Arianna Huffington is an elitist, hypocritical, shallow, racist
In case you couldn’t tell, I am not a big fan of Arianna Huffington. She is the face of everything that is wrong with the “New Democrats”. Arianna has done a very good job of reinventing herself. She used to be a very different person. It appears that Ms. Huffington has been able to cover her Republican tracks fairly well, as I cannot find any video of her prior to her re-birth as a “fearless” Democrat and “new media” maven extraordinaire. See, back before the 2000 election, Arianna was married to a very rich, very gay bisexual, Republican congressman. And she really wanted Bob Dole to defeat Bill Clinton in the presidential election of 1996.
Michael Huffington ran as a Republican for the US Senate seat of Dianne Feinstein in 1994. He was then a multi-millionaire, first-term congressman (It was widely reported at the time that he had effectively ‘bought’ his congressional seat). During his campaign for the Senate, rumors began to spread of Huffington’s homosexuality, though, at the time he steadfastly denied it. In the meantime his wife, Arianna, was beginning to get a taste for being a quasi-politico-celebrity, going on to promote her husband’s candidacy, and then Bob Dole’s candidacy for the President in 1996. She was a regular on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher and Comedy Central’s Strange Bedfellows with Al Franken. In the end, Michael Huffington narrowly lost his Senatorial bid, even though he greatly outspent Feinstein.
In 1998 Michael Huffington came out, sort of, but demonstrated the kind of self-loathing that only being a closeted gay man can produce:
“He doesn’t seem gay to himself,” Brock writes. “Gay means so much more, carries so much cultural baggage and he’s not that. The word gay just doesn’t describe him. It really doesn’t.
“But he is homosexual” Brock said. “It wasn’t a choice; it can’t be changed. Lord knows, he tried.”
See, he’s not faggy or anything, he just likes to suck have sex with other men….
Later Huffington defected to the Democrats and divorced her husband, although he still haunts her new digs from time to time. See, it wasn’t so much that AH was a die-hard Republican. In my opinion she was a Republican for two reasons back then:
First, it made her very rich, which she still has a hard time hiding from us little folk:
Not that she is flawless. During her husband’s Senate race, it was revealed she had an illegal nanny. She rails against SUVs but takes a private jet. During her run against Schwarzenegger, it emerged that she had paid only $771 in taxes in the previous two years.
and second, she hated the Clintons. Here is a quote from her regarding the impeachment of then President Bill Clinton:
“As a mother who has a 7-year-old and a 9-year-old, I want this to have a conclusion that has some type of moral lesson for children, and a free pass is not a moral lesson. To have no consequences is not a moral lesson.
“I think it’s very sad. I’m somebody who has actually admired Hillary’s commitment to reform even when I disagreed with her proposal. I admired the fact that she really wanted to change things. The message that she’s now sending to women is very disturbing to me because it’s not just stand by your man, it’s go out there and defend his lies.”
This from someone who knew she was married to a closeted homosexual. What a hypocrite. I guess nowadays she thinks this or this (be sure to scroll down to the bio of Maggie Williams, among other things it describes her as having “crawled out of the stinking ghetto”–classy) is the sort of message we should be sending to women and young girls.
Here is Arianna on Bill Maher on April 25th. Audio begins at about 1:15. This is the person whose minions are calling you and me racists. She thinks we are low-information, low-class, hicks. She likes to lecture to those whom she looks down her nose at on how to be “fearless”, and “compassionate”. take a listen: (that is not me, btw, introducing the clip, it is someone named antiRelusionist on you tube, so h/t to him)
I seem to recall hearing someone else make this joke, but instead, the butts of the joke were both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama (implying that Bill Clinton was blacker than Obama because he had slept with more black women than BO). Can anyone out there help me remember where that came from? For some reason I want to say it was back when Obama wasn’t “black enough” for the black community. Anyway, this is the kind of disrespect of the African American community by their so called “allies” that I was talking about in my previous post. I think a lot of Democrats need to ask themselves; Does Arianna Huffington represent the values of this party? I for one don’t think so. I think she is an elitist, hypocritical, shallow, racist.
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I think it was Andrew Jackson or Johnson, former mayor of Atlanta, and he is a Clinton supporter.
Clinton supporter, civil rights hero, fmr UN Ambassador etc etc Andrew Young is well known for using variations of this joke.
Cheer up, everyone!
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Hey, Gary, hope your interview went well last week. Ariana’s vitriol is certainly suspect. What she allows for discourse on her blog is unbelievable. This is the same kook who was Newt Gingrich’s BFF only a few years ago. This about face is so weird when you think about it. Of course she was aware of her husband’s sexuality but only when it became obvious to the world did she choose to leave him. Had he won the senate race she would have been right there by his side. The dutiful wife. Instead she chose to carve out another niche for her self involvement. The Hillary bashing is so hypocritical it defies explanation. She fashions herself as some doyenne for the benefit of those Hollywood liberals whom she so desperately needs to validate herself. It would be interesting to get inside the heads of these people who do not give a damn for anyone other then themselves. She is a smart cookie and I do not understand her backing of a truly unqualified candidate as Obama.
Susan,
go read the “innappropriate hotties” page describing maggie williams as having “clawed her way from the stinking ghetto” and that she “was Hillary’s chief of staff, and we can think of two reasons why: the left one and the right one” and then come tell me that it compares to anything that I wrote. maybe you’re the one feeling a little guilty (and if not, you should be)
Gary,
You touched on one of my favorite subject. I can’t believe Democrats in their right mind will suddenly let Arianna decide who is a good Democrat and what he/she should be up to.
As long as this thread is open, I’ll be posting some of Arianna’s greatest hits.
Here she was on Al Gore:
Have you noticed how you could replaced Al Gore with Hillary Clinton in this panoply of negative cliches?
Ugh, I hate Arianna.
So did you all hear that BO thinks Lincoln-Douglass style debates with McCain are a “great idea”. I think Hill’s voters, particularly women, are going to get more turned off by this phony as time goes on.
Great Post, Gary. (I put “susan’s” message in the spam filter — we’re being hit by trolls today)
I heard one of the contestantst on American Idol just decided that she won the contest even though all votes weren’t in. Said she figured that if she got this far then she must be the winner.
I’m in California. I know all about Arianna and Michael Huffington, her self-loathing gay former husband. She’s got a lot of nerve criticizing anybody else’s marriage.
After the Rethugs subverted democracy by recalling Democratic governor Gray Davis, the ever-opportunistic Arianna Huffington put her name on the recall ballot instead of circling the wagons around Davis to try to protect him from the Republican power grab …she lost.
Now we have a not too bright Republican governator and an anorexic bamabot for a First Lady. It’s like a bad dream.
Good post.
cc: I forgot she ran against Ahnold! She sure thinks she is out of the ordinary. She has been pushing Obama for months on that site. You can only go in there if you are wearing boots and have doubled your blood pressure meds.
Gary, I don’t think you get where I am coming from. This type of invective contributes nothing to intelligent political discourse, regardless of its source. The last thing I want to do is read more of it.
When Bill Clinton was being persecuted by a bitterly partisan Republican Congress I constantly spoke up for him and for Hillary. It didn’t seem fair to me that anyone’s sexual activity should become the public’s business. It still doesn’t. Even though Ariana Huffington is not running for any office and the activity was being done by her husband.
Surely there are more constructive topics for conversation.
Ya know, I think I understand “red state America” a whole lot more because of this cycle. Over the last several years I’ve grown to reject the “What’s the Matter With Kansas” narrative. The poor folk vote heavily Democratic in red states, just as they do in blue states. The thing is, the wealthy in red states are just redder than their blue state counterparts. Why? Probably self-preservation. But these quasi-Libertarians are the ones Obama wants to court. I reject completely libertarian philosophy and will fight to prevent that group from taking over the Dems.
Out of Arianna’s greatest hateful hits on Al Gore:
This is who is the leader on the progressive movement? I beg of thee, pass me the vomit bucket.
PS: Isn’t Hillary called “Nixon in Pants Suits” by the same people?
Susan,
I think this is a very pertinent issue right now. Obama supporters are currently talking about “purging” the party of Clinton supporters. Huffington and Kos are leading the charge in this arena, and I think people should know that both of them were Republicans until recently.
Also, Huffington was going around telling everyone how terrible Hillary Clinton was for staying with Bill in the late 90s and all the while she knew her husband was gay. She is the biggest hypocrite. She constantly refers to Bill Clinton’s sex life, why is hers off limits?
I thought a funny episode of cognitive dissonance occured early in the primary when Huffington went on about how awful Hillary Clinton’s voice was.
Ariana = Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing
Well, isn’t this interesting:
“[Bill] Bradley has warned voters to watch for Mr. Gore’s “tricky” way with words, going as far as to compare him with Richard Nixon…In fact, not only this campaign but Mr. Gore’s entire career has been laden with untruths—all demonstrating a pattern of serial abuse of language, truth and reality.”
Because. of course, as most of us have figured out, Obama is this year’s Bradley, but he happens to be african american. Hence attracting african americans with Bill Bradely’s posture. That’s all it is after all. The against Washington thing. It’s a posture. Funny, the Dem’s seem poised to nominate the only candidate without a universal health care system.
Susan,
Also, your word “invective” is appropriate here because Huffington deserves “vehement denunciation or reproach”. She should be denounced daily, as she is a propagadist of the first order, and should not be relied upon.
So I think this invective does contribute to the discourse. We should be telling everyone about the real Huffington, so they stop giving her credibility she does not deserve.
I wonder how her daughters will fare in a world where the best presidential candidate was kneecapped due to misogynistic bigotry from the left?
Exactly, Davidson. It’s disgusting.
Katiebird, I am not a troll, I found this blog as a result of an article in the current issue of Vanity Fair by James Wolcott. It was mentioned as being founded as a place for Clinton supporters.
I don’t like receiving only one point of view as is presented on the Daily Kos and Huffington’s Post so I started reading the Confluence.
While here I have made a few comments. For the first time in my internet experience, I have been both sworn at and censored as a troll.
Sen Clinton really deserves better from her supporters.
susan said:
“sen clinton deserves better from her supporters”
I guess you’re not a troll, you’re a concern troll…”
Susan, if you come from those other sites you may be used to talking in a tone that isn’t acceptable here. Your original comment offended me, but riverdaughter herself can retrieve it if she thinks it’s appropriate.
You say, “The last thing I want to do is read more of it.”
And I say, “Then go someplace else”
Here? We love Gary and hope he’ll give us more just like this one.
“See, he’s not faggy or anything, he just likes to suck have sex with other men….”
This line peeves me as a gay man. Peeves is actually the kindest word I can afford it. Her ex-husband does not even register on the radar of reasons I have grown to dislike Arianna during this election cycle. I find his inclusion here offensive.
As for Arianna, I must backtrack. The only reason - one - I have gown to dislike her is because as that Real Time clip illustrates, she is completely making shit up. Her blog did the same with Bill’s fairytale comment and others. She’s using GOP smear tactics to further the cause of a “progressive” like Markos and others and that makes me ill.
Susan from 29, on May 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pm Said:
I don’t like receiving only one point of view as is presented on the Daily Kos and Huffington’s Post so I started reading the Confluence.
For the first time in my internet experience, I have been both sworn at and censored as a troll.
Susan,
I definitely don’t go in for swearing at people. But I’m finding your outrage a little disingenuous. You say that this is the first time that you’ve been sworn at and treated shabbily. Yet you come here from DKos and HP. Have you objected to the treatment of Clinton supporters over at those places?
What you’ve come across here is NOTHING compared to what is going on over there. People here are just reacting to the crappy treatment that we’ve endured since the New Year. We have been drummed out of those places by the vilest rhetoric I’ve ever seen.
So, you come on over to a Clinton supporting web site. One of the very few, and you wonder why remarks critical of Senator Clinton don’t go over to well. Hmmm.
Things I’ve been called on the internet(s) in the last few months.
Racist. Scared. Moron. Asshole. Liar. Desperate. Loser. Faux Democrat. Whore. Neocon. And - someone who has mommy issues.
All at the “progressive” blogs.
There’s more, too.
Oh, and those names came after I voiced support for HRC.
We all love Gary! And he is a cutie patootie as well! His point is that while Ariana was blasting away at Clinton she had her own problems as well. And people in glass houses…….as the saying goes. Susan, you have to understand that this site is alive with passion for what we see is the wrong choice being shoved down our collective throats. We have made sacrifices for her candidacy because we believe in her message and we are most appreciative of her willingness to fight despite what has been hurled at her. If you cannot comprehend our unity then perhaps you will not feel welcome. I hope that is not the case. We here on this blog all feel like we are in this together despite the geographical distances we share.
Susan - try Talkleft - no cursing allowed over there and a lof of Clinton supporters.
I just unsubscribed from the Courage Campaign as they sent me an email entitled: Arianna Huffington, for Courage Campaign.
And when they asked why I was leaving, I told them it was because of Huffington’s involvement with their organization.
I didn’t make remarks critical of Sen Clinton. I’m not outraged. And yes, I found some of the remarks about the Clinton supporters on DKos and HP offensive.
I thought I could make some sense of the divide. And all I can find anywhere is deeply entrenched attitudes that don’t or won’t bear examination.
I have supported the Clintons since 1992. Switched to Obama. Am now having second thoughts and looking for input from multiple sources. What I’m finding are the same defensive positions that the Obama supporters are taking. And both groups are so totally convinced that they are right.
This is not the type of political discussion that makes a lot of sense to me. We can keep calling each other names or try to communicate honestly.
As for Arianna Huffington, I don’t like her, I never have and the only thing she wrote that I have knowingly read was her story about John McCain’s vote against Bush. I do remember Feinstein’s Senate race against her husband. He was defeated because of his positions and because he flagrantly tried to buy an election. She didn’t have much to do with his loss; I seem to recall that most people thought she was, at best, strange. I still think she is strange. And yes, I might even go along with labeling her a racist as I felt when she cracked that “joke” on the Bill Maher show a couple of weeks ago.
Ah, what’s the use?
Gary - the sleeping with more Black women than Obama joke came from Blacks guys and wast meant as a slur/praise of Obama - but on Bill Clinton.
And Arianna may be everything else you said, but I doubt racist. If she were why would she back Obama?
The one and only Bob Somerby digs in his invaluable archives and gives us this:
Talk about “deja vu all over again”.
gqmartinez: The poor folk vote heavily Democratic in red states, just as they do in blue states. The thing is, the wealthy in red states are just redder than their blue state counterparts.
I’d have to root around to find the research, but if only the poor are allowed to vote (defined as bottom 16%), all states would be blue except TX, KS,UT,ID,MT,WY,ND,SD,NE.
If you only let the rich vote (top 5%), all states go red except CA, MD, NJ,NY,CT.
MABLUE - Bob S is awesome - thanks for that quote.
For the record, I ant no fan of Arianna either.
Why don’t we just let the rich vote then? Along with only the superdelegates. We could save ourselves a lot of time, money and energy and we would not be forced to think for ourselves! Isn’t this what this race is kind of boiling down to?
Cyn in NY: Yes, it does seem like we have seen this movie once before.
O/T:
Remember the MoveOn contest to submit an ad in support of BO? Guess what they picked? An ad featuring a ‘Republican for Obama.’
Pretty clear what the Hillbillies will get replaced with, LOL. Creative class Republicans!
Where is jerseygirl5555? We need her to watch the MoveOn ad to see if she gets that tingling feeling up her leg.
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Obama’s May 20 Bash: A Cynical Replay of Election Night 2000
Posted on May 12, 2008 by GRL
Think not??
I’ll take you back to that fateful night in a moment.
But first, listen to strategist David Axelrod on WCCO, the CBS affiliate in Minneapolis, MN the night of the May 8 Indiana and North Carolina primaries. (The video is the top left “thumbnail” located just above the video player in the event the current news plays rather than the Axelrod video; you will also have to endure a short Coldstone Creamery ad).
MORE MORE MORE in the blog post
President Clinton will be speaking at a rally tomorrow in Southern Oregon, and I plan to go. I have three poster boards, so I’m soliciting snappy phrases. Thanks!
According to a posting up at Taylor Marsh, Obama is seeking volunteers for the general. Anybody up for it?
It’s not just Ariana. What about Kos and Avrosis–both “former” Republicans telling us long-time Democrats what to think and who to vote for. They’ve almost taken over the Democratic Party. I’ve always been a little bit suspicious of Kos, because I though it was really peculiar that he had gone through the entire course of CIA training and then suddenly started a “progressive” web site and started rooting for Dean. This year the “Dean” candidate may get the nomination, thanks in part to Kos.
I know it sounds “tinfoil-hat,” so don’t yell at me. But the CIA has had “embedded” journalists for decades. In fact, Bob Novak has always been thought to be a CIA plant.
Susan at 29,
“Troll” is in the eye of the beholder. At The Confluence, we Confluentians get to decide. If you are courteous to us, fine. But we have come here because we support Hillary. We aren’t here to argue with Obama supporters. We are here to support each other. You might get what you want at Talkleft. If you post rude things about Hillary, you’ll get negative responses there too. But there are a few Obama supporters there and lots of information about both Dem. candidates.
Arianna is another of the quasi-fascist, quasi-libertarian gadflies who have found a new home in Obamaland. The way she runs her website makes one consider taking the “quasi” out of the first adjective. She has no core principles, except her own self-gratification, which includes hanging out with the rich and famous and getting a lot of TV time. She cares not a whit for the working person, or any of his/her issues. Anyone who would not support Gore over Bush was an idiot then, and a hypocrite now. That goes for her pal Bill Maher, Kos, and plenty of other visible members of the Obama Party.
My guess is that Arianna would really liked to have been Marie Antoinette. Given the modern realities, she’ll settle for lashing around, trying to destroy the political careers of people to whom she has taken a personal dislike. The best way to do that, is to act like you actually care about any of the issues, or the wretched masses who don’t get to sun themselves on David Geffen’s yacht.
Comedy Central’s Strange Bedfellows with Al Franken.
I remember that…A : it wasn’t funny and B : the funniest thing about it was Franken had to repete everything she said before answering her because as difficult as it is to understand Arianna now, it was impossible to understand her then. She needed a human sub title . I take heart that Arianna Huff and puff is on BO’s side because eventually everything turns to dross for her and she moves on . BO will be taking down a good many people with him and it’s their egos that are to blame.
Sen Clinton really deserves better from her supporters.
This is the new unity line…Roe vs Wade didn’t work out so well
Actually with all of Florida and Michigan ballots counted, at the end of the process, there will be more ballots with Hillary’s name on it compared to Obama’s.
bostonboomer: What about Kos and Avrosis–both “former” Republicans telling us long-time Democrats what to think and who to vote for.
The more interesting question in my mind is why did so many people let them?
Please call, call, and call for Hillary!!!
Now is good time, Working people are home!!!
We need every vote!!!
Hillary is working very hard for us. Let us all do our best to bring votes for her!!!
I remember the Huffington campaign for Senate in ‘94. Arrianna was the driving force behind it all the way. Michael Huffington was as reticent a politician as I’ve ever seen. It looked like he didn’t want to be out there, but with more money than god and running as a Republican in ‘94, he came within a hair of beating Feinstein. Considering how Feinstein’s turned out, maybe it would’ve been better. At least Arianna would still be a Republican, prodding Michael to run for majority leader to satisfy her social climbing.
The next line will be
you were always going to vote for MaCain
See they want Hillary erased completely
and so much for the nicey nice …did that last even 4 days? The bots can’t help themselves
hlr,
That is an interesting question. Personally, I never let Kos tell me a damn thing. I mostly ignored him except for occasionally being outraged by his sexism and amused by his immaturity.
For all the jerk-offs who think AA’s hate the Clintons:
Strong Majority Of African Americans Want Unity Ticket
This is a wonderful finding from an ABC/WaPo poll:
Clinton continues as the preferred choice as Obama’s running mate, with 39 percent of Democrats saying they’d like him to pick her if he’s the nominee. That peaks at 59 percent of African-Americans, 47 percent of Clinton supporters and 42 percent of women (vs. 34 percent of men).
There’s also an indication that Clinton on the ticket would be a slight net plus in the general election: Among all Americans, more say having her run with Obama would make them more likely to vote Democratic (25 percent) than to vote Republican (18 percent). The rest (54 percent) say it wouldn’t make a difference in their choice.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/12/19449/7382
Hate to link to newsmax but:
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Replacement_Obama_Pastor_/2008/05/07/94285.html
“Replacement Obama Pastor Just As Controversial As Wright
Moss also states in the sermon:
# “Jesus has a soft spot for thugs.”
# “God is always using thugs to do God’s work.”
# “Everyone has a little bit of thug in them.”
# Noah was a “thug” who “was drinking much gin and juice and got drunk on the eve of reconstruction.”
# Abraham “pimped his own wife.”
# Jacob was a “hustler” who “stole his own brother’s birthright.”
# Moses was a “thug” and “if he got mad would give you a royal beatdown.”
# Sampson was a “thug” and a “player.”
# David was a “thug,” a “shot caller,” and a “player,” and a man after God’s own heart.
# “Jesus is on the cross being lynched between two thugs. The moment of execution, the moment of murder, Jesus, the son of God, is hanging out with thugs.”
In an interview last month with National Public Radio, Moss refused to distance himself from claims by Wright that the U.S. government was involved in distributing illegal drugs to minorities.
He said: “I think we need to be very, very honest in terms of that our government has the ability to place a Hubble Telescope in the sky but yet we haven’t had the political will to shut down drugs coming into our community. And from that perspective I think that’s something we can look at in terms of policy.”
In his Easter sermon, Moss said Wright was “lynched” by the international media, and compared Wright to Jesus. ”
They have video of the sermon. I’m not making any value judgments but this will alienate people in the general election should he become the nominee especially the Jesus, God, and Moses lines.
Ok, who here told me about Ed O’Reilly from MA? I wrote him today and told him I would help him out I just want to know he will not bash Hillary. That was my only request and I will help him get rid of Kerry. Frankly, his views are much more inline with mine, he is a Democratic progressive(that’s the term I am using now for an actual progressive rather than a libertarian Dem ala Kos who call themselves “progressive”). Anyway, he wrote me back the nicest note. I am going to help this guy. Whoever you are who told me about him, I think we can bump Kerry.
Melanie,
I told you about Ed O’Reilly. He has been endorsed by some progressive organization, but I don’t know anything else about him. I think he is more liberal than Kerry, but I could be wrong.
Yes, boston, he favor single payer health care. So, anyway, I am going to help him, but I should know a few things before I get back in contact. When is the primary?
Melanie: I think it was Boston Boomer who referred you. What link did you use since I will do the same.
Anne, on May 12th, 2008 at 7:57 pm Said:
Sen Clinton really deserves better from her supporters.
This is the new unity line…Roe vs Wade didn’t work out so well
I was going to say the same thing. I have seen this a number of times now. Obama people who claim to want to have a reasonable discussion but then claim to be exasperated by the comments they get and end with the “Hillary deserves better” BS. It is so transparent it it is sickening. The time for making nice and having reasonable discussions about the merits of the candidates is gone. They should have considered the consequences of their vitriolic, mysogynistic bigotry long before now. Too little too late for me.
Melanie –
BTD is ridiculous. If you want to say that an “overwhelming majority” (59%) of AA voters want Clinton in the VP spot, then the 53% of Clinton supporters who do not favor the idea is a clear majority.
This whole “unity ticket — Clinton for VP” crap promoted at TalkLeft is to get us halfway to the point of accepting that Obama has won the nomination.
I think the Kennedy BS was for the same reason. We’re supposed to be begging for Clinton as VP now. No. As far as I’m concerned, the nomination is not a settled matter, so there’s no reason to even talk about this VP nonsense (and I said the same thing when Clinton/Obama was proposed way back).
Exactly, hlr, she can finish the race with the popular vote including Florida and Michigan. Voters from Michigan and Florida are just as important as voters from other states. We could have a new primary on Aug. 5th in Michigan but until then, we can count Michigan’s original result.
I don’t want her as VP. It’s President or bust. How insulting to have this talented, smart, experienced, vivacious, dogged, full-of-energy woman have to take second fiddle to a much more poorly qualififed man!
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hlr, on May 12th, 2008 at 9:30 pm Said: This whole “unity ticket — Clinton for VP” crap promoted at TalkLeft is to get us halfway to the point of accepting that Obama has won the nomination.
Exactly. And BO dangles the VP like no ones’ business
How many times have we heard some body’s been offered the VP?….it’s like every 48 hours and it’s whoever is the Dem is wherever BO happens to be
at a given moment . I know Cheney has expanded the the office, but does BO need 8 VP ? Given his lack of experience , perhaps he does! And does that gov of KS really think BO backers will give the VP to her? It’s too funny. Can that Senator from MO really think she’s getting it too?? These people are crazy .
It’d sad to see what our ego will make us do
I keep saying - and maybe I’m wrong, but here goes again - if there’s no other way to unify the party (assuming it would work), we will see a unity ticket.
The way I think about this is, Barry, assuming he’s the nominee, wants, nay, needs Clinton’s constituency. That means Clinton has leverage that could well translate itself into concrete changes in the platform and a serious policy brief. Not such a bad idea when combined with not-quite-executive-but-not-quite-legislative office of Cheneyesque unitary power is it …
… and yes, I am toying with the Dark Side of the Force here …
BUT -
one of the conditions would have to be that Florida and Michigan count for real, which could still change the outcome, which means Barry won’t give it yet, and Clinton won’t take it yet, so this is all quite premature. On to Denver!
FreakyBeaky, on May 13th, 2008 at 1:02 am Said: ‘
….Not such a bad idea when combined with not-quite-executive-but-not-quite-legislative office of Cheneyesque unitary power is it …
Yes, but that is exactly why Hill will not be offered it. At least not at this point. Kerry or Nancy want that Cheney sweet spot for themselves.. They want to keep Hillary Clinton out of power….while getting it themselves . the Hill as VP stuff is meant to be a trap…. to give up the nomination . well Hill is smarter than that.
Also if and when they offer it, Hill has to think and then pass…they will come back with the top spot if she waits…but she knows that. Just as we the base, are saying no to the DNC, I believe the Super De’s will follow our lead . They want to win and Hill has the votes. If the Dems want to win, they will have to come to Mama,
Please, I beg of you, do not send O lovers to TalkLeft.
There are more and more O gloaters over there every
day. I like the discussions over there but they are getting
hijacked by the newbies.
Ya’ll should watch Tracy Ulman’s show on Showtime. She
does a hysterical Arianna impersonification-you almost can’t
understand a word she says!
I enjoy going to Huff Post and generally peeing in the Obamabots koolaid.
I actually heard Chuck Todd say that if Obama lost the general Hillary would be blamed. Thus politically she will have to get her vote to him or she is done forever as a POTUS candidate of the party.
That’s rich but it points to the realty of the media and Hillary.
They have now put the whole thing in a few convenient boxes.
If white voters do not support Obama with the urging of Hillary…Blame Clinton
If Hillary gets the nomination via SDs it’s because white voters won’t support Obama. AA will leave the party in droves….Blame Clinton.
The AA vote coalesced in large numbers after Bill Clinton in SC…..Blame Bill Clinton
I have actually come to the conclusion that the AA vote is now the only issue. It’s not so much about this year as the possibility of losing it from here on out. It sucks but I think that’s the story and it does not look possible to me for the nomination to now be won by Hillary despite Obama’s weaknesses.
If the party is more concerned with the 90% of the AA vote they get every cycle it’s done. I’m afraid they would trade losing to McCain for it and not bat an eye.
DId you see where a Hillary “pledged” delegate, AA I think, said he would vote Obama!? If Hillary had pulled that poaching with a white one she would be crucified.
Given the way this has played out HRC should not accept or ask for the VP. She’ll campaign for him but only so the media has a harder time blaming her. They are already saying they will!
Maybe I’m just cynical now but it’s what I have come to accept. I do not want to see McCain in the WH. But the only reason I see to vote for Obama is because the AAs voters seeing a historic opportubity are not the ones to blame.
The DEM party is now identity politics run amok. Women will get thrown under the bus and are expected to turn out anyway. Unfortunately the reverse is AA will feel thrown under the bus and expect to turn out anyway.
What a shame.
You folks cheer me up but WV results will only depress me so I’ll read the “race politics” spin tommorow.
Re-writing, oh, she is the queen of that. While in Cambridge she was a rabid anti feminist. She has re-written her family’s history in Greece. She came from a family that profited from the Greek Junta. Why did her family have to leave Greece after the Junta was deposed? Ms. Arianna is a profiteer. She learned a few debating skills at Cambridge but benefits from the medium of never having had contributed anything to society, just words.
A) “stinking ghetto” refers to Maggie Williams hometown, Kansas City. And if you’ve ever been, you know that’s an accurate description.
B) that article is on 23/6, which is a comedy site, not a news site.
Why is nobody talking about Arianna Huffington?
Simple. She’s a liberal and skeletons in the closets for liberals just reminds their voting base why it’s okay to be hypocritical and crazy.
Honestly, people don’t pay attention to her as they do - say - Ann Coulter. She’s mediocre-interesting and the left basically has themselves the sugar mama they need as they have found in Soros as their daddy.
All they know is she’s on their side. And this video really isn’t going to change their perspective on her. As a Republican, I already find her revolting. Democratc really don’t care about racial slurs, offensive remarks, etc.
Unless of course it’s uttered by Ann Coulter.
I’m just waiting for everyone to realize that life isn’t “Simon says.”