Let me begin by saying that I am not a fan of Cokie Roberts. She is a glaring example of our elitist media that likes to tell the masses what they are and are not thinking. That said, I could not help but think that she has Democrats’ number with this column in the Jewish World Review.
The Republicans are licking their chops. They are just waiting for Obama to officially become the Democratic nominee because they know that there is no way in Hell that he can win. And who do we have to blame? It certainly isn’t the voters. We have made it very clear that our choice as nominee is Hillary (just look at the popular vote). No, it is the Democratic leadership, losers every last single one of them (and I mean that literally, not figuratively), that are to blame, as Roberts points out:
Democrats seem intent on nominating Barack Obama, in the face of mounting evidence that Hillary Clinton would be the stronger candidate against John McCain in November. And they only have themselves to blame.
Yes, the Clinton camp made strategic blunders that allowed Obama to score heavily in Republican states where few Democrats vote. But the real culprit is the party’s stupid, self-destructive nominating system
Cokie isn’t merely taking swipes at the Democratic Party, she makes a strong argument that the nomination process is designed to nominate a sure loser. First she contends that it is set up to annoint a nominee early on before a relative unknown (like Obama) can be properly vetted. Secondly, if something does come up (Rev Wright for example), it is nearly impossible for a challenger to catch up in the delegate race.
Since Feb. 19, seven states have voted. Clinton has won four — Pennsylvania, Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island —building up a popular-vote margin of 483,000. Yet her total gain in delegates was exactly five. In Texas, she won by more than 100,000 votes, but because of that state’s ridiculous rules, she actually came out five delegates behind.
How can that outcome possibly be fair? How can it possibly benefit the party?
Not only that, most of Obama’s delegate advantage comes from small Republican states where Obama racked up big victories that gave him the delegate lead. According to “the boyz”, this constitutes “The Math” they keep talking about. Their math is a little fuzzy, though, as Roberts points out:
Obama built up sizable margins in small states that Clinton was foolish enough to concede. His delegate advantage in Idaho, Kansas and Louisiana — three states that will never vote Democratic — was a total of 38. By contrast, Clinton handily won three large swing states — Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Ohio. And yet, because of party rules, her combined marginal gain amounted to 28 delegates.
I’m not sure that Clinton conceded those small states. They have very small Democratic populations who are given too much importance in my opinion. I would guess that most Democrats in Idaho and Kansas, for example, are the very same “liberal elite” that are Obama’s core constituents. They are concentrated around college campuses and the like. Those states don’t have the groups that REALLY make up the Dem base (working women, latinos, blue collar workers) that have been rallying to Clinton. That’s why they have gone with such large margins to Obama, and as Roberts points out, their delegate representation is wildly disproportional to mainstream Democrats in states like Ohio and New Jersey.
As Hillary said last night, it’s the map, not the math. Roberts seems to be making the same argument here. The “math” of the nomination process is flawed, and in many ways designed to nominate a sure loser. As a side note, even with “the math” in his favor, Obama still had to sideline MI and FL to get it to work. SD’s need to focus on the electoral map, and who has the best chance to defeat the Republicans in the fall. The votes that may very well win Obama the Democratic nomination will likely have no impact in the fall as their states electoral votes will surely go to McCain.
Finally, Roberts makes the argument that Democrats would rather avoid any charge of racism than actually win an election, even if that charge of racism is absolute BS:
So why don’t Democratic leaders and superdelegates face these facts and shift to Clinton? One reason is race. It’s true, as Obama says, that being black in America has hardly been a political asset, given the fact that he’s the only African-American in the U.S. Senate.
But at this time, in this party, being black is an enormous asset. Given America’s long, torturous path toward racial justice, many Democrats simply cannot imagine denying the nomination to the first serious African-American candidate for president.
From a moral perspective, that’s a noble judgment. From a political perspective, it could cost Democrats the White House.
But this is Obama’s secret weapon, and Hillary supporters have known this for some time. Those that have been bold enough to make such an argument have been lambasted by Obama’s race-baiting campaign and his allies in the media (ask Geraldine Ferraro). It has gotten so crazy that if you try to point out any weakness in “The One”’s campaign, you risk being labled a racist. Well, this ploy is not working with more than half of us in the Democratic Party anymore. And as for it working on the Republicans? Yeah, good luck with that.
Filed under: Barack Obama, General, Hillary Clinton, Media, Politics, Presidential Election 2008 | Tagged: Cokie Roberts, Democratic Primaries, losers, racism






Our nomination system sucks all right.
We should make the delegate counts reflect electoral vote counts so we have a shot at replicating a GE
so we don’t nominate this:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May15.html
when we could have this:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May01.html
or the difference between LOSING huge:
Obama/McCain 237 – 290
or winning solidly
Clinton/McCain 280 – 241
I have been saying for some time here that the DNC is ruled by saboteurs and morons. Anybody still wants to argue that?
Great post, Gary! You laid it out so well. I too was surprised to see Cokie “get it”. Not sure what that’s all about but maybe she knows something we don’t.
If Barak Obama is so bright, shiny and new, how come all the old Democratic war horses (and losers) are tripping over each other to jump on his bandwagon?
Maybe, they’re just tripping.
This is supposed to be the year that we Democrats can waltz into the White House. What happened?
An egotistical, arrogant young Senator decided to jump the line and doom our chances in the name of, yes-wait for it, political correctness.
My worst fear was that the Republicans would get smart, suck it up and make John McCain their nominee. Well, they did, and my Party is trying its damnedest to crush the one candidate who stands a chance against “the Maverick” in November.
I used to think that Will Roger’s old joke about not belonging to any organized political party because “I’m a Democrat” was funny and kind of sweet.
Now, it’s tragic.
Where was this type of analysis from Cokie earlier in the primary? Now she says something?
RD-your last comment may mean the insiders are saying something to the MCMers, and now some of the MCMers are willing to bring it up?? The MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media) giveth and the MCM taketh away….
Finally got in to Corrente–on try about 10-ish minutes ago. So, maybe that drought is over. Did seem to be hit or miss; some could get access, others not. Cryptic (to me) comment about DNS (domain network system, I think).
Thanks for posting this Gary —
As a Kansan, I have one thing to add
I chaired the Credential’s committee for my Caucus. So I was involved in a very personal way in the horror of that event.
The Republican Party in Kansas has been taken over by “Crazy People” With few exceptions rank and file “traditional” Republicans have been purged from the party. They — and the large number of Independants in this state — have been left without a voice.
Back when we had our caucus on Super Tuesday Kansans knew little about Hillary Clinton except what they thought they knew. And we all know what that probably was. And they knew nothing at all about Barack Obama except that he was (then) the Next New Thing.
That was in the Dark Days before Tina Fey saved Ohio and Texas & Hillary’s campaign was reborn. Remember Oprah & Carolyn Kennedy & Maria Shriver chanting “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” The dark days.
So the Kansas Democratic Party sort of opened the caucuses. As long as you registered as a Democrat at the Caucus, you could participate. We had thousands, thousands & thousands of Republicans & Independents flood our caucuses. And THEY caucused for Barack Obama.
Oh, I know that there were Democrats in that crowd supporting Obama too (I could link to ScoutFinch’s diary on the event — but it’s at a site banned by our linking policy) But mostly? Those caucusing for Obama at my caucus and my parents caucus (up the road) were independents & Republicans. We know that because, we had to get them registered before we could get started.
(sigh)
So, our caucus was held on a Tuesday night during first an Ice Storm & then Snow Storm. It was a mess. I’m certain there were several thousand people waiting to get into the caucus hall — which had room for less than 300 people. We ran 10 mini-caucuses to get everyone through. And We lost many, many people before we finished at midnight.
In the end, just over 1000 people caucused for Obama and nearly 500 caucused for Hillary — just at my caucus.
500 Hillary supporters. I’m guessing that of the people we lost many, many of them were “elderly” Hillary supporters who just couldn’t wait in the Ice & Snow for the 5 hours it took to finish.
I know that Kansans have a bad reputation. But, I’ve lived here for 40 years now. And not all that reputation is deserved. There are a lot of very good people (even some of the Obama people — many I’m sure aren’t quite so happy with him now-a-days)
So, I felt like I had to speak up in Our Defense.
Thanks for listening.
It’s been my experience living in West Virginia for almost 40 years, that bigoted white Bubbas are seldom feminists. Hillary won them over because of her message and tenacity. Obama didn’t even try.
A friend’s Bubba husband’s Bubba buddy made this statement to him back when the field narrowed to two. “You got to give Bush credit. It’s a black man or a woman, and I’M GOING TO BE VOTING FOR ONE OF THEM!”
Do the exit pollsters ask Obama voters if gender influenced their choice?
Hillary got their vote because she EARNED it. C’mon, Kentucky, it’s your turn next!
jawbone: I think you’re onto something. How much you wanna bet that the insiders see more than just losing the WH? There are all of those downticket dems as well. But how to stem the tide of the SDs flocking to Obama? It really is party suicide.
Just for the heck of it I took a casual walk over to the Dark Side (Kos) to see what the yammering had in store for today.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the diaries and the postings seem to be, for the most part, put out by twenty somethings. One guy even bid farewell to Kos for the summer because he just failed his bar exam for the second time and needs to bone up to pass the third effort.
I hardly ever went to that site but the level of discourse is really juvenile. Someone inserted a video of a poet using the F word in support of Obama throughout the stupid poem. All it appears to be is attack, attack, attack. If this is the support group supposedly “propelling” him into the WH we have some serious problems. Schoolyard stuff.
I was under the impression, dumb as I am, to think the diaries and postings mirrored our own over here. Reasonable people getting together to discuss the issues and their candidate. Wrong! You almost feel like to need to take a shower.
Katie, I certainly didn’t mean to offend Kansans. My apologies for the assumptions. Thanks for the input. I still don’t think they’re going dem in the fall though, and neither is my state, NC : )
Oh, Gary — I know you didn’t. I just wanted to clarify that this was a VERY bizzare Democratic Primary for Kansans this year.
In a normal year Hillary would have easily led the Kansas Caucus. But, this was no normal year for a number of reasons.
Unfortunately, without moderation the mob mentality has taken over Daily Obama. After a while all of the self-congratulation about the Barry sweep became an echo chamber. I think that its days are numbered as a serious political blog.
I think we’re bound to see more commentary like Roberts. The more comfortable they feel with the assurance that Obama will be the nominee, the more they will start to turn their collective attack back on all Democrats, and in particular Obama. Ironically after months of the crap they’ve been peddling about Hillary, we finally will start to hear the truth from them about Obama in order to insure McCain’s win in November.
Sure gives me deja vu, though. The leadup to the iraq war saw these same pundits cheerleading and pushing Bush’s lies on the populace. As the war started to go bad, they all of a sudden changed their tune to fit the narrative they wanted. You would think Chris Matthews and the like had been out protesting in front of the WH before the war started. But I guess you stick with what works….
Is O-shame-us still going to declare victory after Oregon on 5/20?
Would he be so arrogant?
Gary,
I sent out Cokie Roberts’ commentary to my Democratic friends and one wrote back that the column was a fake because it was so biased and the writing was clearly not up to Cokie’s standard, etc. etc. etc. Three e-mails later I googled to find other papers carrying the column and sent the links to her. She’s been in politics for at least twenty years and is brainwashed by Obama.
Truly, the mindset is amazing.
I’m not a big fan of Cokie’s either, but she is an intellegent and knowledgeable DC insider.
She makes some good points about the dem nomination process… it really needs to be revised. The fact that it hasn’t been in recent decades is because of its own internal dymamics. The rulz, the byzantine rulz, have been there long before Dean (and his scream) came on the scene. The apportioning of delegates has no relation to popular vote nor electoral college votes nor even population in any state. It is probably (just a guess) more reflective of who had power in the party at the time the rules were devised way back then, and has not kept up with the times as they change.
As CR says, almost designed to pick a loser.
Maybe Cokie will express this view on the George S. show in the sunday AM show. Will watch for it and for George’s response
Does anyone remember the cult Heaven’s Gate? it had alot of phd’s and very bright people . They thought they were going to be beamed up to a space ship behind a comet and killed themselves to do so. Obama people remind me of them. The leader was a long time hustler, but the followers BELIEVED . It’s like the utter fantastic quality of the story added credablity rather than took it away. There comes a time in these people’s lives where they are attracted to something that requires you not to think, but believe. And so just asking them to think about what they are saying is often seen as a negative towards “the One” or belief , and it gets them very upset. Odd
I beg to differ with Cokie Roberts. I do not think there’s anything “noble” in the Party running a black candidate in this election cycle. I think is was a cynical decision that has set back racial advances by decades and has only increased the divide between whites and blacks.
The Obama supporters sneer at what they perceive as Senator Clinton’s sense of entitlement. Yet, when I listen to the same supporters, black and white, that’s what they’re talking about: Obama is entitled to the keys to the White House because he represents years of oppression.
I hate to remind people but women have only had the vote for 85 years in this country. And sexism is treated as a whiny joke. The repulsive things said about Hillary Clinton in this campaign would have rung a fire bell if the subject were racism. In fact, BO’s supporters have reacted and actually concocted race accusations to deflect and even destroy less than flattering comments about their own candidate. When voters show their preference for Hillary Clinton, they’re dubbed “racists.” When voters go for BO, their “enlightened.”
There’s nothing noble about this. It’s a planned marketing strategy to avoid answering tough questions–the Illinois Combine, the Rezko connection, the relationships with Wright, Meeks,Jones, Ayers and a dozen more who spout anti-American rhetoric and/or have corrupt backgrounds. The candidate has been marketed very skillfully as a “savior.” What is he really? The front man for the far-left agenda, the easy smile and vacuous promises that we’ll all feel good in the morning.
I say this sadly, with deep regret as a life-long Democrat.
Voters need to seriously start asking the pertinent questions because this Emperor has no clothes.
I can’t wait until some enterprising producer, or some established producer like Harvey Weinstein, puts together what will be the expose of the decade…
A documentary showing the blatant bias of the news media during this democratic primary. I know i can’t expect Michael Moore to do any such thing, but surely, if done correctly and it won’t be too hard, it would surely rival Fahrenheit 9-11…
and most of the proceeds should go to Hillary’ campaign debt, if life was fair of course this primary has shown it surely is not,…
Please someone do this, you can even borrow the title “Blatant Bias”
garychapelhill,
You seem to be willing to give credit where credit is due. According to Bob Somerby:
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The Daily Howler, February 14, 2008
What has Matthews really been like when it comes to partisan politics? In fact, Matthews was very tough on the war in Iraq, starting in the fall of 2002; his statement(s) about Libby’s “criminality” were part of a long campaign he adopted with respect to that war. Except for strategically-fired Phil Donahue, Matthews was the most skeptical voice on cable when it came to the war; he did a lot of good work on the issue (and some that was not), and he deserves credit for it. But in this conduct, Matthews was way out of character; the war is virtually the only “issue” he has ever addressed on his show, which runs instead to inane chatter about the four P’s: Personalities, polls, pointless predictions—and endless pummeling of Major Dem pols, especially the Clintons and Gore. Matthews did oppose the war. But he has built his cable career around the loud trashing of Dems.
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Great point, Anne! Sometimes you do have to wonder about those Ivy League schools.
The advisors that surround Obama-think Samantha Power and Susan Rice-put me in mind of Kennedy’s ‘best and brightest.” Those arrogant, elitist geniuses that brought us the Vietnam War.
CMMike, with all due respect to bob somerby, I would hardly call Matthews attitude as “opposition”. He may not have been as big a cheerleader as others in the media, and I tend to use his name interchangeably as “exhibit A” in what is wrong with our media. Matthews likes to ride the fence when he isn’t sure which way the wind is blowing in my opinion, but if you check out this link, their is lengthy reporting on Matthews complicity in defending Bush’s war, most notably calling his “mission accomplished” speech “brilliant”. another nauseating example is this quote:
“Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president.”
Check out the whole thing at Media Matters:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200609210010
In fact, the only person in the media I can remember that truly opposed the war was Phil Donohue on MSNBC, but he got the boot rather quickly…
garychapelhill,
Media Matters makes a good case. However they end their post quoting Chris Matthews’ September 1, 2002 newspaper column. Therein Matthews wrote:
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So I’ll say it: I hate this war that’s coming in Iraq. I don’t think we’ll be proud of it. Oppose this war because it will create a millennium of hatred and the suicidal terrorism that comes with it. You talk about Bush trying to avenge his father. What about the tens of millions of Arab sons who will want to finish a fight we start next spring in Baghdad?
Well, that’s it for now. You know where I stand.
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A lot of Democrats these days wish they had been on record saying that in September, 2002. But hey, whatever.
hah!!!….so that’s where this was going…OK, I know what you’re all about now.
Katie,
I was born and bred in Kansas (living in Colorado now) and the results didn’t seem like the kind of thing ordinary Kansas Democrats would have been behind. Can you say how much influence Sebelius had behind the scenes?
(shaking my head) Lynn — I don’t know. Our Local Democrat chair, Bill Roy Jr. is a Hillary Supporter. So it wasn’t unanimous at all.
At Washington Day (the big State Democratic Bash) last year, Bill Clinton was the speaker (he was WONDERFUL) so there couldn’t have been a lot of anti Clinton fever then.
I don’t know what swept Sebelious. It seems out of character to me.
President Clinton said that one of his childhood (and lifelong) best friends got cancer and died without health insurance. And that all their friends rallied around to help him get medical care and deal with it. He spoke about how horrible a situation that is even when you have influential friends.
“I would guess that most Democrats in Idaho and Kansas, for example, are the very same “liberal elite” that are Obama’s core constituents. They are concentrated around college campuses and the like. Those states don’t have the groups that REALLY make up the Dem base (working women, latinos, blue collar workers) that have been rallying to Clinton.”
OW! OW! Idahoan here, farming in the far north. That would be, working class woman, blue collar. And not a fan of Obama.
True, lots of the Idahoans for Obama are –I’m going to say it–carpetbaggers; people from metropolitan areas out of state, or Boise; they are the latte crowd, saving us locals from our uneducated ways.
But up until the 70’s, Idaho was a solidly Democratic state. And remember the Church Hearings that reined in CIA spying on citizens? Give an Idahoan some credit (Sen. Frank Church). And the first, state to have a Jewish Governor–Idaho (Moses Alexander). It is not the land of dark unrelenting racism or stupidity, and not all of our advances come from out of staters bringing light.
“It’s been my experience living in West Virginia for almost 40 years, that bigoted white Bubbas are seldom feminists.”
Excellent point. Which is why the charges of racism towards rural blue collar Hillary supporters are so stupid, in WV or in ID. And the corollary: feminists are seldom hardcore bigots.
Ha ha. CMike must be one of the 400. Guess what Mike? Obama isn’t on record as being against the war in 2002. It wasn’t recorded, it wasn’t in the papers, and hardly anyone remembers he was even at the rally.
How much do you get paid to be Obama’s troll?
garychapelhill and bostonboomer you’re way off.
Somerby warns, you want to avoid singing, “When you’re a Jet, you’re a Jet all the way from your frst cigarette to your last dyin’ day.” I’ll stick with the facts. Me, one of the 400? Not hardly-granted, I don’t use the standard talking points but I’m behind Clinton as much as any of you who are commenting in this thread. Take a look in Anglachel’s “WV Exit Polls” post, you can find a link to a comment of mine in an Update she put in the middle of her post..
anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/05/wv-exit-polls.html
On that link I just left you have to add an “L” on the end so that it reads html when you paste it in the browser. (A preview feature would be nice to have here.)
how old do you think cmike is? maybe 17? Although I will give him points for creativity. I kept asking myself, what kind of idiot would be defending matthews. Couldn’t keep his ass hidden beyond the second post though ha! now with the “I covered my tracks, look!” what a joke. Take a hike kid….
garychapelhill,
You are wrong about my age, whatever that has to do with anything being discussed. I couldn’t care less about covering my tracks but I’ll take a hike gladly. You have all the obnoxiousness of an Obamabot.
The party is run by Howard Dean from the far left.They live in a dream world. They gave the 2000 election to Bush by ignoring the winner take all system, forgetting third grade arithmetic, and replacing reality with the proportional representation dream.
Now Dean has done everything he can to give the nomination to Obama, just to hear him recite a liberal wish list that will do nothing to solve current problems.
The far left don’t care about the damage they do. To this day, they haven’t admitted or appoligized for their role in electing Bush. And they won’t care when Obama wastes our store of political capital on a string of far left cliches. When he fails, either in the ge or in office, they’ll just blame someone else. I’m guessing Hillary’s third cousin’s butcher’s wife, who bought a new watch and betrayed the tinkers union for a loaf of designer bread, which brought the party crashing down.
Actually, the far left is bringing the party down, and for the third time. First they rioted in Chicago. Then Nader’s Traitors had their fling. Now they’re putting up another ignorant poser with a bag of rhetorical tricks.
And it’s not clear if the party will recover in our lifetime.
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Excellent diary, Gary. “The Confluence” is becoming a wonderful source for thoughtful posts and comments. Cokie’s column (with Gary’s analysis) helps me understand how Hillary could be winning popular vote yet losing in total delegate count. BTW, maybe somebody mentioned this upthread but Cokie on ABC News “This Week” (maybe last Sunday?) expressed some consternation that Hillary was being ganged up on to get out of the race, implying that this might be linked to her being a woman.
This column appeared in “Jewish World Review,” not exactly a mainstream outlet, so unless this was published elsewhere more mainstream I guess her views are not being aired in MSM — unless of course she brings it up herself on air on ABC News “This Week” this Sunday.
It seems the press are only allowed to speak their true thoughts in non mainstream media.
I do think this is more of a get the Clinton’s out of the party and have them stop showing us how it done thing. Both Bill and Hilary Clinton are some of the most successful democratic politicians in 40 years. The new party strategy seems to hang on far west states that have been traditionally republican along with southern states that have a high AA population. This effectively neutralizes the south and to hell with Bubba democrat. However, instead of investing in the hard work to turn these states from the ground up., the strategy seem to hinge on money , marketing and advertising with product Obama.
However, even if Obama is the nominee down ticket dems, especially in conservative states, are in trouble. The RNC is already painting all democrats with the Obama brush. Now this didn’t work according to the democrats with the recent election.. But what is left out, the dem running( I forget his name) had to run ads saying “I don’t know these people” and speech about believing in god and second amendment rights.. The only way that down ticket dems are going to get elected in conservative states is to run away from Obama as fast as they can. So much for Mr. Unity.
Not only is Obama a weak candidate, but he is unlikely to strengthen any down ticket democrats running for office.
Superb comment, Linda C.
My family is quite liberal. We’ve always been united in our political views. But this year we are divided. As a microcosm of the left, it is both fascinating and disappointing. Other members of my family are completely ga-ga over Obama while I have found Hillary to be the more credible candidate and the best contender in the GE, although I have strong differences with her on a couple of issues which I figure will iron out in the legislative meatgrinder later on.
It’s very strange discussing Obama with my family because they rush to protect him and defend him and spin for him at every possible to turn into any adverse corner. When I brought up the problem of Obama’s being perceived as “aloof” and “elitist” (not because of the SF comment but as a personality style), possibly in the same mode as several prior Democratic presidential losers like Stevenson, Humphrey, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore (although he actually won) and Kerry (the notable exception being Bill Clinton), they came back with an argument likening Obama to JFK who they say was thought of as “aloof” in his era. I differed and argued that, to my view, watching JFK (I was 20, in college), I found him anything but aloof and in fact thought he was quite brave (and hence appealing –and so did many others) to turn around and face the tremendous challenge to his Catholic religion head-on in West Virginia and turn that primary around on a dime, quite the opposite of Obama facing the challenge of a working-class white constituency in that state or in Pennsylvania or wherever that constituency resides — whom he might resent (perhaps understandably so) for the perceived racism in some of them (altho much of any xenophobia/racism, as Barack correctly but remotely remarked almost in whisper, likely arose from economic hardship, but he failed to make an effort to address their economic hardship in W Va by actively campaigning there to begin to heal any racist attitudes that might have developed toward him — and other future candidates of color for that matter. He conveniently abandoned them and allowed the assumption to hang in the air that Hillary won the W Va primary because “her supporters are racists” as SNL put it). That’s taking cynical advantage of racism without making an effort to alleviate the economic conditions in the first place that generate intolerance of people who are different. He knew what to do, he announced it in SF (under his voice) but he didn’t follow up on his own insight. No bravery there.
It reminds me of the “Hero’s Journey” that Jungian mythologist Joseph Campbell used to speak about, where the hero has to meet the challenge of the Dragon, as JFK met the challenge of the public’s distrust of his Catholic religion and potential control by the Pope (so some thought). Obama’s has a challenge by virtue of his blackness (and racist perceptions of some) and his closeness to Rev Wright’s separatism, even though Obama insists he does not share Wright’s angry/intolerant views.
It seems to me that a likeness to JFK breaks down when one considers that JFK met the challenge of dealing with the Dragon on his hero’s journey, whereas BHO gave a “Great Speech on Race” which in some ways side-stepped the immediate problem of race presented by Wright (and ended up giving us his grandmother’s “racial slurs that made him cringe,” saying this was not intolerance at all and she was a “typical white person”) and he ran away from the challenge underlying the W Va primary by not campaigning there very much.
My family lives on the East Coast and I’m on the West Coast, so I haven’t heard back from them but no doubt they will have some argument to defend Mr. Obama. I keep hoping that I am the one who is misperceiving all this, that I am the one who is wrong. This is, after all, my beloved family.
Above, I wasn’t clear when I wrote >> BHO gave a “Great Speech on Race” which in some ways side-stepped the immediate problem of race presented by Wright (and ended up giving us his grandmother’s “racial slurs that made him cringe,” saying this was not intolerance at all and she was a “typical white person”) <<
He said the last two things the next day or so after The Great Speech.
I’d happily thank Cokie for finally coming forward, but her insights were needed 2 months ago before we got to this stage where more and more pundits, and SD’s are screaming for Hillary to get out of the race.
This is information Hillary supporters have had a pretty strong handle, if not just a gut sense, on all along, but the MSM wouldn’t let our side be heard.
You people are all deluded. Neither Hillary nor Obama can possibly win. The entire H vs. O contest is simply masking the fact that neither can ever carry the nation. This is failure writ large for the first quarter of the 21st century.
Morons. This country will not elect a liberal woman or a liberal black man in the foreseeable future.
And, by the way, the script goes this way. Obama gets the nomination. He loses to McCain. Hillary runs next time in 2012 and, surprise!, loses. Good work democrats! Now the supreme court is entirely Republican!
But hey, it was worth it, right? After all it’s her turn.
good article..
Thanks for sharing the article.
As I see it, the only way we Dems have a chance at saving face and winning the Fall election is for the super-delegates to choose Hillary as the nominee with a contingency that Obama is the VP. That way we still save the African-American perception of the first serious contender for POTUS as still being in the #2 spot, which is quite an accomplishment in itself. The VP seems to have more of a “social’ role anyway and Obama could refine his skills with interacting with the American people as well as develop more of a record. Why don’t the pundits start talking about this?
Anyway according to Rule #11, didn’t also Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina violate it by moving their caucuses/primaries up to January 3, January 8 and January 26 respectively?
Why isn’t this being discussed?
The Democratic Party will yet go down in the history books as the party of self-destruction.
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