Clinton Cocktail Party: KY and OR Returns
Hi guys, I had a grueling 2.5 hour TC this morning with my international colleagues. I’m ready to relax. So, did anything good happen today?
We’re drinking, my friend, to the end of a long episode. So make it one for the ladies and one more for the road…
It ain’t over yet but I will be glad to put Puerto Rico away. My house needs a good cleaning. I think my kid grew three inches and I can’t even talk to the BFF without poll numbers tumbling out of my mouth. But oddly enough, CNN is reporting that 68% of exit poll participants are in no hurry to wrap this up. I think that means that they still want everyone to have a chance to vote and they are not ready to accept Obama as their nominee. The superdelegates should think about that and also consider that no one has been more inclusive of voters or more willing to reach out to her potential foes than Hillary. She really *does* unite. The superdelegates who are in the closet for her should be proud of that. She has emerged as a magnificent candidate and the voters in Kentucky are proving it. So, let’s lift a glass to the beginning of the end, or the end of the beginning?
Welcome to the Clinton Cocktail Party. This is the time of the day when we can relax with friends and friends to be. The bar is to the left of the door and Rico, our bartender with flair! is serving your favorite swill. Tonight’s special is an Oregon Coast Crab Shock but you can order anything you like.
I’ve been through Oregon once when I was a child. I couldn’t see much of the state because the trees kept getting in the way. It turns out that they *do* have some good musicians from Oregon. I must have been looking in the wrong place. I particularly like this one, Tom Grant, who blends smooth jazz, sparkling piano and a soupçon of improvization for an energetic fusion. Here is a compilation of some of his stuff:
Now that we’re near the end, let’s not blow it with any unnecessary roughness. If you feel the itch to throw a trigger word, consider leaving it with Florence, our lovely check room attendant. The waiters will be circulating shortly with crab cocktails, tempura calamari and roasted garlic for french bread. Please drink responsibly and tip your wait staff generously.
Whoa! Ronkseattle found this story about a vodka drinking contest where Hillary drank McCain under the table. Yess!! Get the lady some Grey Goose and a straw.
(You can listen to the whole story here. It’s one of the several stories.)
Filed under: Presidential Election 2008, cocktails | Tagged: cocktails, kentucky, Oregon, Tom Grant
Scotch OTR Rico, if you please. The crowd looks a bit thin tonight. I think they must still be hanging out at gary’s place.
“She has emerged as a magnificent candidate ”
absolutely.
(waving)
So far things look pretty good??
Yay! CNN says Hillary will win by a 2-1 margin.
They’ve already declared her the winner in Kentucky. No results are in yet from Oregon, because of the 3 hour time difference.
RD, you are the greatest and most gracious host.
Raising a chilly Sancerre to you for all you do and for the casual warmth and friendly rigorous intellectuality that you’ve inspired and nurtured in your blog-community.
You are a gem!
Rico, I’m allergic to shellfish — but please keep the good white wine flowing!
RD: I love your parties. I admire that you can stop, celebrate, and enjoy! I’m still working on some articles, but have a drink on me.
I’m so excited because the whole Hillary voters won’t vote for Obama has broken into the corporate media. Nightline last night, NYT and WP today, NYT covered Hillary bloggers for tomorrow, and they talked about it on CNN and Fox News tonight.
On CNN I think it was Jeffrey Toobin who said that Hillary is just whining and playing the victim and after all she really is a b*tch and she’s incredibly “agressive and abrasive.” Can you believe it? I’m not postive it was Toobin, because I heard it on the radio.
Terry McAuliffe is being interviewed on FOX and he’s great!
didn’t the exit polls in KY say that 72% of Hillary voters say they will not vote for Obama?
Murphy: Awww, go on.
No, really, go on!
Having a glass of chardonnay right now.. Well, a tea glass, I don’t own any proper wine glasses.
Terry Mac on Fox, indefatigable + cheerful as ever.
He Said (can we use this)
Hillary Clinton has won more votes than any other candidate in a Democratic Primary
ever
I just took at look at the recipe for the Oregon Coast Crab Shock. Anyone drinking that will be breathing fire for a couple minutes.
I’m really hoping for a 10% loss in Oregon but from what I’ve heard it’ll probably be around 15%. What a drag.
I REALLY hope that Senator Obama’s non-victory victory speech come back to bite him in the butt. At least the pundits keep on talking about his non-victory speech and 30 point loss in Kentucky in the same breath. That’s got to hurt.
I had to sop re-doing some framing in the new house. Gawd, my back is killing me.
Something strong. And keep them coming.
Tom Grant - One of my all time faves. Many nights in the small clubs, but he really soars out of doors … and Oregon is home to many fine outdoor music festivals (and fine outdoor music even at fairs and festivals centered on something other than music.
Rico, when you get a spare moment, por favor, fetch me a Pinot, from a vintage before Knudsen and Erath had their falling out. Some drink to remember, some drink to forget … now, where was I?
And here’s to RD pulling up that Estonia email and finding something worth tacking onto the main post while the night is still young. ish. as am I
Everclear and guava juice, please. You guys watch too much TV.
According to BTD, Chris Matthews just went against network rules by revealing that Obama won 2-1 with white men in Oregon. I guess Tweety felt something in his leg and couldn’t help from blabbing.
Rico? What’s the house wine?
Ruh-roh. I have an assignment.
lisadawn82:
I heard a report a little while ago that Obama is not going to claim victory, but will give a “thank you” speech. As in “thank you for my victory”? I don’t know. Sounds like a lot of backing and filling.
Tweety is now saying that no matter what Hillary says, Obama is going to get the most popular votes. Puerto Rico doesn’t matter because it doesn’t have any electoral votes.
Rico, I’ll have my mojito now.
Slowly easy my way back into real Cocktails.
Rico, La Peau Douce please.
Nobody is gonna stop me from celebrating another humiliation of The Victorious One. (How many does the DNC need?)
Mister just said,
“What do people who don’t look at the Internet think about this? They see Hillary win week after week. But all they hear is that she’s losing and when will she get out?
It must sound crazy to them.”
It is weird.
72% of Hillary voters say they will not vote for Obama
Yowza, are you serious? I mean.. I get it.. I never saw how his message could resonate in Appalachia, not that I’m personally familiar with the Kentucky part of it (only MD/WV), but - change change change? People don’t really like change there IMHO, it usually coming in the form of outsiders trying to mess things up.
D’oh, forgot to close the B tag, sorry.
While we’re at it, the world jazz supergroup Oregon desreves a mention.
First jazz to land on the moon, and all that.
Even FOX, kind as they are, think Hillary’s lost. It’s so weird. Like the very idea of TIED means nothing to them. Just by virtue of blocking Florida and Michigan.
To litigatormom -
Even though his speech is going to be a thank you, the original intent was for it to be a victory speech. So it’s bitting him twice. The first bite is that he had to walk that “Victory Speech” intent back. The second bite is that he’s going to loose big time in KY and the pundits are talking about his non-victory speech and huge loss in the same breath. That has got to suck for the campaign not matter what anyone else says. Overall it was a bad call by the Obama campaign.
Rico, I feel the need for something in a huge glass that is pretty and fruity, but potent. You have something like that? You do? Great! It’s called a what? A “Hillary Hit”? That’s a hoot! I think I will have two of them, especially if they come with a cute little straw.
Katiebird,
I had to turn of Fox when they started asking “What does Hillary want?” VP? Majority leader? Her debts paid off?
No, you morons, she wants to be the nominee and win the election. And the DNC wants to lose.
riverdaughter? Are you working tonight?
Yolanda,
Don’t forget the umbrella.
bostonboomer — I just think it’s funny.
Since I don’t actually see a path to the nomination that includes Obama winning.
Oh, now Shepherd Smith.
Only 50% of voting Democrats in Ky will vote for Obama. 37% will vote for McCain and the rest will stay home [unfortunate]. But it shows the temper of the voters in these swing + necessary GE states, and the Coal Belt [including a band between W.Va. Ky, Ohio and Pa, running down into TN] is critical for a Democratic win in November. Barack Obama has proven himself puny, a no-win in these areas. How the DNC expects to win with this obvious weakness is beyond me.
But Senator Clinton showed her mettle today. And . . . she had her second to best month of fund raising in April. It ain’t over!
They took West Virginia from our girl and downplayed her strides in NC, and they can try to do the same thing tonight . . . but we’re older and wiser now.
If they force the precious down our throats and try to make us swallow him, we will SPIT him out!
Yes, I did say that.
and I mean it. The sweetie wing of the democratic party will fight to get our party back, and if that means voting for McCain, we will.
For all the grandmas, waitresses, gay people, feminists, asians, hispanics, working class white guys, working class everybody, single parents, people with college loans, people who dont answer the phone bc of bill collectors, people who cant fill the tank this week . . .
This is OUR PARTY, we own it.
Let him choreograph his little coronation in Iowa. We’ll still be here in the morning, and tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow.
We sweetie democrats are the soul of this party. our hearts and minds were moved by the civil rights movement, the feminist movement, the gay rights movement. We made the Democratic Party the safe haven for the working class, the middle class, the outclassed, and the outcast.
It is still our party no matter how loud they yell or how many insults they hurl.
Dont back down. Dont give up. Dont lose hope.
If we cant get our girl in the white house, we will make damn sure they dont take our power away along with our votes.
We are united, we are politically educated, we are angry, and we VOTE.
Listen to Charles Lemos, riverdaughter, CB, Mawm, Pat Johnson, Lambert, katiebird, kim, and all the other brilliant voices here.
We are 17 million strong. We can change the course this country is on. We can remind the democratic party what it means to be patriotic, compassionate, and fair.
We are the heart and soul of the democratic party and any movement that tries to cut us out will die. Because we’re also actually the brains.
Be a sweetie. Vote McCain. *
*unless of course the dnc comes to its senses and nominates the best dem candidate in at least 20 years, hillary clinton.
I’m with you, Katie. Somehow, I’m still convinced that Hillary will win in the end. I don’t see how she can lose. Maybe I’m crazy, but I think there will be a lot of water under the bridge before August.
Hillary is now leading by 22%.
dar1a—
One of my brothers married a woman from Kentucky. She grew up in a house that had dirt floors until she was five, when her dad put plywood on the groud.
She worked her way through college and got a degree in math (not the Math). When she married my brother, she bought her mother the first new dress she ever had.
Wendy (my sis-in-law) is tough, smart, and pragmatic. She’s not afraid of change—she is distrustful of change for its own sake.
Don’t know where I’m going with this. Maybe I need one of those Everclear and guava things someone else ordered.
katiebird, you should check out the Nation, Alterman is saying that THE MEDIA has been propagating Clinton’s “lies” that she can still win this even though of course, she’s been out of it since The Almighty sent his son to save us 46 years ago.
I want whatever he’s drinking, in lieu of a trip to the alternate universe where he resides.
bostonboomer. That’s what I think. How many bad weeks can he have before people really sit up and notice?
It’s NOT just West Virginia last week. She’s been winning consistently since Texas, Ohio Rhode Island
BO has been told by everyone - media, other political pundits, his advisers, Republicans and Lord knows who else - that he is the Democratic candidate. He believes them. He will make a statement along the lines that his campaign knew that HC would win these primaries and that he wishes her well. He will then dismiss her entirely, just as he did before. BLECKKK! Even the booze doesn’t take that horrible taste out of my mouth.
Rico, might I trouble you for a Glenfiddich 18.
Since I was born, raised and lived in KY for the better part of my life, I’m really happy tonight.
I’m chortling as to the results in the Commonwealth tonight courtesy of John King’s magic finger. What the pundits don’t realize is that western KY can more than double Louisville/Jefferson County and I’m really surprised that Obama is only winning Jeff Co. by 1%.
Folks, this is going to be one big win tonight for Sen. Clinton. It might well be 35-40%.
Rico, please make mine a double and I’m thanking you.
Little Sister, I’m not allowed to read Alterman. (shaking head) It’s a real loss, but he’s a danger to me and (by extension) my family.
I hope you don’t mind that American Idol is on the one TV at the Back. Kansas City’s own David Cook is a finalist and I could get fired if I didn’t watch at least part of it.
Holy Hemiola! She’s trouncing him in Kentucky. What a HUMILIATING defeat for the Presumptuous Nominee. (Did I do that right, MABlue?)
rd: 62-31 - wow!!!
does anyone know if she’s going to be making a speech on cspan or anything?
Great job RD!
That makes me enjoy my Peau Douce (Soft Skin) even more.
cspan just answered my question….speaking shortly on CSPAN2
Hey everybody!
Been catching up to the news, RISE HILLARY RISE!!!
Fox News is talking about the high national security threat of an Obama presidency, using the comparsion of JFK who met directly with Khruschev (sp?) and then Carter with the Iran mess.
MS-NBC, (I peeked) talked with Terry McAuliffe, he was beaming out the popular vote, CNN - blah- blahing.
NEWS: I was called back by FDR Tampa, (Florida Demands Representation.
Yes, Free bus & lodging for FL protestors, food is on your own.
Buses will leave Thursday in the morning, arrive early Friday AM, then Friday is a freetime day, then Saturday, all day camping out protest. The location has not been revealed yet, but the FDR has an idea of where it’ll be but won’t reveal those details so the DNC won’t change the location.
Also, there is a planned protest outside of the St. Pete Times Forum in downtown Tampa at 10:30am, Obama’s rally (which the DNC PAID FOR!!!) is scheduled to be there tomorrow morning.
Blaine (FDR coordinator) said that secret service & police will be all over the place, so there was a slight risk to go. I can’t make it since I’m working, I wish I had more time to plan it out.
Gary, is this her victory speech?
hey…my partner john david is getting through on the hillary line on Cspan2…..
I’m listening to POTUS 08 on XM, and she still isn’t speaking yet. Nothing on C-span. I’m sure they’ll have her speech on Fox and CNN. They’d better have it on!
I think so katie
Gary!!
riversdaughter-
Great party over here! We definitely have reason to celebrate tonight with Hillary’s crushing win in Kentucky today! So may I please have a glass of good Chardonnay to celebrate? (Hey, who said the Obamacans are the only ones who like good vino?)
“Don’t know where I’m going with this.”
Actually, Ohio, I found your anecdote most touching and compelling. And where you went with this is to enlighten those steeped in archane stereotypes — of the worst sort. Wendy appears to represent some of the best stock American has to offer; inspiring many hard-working, earnest, thoughtful, social conscious and active citizens. So here’s to Wendy!
She’s going to speak now. She’s on the stage.
she’s on now cspan2!
In fact Ohio, I just realized I was waiting to hear more. I read your story out loud it was so riveting.
Rico, give me what you gave me the last time we saw each other.
No, no that! I meant the Patron Silver, of course!
Hillary to speak soon!
Hillary is leading 64-32!
boomer — ‘bitch” alert — Toobin was reporting on a columnist who referred to Hillary as a bitch, using that as an example of misogynist treatment.
Then GOP consultant Alex Castellanos came on and actually defended calling HIllary a “bitch”!!!
Somebody get Donna to the table, pronto! This is going to be hot!
Here she is…
She’s a class act to mention Ted Kennedy within two minutes of starting her victory speech in KY. What a great lady. She deserves so much better than this primary race.
She looks beautiful. I don’t know how she does it. It has to be because she really has found her voice. She has decided to just be herself and people love her for it.
HRC re Ted Kennedy - “He’s been with us in all our fights, and now we’re with him now in his”
She IS so beautiful. And well-voiced. BostonBoomer, I love her.
ronk, OK, I’m sorry for what I said about Jeffrey Toobin earlier. That was amazing. It sounded like Donna Brazile was even upset.
Oh wow, that was a very touching tribute to Ted Kennedy.
(whispering) I’m sorry you guys had to see it. What channel?
” …Go to HillaryClinton.com….” too cute. These folks are reeeeallly into this victory speech. She has really reached these people.
I think folks are really energized that this could be their time to make a difference in this primary.
THIS is not a losing campaign.
I love the guy who claps with the boxing gloves
It’s such a blast to be backing the good guy in the race. Too. Much. Fun.
One of my brothers married a woman from Kentucky..
thanks for your post, Ohio. maybe I should have tried to be more precise, but Obama’s notion of “change” has deliberately never seemed to be precise. I grew up in a town that was poor but not like that, though my good friend’s mother was a nurse practitiioner and made calls at houses way out in rural parts of western PA and saw plenty of folks living in extreme poverty.
I’ve been a little sensitive about the whole thing hearing over and over (and recently that diary at the cheeto place that got linked at many blogs) that it’s Appalachian voters’ fault (those ignorant racists, right?) that they just haven’t been able to support Obama. And I don’t buy it, unless you want to fault the voters for turning down a message that doesn’t speak to their concerns and their values, and for turning down a candidate who can hardly be bothered to ask for their votes. I’m also extremely upset to think the Democratic Party under Obama would probably flat out turn its back on the region I’m from, I get why some people say (including my father & his friends) that they didn’t leave the party, the party left them.
we will have a nominee, whoever SHE may be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(nodding!!!)
riverdaughter, Grinning is so much better than holding our noses
Watching HRC give her speech.
As we say in my neck of the wood, “This Lady ain’t going nowhere”.
Deal with it.
I’ve recently talked w/ Obama supporters who actually think folks from KY, WV et al are stupid and uneducated. It was very disturbing to hear their rational.
“We will have a nominee, whomever she may be…” too cute, I love her.
Just got home. AND just in time to listen to Hillary speak to her people in KY, and everywhere else.
I Love Hillary!!! WooHoo!!!
*sighs* She is so classy. I can’t believe how loyal she’s been, considering the way she’s been treated. The contrast between Clinton and the rest of this party could not be starker.
That was perfect, “whoever she may be.” Compared to Hillary, Obama looks like such a loser. I got my tax refund today, and I’m going to send a little chunk of it to Hillary.
Wow, 34 points right now. Good lord.
I can’t believe how loyal she’s been, considering the way she’s been treated.
Isn’t that the truth? I tell ya, for this Madame Hillary deserves a Nobel Peace nod.
She makes the best speeches we’ve had in years and years. They’re classic
bostonboomer, on May 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pm Said:
According to BTD, Chris Matthews just went against network rules by revealing that Obama won 2-1 with white men in Oregon. I guess Tweety felt something in his leg and couldn’t help from blabbing.
LOL!!
MSNBC is dissing PR, according to BTD:
And it begins. Chris Matthews tonight and previously. Keith Olbermann and Dana Milbank did it before. Puerto Rico is a big joke to them. The DNC said they have a say in the process of deciding who our nominee will be. But count their votes? Not to the bigots at NBC.
The ugly racism and bigotry of NBC now joins the previously ugly sexism and misogyny. Here it comes.
NBC has no decency. None.
I’ve recently talked w/ Obama supporters who actually think folks from KY, WV et al are stupid and uneducated.
Yeah I’ve read plenty of blog comments to that effect lately. First, that’s really offensive, people are who they are and no more or less intelligent than any other state. Second, what is with this attitude among Democrats that if some voters aren’t good enough by their standards, we don’t give a shit about them, aren’t interested in how policy affects them, and don’t want their support? WTF
Special Edition of Jeopardy for all Conflucians, especially for litigatormom:
Answer: “Because he’s a mental patient. That’s why.”
I think this has been one of her best speeches. The crowd was so with her and she seemed so grounded. No, no MSM I did not say she was in the ground. Pleeze. I want her to be my President so much, oh the hell with it , if Obama can just declare things, then “I declare Hillary Clinton President”
hahahah, I don’t usually catch MSNBC, but I was over at a neightbor’s house and she had it on. Chris and Keith are tres grim! Not happy boys at all. There is no lightness or excitement to the commentary as there usually is on primary nights. Tim Russert was just gettting ready to explain that Obama has now gotten so many pledged delegates that Hillary can’t hope to catch up with him - or some such thing.
What a bunch of tools.
Hey folks! Great speech, and I’m going to sleep before OR is called, so it should be a good night. Heh.
I have an off topic question. How can I get in touch with riverdaughter? I received a survey from the DNC today, and it looks like a good place to make my views known (again) regarding Mi & FL. Anyway, I scanned it in and I thought she might be interested. I’ve got it on my flickr account. Will post links if people think it’s a good idea.
They are really ripping Obama on Fox right now. Making fun of him for what he has said about negotiating with Iran, etc.
she’s gained almost 200K votes on him so far. tally is up at RCP. check out pop vote total w/ FL/MI she’s up 208k!!!
oops here’s link
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
elixir: I wonder those fools never make those same offensive comments about Latinos or Asians. And we voted for her in higher percentages than did whites.
Bastards. All of ‘em.
daria g, seems like this idea that Appalachian voters are obligated to prove something by voting for Obama is all that the DHinMi’s of this party have to offer, and that’s why nobody wants them running anything. They seem to think that voters should be grovelling to them begging for permission to cast their votes for the cool kids to get into the club. The idea that politicans are supposed to represent people and are supposed to appeal to them and respectfully request the honor of their votes is so over, apparently. It’s like they’re using some bizarre form of reverse psychology.
annabelle,
Is it something we could print out and fill in? I’d do it for sure. Do you have your real e-mail in your signature?
I don’t have cable, so you guys will have to fill me in, are they talking about how she is not really winning by 35%, but because of rounding it is really only 34%
Ack! I meant to write: “I wonder why those fools never…”
Here’s hoping OR is not horribly bad.
Gary!! I’m so happy to see those numbers.
Rico,
I just got off work, and would like a Glen Morangie neat to celebrate this WINNING campaign. I am so proud of the future Madam President.
Bless her for her dignity and graciousness to Ted Kennedy. What a lady.
My candidate.
BB,
No, it’s a directed survey, so only the person it is sent to can return it. They are saying in the letter that this is the survey they are sending to the Leadership, and that I was selected as an average voter to represent Jeffersonville, IN, where I live. I have to return in 72 hours. I dunno if the tone is marketing, or it really is selective.
{{Joanie}} xxoo
Do you actually have a night off? Wow.
Hi all! Kentucky is looking really good! I’m wondering if she’ll get closer to 40% with the rest of the results…
I’m really interested in Oregon too.
Lori,
That’s interesting about the MSNBC boyz. I wonder if Hillary did better in Oregon than we expected. They might be upset because of the exit polls. Everyone knew Hillary would crush him in KY.
Oh, about my e-mail. annabelle AT rcltd DOT org
I don’t open stuff I don’t recognize, so put your username or the Confluence in the subject line if you contact me, okay? Thanks!
she could very well erase his entire pop vote gain in NC tonight! he won by 225K in NC, she’s up by about 210K now.
I think riverdaughter had to do something for work, but she will see your message eventually.
Is there room for one more in here tonight? Hillary looks so presidential! How can anyone not vote for her?
Gary, didn’t she make some progress on that last week in West Virginia too?
Gary,
I guess they can’t do exit polls from Oregon because it’s mail-in? When will we know what happened there?
Hi Pat!
Hillary gave a wonderful speech. She looked so radiant!
Great speech, and I’m going to sleep before OR is called, so it should be a good night. Heh.
Anna, you really made me chuckle there. Thanks for that. And I’ll likely be taking your lead and tuning into the season finale of Dancing With The Stars - come on Kristie!
“The New York Times reported this story: on a trip to Estonia Senators McCain and Hillary Clinton got into a vodka-drinking contest. No, no, see that shows you how two sides can get together. When a McCain and a Clinton can both end up acting like a Kennedy. When Hillary asked him if he wanted to go out for a cold one, Senator McCain said no thanks, I’m married.” –Jay Leno
July 29, 2006
2008 May Test Clinton’s Bond With McCain
By ANNE E. KORNBLUT
WASHINGTON, July 28 — Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest.
Delighted, the leader of the delegation, Senator John McCain, quickly agreed. The after-dinner drinks went so well — memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much — that Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, later told people how unexpectedly engaging he found Mrs. Clinton to be. “One of the guys” was the way he described Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, to some Republican colleagues.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/washington/29rivals.html?pagewanted=print
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/NYT_Senators_Clinton_McCain_held_vodkadrinking_0728.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/28/AR2006072802041.html
Hi Pat — I think she’s the best looking Presidential Candidate ever. I can’t believe I don’t have to worry about a candidate’s weight. Being on the campaign trail is so horrible for people with food issues. But, she looks better than ever.
(not that looks matter that much to me — but I think we’d be hearing about it if she was gaining weight. We sure did with President Clinton and Gore.)
bostonboomer, about PR & MSNBC-
Didn’t you get the memo?
The DNC doesn’t need Latinos to win an election!
MABlue, the question is, why does Mr. Keith Olbermann constantly post defensive, self-aggrandizing diaries at the big orange cheeto blog?
I was watching Bill and started thinking about that Orwell quote:
I was thinking I sleep peaceably in my bed because men and women like Bill and Hillary stand ready to do wonkery on my behalf. I’m just so glad that there are people like those two who are just smarter, more effective and more tenacious than I am.
They are an extraordinary pair. I hope Hillary wins.
bboomer- I think polls close at 11pm eastern. I don’t know how they do the exits but apparently they have something according to the news about Matthews leaking info that men wen obama 2-1…….. I’m interested to see the total votes though. Oregon is not a very big state…smaller in population than Kentucky I think. Just dont’ know if they have more dems but I don’t think so, KY is about 55% dem I think…
By the way, no offense to mental patients, of which more than a few of my friends have been & I’ve had a bit of experience myself that I feel comfortable making some jokes about it. Olbermann does seem to be somewhat unhinged.
(tearing up) Oh, {{Lori}}
bostonboomer, on May 20th, 2008 at 8:51 pm Said:
Gary,
I guess they can’t do exit polls from Oregon because it’s mail-in? When will we know what happened there?
Over at Talk Left BTD said that Tweety broke station rules and talked about Oregon exit polls.
Here goes the link -
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/20/192531/680
I guess men went 2-1 for Obama but Tweety said nothing about women voters.
Sleazy Obama tactics: releasing his campaign funding in April during the Clinton speech!
These people have ZERO RESPECT!
POPULAR VOTE
ELECTORAL MAP.
Keith Obamaman is P-Oed his team got pwed!
OK, I’m an Oregonian and I feel that Hillary may do better than expected. I haven’t been looking at any polls or watching TV news or reading any political blogs. I just feel hopeful. Bill and Chelsea campaigned a lot in rural Oregon, and I have to believe that will help Hillary.
daria, Little Sister — DHinMI’s thinly coded message is that Hillary’s voters are hillbilies, with all the stereotypical humor that entails.
There’s one humungous defect in his supporting analysis, however … and I may have a little fun with it, in connection with a larger point of interest to superdelegates.
SM,
Hillary won every demographic in KY–every age group, college education, no college, men, women, independents, everything. Except AA’s probably. I don’t know how they went, but no a big percentage of KY population.
MABlue - Answer: “Because he’s a mental patient. That’s why.”
Question: Why does Chris Matthews feel imaginary things running up and down his legs?
oops, guess the pony didn’t do so well in the derby.
ronk,
I’m looking forward to it. That was one of the most disgusting diaries I’ve ever seen at DK–and that’s saying something. And some of the comments!
Hi sis! I do have a night off–not even kids right now. I love these cocktail parties. I just love being in this sane universe!!
I’m such a crybaby. I just can’t stop tearing up over Hillary and her fighting spirit. I agree, I just don’t visualize her NOT as the nominee. Hillary giving up?Ain’t gonna happen.
SM: Chris Matthews’ leg tingles
It’s probably the Mini Obama.
Okay, I peeked and I have to concur that Tweety, Tater and Doltermann look like they have an egg broken inside of them. Being from KY I can make such country comparisons tonight especially since I’ve had a couple of Fiddichs.
You see, chickens who have an egg broken inside them are really ailing, lifeless, off-kilter and look as if the great coop in the sky is calling.
Rico, keep them coming, I might start telling jokes — gee, I’m having fun.
MABlue,
It sounds a little bit like narcotic withdrawal. I wonder if Chris is into the pain killers. Meanwhile Keith looks so bloated. Is it his girlfriend’s cooking or something more sinister?
I have to say again. she erased his 225,000 pop vote win in NC tonight, and she did it with half the voters. 1.5 million in NC.. about 600K in kentucky. That’s huge
bostonboomer, at 8:37 pm
I don’t recall them (Tweety and KO) disrespecting Guam. All 4 votes. (and that all of 7 votes made the difference)
that tingle up Tweety’s leg must really be sumthin’
dar1a g:
It’s a very good one, but here it is:
Answer: “Because he’s a mental patient. That’s why.”
Question: “Why did MABlue turn on MessNBC?”
Now I am convinced. I’ll rather watch a goat’s vomiting competition.
Lori - wow.
That is why I love the Clintons. They fight for us.
And people hate them because they fight for us.
WHOEVER SHE MAY BE!
You better believe that!
Hillary:
“You never gave up on me and I’ll never give up on you!”
I’ve never heard Obama say anything like that. His speeches are always about voters doing something for him.
not to mention the 150K in WV!
(nodding) They do look very subdued and grim.
Wow. Still, I’m NOT going to count on a win.
Leslie,
LOL! I wonder when they are going to finish that recount in Guam. BO only won by one vote.
I cannot tell you in words how much you guys have come to mean to me over the last few months. Your personalities are fully developed even in the blogosphere.
And because of the camraderie that has been established on this blog I have just made a $50.00 donation to Hillary with you all in mind. I am pleased to announce that it has been accepted on your behalf!
Russert channels Obama….
Bostonboomer, absolutely - and what the stupid bought by Obama dollars MSM don’t point out is that she had them.
That is, until Michelle Obama said “Black people, WAKE UP, this is your time…”
{{Pat}}
Gary,
That is so great! Barry is going to look deflated at his “victory speech.” How can she not win the nomination? Tell me that.
I don’t know what’s wrong with being a hillbilly anyway. I mean, I know there’s a whole other level of hillbilly when you go way off the beaten track out there, but since when were a good number of Democrats looking down on others. (Probably since a while and I overlooked it.)
Pat,
The feeling is mutual. Your sparkling personality comes through in your writing. I’m so glad we all found Riverdaughter’s place and “met” each other.
I’d love to see Hillary win in Oregon.
There have been a lot of shockers in this campaign. Maybe that would be one of them?
Hillary has 65% of the Dem vote and McCain has only 73% of the Rep. vote. That is a little surprising, since Hillary is running against the party’s ‘heir’ apparent and McCain is running unopposed. I saw in the exit polls that 55% of the people said that Edwards’ endorsement had an impact on their vote. From these returns it looks like it made them all mad and they all voted for Hillary.
I don’t see how he can recover the momentum. The momentum is now all hers. The SDs would have to stand in the way of the prevailing wind and at odds with the voters of the United States. Not that it would be the first time….
this morning on the way to work I tuned in to a right wing talk radio station. the dude was yelling about Obama saying it’s unacceptable to criticize Michelle. he said if he had said it hurts his feelings or her feelings, or even that it pisses him off, that would be one thing, but his point was who is Obama to lecture us on what is or is not acceptable.
he’s correct. the democratic party has created a monster, just as the gop did with their sock puppet.
darla,
There’s nothing wrong with being a hillbilly. My ancestors were hillbillies in southern Indiana and redneck farmers in North Dakota and Minnesota. I’m proud of my roots.
Tweety seems sort of skeptical of Obama’s strength — Russert is still strong for The Precious.
KY made me a very happy woman tonight, and yes, it’s the tingly kind!
BMC, on behalf of our victorious senator who challenged McCain to a vodka shot contest, all vodka shots are all on me!
Wow. That scotch went to my head. Now I can’t get Tom Jones’ “She’s a lady out of my head.
“Well she’s all you’d ever want–she’s the kind you’d like to flaunt and take to dinner. She’s got style she’s got grace she’s a winner!!
She’s a lady…whoa whoa whoa… she’s a lady..and the lady is MINE.”
(giggle) hick-up!
Final results in KY 66-30. 36 points, almost as bad as WV. This is incredible. Something is really shifting out there.
“Something is happening, and you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Obama?”
– credit to Bob Dylan from Duluth, MN–oooh redneck country.
I just signed up to go to DC on May 31, to demonstrate before the DNC to count the FL (and Mich) votes. Is anyone else planning on going? Things are looking up and we need to keep the pressure on. Come on, now that Rico has you all liquored up I need some commitment here.
Katiebird, because Russert wants the MATH.
Tweety McTingle KNOWS that Hillary & Terry McAuliffe is right.
And what got him to ponder was what Terry said, notice the change thereafter.
Terry mentioned GORE. Same arguement we’ve been making. Terry said in way, “This is Gore 2000 again, how are you going to nominate a Dem candidate that doesn’t have the the popular vote?”
It’s going through Tweety’s mind. He’s a Democrat, a jerk Democrat, but remember, he worked with Tip O’Neill, Edward Kennedy & John Kerry’s godfather in the senate.
katiebird: I hope you are eating some digestive crackers to go with your drink because if you are tuned into MSMBC you are going to need something to coat your stomache. I am depending on this blog for updates because all networks are making me very angry with their soft putdowns. I do have to say I tuned in to Fox (bless me Father) and Laura Ingram was even nice in her remarks about Hillary. The world is turning upside down!
Rico: I am in the mood for a mimosa.
Pat, you’re a mensch!
your delight in finding like-minded souls comes through in every post. it’s a wonderful feeling to realize you’re not alone. imagine of there was no internet - we would have all thought Hillary was done months ago if all we had was t.v. to go on.
There’s an hilarious meltdown in diary form over at Cheetohville. I know, I know, I’m not supposed to go there, but someone sent me the link and I couldn’t resist.
omg, did Obama really just say “ask not what your country can do for you, or what you can do for your country. rather, ask what you can do for me”????
nah, just kidding. he didn’t. I made it up. but it’s not all that far-fetched, is it?
hey now, Bob Dylan is from Hibbing, MN. And AFAIK the Iron Range does kinda get a bad rap as being a little.. the hillbilly part of the region. (I have family there too doncha know.)
kiki: It is incredible isn’t it? And the contributors like rd, katiebird, boston boomer, Gary and all the posters who come here add so much knowledge and insight and it never gets nasty. We are all so far flung, all so divergent, all with so many life stories and experiences, yet we are all dedicated to the principles that have shaped us. Having a candidate who shares her life with us is touching. Her valiant efforts will always be a part of who we are. Hope I didn’t sound too corny but she is so special.
WHY TF did Kentucky give Obama 2 extra delegates?????????
Now he’s reached his “milestone” of more than half the “pledged.”
She gives him an azz whooping of biblical proportions, and now he gets 2 friggin delegates.
darla,
That’s right. But my family is fromt the North Country on both sides, so it’s OK for me to say it.
I looked around for Oregon specific blogs and saw a ton of Hillary support, but it had a bunch of out of towners.
There were a bunch of repeat comments by male-ish names saying ‘we are going to prove we aren’t racist like WV today!’.
I wonder if males went obama 2-1 (per tweety) how the females voted. I don’t know if registered democrats in Oregon has women out numbering men.
Maybe we need to get someone to organize a “Million Voter March” on Washington?
Lori: that’s a pretty potent word salad there. Someone should deinitely be shrink wrapped for our protection.
Rico — Show me what the Sokol-Blosser’s have been doing lately.
Goddamn CSPAN anchor was even carrying the BO08 party line, trying to talk down pro-Hillary callers, claiming it’s mathematically impossible for her to win.
SM,
He won two counties in KY. What a loser! Hannity is making fun of Obama’s flip flop on Iran. They are making fun of the way Obama talks with all the uh’s. God they are going to destroy him in the GE.
dar1a g ?? Hibbing? We always stop there on our way to Cornucopia, WI.
People, I’m mad now.
CNN just announced that KY gave Obama two extra delegates.
Oh dear, I’ve had Fox on because they don’t hate Hillary, and they just played Obama this weekend saying in a Q&A that Iran is tiny, doesn’t have a strong military, isn’t a serious threat etc., and then today (yesterday?) saying in a speech that Iran is a grave threat. Ugh. I mean, you can’t do that.
Lordy, lordy, I couldn’t do it without all of you. I hope the NYTimes reference shows people that we are as smart and creative as Obama’s supporters and as smart, creative, courageous and hard working as Clinton’s supporters.
{{Group hug}}
Honora, on May 20th, 2008 at 9:14 pm Said:
I just signed up to go to DC on May 31, to demonstrate before the DNC to count the FL (and Mich) votes
Good for you. I wish I could go but I can’t afford it.
Pat, you are going to make me cry.
“Damn, no wonder Obama does not want to waste time campaigning in your state. You voted for Bush by a 60% - 40% margin in 2004″
what these dumbasses don’t get is that the people who voted overwhelmingly for hillary tonight were part of that losing 40% that voted against Bush in 2004. What an arrogrant prick to lecture those loyal democrats who want to have a voice in who their nominee should be this go around since the last couple of picks haven’t worked out so well, especially in their state. I wonder why we should listen to them………………..
RD - I just made it through the comments. Holy Moly!
And this:
{{Riverdaughter}} You are the best!
{{Conflucians}} I love you guys!
Hehe, bostonboomer did you see the North Country movie? I believe a few of my distant cousins were extras in it (as were entire towns out there, granted). Katiebird - yes, he’s from Hibbing, bailed out of there as soon as he could, his relatives were there (there Zimmermans) and ran a store in town..
Lori, that post was insane! Must be some bathrobe wearing, baseball hat turned backward, pot smoking, Dungeon and Dragons expert, 19 yr old in the basement of Mom and Dad’s house who didn’t get fed tonight. Jesus, somebody needs to do a “quality of life check” visit to that house.
Boston, I was on Fox too. Every panelist is tearing him to shreads and rightfully so.
Obama is not a foreign relations expert at all. He made so many flubs this week, espeically with the Afghanis speking Arabic (not true)!
The whole Michelle Obama thing, if he didn’t want anybody picking on his wife, tell her to stay home & keep doing her attorney work.
SM,
The delegates haven’t been allocated yet. Don’t pay any attention to them. Turn off the TV!!!!!!!
{{{Group Hug}}}
Pat — I can’t name everyone — I’m sure to leave someone out. But, I love you guys!! More hugging
Lori:
You’ve got some gold there.
Who wrote that diary, Lennie Small? Wow!
bb and rd: Back at ya!
Boston, another thing about the Iran/Bush/Knesset visit.
Bush was talking about Carter visiting Hamas, IMO, rather than Obama. But NOOOO, Mr. Unity Pony said it was a direct attack on HIM.
OK bostonboomer, Google reveals the Duluth part..
I didn’t know that actually. my family is closer to Hibbing than Duluth, so I always heard about that!
MessNBO is making sense right now saying the Precious made a BIG mistake by writing off Appalachia and ignoring “an entire part of the country”.
Saying BO is projecting a “very elitist” picture and his is stupid and short-sighted. (Joe Scarborough)
I’m glad I switched from the baseball game.
katiebird: Don’t get off the couch.
HUGS TO ALL OF YOU!!!
Leslie, Joe is right!
How can Obama claim, “people vote for me when I campign & meet them” then REFUSES to campaign there, to turn around and claim it was Fox’s fault???
Is Joe Scarborough back? I had wondered where he was. I kind of got the feeling he admires Hillary. Along with Pat Buchanan and Craig Crawford that makes a total of 3 out of MSM.
@ Davidson 8:43:
Yeah, and they keep saying how Obama’s going to clean house once he’s in office. They are so obtuse and self focused.
Lori, I just caught up on that diary & comments — shocking.
Riverdaughter, I remember the first day I came here. And you encouraging me to break away from that horrible place. It seemed impossible to imagine at the time.
But here we are. And that’s all so alien. I can’t believe it ever meant ANYTHING to me.
It’s nothing to me now.
And you said that would happen.
Rico- a nice Kentucky bourbon, please. Do you have any Buffalo Trace? If not, Jim Beam Black is fine.
I don’t know what will happen here in Oregon. Lots of ballots are coming in at the end here. A little less than an hour and a half to go. The Clintons campaigned like crazy here, going to lots a small towns that still display photos of the last big presidential primary here– 1968 when Bobby Kennedy campaigned all over the state.
I do think Obama will win here, but I don’t think it will be anything resembling a blow-out.
Ah, Pat — I’m sober enough. Just drunk on election returns and love.
Obama couldn’t go to KY because of Fox News and some nasty e-mails that had been sent out. Somebody please pass the cheese to go with that w(h)ine.
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:
DATE: May 20, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
NAME: XXXXXXXXX
AMOUNT: $100.00
If you can, give.
I really do need a cocktail. Oooo, the fab GF is making bockwurst for dinner.
No cracks about sausages in the lesbo household.
Tomorrow is more framing, rotohammering anchor bolts, and I have to dig a trench. I am going to do that last one with the phone—”Hello, Mike the dirt guy? Whatacha doing?”
So, South Dakota, Montana, and Puerto Rico. Who are the garyinchapelhill’s for these contests?
Hmm?
(BTW, have I mentioned how much I love the decor of Chez Riverdaughter? Rico, a round on me. Send around the Veuve Cliquot.)
Yeah Scarborough likes Hillary, there were some funny Morning Joe moments after Pennsylvania in particular where he was calling her his new girlfriend.
I really can’t think of any excuse for Obama to just write off an entire region of the country. I simply can’t.
There’s a traffic jam in front of our county elections office in the suburbs of Portland. They’ve got squad cars blocking off a portion of the center lanes directly in front of the building, and sheriffs standing in the temporary safe zone, collecting ballots from passing cars. I’ve been to that building at this time in the evening on General Election day, and I’ve never seen anything like this. People are VOTING!
Ann On, can you hang out and ask them who they’re voting for?
OK, maybe I AM drunk?
Ann On: Holy $%#^! what do you think is happening? Were they waiting for Kentucky?