Obama just unveiled a new ad campaign targeting 18 states, including some very red ones (including my own state of NC). In it he attempts to paint himself as “values candidate”. But as we all know, Obama doesn’t have much value at all when it comes to his experience or integrity. So the only way he has left to sell himself to the American public is to exaggerate his accomplishments. And in some instances, just flat out lie. This doesn’t surprise me. I’ve known Barack Obama to be a liar for some time now. I wonder if the rest of the country will catch wise…
First of all let’s take a look at the text of the ad. (all text from the ad comes from his site, which I refuse to link to—google it):
I was raised by a single mom and my grandparents. We didn’t have much money, but they taught me values straight from the Kansas heartland where they grew up. Accountability and self-reliance. Love of country. Working hard without making excuses. Treating your neighbor as you’d like to be treated. It’s what guided me as I worked my way up – taking jobs and loans to make it through college.
It’s what led me to pass up Wall Street jobs and go to Chicago instead, helping neighborhoods devastated when steel plants closed.
That’s why I passed laws moving people from welfare to work, cut taxes for working families and extended health care for wounded troops who’d been neglected.
First off, I just have to laugh at the “working hard” comment. Just ask Katiebird, the man hasn’t held a full time job since he graduated from law school. And accountability and self-reliance? Barack, you haven’t been held accountable since you were, well, I can’t think of when you’ve EVER been held accountable. Self reliance? don’t make me laugh. You haven’t had an original idea in your life. Every “accomplishment” you claim has been in name only. Other people do the work, and you take the credit–or just completely appropriate their ideas all together (“yeah, what Hillary said”).
Now down to brass tacks: . Obama makes three rather grand pronouncements in this ad. First of all he says he passed laws moving people from welfare to work. While this is the truest of the claims, he does seem to be pandering to a right-leaning audience. If any of you read my post on Clinton bashing, several commenters blasted Clinton for doing the same thing with his comprehensive welfare reform. Obama contradicts himself on the Clinton legacy as well. And while he claims to have moved people from “welfare to work” he was mostly interested in allowing convicted felons to continue to enroll in welfare programs:
Obama: “I am not a defender of the status quo with respect to welfare. Having said that, I probably would not have supported the federal legislation, because I think it had some problems.” (Sen. Barack Obama, State Of Illinois 90th General Assembly Regular Session Senate Transcript, 5/31/97, www.ilga.gov, p. 42)
NOTE: Obama’s Contribution To H.B. 204 Included Determining Which Felons Would Be Eligible For Welfare, And Under What Conditions:
Illinois State Sen. Dave Syverson (R): “[I]n the area of felons, we have decided, through negotiations both with Senator Obama, with the House leadership, regarding this issue, that those who are convicted of Class X and Class 1 felonies will never be able to get onto the welfare system. These are individuals who have sold drugs, been found guilty of selling drugs to our kids, and we don’t believe that they should participate in our tax dollars. We will, however, on Class 2, 3 and 4 felons, they will – they will have a two-year limit, unless they’re involved in a drug treatment program.” (Sen. Dave Syverson, State Of Illinois 90th General Assembly Regular Session Senate Transcript, 5/31/97, www.ilga.gov, p. 40)
Second, Obama takes credit for tax cuts for working families while in the Illinois state senate. The Governor of Illinois at the time, however, doesn’t quite remember it the same way:
Referencing The Same Legislation, Obama Has Made The Claim That He Created The Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit In 2000. “Obama created the Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income working families in 2000 and successfully sponsored a measure to make the credit permanent in 2003. The law offered about $105 million in tax relief over three years.” (Obama For America, “The Blueprint For Change,” www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/14/08, p. 43)
Obama Was Not The Lead Sponsor Of The Legislation, And The Governor Credited A Different Member Of Congress With Its Passage…
When Gov. Ryan Signed The Earned Income Tax Credit Into Law, He Credited Democrat Senate Leader Emil Jones With Its Passage. “Crediting Illinois Democratic Senate Leader Emil Jones with its passage, Gov. George Ryan Thursday [May, 11, 2000] signed the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) into law, which will put about $50 in the pockets of poor workers. In signing HB 3939, which amends the Illinois Income Tax Act that established the first EITC program for individuals, Ryan said this credit will be equal to five percent of the federal earned income tax credit for the years 2000-2002.” (Chinta Strausberg, “Governor Ryan Signs Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) Bill,” Chicago Defender, 5/13/00)
Finally, and probably the most blatant lie in the ad, is Obama’s claim to have “extended health care for wounded troops who’d been neglected”. This is just simply not true. In keeping with a long standing tradition of skipping out on important votes, Barack Obama did the same with H.R. 4986:
Obama Cites Public Law 110-181 To Support His Claim That He Extended Health Care For Wounded Veterans. (P.L. 110-181, Signed Into Law 1/28/08; Obama For America Website, www.barackobama.com, Accessed 6/19/08 )
Obama Missed The Vote On The Legislation He Cites, Which Passed The Senate By An Overwhelming Bipartisan Majority:
The 2008 National Defense Authorization Act Became Public Law 110-181. (Library Of Congress Website, www.thomas.gov, Accessed 6/19/08 )
Obama Missed The Vote On The Defense Authorization Act, Which Passed By An Overwhelming Bipartisan Majority. (H.R. 4986, CQ Vote #1: Passed 91-3: R 46-0; D 44-2; I 1-1, 1/22/08, Obama Did Not Vote)
And before anyone accuses me of repeating Republican talking points, I fully admit it. These may be talking points (from the Wisconsin state GOP), but they are facts. Coming from Democrats who have swallowed the VRWC’s lies and dementia about anything Clinton, it kind of loses its sting. I’ll make you a deal sweeties, when you get over your raging cases of CDS, I’ll stop looking to Republicans to get the facts on Barry, all right?
Oh, and completely off topic, but another kick in the head from our valiant Democratic leadership in the house. They have once again capitulated to Bush on the Iraq war, providing funding until he is out of office:
The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday approved enough new money to wage wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for another year, while abandoning attempts to set deadlines opposed by President George W. Bush for withdrawing American combat troops.
By a vote of 268-155, the House approved the funding for the two wars. Most of the $161.8 billion the Pentagon will get, which is slightly less than Bush requested, will be used to fight in Iraq.
Thanks for the leadership Nancy. You sweeties want to throw Iraq in our faces every chance you get when we say we might vote for McCain. I say go talk to Pelosi. If she can’t even face down a lame duck president whose approval rating is in the toilet about a war that nobody wants anymore, well, I have a hard time feeling guilty about that.
Oh, and this just in….House caves on retro immunity:
Hoyer said the bill, opposed by a majority of his Democratic colleagues, was the best possible deal: “Our alternative was essentially between this compromise bill and the protections we built in, or the Senate bill, which gave immunity outright.
“We can’t really change what has happened, but going forward, we would protect and have court oversight of any program that a future administration might undertake,” he said.
Um, no Steny, there was another alternative, Grow a spine!!! These rats were terrified of what might happen if a real leader like Clinton were to gain power. No wonder they screwed her out of the nomination. Bunch of cowards….
Filed under: Barack Obama, General, Politics, Presidential Election 2008 | Tagged: liars, panderers






Few know this – but Obama already promissed the Iraqi Prime Minister we’d stay put in Iraq
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/0bama-mccain-identical-on-war-iraqi-prime-minister/
Gary is my hero! *applause* *cheers* *thumbs up*
aww..thanks
Gary,
Very well done. Thank you.
Not to mention, welfare to work was one Democratic legacy that is distinctly not values-based. It craps all over women who are already crapped all over, and makes them solely responsible for the actions of both parents. Until men will go to jail for failing to pay child support, welfare to work programs are just more misogyny in action.
Obama supports the FISA compromise bill.
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/06/house-passes-fisa-amendment.html#disqus_thread
Cheetos will be spinning WORMs rapidly to keep their heads from exploding.
Speaking of political ads…the Puma PAC Fundraising ROAR launched today over at http://blog.pumapac.org
The goal is to raise the first $100,000 for TV and print ads that will run in swing states over the summer.
Puma Pac is working with a company called Lightsong Films to produce high quality ads that “will bring the message of the Puma movement to hundreds of thousands of stranded Democrats who are disgusted with the party leadership. We will invite them to Just Say No Deal to Barack Obama, and to join Puma PAC’s Protest of the 2008 Presidential Election by staying home, voting for McCain, or writing in Hillary or a third party on November 4th.”
Obama will have his ads and we’ll have our own PUMA ads. Let the voters decide. Go PUMA!
See David Brook’s editorial in the NYTimes: Two Obamas. It is actually very good, although it gives him too much credit for being an “intellectual.” I don’t find him to be a good speaker and he doesn’t seem like much of a brainiac to me, but perhaps I am just not clever enough to understand.
Wasn’t his dad a Harvard graduate student? Most kids who pull themselves up from their bootstraps don’t have relatives who went to Harvard, do they? Didn’t he go to a prep school, live in Indonesia and Hawai’i, and graduate from Columbia U.? That is a hardscrabble life alright. Tough upbringing.
lol@huntingdon post. You nailed it all right there. He did have all of those advantages. His Mom was a Ph. D. and his grandmother was a bank executive who supported the entire family on her income. She probably did it on half the salary of her closest male peer too. Don’t forget those.
The FISA thing really hacked me off! Neither Pelosi nor Reid deserve to be in leadership positions.
If this is the best they could do, I’d say there is no leadership in Congress.
In addition to creating new ads, the Obama machine has also created something else a bit more frightening…a new Great Seal of Obama
For a picture of it, check out the NY Times article:
http://tinyurl.com/3hmguk
Here’s the info from the article:
“It is emblazoned with a fierce-looking eagle clutching an olive branch in one claw and arrows in the other and is deliberately reminiscent of the official seal of the president of the United States. Around the top border are the words “Obama for America;” across the bottom is the campaign’s Web address. It also contains the logo of the Obama campaign, variously interpreted as a sunrise or a view down an open road.
Just above the eagle’s head are the words “Vero Possumus,” roughly translated “Yes we can.” Not exactly E Pluribus Unum”
votermom,
yep, heads are, indeed, exploding today at the orange place over his non dearleader behaviour on FISA …strange disconnect there.
wow oceancitygirl,
does that logo beg to be interpreted over at bag news notes!
It looks like America (the eagle) is pinned down like a butterfly specimen. America held hostage? America under my thumb?
It certainly is about domination.
I thought one of the values was: Thou Shalt NOT steal …
We should never forget Michigan and that theft of delegates …
Fredster: did you see Nancy sold out on a line in a bill requiring the administration to get permission from congress before declaring war on iran … the line hillary was asking for?
Just read the following paragraph from Obama on FISA and you’ll know how to spell coward, phony, opportunist, fake, bed wetter, worm spine and what have you:
Excuse me while I get the vomit bucket.
Oceancitygirl, that is really creepy. I have to hand it to the Obama camp for savvy use of symbols. The subliminal message is that he’s already President.
Garychapelhill, thank you! Great piece. How does this man get away with so many lies? And never get called on it! I haven’t seen anything like it since – well, since GWB.
I’m sure those folks who were freezing in slumlord Rezko’s buildings are grateful for Barry’s community service.
Ever notice that Obama doesn’t mention he grew up in Hawaii? He never lived in Kansas, but that’s the state he always mentions.
My mother and her parents were from Kansas too, but I was raised in California.
Gary – I heard not too long ago that Obama did not go to Chicago for 2 years after he graduated from Law School. He says instead of going to the wall street offices, he went to become a community……..
I would like to know what he and MO did during those 2 years. Did he in fact attempt to get jobs to no avail or did he work unsuccessfully?
How can we find out?
MABlue, Obama is the perfect candidate for our do-nothing Congress. He’ll be a do-nothing President. Has he ever taken a stand on anything? And we’re expected to believe that once he’s President, he’ll all of a sudden grow a pair?
i like the idea of puma pac putting out ads. newwomensparty at yahoo groups (newwomensparty@aol.com) is trying to get together money for pro-Hillary radio ads and programs. http://www.womencountpac.com is raising money for pro-Hillary newspaper ads.
it’s heartening to see so many people trying to get the word out about Obama. right now, i think many Dems are supporting Obama, not because they like him but because they’re afraid of McCain. they don’t realize that Obama doesn’t have enough pledged delegates to win the Dem nomination. they hear Obama ads like Gary described but they don’t know they’re not true. (gary, i wish you could do an anti-Obama ad.)
thank you all for being here.
Stillife, I agree they are very savvy. Using symbols and subliminal messaging to imply he’s already the President- shows some hard work by the evil geniuses in Obamanation.
The Obama mind-control propaganda machine must have been set to ‘high’ today.
Gary – who are you?
MABlue- you can add self-righteous flatulent wind bag to that list up there-of all the horse dung double talk I have ever heard….he should have just voted present- or nay he could later have said he meant to vote yeah but pushed the wrong button-everyone of his kool-aid drinking blinders on rose colored glasses messiah worshiping bots would have believed him at least.
sorry hello every one-fuzzybeargville is home for the weekend-
but thanks to NABlue’s post I think I am going to puke too.
Over at Balloon Juice they’re not happy with the “Great Seal of Obama” or the FISA sell-out.
That’s not good for Big O, cuz the BJers snort the kool-aid powder straight w/o sugar.
I have it a Obama/Obama ticket it is one way to ensure that the person at the bottom of the ticket has lee experience than the one at the top….I think?
fuzzybeargville
and no one would lay a hand on him for the sake of keeping her out of the Oval Office
“I want to campaign the same way I govern, which is to respond directly and forcefully with the truth,”
~ Barack Obama, 11/08/07
When anyone says “the truth” (it’s the truth, the truth is, that’s the truth), I know that’s the first lie.
michael P Varvel:
I think your list beats mine by a mile. I have to say I prefer yours.
Over at TM, she has now blown a gasket that Obama voted present (oh, yeah, but he was actually not present) on FISA.
Like I told her before, Obama’s best friend Oprah has always said, “When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time!”
I think the “Very Possum seal will backfire — it’s too smug by half. Maybe it is an homage to us Appalachians who claim it as our state animal.
OMG who thought up the imperial seal! And the motto : Vero Possumus!
I’m busting a gut! They aren’t lemmings — they’re possums! It certainly explains the Dems in congress – they just play dead everytime a Republican looks at them.
Bwahahah…”not much money”. Yep, they were roughing it out in Mercer Island with Bill Gates, but they finally moved up to that shack in Hawaii.
Oceancitygirl:
Regarding the President of Nothing’s seal, one of the comments was:
“What’s Latin for ‘Gives speeches, says nothing?”
Over at Alegre’s Corner, Owl06 says:
Don’t hold your breath waiting.
Fredster: did you see Nancy sold out on a line in a bill requiring the administration to get permission from congress before declaring war on iran … the line hillary was asking for?
Kat, nothing they do (or don’t do) surprises me anymore. The Dem “leadership” needs to grow a set and stand up for something !
“Treating your neighbor as you’d like to be treated.” Hah. Obama’s enumeration of his so-called values is a joke, as is he.
“I was raised by a single mom and my grandparents. We didn’t have much money. . .”
Boy, am I tired of hearing this “log cabin” crap from Barky!
First of all, Barky’s “single mom” had a PhD. After divorcing Barky’s father, she remarried a wealthy man when Barky was quite young. The new family lived in a mansion in Indonesia, with servants. Poor little Barky was sent to fancy schools that catered exclusively to rich ex-patriates. His “single mom,” meanwhile, was working for the US Embassy.
After that, Barky was sent to live with his grandparents in Hawaii. Barky’s grandmother was a branch manager, and later a VP at a bank. His grandfather was a successful salesman. They lived in a single family house in a suburban neighborhood. There is simply no evidence whatsoever that Barky ever lacked for food, clothing, shelter, medical care or anything else while he lived with his grandparents.
Barky was sent to the most prestigous private school in the State. The story goes that he was on a scholarship, though I’ve never seen any proof of this.. Even if it is true, though, it does not mean that he, or his family, suffered from any hardships. In fact, the scholarship saved money for his family.
In addition, one often also hears that Obama’s mother was “on food stamps.” What is not mentioned is that she recieved this assistance in the mid-seventies, when she chose, despite already possessing a PhD, to stop working and “go back to school.” Also not mentioned is the fact Barky was already living with his grandparents, and not his mother, at the time of her receipt of the food stamps.
After graduating from high school, Barky went to fancy Occidental College, and then Ivy League Columbia University. After graduating from Columbia, Barky chose to spend 2 plus years a paid “community organizer,” before going on to Harvard Law School.
Putting it all together, Barky’s use of the term “single mom” with refernce to his mother is somewhere between a distortion and an outight lie. During the majority of the time that she was with him, she was not “single” at all, but married to a wealthy man. His claim that his family “didn’t have much money. . .” is similarly a distortion. While he was in Indonesia, his family had quite a bit of money. While he was in Hawaii, his grandparents had less money, but were still solidly middle class. Barky did not grow up like a Rockefeller, but he didn’t grow up in a tar paper shack either. Barky was a well-cared for, if unusually raised, middle class kid. He was not out collecting scrap metal after school so that the family could make ends meet.
Atrios names Obama: “Wanker of the Day “
I thought the media told us that voters didn’t react well to Senator Clinton’s acting like she was inevitable.
If the voters didn’t like that, which was not from Senator Clinton but from the same lice that tore her to shreds about it, how will they like the inevitable Possum?
Yes, I know that all the elites out there know and understand teh Latin. But us Ma and Pa Kettle types, not so much. And guess what? We may be dumber than a post and not know no Latin or nuttin, but we get one vote a piece just like the smart folks. Unless we live in FL or MI in which case, never mind.
Mablue thanks for the comment on my list but if you put both our lists together they are golden-no platinium….must wath what i write on the internet and say on the phone I could be arressted by brown shirts and go missing for ever in this “one nation under survalience”
well mom poped into gatortown and is at my brothers house-have to go see her-ask pat johnson about us gay boys and our moms its a real special relationship
later and love you all
fuzzybeargville
ps i give my troll house dropping dutys to garychapelhaill in my absence
Freemansfarm,
That is the most concise and in-depth explanation I have seen about the presumptive Possum-in-Chief. Thank you.
The press would have a conniption fit if Hillary had a ’seal’. They would go bananas. With Barack – we all accept the hubris by now. I don’t know why he doesn’t just place a crown of thorns on his head and drag a cross behind him.
Oh, and why an ordinary seat – get the man a throne!
Hi all,
You do keep me sane. I blogged some on Hillary’s site. I am $50 short of maxing out and I made 1500 calls to 9 states for Hillary. Just so you know who I am.
I think that we should put out an ad attacking Obama, refuting everything in his ad. Spending money to advertise PUMA is a waste of time and money. No one, but us, is going to attack BO before the convention. They are going to wait until he has the nomination before they attack. By then, it will be too late. Why is it that NO ONE has talked about him being a sleeper? He made a trip to Pakistan when in college. Isn’t that what domestic terrorist did? Why not make an ad about that? Bring up major questions about him before the convention. This is politics. Let’s get tough and let the accusations fly ! What do we have to lose?
I have a comment in moderation thanks to link to the BHO site, but.. check the site background for another take on the Great Seal. it is a bit much, to understate the case – I’m also surprised his people didn’t realize politically it’s not a good idea? hubris indeed.
dg, I think some people (aside from us) do realize the Great Possum Seal is a blunder. On the 360 blog, Candy Crowley said, “I’m no image consultant but I’m thinking this doesn’t do much for the current mission to assure voters he’s not an elitist.”
Oops, dg, I missed where you said “his” people. I think it’s as you say – pure hubris. They’re getting carried away with themselves. Between this and FISA, not a good day for Obama.
Will Obama show up for the FISA vote? Will he vote “present?” This guy is too much. As the new “leader of the party,” he could have stopped Hoyer and Pelosi if he wanted to. But he wants this power. So we can look forward to be spied on by the Obama adminstration. Will we be sent to reeducation camps if we criticize the great leader on the phone or in e-mails?
Prolix, stop it, stop it, I can’t stop laughing at Possum-in-Chief and a sop to the Appalachians.
I tell you what, if my 84 year-old Appy dad finds a possum, it’s supper. My mom refused to cook it, but my hunter dad always said that possum’s like any other meat only greasier. There you have it, a perfect description of our Possum-in-Chief: like any other only oilier.
The seal is really Hitlerian. There, I said it. I don’t mean he’s a mass murdering type, but that quest for power is completely totalitarian. He brooks no disagreement, will not debate, has a major ego. Who has had a seal before? How NAZI is that?
does anyone have links to both obama’s and clinton’s quotes on the vote? I thought I saw them around here somewhere….
Now you know:
Obama is an insulting, untrustworthy, unprincipled, spineless, incompetent, unqualified, ethically-challenged, unintelligent, fraud and fool. He will never get my vote (NOW MORE THAN EVER)!
Now you know:
Obama is an insulting, untrustworthy, unprincipled, spineless, incompetent, unqualified, ethically-challenged, unintelligent, fraud and fool. He will never get my vote (NOW MORE THAN EVER)!
OBAMABOTS: ANYONE WHO SENDS OBAMA MONEY AFTER TODAY (FISA FIASCO + CAMPAIGN FINANCE FIASCO) IS A GOSH DARN FOOL!
Gary, thank you for this great post!
“It’s what led me to pass up Wall Street jobs and go to Chicago instead, helping neighborhoods devastated when steel plants closed”
Yeah MF-er, but you still work for Wall St., thanks to your policies & political wh0ring.
Parentofed,
Okay, I’ll be good, it’s not like I would say something like, “BZero, I’ve known possums, and you sir, are a possum.”
don’t know if this has been posted (I’m in my hotel, getting ready for the NC Democratic Party state convention), but here’s a nice article about Sen. Obama telling former Clinton supporters to get over it…
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/heal-now-candidate-tells-cbc-2008-06-19.html
Gary – this is wonderful with a capital WON!
I am in shock about FISA. I didn’t expect Obama to lead on it, but to SUPPORT the cave-in?
Good Lord.
And that seal? I agree – it is totalitarian. Stalin woulda loved it.
What the hell is going on with this guy?
what an arrogant prick…he’s just like our trolls…
You might notice that ad implies that Obama grew up in Kansas -all that talk about those good Kansas values and all. He carefully leaves out the fact that his grandparents were actually living in Hawaii and that is where he grew up. This is most likely because they realize that if you say you grew up poor in Hawaii those bitter working class voters are not likely to feel a lot of sympathy for him.
No guts – no glory – I jsut can’t understand how one single woman (okay – his wife) would vote for this piece of shit – everytime he makes another stupid step or whenever another male dem says “we’ll get it over it” – “we’ll fall in line” – “we’ll come back to the party’ I start swearing at my tv telling them shut up shut up – not gonna happen – when a woman gets on there & says it – I bang my head (gently) & wonder how dumb are we…………………………MSM is starting to come around but it’s still fluff – is soros giving up – saw that moveon is cancelled…………..how did the bake sale go? I wouldn’t bought any of the stuff – like they say, no matter how much frosting you put on shit, it still ain’t cake…………………..done now
garychapelhill — Thanks for a great article.
Glenn Greenwald @ Salon has the quote from 0. I was gonna post all the links, etc, but realized it would be stuck in moderation for linkys. While yer there, read his article from a day or 2 ago, about 0’s campaigning for a blue dog in Georgia [Barrow]– against a very progressive AA opponent. [State Sen. Regina Thomas] It’s titled Obama, Telecoms, and the Beltway System
The current article, which has the 0 quote yer looking for is called What Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and Fred Hiatt mean by “bipartisanship”
I highly recommend reading the article in its entirety.
A quick quote from repuke Kit Bond —
ps — I have not yet seen what HRC has said.
ellen
Great post.
Will the real Jr. Senator of Illinois please stand up?
Gary:
You’ve been working so hard lately. You have become a prolific blogger. I’m gonna reward you with a couple of links. They’re all about one of your favorite “liberal” leaders Arianna Huffington:
Arianna Huffington’s 15-Year Feud With Tim Russert
The Story That Made Arianna Huffington Hate Tim Russert
Arianna Huffington’s Great Illegal Nanny Search
These are great stories, very enjoyable and funny. What a phony Arianna is!
the dems are truly spineless. i have no respect for them. what sell outs.
Now, what are the differences between the Republicans and Democrats? Caving into this bill, shows such a lack of leadership, political courage, and power, I am dumbfounded.
The spineless wing of the Democratic Party “won” the nomination. And by won, I mean selected by party leaders instead of the voters.
Other names: Invertebrate wing, Spungiform wing, In Need of a Spine Transplant wing of the party?
I guess Dean’s “Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party” were just words.
As far as the Senate FISA vote, after a bit of pompous speechifying, do expect it to pass with little opposition from the Dems. Even if 0 votes against it — it will be meaningless.
Rep. Barbara Lee had the best statement on the House Floor.
Glenn links her quote to TPM Muckraker, to whom I don’t feel like linking. Maybe it can be found on her House website. Also, I would expect C-Span to re-run the vote this evening.
I hope C-Span shows Scotty McClellan’s testimony before House Judiciary this weekend. I tried to watch it online, but it kept getting interrupted for House votes, e.g., the fisa vote.
–ellen
I guess the term when “Possums Fly” takes on a whole new meaning when it comes to BZero and FISA.
birdgal, on June 20th, 2008 at 7:50 pm Said:
the dems are truly spineless. i have no respect for them. what sell outs.
And that’s what so funny about the Dem’s INSISTANCE we vote for BO because of Roe / Wade . The Dems would hand over whatever the GOP wants whoever is in the White House, whoever is in the majority , it wouldn’t matter. I will not support these sell outs anymore…they have got to go!
FYI-Regarding the use of the Presidential Seal:
Here is the applicable United States Code (USC), 18 USC 713.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=browse_usc&docid=Cite:%2B18USC713
TITLE 18–CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I–CRIMES
CHAPTER 33–EMBLEMS, INSIGNIA, AND NAMES
Sec. 713. Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the
seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States
Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the
seal of the United States Congress
(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the
great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the
Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States
Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or
the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or
in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet,
or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or
other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the
purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a
false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the
United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months,
or both.
…”
There are some exceptions, so you will want to read 18 USC 713 in detail.
“…
Ex. Ord. No. 11649. Regulations Governing Seals of President and Vice
President of United States
Ex. Ord. No. 11649, Feb. 16, 1972, 37 F.R. 3625, as amended by Ex. Ord. No.
11916, May 28, 1976, 41 F.R. 22031, provided:
By virtue to the authority vested in me by section 713(b) of title 18,
United States Code, I hereby prescribe the following regulations governing
the use of the Seals of the President and the Vice President of the United
States:
…
(g) Such other uses for exceptional historical, educational, or newsworthy
purposes as may be authorized in writing by the Counsel to the President.
…”
Without an exception, or a very good lawyer, you probably want to think
very hard about using the Seal of the President
The Dems have not shown themselves, to be any different, than the Republicans.
don’t forget his uncle who liberated the jews — when it was really the russians and his mother doesn’t have a brother
LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE
More from Glenn’s post from yesterday regarding 0’s helping Barrow
* * * * *
Here are the two statements made by
Obama and Hillary on FISA. Guess
who said what?
A. Statement of _____________
“Today, I will vote against Republican efforts to shortchange the debate on the FISA Amendments Act, important legislation that would modernize our surveillance laws and give our nation’s intelligence professionals the tools they need to fight terrorism and make our country more secure. Rather than allow the Senate the opportunity to consider important amendments to this vital legislation, Republicans are instead blocking meaningful debate on this bill by playing procedural games, choosing instead to score cheap political points at the expense of our Homeland Security.”
http://snipurl.com/2m0dh
B. Statement of _____________
“I strongly oppose retroactive immunity in the FISA bill.
Ever since 9/11, this Administration has put forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand.
The FISA court works. The separation of power works. We can trace, track down and take out terrorists while ensuring that our actions are subject to vigorous oversight, and do not undermine the very laws and freedom that we are fighting to defend.
No one should get a free pass to violate the basic civil liberties of the American people – not the President of the United States, and not the telecommunications companies that fell in line with his warrantless surveillance program. We have to make clear the lines that cannot be crossed.”
http://snipurl.com/2m0ck
Actually, these are only excerpts of their
respective statements.
The Dems are different from the GOP in that they have turned themselves into a poor copy of the GOP. It’s the GOP, but with the Dem’s special brand of towering incompetence . They are truly beneath contempt .
Okay, Prolix, one slight edit before I hit the gym [well, crawl to the gym at my age]:
Possum-in-Chief, like all other meat only slicker.
Actually, I keep thinking of Possum Trot School House Recitation, don’t know why.
Someone posted this upthread but the quote from Alegre has to be repeated:
“I hate to say it, but “told ya so.” And wasn’t it Markos who vowed to “primary” any candidate that supported telecom immunity?
The delegates don’t vote until August sweety. Are you going to keep your word?”
So, what will Kos do? Is he just like the hypocrites of the right? Are they Hypos while were PUMAs?
WS…love HYPOS….PUMAS v HYPOS, wonder who will win
Got this in an email and I’ve never heard this one before but I swear it describes our potential nominee:
John the farmer was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called ‘pullets’, and ten roosters, whose job it was to fertilize the eggs.
The farmer kept records and any rooster that didn’t perform went into the soup pot and was replaced. That took an awful lot of his time, so he bought a set of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone so John could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing. Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report simply by listening to the bells.
The farmer’s favorite rooster was old Butch, a very fine specimen he was, too. But on this particular morning John noticed old Butch’s bell hadn’t rung at all! John went to investigate. The other roosters were chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing. The pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover.
But to Farmer John’s amazement, old Butch had his bell in his beak, so it couldn’t ring. He’d sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one. John was so proud of old Butch, he entered him in the Renfrew County Fair and he became an overnight sensation among the judges.
The result…The judges not only awarded old Butch the No Bell Piece Prize but they awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well.
Clearly old Butch was a politician in the making: who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them when they weren’t paying attention.
Vote carefully this year…the bells are not always audible …
For the seal, to answer someone’s question on here:
Loquit, sed nilum dicit.
WS –
If Lord Cheeto vowed to primary anyone supporting telecom immunity, in the instance of Georgia’s Barrow, he would be going against the wishes of his Dear Leader.
More from Glenn’s article
I think Vero Possumus, loosely translated, means “lipstick on a possum”
kiki, O M G that is the funniest line tonight!
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beside the breathtaking hypocrisy of all of 0’s cynically changing position on telecom immunity — without having to take personal responsibility for it, as with so many other instances of taking all sides of an issue … is that, at least for me, this is all about the grossly expanded powers of the Executive Branch. This has been the root of all the evil of Bushco.
Telecom immunity IMHO, does not have all that much to do with getting the telecoms off the hook. It is really about preventing discovery in the lawsuits. This keeps all of us from knowing what the admin did. The telecoms have never “needed” immunity. We all know they have thousands of attys … they would never have been naive or foolhardy enough to simply accept bushco’s assurances on the matter before taking up the domestic spying they were asked to do.
With all that we have seen of 0, I feel reasonably certain that he has no intention whatsoever of relinquishing any of the newfound powers the Bush admin granted to the Executive Branch. 0 likes having/keeping power more than anything else.
Goodbye separation of powers …
thanks Gary
that was a shout out to Mawm
kiki, I had to go get him to show it to him
Kos, WKJM Hypos roaming Left Blogistan!!!
ws: what?
Oh, hypos is short for hypocrite like kos (see here), sort of goes in line with the animal people concept of PUMAs.
and here
Josh Marshall (Whoever Kidnapped Josh Marshall, WKJM) is a Hypo for his support of Social Security and his support for BO (and Obama’s insistance that SS is in “crisis”)
BO is a Hypo too on FISA, NAFTA, Public Financing, preconditions before meeting with world leaders, undivided Jerusalem, his shady relationships, gun control, non UHC plan, Iraq withdrawal, voting rights, and ethics reform (did I miss anything?).
hypo for bringing hope and unity. only change, is Chicago-style politics on a national scale. Also, not using lobbyists.
Obama copied every single thing on this “autobiography” from the true biography of John Edwards. A simple factcheck would show that he went to an expensive private school in Hawaii, and never visited his brave white single mom when she was dying of cancer and he was exploring his “black” identity.
great legal sleuthing Katmoon on the pseudo presidential seal,
I stuck it in a big orange cheatopian diary…heads are exploding over there today…
you guys are three steps ahead of me. I just found out about this ad a few minutes ago, from Newsweek –
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/06/19/ad-hawk-barack-obama-captain-america.aspx
I love the parts in the ad about poor Bambi having to take out student loans (imagine!) and foregoing Wall Street law firms to help the poor (instead, he joined a Chicago law firm where he was terminated in 2002 – didn’t make partner?)