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		<title>By: You’re Right: It’s Our Party Now and We Don’t Want you Holding Us Down Anymore (Warning: ANGRY RANT BELOW) &#171; Too Old For Maxim, Too Young for Esquire</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-39332</link>
		<dc:creator>You’re Right: It’s Our Party Now and We Don’t Want you Holding Us Down Anymore (Warning: ANGRY RANT BELOW) &#171; Too Old For Maxim, Too Young for Esquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] makes an interesting point as well, “Barack Obama is starting to look more and more like George W. Bush circa 2000. Back [...]</description>
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		<title>By: suzieg</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38826</link>
		<dc:creator>suzieg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understood that line of argument because I specifically remember seeing her on some committee advocating and explaining her health care program in minute details and was so very impressed by her knowledge!  Here&#039;s a great article in the Houston Chronicle about Obama not committing to universal health care:

www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/5823929.html

Where&#039;s the commitment to universal health care?


By FROMA HARROP

A remarkable thing just happened in the people&#039;s party. Democrats have chosen a candidate, in the year 2008, who does not have a plan for universal health coverage. Barack Obama caresses the words &quot;universal coverage&quot; almost hourly, but his proposal offers nothing of the kind — unlike the plans of Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and other Democratic hopefuls.

Most striking, the man who showed such timidity on health care became the hero of ardent progressives. So forgiving was their love of Mr. Big that they virtually abandoned what should have been the Democrats&#039; most potent promise: medical coverage for all.

This is political opportunity lost. In a new CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, 49 percent of registered voters list the economy as their No. 1 issue, with the Iraq war second at 19 percent. Health care comes in a close third at 14 percent.

more......

the honeymoon might be coming to an end and maybe the journalists will finally do their job and investigate him throuroughly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood that line of argument because I specifically remember seeing her on some committee advocating and explaining her health care program in minute details and was so very impressed by her knowledge!  Here&#8217;s a great article in the Houston Chronicle about Obama not committing to universal health care:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/5823929.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/5823929.html</a></p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the commitment to universal health care?</p>
<p>By FROMA HARROP</p>
<p>A remarkable thing just happened in the people&#8217;s party. Democrats have chosen a candidate, in the year 2008, who does not have a plan for universal health coverage. Barack Obama caresses the words &#8220;universal coverage&#8221; almost hourly, but his proposal offers nothing of the kind — unlike the plans of Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and other Democratic hopefuls.</p>
<p>Most striking, the man who showed such timidity on health care became the hero of ardent progressives. So forgiving was their love of Mr. Big that they virtually abandoned what should have been the Democrats&#8217; most potent promise: medical coverage for all.</p>
<p>This is political opportunity lost. In a new CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, 49 percent of registered voters list the economy as their No. 1 issue, with the Iraq war second at 19 percent. Health care comes in a close third at 14 percent.</p>
<p>more&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>the honeymoon might be coming to an end and maybe the journalists will finally do their job and investigate him throuroughly!</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38411</link>
		<dc:creator>jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you&#039;re back, Gary.  Missed ya&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you&#8217;re back, Gary.  Missed ya&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: tpt/ny</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38402</link>
		<dc:creator>tpt/ny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Kim:from TPT/NY,
 I heard they &quot;blame&quot; Clinton for &quot;them&quot; losing the house &amp; the Senate in 1994; instead of &quot;looking&quot; in the mirror(s) @ themselves. I remember one of the 
debates Obama accused Hillary of &quot;blocking out&quot; 
members of her own party during 1993 H/Care work.
I guess he&#039;s pay-back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kim:from TPT/NY,<br />
 I heard they &#8220;blame&#8221; Clinton for &#8220;them&#8221; losing the house &amp; the Senate in 1994; instead of &#8220;looking&#8221; in the mirror(s) @ themselves. I remember one of the<br />
debates Obama accused Hillary of &#8220;blocking out&#8221;<br />
members of her own party during 1993 H/Care work.<br />
I guess he&#8217;s pay-back!</p>
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		<title>By: SM</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38251</link>
		<dc:creator>SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabitchez nails it with this comment:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
If they really are the victors....................
 
then why are they trolling like jilted, psychotic ex boyfriends?

It&#039;s not just my blog that has had to turn the comments mod on because of trolls and stalkers. Uppity had to turn off her chat function because the TrollBots decided it was a good place to drop perverted and gross comments. MyDD has been invaded. Anglachel had to turn on comment mods. So did BlueLyon- though that&#039;s because of my resident TrollBot stalker. The only reason they haven&#039;t actually taken over at Shakes is cause Liss and the genuine non-trolly Obama supporters over there won&#039;t tolerate it. 

This is not the behavior of people who have won, is it? I have seen this kinda of thing before though, from exes who were very unhappy about being exes. Actually, I&#039;ve seen this kind of thing from a vary particular ex who required both a restraining order (from a civil court) and a no contact order (from a criminal court) and actual jail time to stop fucking with me. This is the behavior of disappointed psychos.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words, LEAVE US ALONE.  We don&#039;t want you or your 0bambi!  

Go away! 

 NOBODY WANTS YOU OR THE 0BAMBI.

We are PUMAs - we don&#039;t want unity, we are actually assimilating with 4 more years of McCain, as 8 years of Bush have toughened our skin.  But what we won&#039;t do is have idiots who claim to be &quot;Democrats&quot; run our party into the ground as you have.  Fine. Fall over the cliff.  It&#039;s not like we didn&#039;t warn you.

We will either vote McCain, vote Green Party (Cynthia McKinney is black and female, so rock on girl!), stay home or write in Hillary&#039;s name if our state allows it.  

We will not vote for Obama. 

Roe v Wade will remain intact.  If Dubya didn&#039;t get rid of it, nobody is going to get rid of it, so stop it.  

The more you push, the more we resist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabitchez nails it with this comment:</p>
<blockquote><p>
If they really are the victors&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>then why are they trolling like jilted, psychotic ex boyfriends?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just my blog that has had to turn the comments mod on because of trolls and stalkers. Uppity had to turn off her chat function because the TrollBots decided it was a good place to drop perverted and gross comments. MyDD has been invaded. Anglachel had to turn on comment mods. So did BlueLyon- though that&#8217;s because of my resident TrollBot stalker. The only reason they haven&#8217;t actually taken over at Shakes is cause Liss and the genuine non-trolly Obama supporters over there won&#8217;t tolerate it. </p>
<p>This is not the behavior of people who have won, is it? I have seen this kinda of thing before though, from exes who were very unhappy about being exes. Actually, I&#8217;ve seen this kind of thing from a vary particular ex who required both a restraining order (from a civil court) and a no contact order (from a criminal court) and actual jail time to stop fucking with me. This is the behavior of disappointed psychos.
</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, LEAVE US ALONE.  We don&#8217;t want you or your 0bambi!  </p>
<p>Go away! </p>
<p> NOBODY WANTS YOU OR THE 0BAMBI.</p>
<p>We are PUMAs &#8211; we don&#8217;t want unity, we are actually assimilating with 4 more years of McCain, as 8 years of Bush have toughened our skin.  But what we won&#8217;t do is have idiots who claim to be &#8220;Democrats&#8221; run our party into the ground as you have.  Fine. Fall over the cliff.  It&#8217;s not like we didn&#8217;t warn you.</p>
<p>We will either vote McCain, vote Green Party (Cynthia McKinney is black and female, so rock on girl!), stay home or write in Hillary&#8217;s name if our state allows it.  </p>
<p>We will not vote for Obama. </p>
<p>Roe v Wade will remain intact.  If Dubya didn&#8217;t get rid of it, nobody is going to get rid of it, so stop it.  </p>
<p>The more you push, the more we resist.</p>
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		<title>By: ronkseattle</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38248</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re LeeAnne -- That&#039;s the real LeeAnne, a devoted Hillary follower. We should expect that many of Hillary&#039;s supporters will part company on the &#039;What now?&quot; question, and not treat them unkindly.

However, I would encourage LeeAnne to keep an open mind, as there are arguments and circumstances that hae not yet presented themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re LeeAnne &#8212; That&#8217;s the real LeeAnne, a devoted Hillary follower. We should expect that many of Hillary&#8217;s supporters will part company on the &#8216;What now?&#8221; question, and not treat them unkindly.</p>
<p>However, I would encourage LeeAnne to keep an open mind, as there are arguments and circumstances that hae not yet presented themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: myiq2xu</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38245</link>
		<dc:creator>myiq2xu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should call these trolls &quot;missionaries&quot; instead of &quot;sweeties?&quot;

They come here on a mission to convert us and save our souls.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Worship The One, and He will lead you to the Promised Land.&quot;  All you have to do is drink the kool-aid&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, we &quot;just say NO to kool-aid&quot; around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should call these trolls &#8220;missionaries&#8221; instead of &#8220;sweeties?&#8221;</p>
<p>They come here on a mission to convert us and save our souls.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Worship The One, and He will lead you to the Promised Land.&#8221;  All you have to do is drink the kool-aid&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Sorry, we &#8220;just say NO to kool-aid&#8221; around here.</p>
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		<title>By: SM</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38244</link>
		<dc:creator>SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, I think that&#039;s McCain, not Obama.

I know you are brilliant, must be the O-borg overload.

PS, I saw your site, I&#039;ll be lurking everyday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, I think that&#8217;s McCain, not Obama.</p>
<p>I know you are brilliant, must be the O-borg overload.</p>
<p>PS, I saw your site, I&#8217;ll be lurking everyday!</p>
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		<title>By: myiq2xu</title>
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		<dc:creator>myiq2xu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.  It became a state in 1958.

McCain was born in the Canal Zone, the child of two US citizens born abroad (like myself.)

My understanding was that the CZ was not a US territory, it was leased from Panama.

BTW - We helped create the Republic of Panama.  Teddy Roosevelt encouraged that region of what was then Columbia to declare independence, and then we immediately &quot;recognized&quot; them as a nation and agreed to protect them (in exchange for a 99 year lease on the CZ.)

We just happened to have a few gunboats nearby at the time as well, allowing us to ensure their independence. (hence &quot;gunboat diplomacy&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.  It became a state in 1958.</p>
<p>McCain was born in the Canal Zone, the child of two US citizens born abroad (like myself.)</p>
<p>My understanding was that the CZ was not a US territory, it was leased from Panama.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; We helped create the Republic of Panama.  Teddy Roosevelt encouraged that region of what was then Columbia to declare independence, and then we immediately &#8220;recognized&#8221; them as a nation and agreed to protect them (in exchange for a 99 year lease on the CZ.)</p>
<p>We just happened to have a few gunboats nearby at the time as well, allowing us to ensure their independence. (hence &#8220;gunboat diplomacy&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
		<link>http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/this-is-how-the-unity-pony-works/#comment-38234</link>
		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ --

Thanks, my dear.  Great to see you, too.  

And to read your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ &#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks, my dear.  Great to see you, too.  </p>
<p>And to read your comments.</p>
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