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An Open Letter to Barack Obama

(Note: Good thoughts and hugs to those who are in the path of Hurricane Ike. May this season end soon.)

Lipstick On A Pig

Lipstick On A Pig

Dear Senator Obama,

I understand how difficult your childhood must have been. After all, you were partially raised by a middle-class woman who was single for about six months and who, at some point in her life, may or may not have been on food stamps. After that horror of poverty and privation, you were raised by your upper-middle-class grandparents, including your grandmother, who apparently was a typical white person (i.e., racist). (I’m wiping tears from my eyes as I type!)

Nonetheless, I am wondering if at any point in your life, these parental figures ever said to you the following, which I heard every day of my life:

“Now apologize and shake hands!”

and

“Two wrongs don’t make a right!”

You see, when you do something wrong, and everyone knows it, you are supposed to apologize to the wronged party. This is something every seven-year-old is taught, but somehow, it has escaped your consciousness.

Case in point: When you call your opponent’s vice president a pig and say she smells like fish, you do not try to pretend you didn’t do it. You did it, in front of God and YouTube. So apologize and move on, otherwise you will engender anger and resentment. Anger, on the behalf of Governor Palin and her supporters and sympathizers; and resentment, by those who realize that you have so little respect for their intelligence that you think they will swallow your unbelievably lame horseshit. No, that’s not rain; you’re pissing down our backs, Senator.

And yes, Senator McCain has also used the expression “lipstick on a pig.” But here’s a thought for you:

SO WHAT???

Even if McCain had done what you say he did (which of course, he did not, since he was referring to policy and not person, unlike yourself), how does that excuse your actions in any way? Guess what – it doesn’t.

In conclusion, Senator, you need to start remembering all those lessons your mom and grandparents taught you, and stop obsessing about your absent, bigamist father. You are becoming a national embarrassment.

Thanks ever so,

America

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174 Responses

  1. “and stop obsessing about your absent, bigamist father.”

    Ummm..I think that would be “your absent, drunk, bigamist father with two iron legs.”

  2. OMG – idiot talking heads saying precious just didn’t mean it – he’s tired, he’s been on the campaign trail for 19 months, blah, blah, – jayzeus – get this piece of shit off the trail – I so hope the Democratic Party just implodes & goes down in flames – they keep yapping about Palin making the same speech over & over – well, she’s talking to different people – all of the Democratic talkingheads sound like frickin’ pod people & if one more young woman says Roe V Wade – I may throw the damm TV out the window – this is not an issue & I’m tired of having my vagina be a reason to vote for precious – god – what an image that put’s in my head – get it out, get it out – ugh!!!!!

    If 93% of AA’s can vote for a 1/2 black man and not be called racist – then as a white woman I can vote for another white woman without being called racist – good for the goose, is good for the gander –

    Noway Nobama Nobiden November ———————- :evil:

  3. Obama, Where did learn to give the finger, so covertly, in church.

  4. oh crap – I said the R*cist word – can you get me out of moderation please, pretty please???

  5. thank you………………………

  6. The only thing I blame his mother and “typical white” grandparents for is that they obviously didn’t teach Obama any class or respect for women regardless of their race or political beliefs. I now believe that he must really have resentment towards white women – his mom, Hillary Clinton, and now Sarah Palin who will inevitably ruin his chances of becoming president. Awww, poor Barry. Maybe he can run to mommy – I mean wife – Michelle to make everything better.

  7. … he’s tired, he’s been on the campaign trail for 19 month …

    And he apparently thinks it gets easier after he gets elected. If 19 months of campaigning tires him out, what the fuck screwups will we be trated to once he — gawd forBID — get into office? He has NO IDEA what the office of president is going to require from him. There’s a reason why anyone who’s ever held the office looks twenty years older when they leave.

  8. On Hannity and colmes (or whatever it’s called) the repub one said that he thought Obama took pains not to show who he really is cause the Am people wouldn’t like him. I thought, no way. He’s just an inarticulate goof with no moral center. But now I think maybe the repub has something. Just looking at obama and his opinion of women- thinly and not disguised at all, at times. I don’t think he believes women are equal. I don’t think he thinks women belong in politics. I think he’s got one of those religious-f’d up heads that tells him that it is men first.

  9. SOD – You think so?

    (whistling non-chalantly)

  10. One look at the state of Hip-Hop and you can see how that community values women.

  11. […] at The Confluence Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Obama keeping up on […]

  12. I now believe that he must really have resentment towards white women – his mom, Hillary Clinton, and now Sarah Palin

    It certianly does seem that way. I had the same thought during the primary battles too- and tha ravings of the pastors in his church kinda strengthened that feeling.What I do not understand is why would he have resentment towards the parent who was there for him and obsess about a father who he met only ONCE? Any psychologists here who can explain?

  13. SOD – I wanted it to be as cartoonish as he is. I could have made it look a lot more realistic, but he doesn’t deserve the effort.

  14. webberpa, on September 10th, 2008 at 1:51 pm Said:
    He did not call her a pig or say she smelled like a fish you moron, get the facts straight!

    _______

    Another case of WORM

  15. I now believe that he must really have resentment towards white women

    wouldn’t that make him…..racist????

  16. I’m standing up and applauding. That was great. Thanks for saying that for all of us.

  17. web burp…read your screen closely, you’re in moderation…and you’re not getting out. Bwahahhahah!!!! :)

  18. lisadawn82 – Never vote for a WORM!

  19. Madamab, you are too funny! Maybe Donna Brazile can teach Barack some of the lessons that her momma taught her about, ya know, playin’ fair, and the rulz, and all that stuff. Oh, I guess she already did.

  20. Gary – you are awesome! Thanks for being so quick on the trigger!

    The trolls are swarming today. This latest show of hatred by their Beloved is really giving them a serious case of flop sweat.

    And it was so nice to be without them for a while…sigh….

  21. madamab, hope you don’t mind me moderating them on your post….I’m having fun playing with them :)

  22. LBNYC – Yes, I think he is learning from Brazile’s momma all right. That explains a lot!

  23. Mawm, believe me, I’ve heard PLENTY of young white-guy hip-hop fans who love that crap, too. Misogyny is ALL colors, and it’s not like headbanger metal is any better.

  24. I think Obama is making a clear path for all feminists to walk away from him (I took off at a good clip right from the start). It is clear he holds women in disdain.
    Other feminists are just going to have to come to the realization that he is no feminist, that the spectre of Roe v. Wade being overturned is a far, far, far shot and can be combated in any number of ways which do not include electing a douche bag like obama.
    The peel off has already begun. NOW’s NY chapter pres wrote a brilliant piece on why women should walk away from the dems. (sorry don’t have link, but someone’s already posted it here, no doubt). There is no reason for a feminist to vote Obama. The dem party let us know we don’t matter. We need to let them know they don’t matter.

  25. garychapelhill, on September 10th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    wouldn’t that make him…..racist????

    __________

    This line makes me think of the Church Lady.

  26. Just thought to post this on your sight, and discover voila! – you have a simliar photo already.

    Hoping all day to see one like this, and seems appropo to be on Larry’s site (whether Barry was in drag with him or not). It looks a bit more realistic:

    http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

    Enjoy!

  27. The trolls are really hyped on on high fructose beverages today.

  28. Oh Gary, please feel free! I don’t have all the fun rights you do anyway…
    :-)

    BTW, to all the Conflucian Players from last night – thank you! You were wonderful!

  29. PS, love the letter, especially the two wrongs thing. that is really disturbing. The whole list of palin smears coming out of his campaign, after having a fit about people calling him muslim and blaming hillary for the somali photo….can we say hypocrisy??

  30. madamab, I was trying to do a chicago accent for axelrod, but i’m not a very good actor :( he he….

  31. Remember the RFK fauxrage?

    When Hillary realized that some people might be offended by her statement, she immediately clarified and apologized. She didn’t admit doing anything wrong, just that he statement was clumsy and possibly offensive.

    That’s the correct way to handle something like this. “I meant no offense, and I apologize for any misunderstanding”

    Obama just denies everything and blames us for being too sensitive (or says we’re faking)

  32. angelasmith, I haven’t seen it, but i’d love to read it..I’ll go try and find…..brb

  33. Gary: I don’t know if that makes him a racist. I have a very, VERY small amount of empathy for his family situation. He obviously grew up confused and conflicted about his identity. But he has had a good life and many more opportunities than most Americans. I am not going to even try to understand the psychological issues he has with mommy and women right now. I just don’t want a sexist, dirty Chicago pol running this country.

    Runa: I agree. It makes you wonder how someone who is half white and was raised by his white mother and grandparents could sit in a church like that for nearly 20 years and accept the r_a_c_ism and misogyny towards white woman spewed from that pulpit every Sunday. I believe that he has some unresolved issues with his mother which he should have taken care of by visiting her on her deathbed. There are a lot of family and psychological issues about Obama that I often think about but that’s not the main issue I have with him. I am against him because of what he did to Hillary Clinton during the primaries and the way in which he has chosen to get ahead in politics.

  34. Gary: I don’t know if that makes him a r_a_c_ist. I have a very, VERY small amount of empathy for his family situation. He obviously grew up confused and conflicted about his identity. But he has had a good life and many more opportunities than most Americans. I am not going to even try to understand the psychological issues he has with mommy and women right now. I just don’t want a sexist, dirty Chicago pol running this country.

    Runa: I agree. It makes you wonder how someone who is half white and was raised by his white mother and grandparents could sit in a church like that for nearly 20 years and accept the r_a_c_ism and misogyny towards white woman spewed from that pulpit every Sunday. I believe that he has some unresolved issues with his mother which he should have taken care of by visiting her on her deathbed. There are a lot of family and psychological issues about Obama that I often think about but that’s not the main issue I have with him. I am against him because of what he did to Hillary Clinton during the primaries and the way in which he has chosen to get ahead in politics.

  35. AngelaSmith, I feel that the degradation of Roe can in fact be combatted most effectively by NOT electing Obama. When the Dems learn that they can’t take us for granted, they’ll start actually shoring up Roe and defending it (and defending their female candidates against disgusting attacks) instead of just happily letting it dangle in the hopes that they can someday threaten our lives to get them to vote for us.

    They almost came in their goddamned pants when they realized they could finally pull what they thought was their trump card against us. You could almost hear the glee: “This is GREAT! THIS is what we’ve been letting abortion hang by a thread for! We finally get to use it to get the bitches in line!” Then, they brought it out, lovingly, like Babe Ruth lovingly hauling out his favorite bat.

    And we failed to cringe. I am so proud, and I hope I’ll be prouder on November 5th, of all women everywhere — when we stare down the mouth of the cannon and refuse to blink.

    This is our moment, this is our time standing in front of the tank.

  36. Gary – That “Two wrongs” thing is false equivalency, a tactic used by the freepers for years and years.

    It drives me crazy when they do it, and it is so upsetting to see people who call themselves Democrats stoop so low as to do the same thing. A friend of mine who supported Hillary is now telling me that Palin is being attacked on issues, not smeared because she’s a woman. Lipstick on a pig – okay because McCain said it about Hillary!

    I showed him the factcheck.org thing and he sent me that stupid email letter by “Anne Kilkenny.”

    Yeah, those are the same. I should take some random person’s opinion over my own observations and the stated facts!

    It’s amazing how blind some people are to the massive sexism in the media, the Democratic Party and their own assumptions.

  37. resentment, by those who realize that you have so little respect for their intelligence that you think they will swallow your unbelievably lame horseshit.

    LOL! And Palin is making the same speech? Hell, Obama has been making the same speech (except when he flips on issues) for 19 months.

    The argument that McCain said it too is irrelevant. As Lambert said, did McCain make it right after his opponent used the word lipstick in regard to a pitbull (another animal) in front 37 million people within the last week? It’s utterly ridiculous. We’ve seen this show before–you think you’re tired Barky, we’re tired too–OF YOU.

  38. …threaten our
    lives to get them to vote for us.

    Or threaten OUR lives to get us to vote for THEM, even.

    Dur.

  39. Word, Janis!

    American women are waking up, and we WILL NOT back down till we get what we want! And you know what? Whatever party caters to MY needs will get my vote!

    Wow. Who’da thunk it?

  40. To the trolls: The Messiah told you that he wasn’t going to play “this” political game; he said change is coming – he’s gonna do it a different way by only talking about the issues. Yet, here he is talking about pigs and lipstick and smelly fish (and a host of other things in the past two+ months). So what’s it gonna be? The issues or pigs and lipstick? You figure it out!

    And, I like MadamAb’s post; a narcissist never apologizes because he hasn’t done anything wrong! He’s perfect.

  41. myiq2xu, on September 10th, 2008 at 2:04 pm Said:

    Obama just denies everything and blames us for being too sensitive (or says we’re faking)

    Or is it code for just plain stupid?

    It is moments like these when the arrogance really shows through. Sometimes I feel like BZero doesn’t want to be President of all us plebians, we are not worthy.

  42. Janis,
    you make an excellent point about Roe v. Wade and the dems.

  43. Holy Koresh!

    WKJM² is now quoting Bareback Andy

  44. But-but-but-but madamab, they’re just GIVING YOU WHAT YOU WANT! They’re PANDERING to you!

    Yes. They are. Why haven’t the Dems been “pandering” to me?

    Ah, I get it now — the scales have fallen from my eyes! Shitting all over women voters and ignoring us has been a sign of their great respect! How COULD I have been so blind?

  45. The latest news on Reuters

    McCain gains among women voters
    (02:08) Report

    Sep 9 – McCain’s surge in the polls since the Republican Convention is attributable to a shift in support among white women, who now give McCain a 12 point lead.

    According to a Washington Post/ABC poll, among all voters who supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries– nearly a quarter– about 5 million voters– say they plan to support John McCain in November

  46. If he wants to be in the WH for 48 months I don’t want to hear an whining about being on the campaign trail for less than half that. If Bambi doesn’t have the fortitude he should step aside and allow someone who does to run in his stead. At this point I am about sick of the whining about how hard he has it. No one forced him to run.

    Personally, I don’t feel a bit sorry for someone who has too much ego and not enough brains to make the decision that would have made this all a moot point.

  47. And youir sign would be written in lipstick. :-)

    There was that lipstick thingie called “Debate” that someone sold that was supposed to be a color blend for Hillary Clinton, wasn’t there? People mentioned it on another recent thread where they were talknig about “Palin Pink.” (I’m waiting for “Pitbull Pink,” mahself.)

  48. You know … I have to say this.

    I wonder how long the DNC will stay in Chicago now? Hee-hee. The carpets probably haven’t even finished outgassing in the new headquarters.

    I got a song in mind for that one …

  49. It isn’t irrelevant that McCain said it too. Sexist behavior is sexist behavior. That said, when I look at behavior I look at the total package. At the end of the day, McCain chose the woman for his ticket(albeit a woman who his party agrees with), Barack didn’t(because he is a rock star and doesn’t need the Hillary base).

  50. Obama is so arrogant and vain that he can not admit that he was wrong. It took him a while to acknowledge that his “bitter” and “clinging” comments might have been inappropriate, too. And they turned into a bigger scandal that they would have it if he just owned up to it right away. Hillary learned this the hard way herself. That Bosnia sniper-fire nonsense should have been put to rest sooner than it was (okay, the media didn’t help: Matthews talked about it for about three weeks.) But she quickly went into damage control over the RFK remark. Now that I think about it…bad example. She was still accused of plotting Obama’s assassination. Too bad she had no friends in the media. Nevermind, stay right on track Obama. It’s working out for you really well.

  51. when we stare down the mouth of the cannon and refuse to blink.

    This is our moment, this is our time standing in front of the tank.

    YES!!!!!! PREACH IT, JANIS!!!! I refuse to be threatened with Roe ANY MORE. I’m DONE, you hear me Dems? You hear me Republicans? Pull that trigger if you dare, and unleash the shitstorm. Go ahead. Make my day.

  52. Madamab,
    remember that “list of things I learned in kindgergarten”
    that was so popular years ago? About learning to play well with others, and all?
    Seems like Obama should have it up in his office
    (wherever that is).

  53. angelasmith – Yes! But I don’t want to blame his parents/grandparents. Seems he does enough of that for the entire male sex! You’re 47 years old, Obama – GET OVER IT and take some responsibility for yourself!

  54. witness08, you made my day with that bit of polling news.

  55. One characteristic of a narcissist is never being able to admit they are wrong or apologize for anything. I know. I lived with one for 18 years. So now BO is claiming his “lipstick on a pig” remark was a reference to McCain’s economic policies. Just like he wasn’t wrong about the success of the Surge, etc.

    Tell us, BO, does the McCain/Palin economic policy–you know, that pig with the lipstick–really stink like fish or is it “likeable enough” when, you know, that “moose shooter” is not feeling “periodically down”?

  56. sorry – meant to close my bold tag. Sheesh.

  57. Oh, Obama is to blame for Obama. Free will and all.
    He chose to be the wanker he is. No doubt about that.

  58. I don’t think Obama holds women in disdain but I don’t believe he is above using them or their issues or throwing them under the bus if that is what is politically convenient. At the end of the day I am not voting for the guy who didn’t even bother to look at the resume of someone who had 18,000,000 votes and a solid base following or someone who votes present because it is the strategic choice. Just not gonna do it.

  59. Damn, you’re good, madamab! Ouch!

    Even my 2 1/2 yr. old knows to say “Dorry” when he hurts someone. And both my kids know that I really get pissed when they *deny* doing something wrong, especially after being caught in the act.

    Obama is “a national embarassment.”

    [Hope you had a wonderful birthday, by the way!]

  60. CWaltz – Wouldn’t be prudent – not at this juncture!

    (Yes, I’m showing my age. :-) )

  61. Obama supporters are complaining because the press took his remark as directed at Sarah Palin, yet according to the DUmp, that’s exactly what THEY thought. I did some DUmpster Diving and found a graphic a DUer put up of a pig with Palin’s face.

    Mountain Sage

  62. The Obama campaign has asked Michigan democrat governor Granholm (a woman) to spend four days with Joe Biden doing practice debate sessions. They want to get him ready before he faces Palin for the real debate on Oct. 2.

    Will 4 days be enough to make him gaffe free?

  63. sod, love it!

  64. Thanks, Jules! :-)

  65. Dave, you know Bush has never admitted any mistakes either.

  66. umm can somebody please talk to “God” on the previous post?
    tx in advance.

  67. SOD and Mountain Sage – GREAT!

  68. Seems like Obama is definitely up to 100 problems now. 99 + 1.

  69. jules, it’s not just kids. Any idiot who has ever been in a relationship knows that sometimes, even IF you didn’t mean it that way, and even IF the other person took offense wrongly, you still have to be gracious if you want to salvage the relationship.

    You are allowed to point out that you of course meant no offense. But what you do NOT do is then launch into a long diatribe about how justified you are, and how stupid THEY are for taking it “the wrong way”.

    Again, see how Hillary managed the r@cist smears on her. Class and graciousness personified. The point in politics is to tamp down the problem, NOT to further enrage those who are feeling insulted whether they are right or not.

    Obama’s ego will not let him do that. He just cannot resist spending 4 times as much time justifying himself as he does “apologizing”. Narcissist in action, baby.

  70. Mawm – LOL!

    That song should say “And a pig ain’t one.”

  71. gary, madama?
    who’s got the trollbegone?

  72. WMCB, tell that to gary.

  73. catarina, where are they?

  74. Mawm, you make an excellent point.

    Although I think canning Rumsfeld was a tacit admission (took long enough!), Bush never came out in public and said, “I screwed up.” I think his particular inability to admit mistakes is not so much attributable to narcissism (because he doesn’t meet most of the other DSM IV criteria) as it is to his own inability to do any sort of self-reflection at all. I don’t think Bush suffers from the same megalomania as Obama does. Bush actually believes he is doing God’s will.

  75. Joy Behar from the view went on and on on Larry King last night raking Palin. Her and the other female Obamabots on the show constant references to abortion was standard fare; but the highlight was when they starting claiming Palin cut funding for disabled kids in the Alaska school system whereas she has tripled it. You can put lipstick on a Obamabot, and its still a Obamabot.

  76. god is at the end of last thread.
    i think he meant to say “im as dumb as a post..”

  77. Prepare to be outraged again

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080909/sc_livescience/bossgendercanaffectworkersstress

    I wish schleps like these would just shut the F- up. First, she’s to feminine because she cries and shows cleavage and now they want to rewrite history to say that she lost because she “acted like a man.” Pulease. Since when is being a competent and capable leader a “male thing” I wish had an email for these putzes. Hillary lost because the DNC power structure rigged the game outcome. It had nothing to do with HER actions.

  78. Obama appears to have a problem with his internal censorship. As a politician he should know that some things are just out of bounds. As a “Democrat” sexism should always be out of bounds. You marry these too problems together and you get the “sexist gaffe machine” that is Obama. You marry him with Biden who has a gaffe problem of his own and you get a democratic nightmare come the GE. At this point the question is not if Obama will win, it is how much will he lose by.

    As always another stellar post Madamab!

  79. Take a good look at his hand on his forehead, did he give the finger again….

  80. Marie – Any woman who doesn’t recognize Obama’s sexism should just turn in her v*gin* now. Come on, we had 18 months of it towards Hillary and now he’s doing the same thing to Sarah Palin! How can you not recognize that pattern?

    I wonder if these Obamabot women on TV are being threatened with losing their jobs if they don’t support The One? That seems to be Obama’s S.O.P.

  81. This comment may never make it out of spam or moderater.I gleefully look forward to Mccain/Palin win.Although I will have to suffer along with everybody else I will be ROFL at what happens.People get the leaders they deserve

  82. Janis…whoever you are, you have a wonderful grasp of the situation…and a marvelous way of putting it out there. Thanks!

    You are in good company here on The Confluence with our astounding ‘front pagers.’

  83. How many times did Hillary apologize for things she said that were not offensive and not racist, but the obliging media took her statements out of context, blew them up into a big deal, Obama obliged by condemning Hillary as well, and boom, we were given the whole RFK flap to name just one. So CryBabyBama, MAN UP, for g-d’s sake, and apologize! Hillary did it over and over and over for you and your snot nosed thug supporters who were crying racist, racist all damn day long! Women need to strike while our Iron is Hot! Now is our chance to get a woman into the White House and get the Obama – George Soros Socialist Democratic party destroyed, dismantled, whatever it takes so Hillary has a chance in 2012. If 90% of AA’s can vote for Obama, 90% of women can vote for Sarah Palin and show those stupid, sexist idiots at the DNC that OUR VOTES BELONG TO US! Don’t take us for granted – ever!

  84. It’s too late to apologize:

  85. I don’t think it is JUST Obama. This is top down misogyny and I am glad this cycle has shown us that we have allowed the Democratic party to walk all over women.

  86. Jazzfan

    I’m not gleefully looking forward to anyone suffering. I don’t see a way around it this cycle though.

    Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do at this juncture about the LEADERSHIP that decided this primary season. Needless to say, I don’t “deserve” them and I will be doing everything in my power to ensure that they aren’t put in charge of anything more taxing than a kid’s birthday party in the future.

  87. PUMA-SF – Love that video!

  88. Puma-SF — Ooo, you jogged my memory, and I feel a song coming on . . . Adapted from Santana:

    [He’s] Not There

    No one told me about him, the way he lied.
    Well, no one told me about him, how many people cried.
    But it’s too late to say you’re sorry.
    How would I know, why should I care?
    Please, don’t bother tryin’ to find him,
    he’s not there. . . .

    Well, let me tell you ’bout the way he looks,
    the way he acted, the color of his hair.
    His voice was soft and cool,
    His eyes were clear and bright but he’s not there.

  89. Does Obama hold women in distain? Do bears shit in the woods? Lipstick on a pig??? Did he really think we would not see through that stupid attempt to be cute AND to call Sarah Palin a pig? Didn’t he say “words count”.? Well, where were his words when they, the Obamabots and the media were skewering Hillary with the worst sexist attacks I have ever witnessed? Well, I guess it was working for him then. He was then so threatened by a strong woman that he PASSED ON HILLARY AND 18 MILLION VOTES to keep his fragile ego intact.
    Now, enter the rest of the Obama supporters to tell us what issues are “relevant “and which ones are “serious”. And guess what. It ain’t women. and it ain’t sexism. And to object to the latest sexist slander is just creating a “distraction”.
    So, Obamabots, do not be telling me that I should get on board with the issues that YOU deam to be relevant. Do not be trying to threaten me with Roe vs Wade. Do not be telling me that the golden one is anything but the usual self absorbed egotistical common garden variety misogynist that he has proved himself to be.
    AND do not be telling me that I should vote for him.
    Ain’t going to happen.

  90. Obama wasn’t wrong to listen to Wright for 20 years. The fault was Wright’s.

    Obama wasn’t wrong to align himself with Pfleger. The fault was Pfleger’s.

    Obama wasn’t wrong to say that small-town Americans ling to guns and religion. The fault was theirs for not understanding him.

    Obama hasn’t changed his mind on any issue since June 3rd. The fault is with all those people who weren’t listening to him all along.

    Obama didn’t call Sarah Palin a pig with lipstick. The fault lies with the Republicans, who are just out to get him.

  91. Lady Boomer: Please see my comment back on your thread.

    No offense was intended by going off-topic.

    Thanks,
    Fredster

  92. Bwakkk, that photo! Love it love it love it.

    Don’t forget to make your noms for this week’s Tweety award. I already suggested bambi for misogynist of the week.

    Here: http://www.partizane.com

    Then click on the Tweety icon, near-to-right side of the home page.

  93. DYB – Did you channel into a troll’s mind and post its thoughts directly onto this blog?

    Spoooooky!!!!

  94. Yes, that video is unbelieable. I ran into it last night and could barely sleep. I’ve been singing that sone all day.

    Lady Boom: good job with your song. I’m crazy about it.

  95. I’m gonna be roaring this election cycle. My vote will be a loud and clear shot across the bow to the Democratic party. “I’m done with making do with crumbs you throw my way, boys. I’m done being the “good” girl and allowing you to use me and women’s issues. i’m tired of being trotted out every four years to vote party because you are better than them by the bare minimum you can manage and watching you pander to the bubbas by trading away my rights. I’m tired of taking one for the team and I am not GETTING OVER IT.”

  96. Interesting message of hope, change and unity from Brock Obama: insinuating a fellow candidate for office is a pig and a smelly fish. All class as usual.

    In gayspeak, ‘fish’ is a derogatory term for a woman. What immediately came to mind when I heard this is that perhaps the rumors from Larry Sinclair and others in the tabloids about The Precious One’s . . . um . . . past naughty activities, shall we say . . . aren’t as far-fetched as some may think. He’s certainly got the lingo down.

    Hopefully, this will be his Macaca moment.

  97. Here’s the letter from Marcia Pappas at NOW that someone mentioned upthread (angelasmith)?

    Marcia At Alegre’s Corner

  98. To all the trolls that are equated what Obama said to the innocuous things Hillary said during the primary which were later twisted around by Obama campaign, here is how this situation is different.

    Everyone in the nation has been repeating the “lipstick” comment by Palin, so it is definitely in the zeitgeist. When McCain or other politicians have used the expression before this was not the case. The expression by itself is not sexist.
    Obviously everyone in his audience understood that he was making a joke about the lipstick comment, therefore equating Palin to a pig. Why did the audience get the joke, if what you are saying is true and this is faux outrage.
    Also, why did Biden make a joke using lipstick the very same day?

  99. “Any woman who doesn’t recognize Obama’s sexism should just turn in her v*gin* now. ”

    That is good!!!!

  100. Mawm @ 2:41, LOL! Yes, but you love him, no matter how infuriating at times. :)

  101. McCain supporter calls Obama a fifth grader
    by Mosheh Oinounou
    FAIRFAX, VA — Former Hillary Clinton supporter turned McCain voter Lynette Long trashed Democrats as sexists during introductory remarks at the McCain rally here.

    She was also the only speaker at the rally to specifically slam Obama for his much talked about “lipstick on a pig” line which Republicans are construing as a direct attack on Sarah Palin.

    “Yesterday, I understand Senator Obama personally said, ‘you can put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig,’” she said to boos from the tens of thousands of supporters in the crowd. “Well Mr. Obama, Mr. Obama, calling girls names is something you do in fifth grade and I don’t want a fifth grader running my country.”

  102. madamab at 3:04
    yes, that’s it!

  103. Another note to the trolls. This is not a free and open forum. This is a safe haven for PUMA voters.

    The fact that 6 tolls have descended on this site at the same time is very suspicious. Could it be that Obama campaign’s paid bloggers are worried about the female vote, and his latest sexist remarks are causing them worry?

  104. Mawm, on September 10th, 2008 at 2:37 pm Said:

    Seems like Obama is definitely up to 100 problems now. 99 + 1.

    ====================

    Hee!

  105. Mawm – Are you smelling Obaman flop sweat?

    I sure am.

    (What is with that devil post? Yeeesh.)

  106. I find Team Obama’s ‘lipstick’ defense disingenuous, given that the official Democratic web site expressly applies ‘lipstick on a pig’ to the selection of Palin.

  107. ” “Yesterday, I understand Senator Obama personally said, ‘you can put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig,’” she said to boos from the tens of thousands of supporters in the crowd. “Well Mr. Obama, Mr. Obama, calling girls names is something you do in fifth grade and I don’t want a fifth grader running my country.” ”

    LOL. Oh, that’s good! That’s real good!

    Thanks for sharing that, angelasmith.

  108. Here is a Lipstick on a Pig blog I found on the Dem Party website dated before Obama made his comment. It features the picture of a pig dressed up with glasses and lipstick and pearls (if it doesn’t get taken down which I suspect it shortly will):

    http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/elizabethberry/Cgsq

  109. From Politico:

    “By significant margins, Europeans have high hopes for a potential Obama administration, according to a Transatlantic Trends poll of 12 European countries.

    Forty-seven percent of Europeans believe an Obama victory in November would lead to a better relationship between the United States and Europe, versus just 5 percent who think Obama would weaken the trans-Atlantic relationship.”

    Since when do Europeans get to vote for the President of the USA? Why would anyone think that we should vote for this country’s president based on what Europeans think?

    I just don’t get the Obamabot msm.

  110. Hannity says that Dems are quietly telling him that they should have nominated Clinton.

    Gee whiz, who could have had that idea first?

  111. Hey NewOrleans,
    I thought that summed up the Junior Senator very nicely!

  112. Marie, Thanks for that. I screen grabbed it. What a bunch of lying hypocrites they are.

    FLVoter, why do we need a better relationship with Europe anyway?

  113. LOL! Excellent post!!!

    What else could we expect from Barry though?

    Nobama, not now, not ever!!!

  114. if 47 percent of europeans think obama would help relations, that leaves 53 percent who do not think so, no?

  115. Rassmussen has McCain and Obama 46% to 46%, 47% to 48% respectively with leaners included.

  116. Regency – LOL! Yes, where did they get that idea? Could it be the 20-point swing to McCain among white women?

    How many brick walls does it take?

  117. Middle America couldn’t care less about Europe. How many of them actually get to visit? Funny how Iran and Hamas are counting on Barry toooo!

  118. angelasmith – Shhhh. Girls aren’t good at math. Obama told me so!

  119. JVSP: But aren’t you embarrassed when you take your kids to France for vacation and they don’t speak the language. The horror!

  120. Madamab: Depends. How many brick walls are there in a White House?

  121. Regency, on September 10th, 2008 at 3:22 pm Said:
    Hannity says that Dems are quietly telling him that they should have nominated Clinton.

    Gee whiz, who could have had that idea first?

    ———————————————–

    No s*** Sherlock. What idiots.

  122. FLVoter, on September 10th, 2008 at 3:20 pm Said:
    From Politico:

    Since when do Europeans get to vote for the President of the USA? Why would anyone think that we should vote for this country’s president based on what Europeans think?

    =====================

    On the last thread, I posted about a BBC radio piece that took me aback today. It was about the lipstick fiasco and it was so pro-BO I kind of slid back in my chair in surprise. Not even a pretense of trying to make a show of pretending to be a sort of kind of wee mite of journalism.

    Given the influence of US political and economic policy, I have no problem with international voices weighing in, certainly on perceptions about ties with the US.

    OTOH, I’m seeing a trend here. It’s like we’re getting a two-tiered electoral system here. The people who are allowed to decide who our elected officials are:

    Disney, Viacom, Time-Warner
    people who go to Ivy League schools
    Olbermann and Matthews
    beautiful people who shop at Whole Foods
    people under 35
    Europeans
    people in cities, especially coastal cities
    people who drive hybrids
    feminists who hate women who run for office
    Obama Girl
    people who describe themselves with the prefix “post”
    anyone who loves a good waffle
    people who only eat meat created by magical elves

    And the rest of the country? Why are we interfering with democracy, anyhow?

  123. I lived in Eurpoe for two years. They do not hate America, but they are jealous of our success, and really don’t want us to be the leader in the world anymore, so I wouldn’t listen to them in trying to make your decision about who to vote for.

  124. Regency
    “But aren’t you embarrassed when you take your kids to France for vacation and they don’t speak the language. The horror!”

    Oh, If only we were more “cosmopolitan”!

  125. alice, Obama girl is allowed, but she failed to vote in the primary. Maybe she will weigh in this November.

  126. Mawm – That is absolutely true about Europe – I’ve experienced the same thing when living with a French family in high school.

    Plus, their press is almost as bad as ours. It’s all co-opted by the global corporations. The people of Europe do not feel the way the press is saying they do.

  127. Barry is addicted to a certainly level of attention .This is the most attention he has gotten since Palin was picked. I think we will see more such ” gaffes” , he can’t help himself!

    Whenever obots tell me Dems MUST win!!!! I ask then why is Hillary Clinton not somewhere on the ticket? Does a party that puts this ticket together seem to want to win?

    We tried to tell them

  128. FOX is hitting CNN hard on their atrocious bias. Front page now that CNN showed the fake bikini photo, and neglected to tell viewers it was a FAKE.

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/cnn-reports-palin-bikini-photo-but-fails-to-tell-viewers-its-a-fake/

  129. The other half of Europe that hasn’t weighed in on Barry’s side are probably in the former East Bloc. Imagine O facing down Putin.

    As for the French, they are only too happy if one just tries to speak the language. They were very kind to me.

  130. New post up by Garychapelhill!!!

  131. Besides the specious poll, isn’t it a bit ethnocentric to just be checking out what the EU members think?

    I mean, come on Obambi’s popularity spreads farther than that.

    There’s other countries/groups/leaders who love them some Obama
    (and I promise to spell almost every name wrong)

    Quaddafi
    North Korea
    Hammas
    Jimmy Carter (heh heh)
    Has Putin weighed in yet?

  132. The South Carolina Dem Chairman, Carol Fowler (is that a relation to the other Fowler???) has said: “McCain has chosen a running mate whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.” Saw this reported on FOX, fist reported by Politico. Seems the Dems and BO just keep on digging a deeper hole!!!!

  133. The story is ridiculous because Obama of course never compared Palin to a pig (he was referring to McCain’s policies). She has compared herself to a pit bull with lipstick, but let’s hope Obama never agrees with her–otherwise the “Palin Truth Squad” (as if that’s not an oxymoron) will be accusing him of calling her a bitch (you know, breeders call a female pit bull a …).

    John McCain used exactly the same phrase last October when talking about a health plan proposed by Hillary Clinton last October. So should we assume that the McCain camp thinks Obama was referring to Palin because that’s what McCain meant about Clinton?

    Furthermore, the term is the title of a book written more than two years ago by Torie Clarke, one of McCain’s former female advisors and a Pentagon communications director–another of those Bush-McCain connections the campaign would now like you to forget.

    Interestingly, the McCain camps complaints also more insulting to Palin than Obama’s comments were, demonstrating the problem conservatives often have in dealing with women. They can’t even decide if their own vice presidential candidate is a “pit bull” ready for prime-time politics, or a “pretty little lady” beauty queen who needs to be protected as if she were some Victorian-era teen-age wife (and you’ll notice that we haven’t heard her take on the whole issue).

    The subtleties of most real women, who fall between the conservative archtypes wrapped in leather and lace, escape the GOP attack dogs. Besides, isn’t it conservatives who are always whining that liberals are “too sensitive” about language and prone to take things out of context?

    With how the selection of Palin has energized the Republican base, it briefly appeared that McCain may have managed to make a silk purse out of the sow’s ear that is his campaign. But he obviously still is not very confident, since when it comes to sad and desperate negative campaigning, his campaign is going whole hog. When will the McCain folks start focusing on issues? I suspect we all know the answer to that: when pigs fly.

  134. james
    A cut-n-paste troll

  135. “The fact that 6 tolls have descended on this site at the same time is very suspicious. Could it be that Obama campaign’s paid bloggers are worried about the female vote, and his latest sexist remarks are causing them worry?”

    As my moniker would suggest, I mainly go to right of center blogs.

    The same thing with the trolls and the astroturfers is going on over there as well.

    Don’t really know what they’re trying to accomplish- these obamadrones are pretty easy to spot wherever they show up, and generally do nothing but anger people on the blogs- as they’re doing here.

  136. I love Sally Puma! Can I use w/ h/t?

  137. “John McCain used exactly the same phrase last October when talking about a health plan proposed by Hillary Clinton last October. So should we assume that the McCain camp thinks Obama was referring to Palin because that’s what McCain meant about Clinton?”

    Huh, I’ve seen this identical argument on about 5 or so blogs today, and all by trolls.

    I’m wondering- if McCain had offended Hillary at the time when he said this, would not Hillary have spoken up- either privately to McCain, or publicly?

    As the two of them seem friendly to this day, it would appear this troll argument is somewhat bogus. Oh well, looks like axelrod needs a new line.

  138. This is a fabulous, madamab.

    And yes, the Obamatrolls are out in force. Have been fending them off at Heidi Li’s Potpourri.

    Oh, this reminds me – am about to set up blogroll on new version – and The Confluence will be prominently listed.

  139. honestly, Obots are so dysfunctional that they must be thinking they are talking to family members when they come here to make their point!

    you know, the tried and true hallmarks of the dysfunctional family
    1) that’s NOT what I said, that’s what you heard
    2) projection
    3) diversion
    4) bald face lies and questioning your sanity if you don’t buy the lie they are telling

    it’s why there is such a disconnect between Obots and the REST of the democratic party

  140. I was wondering who Ozero would send out to attack Sarah Palin today. Looks like he sent out South Carolina Democratic Chairwoman, Carol Fowler.

    CAROL FOWLER:

    Palin’s “primary qualification is that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

    Does Obama really think he is going to win support from female voters by having his surrogates say such BS about Sarah Palin?

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Fowler_on_Palins_qualifications.html?showall

    South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate ” whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

    Told of McCain’s boost in the new ABC/Washington Post among white women following the Palin pick, Fowler said: “Just anecdotally, I believe that those white women are Republican women anyway.”

    NOTE:
    CAROL FOWLER is the wife of DON FOWLER, the backstabbing DNC man that chuckled at the possibility of Hurricane Gustav hitting New Orleans. What a bunch of low class A-holes!

    The implosion of Obama and the DNC elite is nearly compete!

    McCain-Palin ’08
    Hillary ’12

  141. Oh Carol Fowler needs to have her damn mouth washed out with soap.

  142. Iron Man, WOW. I am staunchly prochoice, and though I defend Palin against sexism, I am not planning to vote for the ticket. But WOW, that comment was offensive to the extreme…the Dems keep this crap up, women like me will go out and vote for Palin in droves. Just what the hell has Carol Fowler done for anybody anyways. Wow….just wait until the right gets a hold of that disgusting comment.

  143. Doncha think signs at McCain rallies that say “McCain-Man Enough to Pick a Woman’ might drive Obama over the edge? I know, I’m evil.

  144. Both Fowlers’ comments are outrageous. They only strengthen my resolve to not vote Democratic.

  145. a rightish visitor – John McCain DID use the term Lipstick on a pig but he used it in context of Pork Barrel Spending programs and not about Hillary OR her healthcare plan.

    The Obamaniacs can protest all they want but if you listen to the speech, the crowd is chanting “NO MORE PITBULLS” apparently, they got the reference.

    Obama is coming unglued, even WITH a teleprompter he can’t deliver a punchline, it sounded like somebody dropping a sack of potatoes.

  146. alice,

    I’m a beautiful person who shops at Whole Foods, is in love with a European, lives in a coastal city in a blue state, and drives a hybrid. And I STILL say no to Obama! :-)

    I sure as hell see your point, though. I’m surrounded by hyperentitled Obots.

  147. Who says we’d have a worse relationship with Europe with a President McCain? I don’t see the logic.

  148. Please bear with me in this somewhat technical discussion. I’ve been trying to find a reasonable way to understand BO, in the context of his denials, flip-flops and overt hostility toward those who challenge him.

    “There is no experience to which a young child can be subjected that is more prone to elicit intense and violent hatred for the mother than that of separation.” — John Bowlby, Attachment and Loss.

    Sound like anything or anyone we have been talking about, especially today?

    Psychotherapist Stephen Johnson talks about The Used Child: The Narcissistic Experience. — The injury (for such a person) is a deep wound to the experience of the real self. In the more extreme cases of narcissistic disorder, the injury is so deep and the compensations so tight that the person has no residual experience or comprehension of the real self . . . Even though narcissism comes from the Greek myth superficially understood to represent self-love, exactly the opposite is true in the narcissistic personality disorder, character neurosis or style. The narcissist has buried his true self-expression in response to early injuries and replaced it with a highly developed, compensatory false self.”

    Johnson lists expressions of narcissism under three headings (Kohut’s concepts):

    1. The False Self (what the person experiences and shows to others).
    Reliance on achievement
    Perfectionism
    Grandiosity-omnipotence
    Pride
    Entitlement
    Self-involvement
    Manipulation and objectification of others

    2. The Symptomatic Self (the internal experience of the false self at times when the False Self fails)
    Vulnerable to shame, humiliation
    Hypochondriacal, psychosomatic
    Worthlessness, self-deprecation
    Isolation, loneliness
    Depression, inertia, work inhibition

    3. The Real Self (underlying it all, not often perceived, but always there)
    Feelings of emptiness, void, panic with enfeeblement and fragmentation of the self
    Feelings of rage and hurt at the empathic failures of demands for merger, mirroring and twinship (I’m like you really)
    Searching for innate capacities, identification, ambitions and ideals (the eternal search for self)

    In terms of psychotherapeutic objectives, “the healing of narcissism involves the ‘decision to grow up’ — a decision to mature with respect to those infantile issues at which one is quite literally arrested . . . ‘My way, right or wrong,’ is the infantile demand . . . The task of growing up is formidable . . . (getting to the point where) . . . the narcissist accepts his essential humanity and finally lets in what he has always wanted — the love and acceptance that only other people can provide.”

    This is offered only as food for thought, not as a diagnosis. For me it helps me understand how the DNC were able to flatter BO into the nomination and why now that things are not going so well we are seeing a much changed persona (false self) in the attacks and stammerings.

    The final piece of the puzzle for me is BO’s “search for the father” (see Robert Bly’s wonderful prose poem, Finding the Father — http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/4657/poetry/memory/bly/finding.html). Frank, Jeremiah Wright, Father Pflager, Ayers, and even in a sort of perverse way Bill Clinton seem to draw BO strongly, out of his narcissistic injury.)

    Sorry for getting so serious, but this helps me rationalize why I cannot support BO for President. It might have been that over time there could have been some coming to terms with the real self (maturity) but he has never allowed this to happen. I do not want my president searching for “the father” while governing our precious democracy.

  149. Gordon – Thank you for the essay, very informative.

    However, we don’t really care to analyze WHY the guy is what he is, merely to identify what he is.

    What he is, is NOT READY for PRIMETIME and probably never will be. Obama lacks CLASS.

  150. Oh, look. James McPherson is here to instruct us on the “subtleties” of real women. I’m sure we will find it equal in value to the post the guys at Buzzflash did defining what is and is not sexist. I just can’t express how appreciative we little wimmen are for your help, but I’m not buying the pig in a poke the Obama campaign is trying to sell.

    The truth is Obama is a cowardly little ass who hates women. I used to think it was just old white women, but then I learned it was an older black woman who had her walker taken from her so that she could not caucus for Hillary. I then thought it was just older women he hated, but his behavior toward Sarah Palin, who is younger than he, disproves that theory. He just hates women, especially any woman who is standing between him and something he wants.

    He’s a coward because he always delivers his insults in such a way that he can then deny having done it. What? The finger? No. You women are just imagining things. Intimating Sarah Palin is a pig? No. Wahhh. John McCain is swiftboating me. Newsflash, Obama. If it’s true, it ain’t swiftboating. In the context of all the publicity about Palin’s pitbull/lipstick remarks, everybody knew he meant Palin — we knew it, his audience knew it, and even his apologists in the OMSM know it. And just in case anyone anywhere was too thick to recognize the insult, he threw the fish comment in just to make sure. What a jerk. Howard Dean thought this guy was worth stealing the nomination for?

    The only thing that is making this bearable is the thought that after all these years of despising Joe Biden for the way Anita Hill was treated, I will actually now get to cast a meaningful vote against him. So whoever it is on this site that keeps talking about Biden being dropped from the ticket, cut it out!

  151. The only Democrat that is happy about Obama’s Lipstick gaffe is Joe (plugs) Biden. Biden was at a rally in Missourri yesterday and attending was State Senator Chuck Graham, Biden called on Graham to “stand up and take a bow”. Unfortunately, Chuck Graham is wheelchair bound and was unable to comply.

    The VP selection is another example of Obama’s LACK of judgement and expirience, not to mention NO CLASS!

  152. Biden bows to Clinton

    Biden, today in Nashua, NH, in response to an inaudible question from an audience member:

    “Make no mistake about it Hillary Clinton is as qualified as or more qualified than I am” to be vice president, Biden said. “And quite frankly, she may have been a better pick than me.”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Biden_bows_to_Clinton_.html

    ya think!

  153. Oh goodness. I will say from the start I am a McCain supporter BUT I will also say that I feel the Democrat party would have been SO much better off with Hilary as their candidate. Good god at least she has some class and does not come off as someone who should beon the Jerry Springer show instead of the White House (Obama). Seiously if I had to vote Democrat I would in a heart beat vote for Hilary over this Chicago hustler. I could trust Hilary to defend this country also. I could not trust Obama in that regard !

  154. gordon in kansas – thanks for your post. I was thinking along the same lines. I’ve actually spent the past 2 years studying up on narcissism because I have a narcissistic family member. My interest in Narcissists is all about how to identify them, outpace them and survive them. Here’s a great article on narcissists ‘in high places.’ Actually I think the article falls off a little when it gets anecdotal but the first part is the great part:

    http://www.narcissism.operationdoubles.com/narcissism_in_high_places.htm

    And if anyone wants to know more about how someone who is not just a vain, egotistical, self-absorbed gasbag like many politicians, but who has a real narcissistic pathology behaves, this is a good read:

    http://www.narcissism.operationdoubles.com/npd_site_content.htm

  155. OMG I was totally yelling at my TV this morning when I heard about this lipstick thing. He is complaining about them doing EXACTLY what he did to Hillary and Bill and Geraldine and Tavis during the primary!!!!! Fake outrage INDEED !!!!!!! UGH!

  156. I like the little avatar/icon thingys, are those new?

  157. Let’s say he didn’t mean it “that way” then why didn’t he say something when all the people he was speaking too clearly took it to mean to be about Palin? Especially given that he never said a peep while the rampant misogyny in the media was going on that he benefited from against Hillary?

    It could have been the perfect moment for him to step up to the plate. To quiet the crowd, to admonish them for laughing at his “mistake” Noooo, he’s not that dumb. He knew, he can do as he always does and say it was a “mistake” but, yet he let it sink into the crowd, used their laughter at his “cleverness” to make them all happy with him because we all know the gloves are off on misogyny this season. Liberal or conservative, it’s bash the woman with any vile thing you like season.

    Anyone who can think logically can see he had full opportunity to correct his “mistake” in exactly that moment and not later when he can use it to make himself appear to be “rising above it all” once again.

    This entire play is old. I’ve read it and it was insulting, trite, adolescent and boring the first time. Now it’s just insulting and nothing else. The Obama campaign, fit for Maxium Mag and then the bottom of the bird cage.

  158. Do you think McCain picked Palin because he wants
    to work with her on significant legislation? Perhaps
    he could mention some of the legislation he’d like
    to see. I think it’s pretty clear that he chose her to
    collect some PUMAs, gin up the PR machine, start some buzz on “talking head” shows, etc. He met with
    her twice. Did they discuss specifics about how to address the inequities in health care and the coming
    financial disasters? Did they discuss family values?
    I watched the Republican convention hoping that we’d
    have two good tickets and have to decide between
    good and better. What I heard was “Drill, baby, drill.”
    What shallow drivel. As for my thirty plus years in the Republican party, I am “Gone, baby,’ gone.”

  159. @ Linda….ya your a bright one…”gone baby gone” if you don’t vote consider that a vote for Obama, and if he’s yur next President don’t you dare complain…taliking cutting ones nose off to spite their face.

  160. Linda – If you are a 30 year + Republican, then the sky is green and my name is Ralph.

    You can come in here and have opposing viewpoints but don’t come here and pretend you are something you’re not to try to impress us.

    BS!

  161. Madamab—-love this open letter. I’ve been laughing myself silly.

  162. hmmm well IMHO I do beleive the Senator has a demographic bias that looks like mama and what I’m not sure of is why other Dem elected officals are not calling he and Biden on flagrant bigotry. this si killing the down tickets, the Clinton type candidate running in my District favored to win wrong now

  163. Wonderful, MadamaB. I hear Obama’s non apology on my way to work today. He is a disgusting creep! I’d like to slap him and every person in the audience who laughed at his snotty remarks. He’s destroying his own campaign, and he’s oblivious to what he’s doing.

  164. I had to walk away from CNN tonight. Campbell Brown and company (including that luminary Brazile) were all up in arms, trying to defend BO’s comments. They were comparing BO’s use of the phrase with McCain’s, without putting them into relative contents. Going after Palin for comment she made regarding HRC’s complaints back in the Spring – never acknowledging that the HRC complaints were valid and they (CNN and the DNC) did nothing about it then.

    Brown should just place an Obama bumper sticker on her forhead before going on air. To think I used to like her when she was on the Weekend Today Show.

  165. Perries, thanks for the links to the narcissistic personality disorder information. It’s so difficult to live with these folks — never a dull moment. They can suck the life out of you. But down deep they have been badly wounded. Best to you in your family dynamics.

  166. I finally watched the youtube on the lipstick clip tonight and am I crazy but what I was shocked by was how much his presentation has deteriorated since March. I admit that I have barely watched him, just read about him, since the Ohio primary and the debate just before. I can’t believe how hard it is for him to get a complete sentence out of his mouth. I don’t think I can watch the debates. this is going to be Stockdale level embarrassing.

  167. Obama is toast, and he needs to leave the ticket ASAP so there’s a chance to nominate Hillary — if she’d even agree to it now. THe Repubs have the story that he’s not eligible, but they don’t want it to break until late October — when it will have max neg.l affect on other Dems as well (they’re the Super Dels who supported him in Denver) — that’s why this story needs to get out — maybe in college newspapers if MSM won’t cover it:

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/philip-j-berg-obama-not-qualified-lawsuit-federal-court-obama-not-us-citizen-latest-docket-entries-answer-due-9242008/

  168. mambopurr:

    “The Obamaniacs can protest all they want but if you listen to the speech, the crowd is chanting “NO MORE PITBULLS” apparently, they got the reference.”

    Nice catch, didn’t hear/see that. Will have to go look again.

    Dang, y’all are sharp around here.

  169. Someone (a Townhall columnist) said she thought he was tired and running on fumes. I truly think he is just melting down (just like all the Dem partisans are). They did not expect, and have no idea how to battle the Palin Effect.

  170. Guys this election is over with Obama’s “Macaca” moment.

    You would think that Dems would learn from Republican mistakes–ESPECIALLY since a certrain senator lost his seat AND potential presidential run from a careless remark just 2 years ago..

    I’m sure a Mr. Allen from VA is snickering right now.

  171. I forgot to watch Letterman tonight–did anyone see Obama talking about the lipstick/pig kerfuffle?

    I read that he said that McCain’s policies were the pig and Palin was the lipstick. What is it called when a woman is referred to as just one part of her whole self? Objectifying?

    Senator, there’s this advice about when you’re in a hole– to stop digging is a good idea.

    Why not just say the audience took a common metaphor and reacted to it in a way he had not meant–and he hadn’t realized what the laughter was about until later. Might make him seem kinda dim, but at least he could start getting away from the thought he did it deliberately (which I think he did).

    I read somewhere today that inside the Obama campaign they call Palin “Lipstick,” so, yeah, I do so believe Obama did it deliberately.

    The standard bearer doesn’t do that kind of attack–but he seems to unable to stop.

    I wonder how the campaign insiders referred to Hillary….? Or still refer to her?

    OMG, Obama’s on right now with Letterman, talking about walking his daughter to start 5th grade. Saying he grandmother is sharp as a tack, but has subdued Midwestern take on things. When he made his acceptance speech, she called and said it was nice. I missed anything about lipstick….

  172. http://wcbstv.com/campaign08/barack.obama.david.2.814491.html

    LInk for article with some of the Obama-Letterman badinage.

    Read and weep.

  173. “You are allowed to point out that you of course meant no offense. But what you do NOT do is then launch into a long diatribe about how justified you are, and how stupid THEY are for taking it “the wrong way”.

    Oh but, WMCB, you DO this if you are a malignant pathological narcissist. This is quite typical in fact. You do things, and it’s always, always the other person who is at fault, who took it “wrongly” who is “stupidly ATTACKING ME!” He is so transparent. He is a textbook narcissistic personality disordered male with a capital N. I’ve seen it in him from day one. The charm the masses thing fit right in with the rest of it. The smooooooth liar with no substance and all the rest. Blame the victim, the good guy gets to wear the black hat and the bad guy wears the white one. They are very, very adept at this and very, very convincing while they talk. It’s all a big lie of course because a narcissist IS a lie. There truly IS NO there, there.

    For interesting reading, try going to operation doubles sometime and read the articles on pathological narcissism there. They are easy to read and accessible. I knew about them because god help me I had someone like that in my life once. HUGE red flags went off for me the second the “O” great one entered the political stage.

    He’s not even just narcissistic in the common way a lot of celebrities or politicians are. He is dangerously pathological and the longer this went on the more convinced I became. So much so that I think doing Dr. Hare’s check list for psychopaths might be in order for the ONE who held the six million dollar speech. The one who sees MLK and JFK when he looks in the mirror, mirror on the wall despite all evidence to the contrary. He’s as vacuous and dangerously empty and devoid of empathy as any garden variety N. out there. *YAWN*

    It’s gotten so I can tell exactly what he will say and do next. Believe me there is no low too low for this one.

  174. Whoops! PerriesI I hadn’t noticed that you too had mentioned NPD as outlined on operation doubles! N survivor info indeed and we sure as hell don’t need one running the country!

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