work that is piling up, but before I hop off – 16 votes for “My Voting Strategy” – you can keep an eye on the votes at http://readerarticles.realclearpolitics.com/?period=main

    Also, $410 has come in for The Denver Group/Democrats For Principle Before Party – for fuller information on the status of the enterprise please seehttp://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/11/a-reminder-of-our-mission-and-what-is-left-to-be-done-before-november-4.html

    As noted there, if 500 people donate $5 apiece we will hit our dream goal of $20,000 AND be able to readily run ads on election day.

  168. My word is “Hillary”

    And the reason for that is every single thing her run represented, and every single thing they did to cheat her of the nomination and cheated all of us at the same time. All the hatred that was used on purpose to destroy her. All the hatred that was used on purpose against us, that WILL have real life consequences for years to come. Rubber stamping misogyny at that level and volume is going to cause suffering these idiots either do not care about or don’t know enough about to care. Either way I hold them accountable. Bystanders, YOU are accountable too.

    Hillary, because my grandmother loved her and when I cast my vote for her I took those dreams with me. I expected my vote to be counted fairly and it was not. This is a disgustingly un democratic thing to do to anyone but, to do it at a time in our history such as this is unforgivable.

    Hillary because I have followed her career since the time she worked in Little Rock. She inspired my step mother who grew up very poor to reach higher. She was a first grade teacher in a very poor inner city school in those days…she became a university professor of education. And well known and well respected one at that.

    Hillary because for decades she has stood strong for women and children. She won this “fair and square’ and WE had it stolen away after a fraudulent primary season the likes of which any banana republic can be proud of.

    I’m never going back to the un democratic party. From now on I will seek to create a thirty percent solution.

    This year, I voted McCain/Palin on the top of the ticket and down ticket to my delight all the green party candidates were women so I voted them all. I didn’t have to select one single male down ticket. That felt fantastic. Obama is not “change” I have had to vote for male presidents my entire life and he’s just more of the same. Only worse because he ran a backward testosterone fueled campaign that attempted to blast women back to the stone age and he’s still at it.

    A vote represents a voice. Everyone is supposed to have one in the Untied States. It’s the only thing that sets up apart and the only thing that really unifies us. When you steal people’s votes, you silence them. I will NOT be silenced.

    Hillary because stealing something as sacred as a vote and the voice of the people is NEVER going to be forgotten. Her run is going to be written down in history and part of that history will be Obama’s disgrace.

    Her run wasn’t just about HER, it was about all of us men and women out here who deserved a fair election and for the person who best represented the will of the people to go forward to the lead this country.

    Obama just keeps insulting us, Larry Summers? Obama?!!!

    They need to get out of our way. PUMAS are blazing a path. For me justice starts with my vote this year, and Hillary was the spark that lit the fire underneath me. Everything we fought for, everything we WILL WIN for our future.

  169. SM has a NEW POST UP!

    But I want to thank Heidi Li for putting my post up on RCP, and everyone else for voting for it. Wow! That’s too exciting!
    :-)

  170. My word is Democracy too.

    I also wanted to vote for as many women as possible…however, I ended up voting downticket republican except for one woman state representative. I even voted against Christine Gregoire for governor as she had come out for BO in February.

    So, yesterday, I saw two guys at a busy intersection a few blocks from my house, holding Obama signs…and the only other sign they had was for the one democratic party woman I voted for for state representative! They didn’t even have a sign for Gregoire.

  171. I voted full 30 percent solution, starting with Sarah Palin. (Anyone making 30-percent solution buttons yet? )

    The 30-percent solution piece and Tomato Nation’s “Yes You Are” piece hit my eyeballs at the same time on Reclusive Leftist last month, and they together are now the basis of my political stance.

    Link to “Yes You Are”:

    http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2008/09/20/how-did-we-go-from-tomato-nations-yes-you-are-to-this/

    Well, ‘yes you are’ was always my stance: I stepped up to help liberate us women as a heart surge, about all women, and I was not alone in this. It was an attitude of inclusion.

    Sharks rule in NYC, which is a major base for the women , the Official Feminists, now attempting to exclude Sarah Palin as hard and nasty as they can. Feels to me like the Official Feminists are worried about the lastingness of their “leadership” positions and power to exclude.

  172. @swanspirit ;) CHER!

  173. So many here have summarized the exact “words” to describe this election, but I want to add the word “accountability” to the list.

    I want these people held accountable for misogyny, betrayal, fraud, the whole shebang. Politicians must be made accountable for their gross misconduct, including voter disenfranchisement and invasion of privacy. If that means voting Republican, so be it. If that means voting against every incumbent, so be it.

  174. Empowerment…

    for women, and for voters.

  175. has anyone mentioned the word ‘hatred” yet?

    To me, Obama represents hatred. An elitist snob, he has been unable to hide his disdain for the working class.

    His treatment of women has been nothing short of vile.
    Remember “Periodically, when Hillary gets blue”… or, “You’re likeable enough, Hillary”, or when he called a reporter “Sweetie”?

    Many of Obama’s close associates have expressed deep seated hatred.

    Jeremiah Wright spews it, shouting “God Damn America”

    “Father” Phleger spewed it at Trinity Church, as he mocked Hillary (and all of those who supported her).

    Terrorists William Ayers, Bernadine Dorhn and the Weathermen expressed their hatred using violence and bombs intended to harm American citizens and government.

    Michelle Obama has expressed deep seated hatred on many occasions. The divisive remarks she has made while campaigning and in her thesis are telling and she must be prevented from representing this country as America’s first lady. She is a demon.

    The hatred of Obama, his wife, and his close associates
    will send me running to the polls on Tuesday to vote
    McCain/Palin.

    PUMA!

  176. dirty campaigning—–the smearing of the Clintons.
    I voted yesterday in Florida and it felt good to vote for McCain.

  177. There are some really great, intelligent insights here. I am a Republican woman (with more Libertarian leanings) and I am pro choice. But I came to terms with it long ago – that abortion rights cannot be the issue that controls my vote.

    Remember, the Democrat and Republican parties are only what their members make of them.

    Good luck reforming the DNC and I mean that most sincerely. Nothing there can appeal to me now, but good and bad ideas come from both sides. I would genuinely love to have a choice between two great parties.

  178. Madamab.

    For me it is MISOGYNY and VOTING RIGHTS!

    1) I have never in any election seen such MISOGYNY…ever, directed at both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin.

    2) One Person One Vote, Counting ALL the Votes, NEVER allowing CAUCUSES in primaries again, SOUND ELECTIONS, SOUND VOTER REGISTRATION and Transparency in The ELECTION PROCESS. A party should never take sides and allow the voters to decide via their votes.

  179. My word is RESPECT.

    Obama’s campaign has always flowed downward to the lowest level. Calling people “r@cists”, backtracking on policies, WORMing, WWTSBQ tactics, collusion with the press, telling voters Hillary was conceding, sexism, the timing of “endorsements”, the two-faced comments in SF about rural areas, “that’s not the (Wright/Rezko/Ayers/Meeks/Pfleger, etc.) I knew”, the fake convention vote. Obama doesn’t respect Real Democracy and certainly doesn’t respect the American people.

    John McCain is an honorable and decent man. He respects the American People and he loves this country. His record shows it. Obama’s doesn’t.

    I’m proudly voting McCain/Palin on Tuesday.

  180. My word is the “bird”.

    The list of epiphanies is but the long and sad but the defining moment for me, the day that I knew that I couldn’t vote for Obama, no matter what, was the day after the Philadelphia debate when a grown man, a man who was apiring to the presidency of this country, slyly flipped the bird at the woman who’d out-classed him with her intelligence and character the night before.

  181. Anyone know of the video of Obama saying he will return in four years and try again?

  182. Hi fellow Americans,

    I am a 50 yr old woman from GA, and a Republican. I read a lot of different political sites, and at one point was very demoralized about the way this election campaign is going. I was prepared to support Hillary if she won the presidency and try to remember to pray for all our leaders. I have to admit that it is hard for me to even think about Obama as president and I realize that is exactly what his campaign and the MSM want – me and others like me demoralized.

  183. “Woman Voter, on November 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm Said:

    Anyone know of the video of Obama saying he will return in four years and try again?”

    No, I don’t know of it but, if he thinks that’s going to happen, it’s just another of his narcissistic fantasies. By then the whole world will know what his campaign did here. He’s a disgrace to this country. Four years is a long time. I consider it my duty as an American for the truth about this FRAUD to be front and center news. In four years he will so disgraced he won’t even be able to THINK of running again.

  184. If I had to pick one word to describe how I will be voting Tuesday: it would be “WORTHY”…

    Although I may disagree with John McCain on certain issues; there is no question he is more deserving of being president than Obama.

    Obama is the most unknown, unvetted, untested, and unproven candidate for president in modern history, and it is just too much of a hurdle for me to jump over.

  185. Everyone please take a second to read and comment on this article in the conservative blog, Free Republic.

    They are asking if PUMA’s will stick to their word and they really will vote for MCCain or third party:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122383/posts

  186. My word is “agency.” Each woman has the right to define what feminism is in her circumstances. Feminism doesn’t work the same way in Tehran or Alaska as in Manhattan–let terminal Manhattanitis sufferers Robin Morgan, Gloria Steinem and Eve Ensler take note.

    I have had enough of being told directly and obliquely that I have a weak lady brain susceptible to manipulation by right wing memes, that I have no legitimate political interests, that I have to close my eyes and think of Obama. I am not voting for my political rapists. Strong language I know but that’s exactly what happened to Hillary and her supporters.

  187. joaniebone at 2:05 said:
    There are some wonderful republicans that I have bonded with and discovered that we think alike on most issues. That has been incredible and great to discover. I’ll never forget it.
    But other times, as a result of my doings, I have received things in my inbox that I never wanted to see or have anything to do with. Mailings that use the word “liberal” as an insult–sent to me because they think I agree.
    Yes, I have chewed off an arm.
    Maybe that’s why I’ve been praying. It feels unholy. But I have no regret. I have been prepared to do whatever it takes to get the votes to defeat this guy.
    Thanks to this wonderful home, I still have a political identity–PUMA

    joaniebone, don’t be discouraged by ignorant people. I am a Republican and as much as I’d like to say we’re perfect, there are some plain ol’ dumb people out there. Don’t think that you’ve sold your soul to the devil. Agreeing with the Republican party on an issue (nobama) does not mean you subscribe to the complete ideology of some idiot who has an “R” by his/her name. There is so much cross-over in the middle it’s almost like a third party – I’m beginning to think there IS a new middle party and it’s the PUMAs!
    No party is perfect. Every party has embarrassing extremists who think they speak for the party. Sometimes patience is the only thing we have to keep us from strangling them. :)
    The people you’re hearing from would probably vote Republican come hell or high water, regardless of the outcome. Most Republicans I know tend to vote for what they truly believe is best for the country and not strictly down party lines.
    You haven’t chewed off an arm (that made me smile!). You’ve simply recognized that Obama is not the best thing for our country. And if a couple of crazy Republicans happen to agree, well, even a blind dog can find meat in a smokehouse.
    Wait – did I just call us dogs?? Ah well, you know what I meant. :)

    Of course, if you actually did chew off an arm, you could always use it to beat away those folks who don’t seem to get it. Call it “Whack-a-Wacko!”

  188. Baby Nazi – and OHitler is growing stronger every day. That’s why I am not only voting for McCain Palin, but straight down ticket Republican, just in case the worst happens.

  189. I know you all have moved to a different thread but I wanted to say thanks to madamab for putting it so well. Your strategy was mine exactly when I sent in my absentee ballot a month ago. Your reasoning is the same that I used back then.

    Thanks.

  190. My word is “stand.”

    I stood up. I am standing still. I will not be ignored. I took a stand for women, for Hillary, for Sarah Palin, for our daughters and our granddaughters. I voted the 30 percent solution: I voted for every woman on my ballot (including Palin), and, in the rare instances where there were two women running against each other, chose the Democrat.

    I will vote this way for the rest of my life until I see real gender parity and an end to the acceptance of misogyny in this country. If racism can beocme intolerable–as it has and should be–then so can the hatred and supression of women and our aspirations.

    My heartfelt thanks to my fellow PUMAs, female amd male. You have meant so much to me these last months.

    Magda

  191. Thanks, madamab! You speak for me. The misogyny and sexism leveled at HRC and Palin by the DNC, Nobama, and the MSM have stoked my writing fires all year. I’m constantly in “Huh?” mode with all my friends, feminists, and progressives trashing these women. And I, too, have discovered that Repubs are not the evil people I once thought.

  192. This was the year I threw off my partisan blinders and elitism and understood that this is a beautiful country, made up of sincere people who are just trying to do the right thing for themselves.

    Well said. I appreciate all your writing on the 30% solution. I early PUMA voted in Florida last week against Obama and for McCain/Palin and Hillary Clinton 2012.

  193. My word is the phrase “Eyes Wide Open”. I will NEVER again see the Democrat party as pointing the way to the kind of country/world I want. For the first time in my life I have listened to right wing radio….much of it still nauseates me, but I am starting to understand now how BOTH parties distort the truth and pander to voters. It feels very LIBERATING to not feel as though I have to defend Democrats or Republicans….I am, at 66, for the first time in my life a truly independent voter.

    And this independent voter, living in a true blue state, has voted for the Green ticket since they actually represent views I can embrace without equivocating. No longer will I withhold my vote from them because they are dreamers, or impractical, or out of the mainstream. When a 3rd party gains enough support it can start exerting real influence. And that is MY hope for the future…not the walking narcissistic personality disorder known as Obama.

  194. This is off-topic but I have a question. How do you feel about exit polls? Are you planning on participating?

    I am a Republican and I have always felt the exit polls give the media yet another tool for manipulating the election. If I lived out West, I’d be furious if the media were calling the race before I’d even stepped into the voting booth.

    Are PUMAs for or against exit polling?

  195. salmonrising, one man’s manipulator is another man’s entertainer. I have always heard conservatives describe Rush Limbaugh as merely an entertainer, and am now utterly shocked to hear liberals describe Keith Olbermann in just the same way. The hypocrisy beggars belief.

  196. JB – I’ve never been asked to participate. I live in blue blue NY. I would be happy to do so, though!

  197. I too fear the MSM juping the gun on Tuesday – I believe it is important that we all write to the head of the news department of all MSM and tell them that we won’t tolerate it.
    No, it may not stop them but then again it may help them think about what they are doing and remember Margaret Meade:

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.

  198. I don’t believe in exit polls – I think the skew the assessment -and yes, the MSM will use that information to “cook the books” :evil:

  199. Either Obama doesn’t know this little tidbit about Larry (which seems entirely implausible given the uproar about it in the news at the time) or he doesn’t care.

    Molly, Obama is once again purposely sticking it to women.

  200. Great post! I graduated college in 1958, so I have seen the attitude against women first hand and also, through myself and my daughter, seen the changes that have taken place. Not enough change has been wrought but with the candidates Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin, and the women in Congress we are seeing some movement in the right direction. We even have CEO’s who are women. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!! The best of this article was “agreeing to disagree.” All women can not want the same things as certainly all men do not want the same things. But discussion helps make anothers point of view not so strange. YOU CAN DO IT. For the next generation after you, make strides to make being a woman a Great Thng. BEING A WOMAN IS A GREAT THING! Actually, we do not need men and their BS except for one thing. To help populate the country!

  201. JB: i think PUMAs aren’t focused on exit polls right now …they’re focused on not getting Obama elected and then reform for primary/caucuses and the DNC

    but just my take on it

  202. Mayor G is on the call now

  203. Thank you, JB. that was great! By “chewing off an arm”
    I was referring to my lifelong identity as a DEMO with a capital D. My folks met at an Adlai Stevenson rally–doesn’t get too much more dyed in the wool than that.

    But I am forever changed by opening my eyes to the horrible hypocrisy within what used to be MY party. Shameful. Really-I’ll never get over it.

    There is a new party coming, I think. A home for all of us.

  204. dakinikat, I understand. My best wishes to all PUMAs. Let me just say that based on what I’ve read, you all are going to have an incredible new political party after this election, regardless of whether you still call yourselves Dems or officially change your name to PUMAs or something else.

    I’m a little jealous. :) I’d love to see the Republicans have the fire and passion you have. Do you have room in PUMAs for pro-lifers? :) Either way, good luck in your endeavors.

  205. I’d love to see the Republicans have the fire and passion you have. Do you have room in PUMAs for pro-lifers
    ___________________________________________
    no!

  206. JB – Speaking only for myself, I am a social libertarian. I do not care what a person does with his or her own body, as long as they don’t try to impose their own choices on me.

    So I vote an enthusiastic “yes” for pro-lifers, as long as they are not trying to limit my own freedom to control my body.

  207. madamab
    JB

    Don’t pro-lifers want abortion to be ILLEGAL?

    It is my understanding that “pro-life”= anti-abortion.

  208. For those of you talking about CA…. remember there has been a large change in demographics. Pro-life hispanics. They are typically liberal/Dem with regards to fiscal policy but very conservative with regards to women’s rights and gay rights.

    It makes sense for them to vote for the Dem candidate for financial welfare issues at the national level and then pass prop 8 to make gay marriage illegal at the same time.

  209. catarina – Pro-lifers can be that way for themselves. That’s my understanding.

    But trying to make abortion illegal, is not a goal of PUMA I would support. I am firmly in the pro-freedom camp.

  210. my word is “Hubris”; describes Obama, Kerry, Dean, Brazille and all Obama in-party supporters

  211. “catarina, on November 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 pm Said:

    I’d love to see the Republicans have the fire and passion you have. Do you have room in PUMAs for pro-lifers”

    Catarina, are you interested in defeating Obama and standing up against the corruption of voter rights? PUMA UP!!

    Also you might be interested in joining “The New Agenda” a new womens rights group that has taken R. V. W. off the table and will be addressing all the OTHER issues N.O.W. put on the back burner for years. Women of all stripes and beliefs invited.

  212. madamab

    I’ve been pushed, shoved, kicked in the shins, punched, and and spit on by “pro-lifers” while working as a volunteer escort at women’s clinics.
    They’ve called me and the women seeking medical care filthy names I won’t write here.
    They’ve hit me with signs and blocked doors.
    They’ve killed women and bombed clinics in my city.
    They have threatened and harassed doctors who perform abortions.
    Pro-life is code for anti-choice, violent, in-your-face, your body is not your own and we’ll make you miserable politics.
    I have zero tolerance for these “pro-lifers”.

  213. Alice Paul

    I have worked MY ASS OFF to defeat Obama.
    And I will do so right up until they call it on Tuesday night.
    I’ve given money, time, sweat, tears, McCain gear, and have lost friends.
    I’m voting McCain/Palin.

    But I will work for reproductive freedom for women until I die.
    And after that if anyone tries to fuck with Roe I’ll be back from the grave to haunt them!

  214. I wasn’t trying to start anything or upset anyone. The last thing you need right now is a lurker like me stepping in and stirring the pot. In hindsight it wasn’t the right time or place to start asking questions about what does or doesn’t define the new party. You guys are great! You are a Force! You are admired!

    (please feel free to delete my message if it causes strife) :( I’m sorry.

  215. JB
    This one’s for you :-)

    http://www.republicansforchoice.com/

  216. Catarina, done and done.

  217. I am personally pro-life and politically pro-choice. I realize, and advocate, that bearing a child is a personal and private decision. I do not want anyone to take my choice away from me and I certainly do not want to take another woman’s choice away from her.

  218. Beautiful post, madamab. Sorry I’m so late to the party. I really appreciated what you had to say about McCain and women. And I have so much appreciated your introducing me to the 30% strategy. I’m sold on it all the way.

  219. Killer post Madamab. You have the gift.

  220. catarina, on November 2nd, 2008 at 8:22 pm Said:

    “Alice Paul

    I have worked MY ASS OFF to defeat Obama.
    And I will do so right up until they call it on Tuesday night.
    I’ve given money, time, sweat, tears, McCain gear, and have lost friends.
    I’m voting McCain/Palin.

    But I will work for reproductive freedom for women until I die.
    And after that if anyone tries to fuck with Roe I’ll be back from the grave to haunt them!”

    Then you and I are on the exact same page, doing the exact same things! Thanks for all your hard work!

  221. Two Words:

    Ralph Nader

  222. [...] Late-breakers: Over at the Confluence, more and more die-hard Hillary backers are coming out for John McCain and Sarah Palin.  Granted, how much the blogosphere mirrors the “real” world is [...]

  223. “myiq2xu
    Remember how some people said he picked Palin just to try to win women’s votes?
    What’s wrong with that?”

    Woah, hello.
    All else aside, ignoring left, right, conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, and all differences in political opinion- it should be wrong that any presidential candidate pick a running mate or make any important decisions for the sole sake of getting votes. It shows a complete disregard for the state of our nation to choose a running mate with the intention of getting into the White House; any presidential candidate should be focused on improving the country, running with qualified politicians, people who can help them make a substantial difference in the government and in our country as a whole. Wanting to increase the number of women in power is a highly admirable goal, and it’s great that McCain is showing his willingness to do so… but that should NOT come at the expense of the country. Having experienced and useful politicians is preferable to change the country, to change policy and to make a difference… just sticking any random woman into a position of power for the sake of having a woman in that position doesn’t help any cause.
    I’m not trying to say that Palin is just a random woman, or that she could make no change in the country… I’m just saying, that’s not the smartest argument to be making. If Palin was picked just because McCain thought she could garner more votes to help him get into the White House on the basis of her sex, that becomes a problem with his decision making, and makes me question his real intentions in his candidacy. Is it for the country, or for himself?

    All this said, there were other female, Republican vice presidential possibles that would have been much more qualified than Palin to assume the Vice Presidency, which again lends suspicion to McCain’s choice of a decidedly feminine woman who is less experienced and qualified than she is charismatic and attractive.

  224. Voter Conscience Poll

    For the past week, I’ve been conducting a poll comparing voters’ conscience votes compared to their actual planned vote for president.

    The results have been very surprising so far. I am doing this for research purposes and want to capture as much data as possible by election night.

    Add your voice and please tell others about the poll.

    http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/363596

  225. The people who work in the coal industry may already be voting for McCain, but they aren’t the only ones who would be impacted by his plans to harm the industry. Thousands of other businesses depend on that industry in all the coal-producing states. I’m from Detroit originally and anything that affects the domestic auto industry pretty much affects everybody in Detroit one way or other.

    When John McCain gives his word that he will bring about a dramatic increase in the number of women in Washington, I just instinctively, intuitively believe him. I know that he’s a man of his word. When Barack Obama makes a promise it’s kind of like when someone in Los Angeles makes a promise to do something with you–go to a movie, go out to eat, go out shopping, whatever. “Yes” means “unless I get a better offer.” That’s Barack Obama in a nutshell. Every promise is really a maybe.

  226. Honestly, I am tired of defending whom I want to win on the election. I realize who ever will win the heart and mind of America, what we need is change. Someone, who will not make his promises to be broken, our future, is in our hands.

  227. I voted for Hillary and now I am voting for McCain/Palin! :D

  228. “Wonder what the voters in coal rich states like Pennsylvania will think about Obama’s desire to rape their state by bankrupting the coal industry?”

    Ummm, nothing has “raped” those states as hard, as long, and as brutally as the coal industry. If Obama wants to replace those industries with a truly green alternative that will KEEP JOBS I’m all for it.

    Of course, he doesn’t really–on this, as on everything else, he is lying out of one side of his mouth and pandering out of the other.

    There are a billion good reasons to oppose Obama, but let’s not get all weepy for the coal industry, or pretend it hasn’t caused enormous destruction where it has taken hold.

  229. Homeland Security is hoping for McCain to win.

  230. barjotmeuf –

    Are you kidding?

    How can a politician do anything to help his or her constituents if he or she does not win the election?

    It shocks me how many Obama supporters think the way you do. Let me remind you that we are the bosses of our candidates, not the other way around. If they don’t do what we want, they don’t get our votes.

    PERIOD.

    Good luck on Tuesday.

  231. Lifelong Democrat here, but the misogyny in this election is keeping me up late at night. I am a mother of daughters and will vote McCain/Palin in their honor.

  232. Winning the election certainly has to be a priority, but not at the expense of what you’re trying to accomplish for the nation.
    Would you justify pandering, then, and making ridiculous promises while campaigning if it secured the candidate’s position in office? I mean, by your logic they should do whatever they can to get there, and then they can try to enact change… but if they’re making useless promises/ tacking on useless running mates just to get there, what real change will they make?
    It’s admirable, like I said, to get women into more positions of power… but it seems like blind adherence to an ideology to insist that underqualified women fill positions just because they’re women. I would go so far as to make the assertion that choosing Palin as a running mate is actually a detriment to feminism. By voting for McCain based on the woman on his ticket, it objectifies and reduces Palin to merely her sex. I mean, even on the comments to this post, even in YOUR post, you find citizens willing to overlook Palin’s horrendously anti-woman and extremist political positions [the agenda she will push IF she gets into office] in order to get a woman into the White House. Is it right to sacrifice the principles of women’s rights, human rights even, for the principle of feminism? I guess I personally don’t believe so. I’m offended that McCain thought that he could get my vote as a woman and a feminist simply by choosing an attractive, amicable woman as a running mate. I happen to think that policy and her political positions matter MORE than her sex… and forgive me if I interpret it differently than you, but isn’t that what feminism is about? OVERLOOKING sex, rejecting the notion that women are different than men and deserve different treatment, just because they’re women? But that’s exactly what I see people doing… ignoring the important political issues that would matter in any other candidate and supporting someone they otherwise wouldn’t simply based on her sex.
    I guess bottom line for me for any politician, regardless of sex, race, age, etc: if I don’t support their political ideas and I won’t support their agenda in the White House, I won’t support them as a candidate.
    Period.

  233. [...] Strategies from The Confluence bloggers: Misogyny, by MadamaB Democracy, by SM Time For Change, by GaryChapelHill A Long and Winding Road, by [...]

  234. Palin is anit woman?? You have her confused with Obama..checked out his Larry Summers choice for cabinet position lately?

    I have another word: 17 SEVENTEEN.

    Voter fraud, cheating the more qualified woman out of her place in history with caucus fraud and voter fraud in the Indiana primary. Using misogyny as a campaign talking point right out of the Axelrod play book.

    Please. Voting Obama is voting AGAINST women in a non choice year and you can thank Obama for that.

  235. No woman on my ballot. There aren’t enough women in the Massachusetts government. For two elections in a row the female contenders for governor were considered weaker than the males.

  236. [...] of us who don’t have a trust fund, this could be a looooong four years. (Thanks to Madamab at The Confluence) Posted in Election 2008, Women. Tags: [...]

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