So where do Obama and Co. and the MSM get their talking points from these days? As incredible as it seems, “the boyz” are following marching orders from none other than one of their former arch-enemies, Drudge. I guess he’s their new BFF since he hates Hillary as much as they do. Fox news reports that the latest WWTSBQ frenzy started with a NY Post story that was spread through the ranks of the press corps by Drudge, playing up the “Hillary wants him dead” meme. This article was appropriately titled, “Hillary brings up Kennedy Assassination, Press Freaks Out”.
BRANDON, SD – Another example of the power of the Drudge Report today, as a NY Post story pointing out that Clinton brought up the assassination of Robert F Kennedy in 1968 during an editorial board meeting sent reporters traveling with Clinton into a frenzy….Almost instantly, the Post story was circulated to the press corps via blackberry and Drudge, and reporters here at Clinton’s town hall meeting abandoned any pretense of listening to the event — flocking around the first Clinton flack they could find for a response to the quote.
Apparently it took the creative mind of Drudge to inspire the Obama campaign to tastelessly exploit the death of an American icon for political gain, in the very same week his sole surviving brother was diagnosed with a brain tumor… very classy. Now this is the kind of thing we expect from Drudge, but from a Democratic presidential candidate, and the left blogosphere? It appears that is the path they are choosing. But they still have some lessons to learn from the pros. See, this isn’t the first time Clinton has made this comparison, as the Fox article goes on to say:
But Clinton has made a similar “long primaries are fine” argument before — once with a more oblique reference to the Kennedy assassination. “If you look at successful presidential campaigns, my husband didn’t get the nomination until June of 1992. I remember, tragically, Senator Kennedy won California near the end of that process,” she said at a DC fundraiser on May 7th. “It has often gone on. And we have a lot to work out here. Because we have to figure out who would be the stronger candidate.”
Where was the outrage then? Where was “Special” K’s spittle ridden rant when she said it on May 7th? Obviously neither Olbermann, the Obama campaign, nor anyone at CNN, MSNBC, etc, was as creative as our friend Mr. Drudge. We all know that the MSM salivates at his every blackberry message, but Democrats? Obama has become just another cog in the right wing, bottom feeding, tabloid rumor-mill machine of which Drudge is commander-in-chief. I noticed that the Obama campaign started to back away from this story almost as soon as they started to push the “it has no place” message that they used in SC. I imagine someone in the Kennedy family told them to stop using RFK to score points and suppress votes. We know that telling Drudge “shame on you” is an exercise in futility. Well maybe some of the OFB still have some semblance of a conscience. If they do, this ones for them. Shame on you!!
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It’s sick. Really, this permanently cements my opposition to Obama and I am so happy I reregistered unaffiliated yesterday. The blow up over Hillary citing historically long primaries(particularly ‘68 which was the last time we had a wide open primary) is literally disgusting. Democrats can no longer claim to be reality bsed. It’s just like that article yesterday. I am going to post the link again in case anyone missed it.
http://www.newstatesman.com/north-america/2008/05/obama-clinton-vote-usa-media
But, RD, you don’t understand. Whatever Hillary Clinton says, it’s all about Barack Obama. Say it with me: ALL ABOUT HIM. Now, how hard was that?
What’s funny is she was clearly relating to RFK. But of course it’s really about Obama. Never, never will I vote for that man.
Some of the comments on the Fox blog were interesting. Is Obama’s faux-outraged victim act wearing thin?
Yep now there’s a NYTimes article about how Bush’s speech in Israel might not have been just directed (they still think it does) at Odrama. Now that Israel wants to talk to Hamas so Bush might have known about it and his speech was directed at the Israelites since it’s always his position not to talk to Hamas. The Odrama camp of course thinks everything is about him.
I finally watched the entire Olbermann rant. Did anyone else watch it? It was so long, detailed, and disjointed that it actually got boring to listen to it. He went through every trumped up charge that has been hurled at Hillary throughout the primary season. And did you notice that loud noise at one point during the rant? It sounded like a gunshot. Was that deliberate?
Is it possible that Keith O. could be on drugs? Or could he be bipolar and in the midst of a manic episode? I’m not joking. I think there is something wrong with him. He also looks really unwell. He has gained a lot of weight and has been looking very puffy for weeks now. Seriously, I won’t be surprised if we hear he has gone into a treatment program soon. He appears to be on the edge of a breakdown.
What do you guys think?
don’t go there? don’t come here!
Um….What say you? Is that you Keith? Please get help soon.
Of course it was deliberate, boston.
bboomer, I stopped watching him long ago so I don’t know. I tried to read the transcript of his “special moment” but only made it through a few paragraphs.
I also have read some of his posts at Kos. He comes off as an angry teenage boy. And as a high school teacher I know angry teenage boy
Melanie,
You really think so? What would be the point? It didn’t come at any relevant point in his rant, and he appeared startled by it. He must have something in his contract that his writing can’t be edited, because if anyone with a brain had read that, it would have been cut down dramatically.
I honestly think there is something wrong with Olbermann–something serious. It wasn’t even effective. No one could take that seriously. He’s rapidly become a parody of himself.
Gary,
I won’t belabor it anymore, but believe me, I know what I’m talking about. I think it’s highly likely that Olberman is either using drugs (I’m guessing coke or meth) or he is hypomanic.
What is ironic is that it is Hillary who has been most threatened by violence this whole primary, including by Keith Obamaman himself, who said she should be taken into a room by an SD and only he come out. Looking around the internet this morning, though, I’m getting frightened for Hillary. The Obamabots are truly coming unhinged in a very ugly way.
Joseph Cannon over at Cannonfire this morning said he had found a death threat against Hillary over at Daily Kos. He called the Secret Service and they said they would be investigating it. I think we should do the same. There is some really vile stuff out there today. And I have a feeling that it is just going to get worse.
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CognitiveDissonance, I gave him a link to a threat I found at Ezra Klein’s site (that’s when I left blogosphere 1.0) last February. I don’t know if he saw the link though.
I’ll take a look at his post.
Drudge! I thought so. Just when the left is threatening to rollback the right, fauxgressives (overwhelmingly former GOP) and the Democratic establishment are entrenching the right’s power even further.
I wish she hadn’t apologized.
@WhatSayYou: Obama is done as is the Democratic Party, thanks to people like you. The line crossed yesterday was further than I could ever imagine–and this was after the doctored “War Room” video dirty trick.
I just overflew some comments here and I would really like The Confluence to adopt Jeralyn’s policy on this matter:
I don’t know how low her threshold is on this, but I’m sure mine is even lower. There are enough places out to throw gratuitous accusations and threats at Hillary.
So, a current Senator of NY who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination and plans to take her campaign all the way to the convention references–not for the first time–a man who was also Senator of NY and was running for the Democratic presidential nomination and was running all the way into June, when he was killed. (She also compares herself, at the same time, to another former Democratic candidate who ran well into June, and who happens to be her husband.) Clearly, this means that she is really comparing her opponent, who is not a Senator from NY and would love it if she wouldn’t take her campaign all the way to the convention, to the aforementioned former Senator/candidate.
Does that mean she also thinks Obama is her husband?
davidson–did she actually apologize? I know I saw that headline, but I thought she just clarified what she said.
Let’s ignore inappropriate comments and behavior. I think there this whole Obama as victim thing is burling into America’s psyche. Just like it didn’t play well when Hillary’s campaign said she was being ganged up on it does not play well when you whine and complain constantly about how unfairly you are treated each day. Nobody likes those people in the work place or at home. So this is ultimately going to hurt Obama. But as I said before it won’t be something that will automatically pop up or down in polls. This is a gradual impression that is building. If you listen to any right wing talk radio, this is where they are going. This idea that he has to be treated differently, with special care. You know, everything is off limits. This is a gradual building up of resentment towards him. We are used to it but the rest of the voters are not.
No one is *upset* with you Keith (AKA “What say you”). Try not to be too paranoid. Now do you have a doctor you can reach on the weekend? You need help.
Look (if you dare) at TPM Election Central’s coverage of Clinton’s interview which they say was carried live online.
They obviously watched in real time and the only thing they (obvious Clinton haters that they are) called out was the VP discussions. Then later they get the alert from Drudge and only then it dawns on them that they can spin this to make her look bad.
Now THAT is what I call a “progressive” website!
Ben,
This definitely is building on the right, along with the perception that Obama is such a neophyte that he’s almost laughable as a candidate. I heard McCain actually ridiculing Obama a couple of days ago for his inexperience.
I have to wonder what is going on among the superdelegates who aren’t brain dead–and there are some. They are going to have to figure out how to hand this clusterf*$k eventually. Luckily for them, the convention is a long way off.
What say you? : “I never said it was directed at Barack, though I can see where it logically leads there.”
Confluence denies the logic. The very sentence is disparaging of us and our mission.
She spoke of two campaigns that continued into June, Her Husbands and the first presidential primary when she could vote.
Also? I contend that anyone who claims there is anything wrong in what she intended is accusing her of being “A Monster” — a feeling known to exist among Obama Staff.
We have a low tolerance for being talked down to here. Be respectful and we’re happy to have you.
BB: you made me laugh with the “he is not well” comment (or something to that effect). heh.
MABlue: I am all for it.
Katiebird,
The main problem I had with *Keith’s* initial post was that he said Hillary is finished. That’s just stupid.
{{{theseahag}}}
Love your response!
Bostonboomer — I didn’t make it that far. I’m suffering from brain-block, I guess.
MABlue – I’ve got low tolerance myself…. (that’s probably obvious)
UpstateNY,
Well, I’m glad I could make you laugh, but I was actually quite serious. I think there is something seriously wrong with Keith, and I’m guessing it’s either drugs or mental illness. I’m honestly not joking.
UpstateNY,
Please if you haven’t watched the special comment yet, do watch it and tell me what you think. Taylor Marsh has the you tube up at her place. It will probably make you laugh a lot more than what I said. Olberman has gone over the top and down the other side. The people who care for this man need to see that he gets some help.
The RFK smear marks a new low in Obama campaign lowness.
How low can they go?
BB, I read the KO was being treated for Chrones (sp?) disease – high doses of steriods. That causes the swelling and aggression in many/some people.
garychapelhill, she apologized to the Kennedy’s if she caused them any pain, and clarified her remarks, which really didn’t need clarifying if one listened to the entire exchange.
You rather have to love when people say Hillary is finished. No one has been able to convince her to drop out yet or been able to finish her off politically. The good people of NH, NV, AZ, FL, CA, MA, OH, TX, WV, KY, all have stepped in to and had her back when she needed it.
What is ironic is that it is Hillary who has been most threatened by violence this whole primary, including by Keith Obamaman himself, who said she should be taken into a room by an SD and only he come out. Looking around the internet this morning, though, I’m getting frightened for Hillary.
I really believe the MSM wants their rioting.
I really believe they’re trying to provoke what is supposed to end in violence.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/24/133436/217/643/522089
More sexist hate on KOS.
BB: you could be right….I do not watch KO. Thought he was interesting when he first came out (I saw him on places like C. & Liars) but his sanctimonious rants soon became stale (this was way before his “love” for Hillary came through).
I wonder if they have to clean the camera after each show. He always looks like he is spitting while talking (Kbird…you are much better at spitting though, and you at least do it with gusto and voluntarily).
sorry for poor spelling.
Thanks, Katie. I’m just not understanding the Obamabot “logic” here. I don’t think they even understand it, they just foam at the mouth anytime Clinton says anything.
And BB, I think you may be right. I try not to speculate on the personal lives of famous people, but he seriously does look (and act) like he is unwell. I wish him no ill, but I can’t really make myself care much, given how ugly his personality has revealed itself to be.
What is ironic is that it is Hillary who has been most threatened by violence this whole primary, including by Keith Obamaman himself, who said she should be taken into a room by an SD and only he come out.
Which is why his statement yesterday was the height of arrogant hyposcrisy.
How low can they go?
Everytime I think they’ve hit bottom, they break out picks and shovels.
This really reminds me of the GOP during Monicagate. It was obvious to anyone who wasn’t deranged that they were hurting themselves and making Bill more popular with the rest of the country, but they couldn’t help themselves. They were like drug addicts.
Hate addicts?
BB: just came from TMarsh as you suggested and found the whole thing ridiculous (I will admit I only watched about a third of his ranting…I really find the man annoying and his logic tortured).
Nah… I do not think he is sick. His make up was way too thick and probably his pants were too tight or something.
The most annoying aspect of MSNBC and CNN, too, is how they constantly thank each other and pat themselves on the back. How many times does Wolf Blitzer need to say, “the best political team in television” before the whole world thinks it’s true?? Even more annoying is when Keith will say to Fineman or Wolff (?) “many thanks, sir.” Then they reply, “You’re welcome, Keith.” It’s really annoying when people thank each other for just doing their job which they are paid highly to do. “Thank you for coming on this evening.” As if, they are doing MSNBC a big favor. I have a friend who is an anchorman in VA, and he says his station is a “thank you free” zone. No on-air thank yous for just doing your job.
Tabbycat,
Thanks for that information. Steroids definitely could explain the puffiness. That is also a disease that is stress related. Interesting.
Silly, silly comment at 2:35.
Gary, as always, you did a great job with this post.
I love the idea of the press freaking out, but wait. Hasn’t that already happened?
FakeLeft:
Please leave, you are annoying the humans
@Gary: Melanie is right in that she apologized to the Kennedys, but also to anyone who may have been offended (I believe). She did attempt to clarify her remarks but, of course, the media focus was on her apology, as if it somehow confirmed her “guilt.”
At this point, if Obama is the nominee, I look forward to the bloodbath that awaits him in the GE [Insert hysterical screams of "Clinton supporter calls for Obama's murder!" here]. There must be a heavy price to be paid for what has been done to Clinton and the Democratic Party.
I think this will backfire.
Suggesting that Hillary might be hoping for Obama to be assassinated is profoundly obnoxious. It is also ridiculous. I also thought the Jesse Jackson comment was too.
People might buy into the politicking comments “fairytales”" etc cos in all fairness it’s hard to tell. But suggesting assassination is beyond the pale.
Obama should have immediately squashed it. It shows him up for what he’s actually been doing all the campaign, passive agressive comments.
The cling comment is totally different, Obama himself never said he didn’t mean it, he said he said it wrong.
And yes, Hillary’s campaign has actually suffered violence. So.
the left,
I imagine=my speculation. that’s pretty clear for even low proficiency readers
so i’m reprehensible for daring to point out how reprehensible obama is? oh yeah, forgot “the obama rulz” wherein any critique of his motivation is verboten..
now, “the left,” get lost. anyone who is an apologist for such behavior has no place here
I’m not bashing anyone who is mentally ill at all. Far from it. I frankly think substance abuse is more likely in Keith’s case. But tabbycat has offered other food for thought. I’m going to see what I can find out.
I wonder where Hillary is today. Does anyone know?
bostonboomer- probably not coke or crack, wasn’t as jittery, usually the jaw droops a bit. At least when I’m on it. But, hell, I’m not an anchor.
I deem your comments unacceptable
This really reminds me of the GOP during Monicagate. It was obvious to anyone who wasn’t deranged that they were hurting themselves and making Bill more popular with the rest of the country, but they couldn’t help themselves. They were like drug addicts.
Hate addicts?
Have you ever watched management deal with labor? Have you ever heard them talk about the problem (labor is always referred to as a problem)? Have you ever taken business courses where they talk about “controlling costs” (which means reducing or otherwise controlling the “units” – those of us who earn wages are “units”)?
There should be no great secret as to why the Clintons are attacked. Those who represent the interests of the big dollars are people who (1) study chess and (2) view the purpose of life as “maximizing shareholder value”.
It is a world stripped of normal humanity. It is a world where ethics means you have to stop paying attention to important stuff long enough to look at some new proposed (intrusive) rules, which hopefully can be got around.
If Clintons are messing with shareholder value, you just have to manipulate pieces until you have gotten them off the playing board.
That’s just business administration 101.
Obama’s economic policies are going to be a lot more acceptable to people who matter, as soon as that pesky little Clinton problem is taken out.
The overarching goal is to silence Hillary Clinton. The first goal is to get her out of the race; but if she won’t leave, then the media will ignore her, except when they can turn one of her innocuous comments into a cause celebre, and force her to apologize. That hurts her, and that’s what the media wants. The candidate who should be worried about being assassinated in this campaign is Clinton, because she has been the victim of the most savagely hateful campaign in history, run by the media and its corporate owners; enabled by the Obama campaign and the DNC which will not defend her.
Drudge is the lowest form of human life. But he is useful to the people who hate Clinton, who threatens corporate hegemony. So this is what we have sunk to as a so-called democracy.
the left, I told you to get lost. Don’t make me get katiebird…..
I wish we could get a more entertaining class of trolls. The good ones must be off for the long weekend.
The Left? Did I do something? Say something?
You are fake.
You are a fauxgressive
This place was started so we could get away from people like you.
I’m sure there are many people who would love to receive your pearls of wisdom. Why don’t you start your own blog? Fame and fortune awaits, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!
katie, “the left” is exhibiting poor manners. we’ve asked him several times politely to leave.
Hey Guys! I’ve been off researching TV Converter Boxes and haven’t been here.
I haven’t purged anything or anyone.
(squinting) what did I miss? Gary & BostonB?
The Left is working pretty hard to hijack this thread. I thnk Gary is right. He’s also boring–not much fun to toy with.
Whew — my dad just called about an Obama speech. Did anyone here see it?
@2:35 “the left” said that my post was reprehensible because it was me who was trying to score points off of RFK’s assassination. I told him to leave, myiq asked him to leave, but he’s just not getting it
(looking for info on Obama speech)
katie—what was it about????
If I was in a better mood I would squeeze some info from him, like whether he gets paid by the hour or by the word, but I’m still pissed about yesterday.
He gave another speech? Oh, joy. Was it another one about Wright? I think we heard recently that he had another one of those planned.
Katie,
What did your dad say? Was it on C-Span?
Davidson, it’s interesting that you say Hillary shouldn’t have apologized, because that’s exactly what my best friend said this morning. He was asking me what all the headlines were about, and, when I explained what had happened, his first comment was: “Why did she apologize? She should have attacked them for trying to twist her words.”
Once he said that, I knew he was right. Hillary needs to seize the narrative whenever something like this happens (and, unfortunately, the press seems determined to put words in her mouth). Witness the superb takedown of Obama by John McCain the other day, basically calling O an unpatriotic puppy whose only line of attack is to impugn the decency of others. I have to admit, it was masterful. At this point, I’d like to see Hillary go on one of those talk shows and really rip the media for what they’ve been doing this entire campaign.
Katiebird,
Obama is giving the commencement speech at Wesleyan U. in CT. Ted Kennedy was supposed to do it, and asked Obama to fill in.
C&L is ignoring the RFK fauxrage.
They are non-koolaid drinking Obama fans, they know it’s bullshit, so they aren’t pushing it or denouncing it.
They did nine posts in one day about the ABC debate, RFK – nada
The Left —
This site is a refuge for Hillary Supporters who are NOT free to participate in conversations at our former Blog Homes
We welcome respectful dialog, but it seems that you are dominating the conversation and causing unnecessary stress.
I know we’ve had fun together in the past, but please take a time-out for the rest of the day.
Maybe I’m parsing this too much. Judge for yourself.
Says David Axelrod, Obama’s chief strategist:
Bhutto’s death will “call into issue the judgment: who’s made the right judgments … Obviously, one of the reasons that Pakistan is in the distress that it’s in is because al-Qaeda is resurgent, has become more powerful within that country and that’s a consequence of us taking the eye off the ball and making the wrong judgment in going into Iraq. That’s a serious difference between these candidates and I’m sure that people will take that into consideration.”
He continues, according to the account on Time.com:
“She was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq, which we would submit, was one of the reasons why we were diverted from Afghanistan, Pakistan and al-Qaeda, who may have been players in this event today, so that’s a judgment she’ll have to defend.
In other words: Clinton’s judgment helped create the conditions that led to Bhutto’s assassination. (The failure of American foreign policy helped create the conditions that led to Bhutto’s assassination. The judgment of the American people — who, like Clinton, supported the war in 2002 — helped create the conditions that led to the assassination of Bhutto.
Did the Obama campaign mean that Hillary was responsible for Bhutto’s death.
So that lets Obamabots or trolls know that you are doing a great job keep up the good work you win.
You really help in convincing us to never vote for Obama.
Nobama
This November:
1. A write-in vote for Clinton, IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA
2. A vote for nobody, IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA
3. A vote for McCain, IS A VOTE FOR CLINTON
Because:
1. If Obama wins in the fall, Hillary will never be President and her and Bill are sent out to pasture as the Democratic party becomes the party of the Obamas
2. If Obama loses in the fall, Hillary becomes the de facto leader of the Democratic party and presumptive nominee in 2012
Will you allow the DNC and MSNBC to take away vote, or will you take material steps to re-take control of your party and your country?
It’s up to you!
Now go back and get your talking points for tommorrow.
I will post this again in your honor.
Peace
Hillary44 2008
Borrrrrrrring
Obama and Clinton were both in PR today. Obama gave a speech to a veterans group there, but the stories are all filled with minutia about the RFK fauxrage and nothing about what he actually said. Still looking….
@Grayslady: Exactly. The media already hates her so she’s not avoiding any further damage by “apologizing” for their framing. She should have stuck it to them, especially since she was comparing herself to RFK. At least, it would have given her supporters an easy way to take her side, which many are eager to do. Her apologizing makes it seem as if the media narrative is right, making it that much harder for her supporters to fight back.
The only possible reason she could have is if she heard from superdelegates or any Party backers that if she didn’t, she’d suffer for it. But even then, I don’t know how she could trust them after everything they’ve done to her.
And I agree with your friend about McCain: the man is a nimble, yet hard-hitting fighter. I guarantee you if the media was against him, he would fight back no matter what. The man’s a brawler.
Ted’s office spokesperson said they “accepted” Obama’s offer to fill in for him at the commencement. I think Obama offered for the PR and not that Sen. Kennedy requested it.
I SECOND THAT!
Grayslady: Oops, I should have written that I agree with you about McCain (Obviously, I agree with your friend about Clinton fighting back against the ever-hysterical media).
William, on May 24th, 2008 at 3:02 pm Said:
The overarching goal is to silence Hillary Clinton.
Exactly what I was thinking!
Katiebird:
Obama speech in PR:
It’s just vague generalities….
@BB: Those remarks just set him up for McCain to ask, “What exactly will you do and how? Don’t you need some experience, history of accomplishment to prove yes, you can?”
Marie,
We want Hillary to win the nomination this year and we aren’t focusing on any strategy about 2012. We think Hillary is the best candidate for the Democratic nomination. We also don’t advocate voting for McCain. We don’t do talking points here. We respect each other’s abilities to make our own choices.
Davidson,
It does seem a little bit irresponsible, because he shouldn’t be just throwing out comments about “fighting” in Pakistan. He really has now clue what he’s talking about, that’s clear. But then he talks about diplomacy. It really makes no sense. It sounds like he just said it off the top of his head, but it is in the prepared text.
Um, what’s the difference between “tough talk” and “tough diplomacy?”
I’m just an ignorant cousin-humpin’ racist hillbilly, so can someone explain it to me?
Charles: I just put up a new post on Wilentz’s piece.
Heheh, I’d love someone to ask him that. I’d prefer it not be McCain because I don’t want McCain to win (and I will NOT vote for him), but Hillary isn’t allowed to be “tough” on poor tender Obama. She might hurt his feelings if she asks him to explain what the hell he means by hope and change. But if Obama is handed the nomination, the “maverick”-loving, corporate-owned MSM will be happy to watch McCain rip into his carefully constructed facade and expose it for the big papier-mache ball of nothing that it is.
Charles:
I majored in history and minored in Poli-sci, and the latter is a joke.
Poli-sci is mostly theoretical BS with very little factual foundation.
bostonboomer, ““It’s time to end this war so we can finish the fight against al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan ”
ARE we fighting in Pakistan? Should we be?
Katiebird: We will be fighting in Pakistan if Odrama is elected.
They have nukes, and he wants to invade to go after OBL.
I might note by a 2:1 margin, more historians have endorsed Clinton. The opposite is true of political scientists. As historians are wont of saying: “We know better.”
When historians criticized W. back when he wanted to start a war, I remember reading a hatefest against historians.
One good thing to come out of this latest fake rage drama is that no way will Hillary even consider VP now. He’s toxic, the best thing for her to do is stay away from him and watch him go down in flames come November. Thank God, because any ticket with Obama gets a McCain vote from me.
Is it possible that Keith O. could be on drugs?
Bostonboomer, I don’t say this in a flip way having known more than a few people who struggled with substance abuse and/or mental health issues.. I actually posted something a few weeks ago saying that it looks like coke bloat, but maybe he is undiagnosed bipolar, maybe self-medicating. He doesn’t look good, has a terribly fragile ego, is clearly way too emotionally invested in this contest, is obsessive about certain targets of hatred, and his posts on the big orange cheeto blog are a little bizarre sometimes – check the one he put up not long after another unhinged “Special Comment” accusing Hillary of race baiting. Or his freakout after Hillary did an interview on the O’Reilly show.
Something isn’t right with him and at this point I’m less concerned about his anti-Hillary rants than I am that no one will intervene before he has a complete meltdown – you know MSNBC isn’t going to do it as long as he gets ratings. Trouble is, it’s hard to write this on a blog and be taken seriously, given that accusations of being insane and/or on drugs are part of the common discourse. But yes, something isn’t right with him.
Charles, I don’t pretend to have knowledge of the military situation. How far can candidates go in discussion military plans? Is he talking about an expansion of the war in that paragraph?
I read the KO was being treated for Chrones (sp?) disease – high doses of steriods
That could explain it, I regret that I didn’t read this post before. If that’s the case, still, I would hope some people around him would reign him in so that he doesn’t damage his reputation because he certainly may not realize on his own that treatment for a condition is causing him to take things personally and go over the top with the commentary.
dar1a,
Yes, I remember your post on coke bloat, and I read the link you posted at the time.
I am a psychologist, a recovering alcoholic and addict (26 years sober) and have cared for a mentally ill person over a period of years. Bipolar disorder and depression also run in my family so I know a lot about these disorders and have seen their effects.
I wasn’t really being snarky at all in my comments. I truly have the feeling that Keith is going off the rails. Posting all those diaries at DK just isn’t normal for a supposedly influential media figure. I’ve never seen another network person do anything like that. Someone should be editing his “special comments,” but I’m guessing that he got free reign to do what he wants in his latest contract. He is heading for trouble, I’d bet on it.
Keith Olberman has celiac disease, which is a sensitivity to wheat gluten. I don’t think that would require steroid treatment. You just eliminate the foods you are sensitive to.
http://www.csaceliacs.org/CountdownwithKeithOlbermann.php
So I’m back to wondering what is going on with him. It will probably come out eventually.
Katiebird,
He has talked before about going into Pakistan to catch bin Laden. I think at one point he just about triggered an international incident. Pakistan is technically our ally. Frankly, I think Obama is much more likely to use the military than Clinton–just one more reason I don’t trust him.
Sorry about the missinfo BB. I read that at Talkleft so I should have noted that I didn’t know that for sure.
dar1a,
If you see this, take a look at this picture of Keith. He has probably put on at least 50 pounds.
http://www.jossip.com/gossip/keith-olbermann/keith-olbermann-tells-a-viewer-to-kill-himself-20060615.php
He also apparently replies to e-mails and message board criticisms with foul languge and telling people to “kill yourself.” Apparently, when he left ESPN, he burned all his bridges there with some big incident. The guy is troubled, and he can’t seem to control his need to talk about and write everything he’s thinking.
tabbycat,
That’s OK. He may even have crohn’s disease. They are both lower digestive disorders. Thanks for the tip. I search for Crohn’s and found it. Those also related to irriable bowl syndrome. But mostly, Keith is wound too tight, lol!
bostonboomer, delurking briefly because my daughter has Celiacs. Before she was diagnosed, my beautiful, successful, intelligent beloved turned into a raging termagant overnight, to the point where I asked her to go visit a friend’s for a few weeks, so we could have a cooling off period. I didn’t hear from her for over a year, and it was only because she had internal bleeding and had to go to emergency several times (I found out later) that she was finally diagnosed. Once she had it under control, she once again became the woman I remembered, and she’s back in my life. She, however, didn’t gain weight or have bloating, once she was controlled. Quite the contrary, she’s 6 foot tall, and at 124 lbs, she’s skinny. Either KO is not under control, or there are other issues, and steroids do cause bloating and irrational behaviour. I do believe you are correct, in that his behavior is bizarre.
P.S. I also have a friend with Crohn’s, diagnosed over 20 years ago, and under control. She is also very thin, with no bloating, and no irrational impulses.
End of delurking, back to the shadows.
Afternoon friends and great job as usual Gary.
My take is pretty simple and not nearly as well-researched as Gary’s. This whole brouhaha reminds me of teenage boys who hang out and wait for someone to trip on the sidewalk and then giggle with glee.
The vehemence these childish and churlish oafs exhibit belies their disgruntlement with Grand Theft Auto IV. If only GTA IV was a bit more ghoulish this whole affair would have passed without so much as a whimper.
As for KO, his misogynistic bent is well-known and well documented in the tabs with his late night haunting of places to be seen in NYC. His take on this is nothing more than his play to his demographic, the same adolescent testosterone ridden viewers who still ride their playstation chairs in their parents’ basements. I find it entirely consistent and a bit telling that he duels with O’Reilly over whose ***** is larger (I’m sure you know that ***** means ratings).
Sen. Obama and his sychophants will ride this for all its worth because it is much easier to tear down Sen. Clinton than try and put the barest modicum of flesh on his state 4H winning speeches. It is so much easier to foist false outrage than explain the Quinnipiac poll showing him trailing Sen. Clinton in three all important swing states and trailing Sen. McCain in two of them.
When history writes of this primary, there will be a footnote cross-referencing the reader to the article on “Snake Oil Sales,” and the Obama campaign.
HT,
Thanks for the information. I’m glad your daughter is OK now. It sounds terrible! My brother has irriable bowel syndrome and it is agonizing for him at times.
And Drudge and the rest of them work for Karl Rove, who hatched the idea of using Obama to knock out Clinton in the first place. The ties between Obama and the G.O.P., inlcuding the Bush Admin., and even one of the Iraqi crooks who stole $650 million in reconstruction funds and now lives in Illinois are all well documented. Here’s an article which goes into depth and links to sources.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
You can alos click on my screen name for more story links.
Wanna really get sick and projectile vomit at the Obama campaign’s tactics?
It turns out that AT THE VERY SAME TIME that Obama gave his tepid “I take Hillary at her word” reply, his campaign was stoking the flames of this slanderous non-story by forwarding through email to all of their Press connections, video of Keith Obamamann’s spittle flecked “Speshil Komment”.
They operate just like the Bushies.
Obama acts like the big magnanimous man in front of the cameras, while he knows at the same time his campaign is swiftboating his opponent and deviously trying to destroy Hillary’s character and her career.
see for yourself:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/26/deny-distract-draw-away/
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