Comments on: Wednesday: Bailout Bill in the Senate. Will the Democrats show up? http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/ A weblog for Democrats in Exile Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:46:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: californian4clinton http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-164157 californian4clinton Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:36:17 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-164157 Judging by the bias, the hate and the divisiveness that this election has brought up from the senate to the street corner, I do not think that people on this planet can be trusted to be fair, honest or reliable enough to cut funding for the military; ever. Obama talks so much crap and he pushes the hateful tactics of getting in one's face; does he not think that hatred is not felt just as deeply by others around the world? Countries that hate us cannot be trusted to not attack us; does the word power in super power get lost? Power is coveted and allows freedom and has to be fought for because everyone would like to be on top; veterans have given too much for this jr senator to just pull out without a really good plan. Pelosi, Brazile, Ifill, Dean, Obama and the rest of them are full of crap; biased, ugly, crap. I would love to turn the table on any one of the bs tactics they have used during this railroad job of an election; Ohio is fighting voter fraud today. Change is like a slug in the face; I guess we should get used to road rage, arguing and, in the end, probably even stealing. I am personally disgusted with the Dems; I hope they lose and implode. Judging by the bias, the hate and the divisiveness that this election has brought up from the senate to the street corner, I do not think that people on this planet can be trusted to be fair, honest or reliable enough to cut funding for the military; ever. Obama talks so much crap and he pushes the hateful tactics of getting in one’s face; does he not think that hatred is not felt just as deeply by others around the world? Countries that hate us cannot be trusted to not attack us; does the word power in super power get lost? Power is coveted and allows freedom and has to be fought for because everyone would like to be on top; veterans have given too much for this jr senator to just pull out without a really good plan.
Pelosi, Brazile, Ifill, Dean, Obama and the rest of them are full of crap; biased, ugly, crap. I would love to turn the table on any one of the bs tactics they have used during this railroad job of an election; Ohio is fighting voter fraud today. Change is like a slug in the face; I guess we should get used to road rage, arguing and, in the end, probably even stealing. I am personally disgusted with the Dems; I hope they lose and implode.

]]> By: Nikki Sword http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163817 Nikki Sword Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:14:19 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163817 Since when did the Republicans corner the market on greed, nastiness and corruption? The DEMOCRATS began the legislation to FORCE banks and lending institutions to loan to people who under normal circumstances could not afford a home loan. Every time anyone mentioned that things were getting out of control, the DEMS told them to shut up... everything is fine. Barney Frank, Maxine Waters... there are audio and video clips of them saying there was NO PROBLEM with Freddie and Fannie in 2003 & 2004. While it's a nice thought that everyone in America own a home and a car, it is NOT reality. Unfortunately, our entire government is corrupt, both Repubs and Dems. They all have their hands in the till via Freddie and Fannie so WHY SHOULD THEY CHANGE ANYTHING? The CEO's, lobbyists and politicians are all excellent bed-fellows. Notice there have been NO criminal charges filed. During the Enron debacle, the politicians were screaming for the CEO's blood. Whose blood will they scream for with this Fannie and Freddie mess? No one's, because they are in it up to their own eyeballs. Freddie and Fannie should go bankrupt... those responsible should lose their shirts. Capitalism WORKS when the government does NOT meddle in it. You can't fix broken government entities with MORE government... it just will not work. Vote out ALL incumbents and vote in men who will uphold the Consitution because ALL bail-outs are unconstitutional. Since when did the Republicans corner the market on greed, nastiness and corruption? The DEMOCRATS began the legislation to FORCE banks and lending institutions to loan to people who under normal circumstances could not afford a home loan. Every time anyone mentioned that things were getting out of control, the DEMS told them to shut up… everything is fine. Barney Frank, Maxine Waters… there are audio and video clips of them saying there was NO PROBLEM with Freddie and Fannie in 2003 & 2004. While it’s a nice thought that everyone in America own a home and a car, it is NOT reality. Unfortunately, our entire government is corrupt, both Repubs and Dems. They all have their hands in the till via Freddie and Fannie so WHY SHOULD THEY CHANGE ANYTHING?
The CEO’s, lobbyists and politicians are all excellent bed-fellows. Notice there have been NO criminal charges filed. During the Enron debacle, the politicians were screaming for the CEO’s blood. Whose blood will they scream for with this Fannie and Freddie mess? No one’s, because they are in it up to their own eyeballs. Freddie and Fannie should go bankrupt… those responsible should lose their shirts.
Capitalism WORKS when the government does NOT meddle in it. You can’t fix broken government entities with MORE government… it just will not work. Vote out ALL incumbents and vote in men who will uphold the Consitution because ALL bail-outs are unconstitutional.

]]> By: vbonnaire http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163710 vbonnaire Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:55:36 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163710 WTF is Hillary doing helping that mofo anyway? you know? It makes me outraged at both Clintons. Outraged after everything we saw. At this point, REFORM all the crooked crap. Like this Dean guy. WTF is Hillary doing helping that mofo anyway?

you know?

It makes me outraged at both Clintons. Outraged after everything we saw. At this point, REFORM all the crooked crap. Like this Dean guy.

]]> By: vbonnaire http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163705 vbonnaire Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:51:58 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163705 RD & Co. -- in all the research I've been doing into Pelosi/Soros/Obama I came across a youtube that all of you probably know more about than me! Of course! But check this out -- it is Howard Dean and I thought the text accompanying this little video was interesting..... especially something called the "Austraman Petition" -- I tried to Google it and got nothing! Does this video mean something to PUMAS overall? It has only had 573 views -----? Here tis! read the text though ------ GEEZ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX8MtpRizr4 hugs to all around here! RD & Co. — in all the research I’ve been doing into Pelosi/Soros/Obama I came across a youtube that all of you probably know more about than me! Of course! But check this out — it is Howard Dean and I thought the text accompanying this little video was interesting…..

especially something called the “Austraman Petition” — I tried to Google it and got nothing! Does this video mean something to PUMAS overall? It has only had 573 views —–?

Here tis!

read the text though —— GEEZ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX8MtpRizr4

hugs to all around here!

]]> By: riverdaughter http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163377 riverdaughter Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:21:25 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163377 Jangles: to clarify- I am a progressive Democrat. I tend to the moderate side of progressive. Raising the FDIC limit is great if you have more than $100K in your bank account. Most average Americans do not. Most Americans are $9000 in debt on their credit cards. Most Americans do not get massive bonuses. Most Americans are paying a sizeable amount of their salary on housing. Then there's health insurance and a lot of other stuff that most Americans consider urgent issues but Wall Street does not. By the way, do you know that the GOP is offering doubling the property tax deduction? Most Americans would like that but people in NJ will really like it. It might even swing the state to John McCain but I am content to leave the deduction as it is. Because we need the money for other things that benefit most Americans. Here's the problem: this bailout is being used as a political football. I'm kind of sick of Republicans and investment types making off like bandits when most Americans go begging for SCHIP. No more. It is time the well off felt some pain too. Let's protect the wealth of the elderly and the working stiff. That would be most Americans. The bailout has to have a rescue plan for US or the GOP and Wall Street can keep it's hands off of my stack. Jangles: to clarify- I am a progressive Democrat. I tend to the moderate side of progressive. Raising the FDIC limit is great if you have more than $100K in your bank account. Most average Americans do not. Most Americans are $9000 in debt on their credit cards.
Most Americans do not get massive bonuses. Most Americans are paying a sizeable amount of their salary on housing. Then there’s health insurance and a lot of other stuff that most Americans consider urgent issues but Wall Street does not. By the way, do you know that the GOP is offering doubling the property tax deduction? Most Americans would like that but people in NJ will really like it. It might even swing the state to John McCain but I am content to leave the deduction as it is. Because we need the money for other things that benefit most Americans.
Here’s the problem: this bailout is being used as a political football. I’m kind of sick of Republicans and investment types making off like bandits when most Americans go begging for SCHIP. No more. It is time the well off felt some pain too. Let’s protect the wealth of the elderly and the working stiff. That would be most Americans. The bailout has to have a rescue plan for US or the GOP and Wall Street can keep it’s hands off of my stack.

]]> By: Adam http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163374 Adam Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:19:48 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163374 I am almost certain the Senate and House will vote this one through. I actually wrote up something for my blog on the same subject, about how it was inevitable a bill would be passed (click my name). Sorry for you guys who want to stop this thing - It might be inevitable. I am almost certain the Senate and House will vote this one through. I actually wrote up something for my blog on the same subject, about how it was inevitable a bill would be passed (click my name).

Sorry for you guys who want to stop this thing – It might be inevitable.

]]> By: waldenpond http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163276 waldenpond Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:28:04 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163276 Just say 'no deal?' I don't want a deal. This is one of those situations where I would prefer limited Repub positions as a way to soften the fall. Everyone is at fault (market, govt and individuals) and they need to pay for their own mistakes. I want the natural consequence of a tightened credit market to occur. We have got to stop being a debtor nation and debtor citizens. I am watching the greedy Ds and the greedy Rs grabbing for a piece of a pie and getting angrier by the day. Dobbs had the phone number up if you want to call but I have been able to get through as they are swamped. 202-224-3121 to express whether you are for or against. I have been e-mailing since I can't get through. Our country is a 'money pit' Just say ‘no deal?’ I don’t want a deal. This is one of those situations where I would prefer limited Repub positions as a way to soften the fall. Everyone is at fault (market, govt and individuals) and they need to pay for their own mistakes. I want the natural consequence of a tightened credit market to occur. We have got to stop being a debtor nation and debtor citizens.

I am watching the greedy Ds and the greedy Rs grabbing for a piece of a pie and getting angrier by the day.

Dobbs had the phone number up if you want to call but I have been able to get through as they are swamped.
202-224-3121 to express whether you are for or against. I have been e-mailing since I can’t get through.

Our country is a ‘money pit’

]]> By: Downticket http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163256 Downticket Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:15:30 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163256 <b>How many people's reputations need to be destroyed in the name of Barack Obama?</b> What does he have that others don't? How many people’s reputations need to be destroyed in the name of Barack Obama?

What does he have that others don’t?

]]> By: Boo Radly http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163247 Boo Radly Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:08:06 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163247 Joan said 'Bill didn’t decide to repeal Glass-Steagall-he was presented with a veto-proof bill to sign. What is wrong with Obama? He can’t be that stupid.' masslib said 'I just read Idiot Obama has been blaming Bill for all of this because his decision to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. Please tell me he is not that stupid.' {{{{{crikits}}}}} He really really is that stupid. The D leadership really really is that clueless. How much more do they have to shiv us with before it is etched in stone - they have not done one thing to correct Bu$h - the selected one is upon us so they can do the same. This is not your father's Democratic Party - Once again, Clinton shrewdly whittles away at Obama using honesty Joan said ‘Bill didn’t decide to repeal Glass-Steagall-he was presented with a veto-proof bill to sign. What is wrong with Obama? He can’t be that stupid.’

masslib said ‘I just read Idiot Obama has been blaming Bill for all of this because his decision to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. Please tell me he is not that stupid.’ {{{{{crikits}}}}}

He really really is that stupid. The D leadership really really is that clueless. How much more do they have to shiv us with before it is etched in stone – they have not done one thing to correct Bu$h – the selected one is upon us so they can do the same. This is not your father’s Democratic Party –

Once again, Clinton shrewdly whittles away at Obama using honesty

]]> By: Boo Radly http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/wednesday-bailout-bill-in-the-senate-will-the-democrats-show-up/#comment-163212 Boo Radly Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:50:05 +0000 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/?p=6382#comment-163212 Pat J. @10:01 - what you said - exactly. Don't forget all the regulartory agencies which have not been funded since 2000 or, are now totally in the pockets of the people they are supposed to be watching. Wish there was an antidote for voters being brain dead. Anyone who thinks BZero is a Dem or the so called D party leaders are Dems are smoking sumpin. It is hard to zip lip when someone says they "can't vote for a Repug" - what's the other choice? Hillary is not to be considered and she was the only Dem - you know, the issues they used to have and the fighting attitude they used to use. catarina - there are only about three people here who are overbearing, not counting drivebys. Some of the shit that is happening is having a greater effect on some(finances - health coverage) and it is showing but, to be expected. This truly is a shitty political season with shitty choices. United maybe we can do something about some of it. Pat J. @10:01 – what you said – exactly. Don’t forget all the regulartory agencies which have not been funded since 2000 or, are now totally in the pockets of the people they are supposed to be watching.

Wish there was an antidote for voters being brain dead. Anyone who thinks BZero is a Dem or the so called D party leaders are Dems are smoking sumpin.
It is hard to zip lip when someone says they “can’t vote for a Repug” – what’s the other choice? Hillary is not to be considered and she was the only Dem – you know, the issues they used to have and the fighting attitude they used to use.

catarina – there are only about three people here who are overbearing, not counting drivebys.

Some of the shit that is happening is having a greater effect on some(finances – health coverage) and it is showing but, to be expected. This truly is a shitty political season with shitty choices.

United maybe we can do something about some of it.

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