Several commenters have been discussing Obama’s role as a community organizer. Some have already put up links in the comments. I’ll add all links to this post so we have a collection of information on this topic.
According to this article in The Nation, Obama moved to Chicago in 1985, a little more than a year after he graduated from Columbia University in NYC. He was 24 years old. He was hired by Jerry Kellman, a Chicago organizer, to lead the Developing Communities Project (DCP), which would target African American neighborhoods on Chicago’s South Side by working with African American churches in the area. During Obama’s time as a community organizer, Harold Washington was serving as Chicago’s first black mayor. This was a source of hope and inspiration for Obama and other blacks and progressives in the city.
Obama described the work of a community organizer in a chapter he wrote for a 1990 book called After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois.
In theory, community organizing provides a way to merge various strategies for neighborhood empowerment. Organizing begins with the premise that (1) the problems facing inner-city communities do not result from a lack of effective solutions, but from a lack of power to implement these solutions; (2) that the only way for communities to build long-term power is by organizing people and money around a common vision; and (3) that a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly based indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic leaders — can knit together the diverse interests of their local institutions.
This means bringing together churches, block clubs, parent groups and any other institutions in a given community to pay dues, hire organizers, conduct research, develop leadership, hold rallies and education campaigns, and begin drawing up plans on a whole range of issues — jobs, education, crime, etc. Once such a vehicle is formed, it holds the power to make politicians, agencies and corporations more responsive to community needs. Equally important, it enables people to break their crippling isolation from each other, to reshape their mutual values and expectations and rediscover the possibilities of acting collaboratively — the prerequisites of any successful self-help initiative.
As jawbone mentioned in the comments, Obama was trained to work in the Alinsky method of community organizing.
Saul Alinsky, the radical University of Chicago-trained social scientist. At the heart of the Alinsky method is the concept of “agitation”–making someone angry enough about the rotten state of his life that he agrees to take action to change it; or, as Alinsky himself described the job, to “rub raw the sores of discontent.”
Obama’s first mentor was an organizer named Mike Kruglik, who says Obama was “the best student he ever had.”
He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards….he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better.
In terms of concrete accomplishments, Obama and “hundreds of other organizers” were not able to transform the South Side neighborhoods or bring in new industries to provide jobs. Obama’s most commonly cited achievement was in forcing the city to begin testing for asbestos in all city apartments. The work did have a powerful impact on Obama himself.
“I can’t say we didn’t make mistakes, that I knew what I was doing,” Obama recalled three years ago to a boisterous convention of the still-active DCP. “Sometimes I called a meeting, and nobody showed up. Sometimes preachers said, ‘Why should I listen to you?’ Sometimes we tried to hold politicians accountable, and they didn’t show up. I couldn’t tell whether I got more out of it than this neighborhood.”
After three years, Obama left Chicago to attend Harvard Law School. When he returned, he continued to stay in touch with the community organizations he had worked with previously. Ryan Lizza writes that
Organizing remained central to Obama long after his stint on the South Side. In the 13 years between Obama’s return to Chicago from law school and his Senate campaign, he was deeply involved with the city’s constellation of community-organizing groups. He wrote about the subject. He attended organizing seminars. He served on the boards of foundations that support community organizing. He taught Alinsky’s concepts and methods in workshops. When he first ran for office in 1996, he pledged to bring the spirit of community organizing to his job in the state Senate.
It does appear that his history of community organizing is central to Obama’s identity, seemingly even more important to him than his work as a legislator. The mystery is how with all this community activity, Obama managed to remain ignorant of the fact that his benefactor, Antoin Rezko, wasn’t paying utility bills for his tenents, many of whom lived in Obama’s IL state senate district.
Obama, who has worked as a lawyer and a legislator to improve living conditions for the poor, took campaign donations from Rezko even as Rezko’s low-income housing empire was collapsing, leaving many African-American families in buildings riddled with problems — including squalid living conditions, vacant apartments, lack of heat, squatters and drug dealers.
Conflucians, please react and add your own links and insights. I will continue to update this post.
Update 1: more articles on Obama’s career as a community organizer.
Portrait of a Pragmatist
On the Streets of Chicago
Obama Forged Path as Chicago Community Organizer
Update 2: In the LA Times article (3rd on above list) it says that Obama successfully organized cooperation between the neighborhoods and the park department to improve safety in several parks. It also says he has been criticized for exaggerating his role in making changes, particularly in connection with the asbestos story I mentioned in the main post.
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Good Job, BostonBoomer, thanks. I totally don’t get how this work qualifies a person to be president. Especially against the original Democratic contenders who each had a depth of experience that blasted BO’s out of the water.
I’m seriously concerned about the judgement of any elected officials who’ve endorsed him.
WHAT are they thinking?
Thanks, Katiebird. I don’t understand it either. How in the world could people like Kennedy, Kerry, and Daschle think this is enough preparation for the presidency–even in “normal” times, much less with the huge problems we have now? They seem to think that the role of President is just to “inspire.” The guy doesn’t even inspire me, and obviously more than half of Democrats who have voted so far agree with me. I just don’t get it.
Something unspoken here is that this took place in Chicago, one of the last bastions of “machine” politics.
The leader of any group that can deliver that group’s votes can (and almost certainly will) expect to be personally rewarded by the machine.
The more votes you can bring in, the greater the rewards. I’m not suggesting bribes or anything illegal (although it happens) I’m suggesting appointments, grants, reciprocal support, etc.
They used to call it patronage.
New Insider Advantage PA poll
C: 49
O: 39
If it wasn’t for SUSA, today would be a pretty good polling day. SUSA did have some differences compared to their previous PA polls that gqm mentioned earlier.
Why I do not buy his credentials. Obama always talks about his community organizing. Then it turns out Rezko, his big supporter, was developing affordable housing in the same communities Obama organized and represented as a State Senator.
Starting in 1996, Rezko’s affordable housing projects started to fail. He stopped paying debt service, he stopped paying utilities and many of them were later foreclosed by the City. In total there were 11 projects in Obama’s district, affordable housing projects, that failed. Obama had no clue.
I have worked in community organizing and affordable housing for over 30 years and I cannot believe that first he did not know that the projects were failing and second that he had no community connections to tell him the projects were failing. Community organizers know the streets they work in, they know the buildings, they know and care about the buildings.
http://museflaneur.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-and-judgement.html (links are here)
It’s useful to compare the polls leading up to OH and the polls leading up to PA. They are almost identical and supposedly the demographics for PA are more favorable to Hillary. Phone calls, phone calls, phone calls….
Maybe its just that those articles aren’t very informative. But they don’t say much about things that were actually accomplished. It sounds like Obama did a lot of holding meetings to discuss how to hold meetings. Doesn’t sound like he ever picked up a hammer himself to fix something. At least he got fed a lot of cookies.
Contrast that with the microlending programs (among others) that Clinton instituted in Arkansas and New York state that helped people connect with the practical means to accomplish their goals and better their lives.
He would aggressively probe people, asking personal questions, tearing down their egos, pinpointing. Who does Obama think he is, Dr. Phil?
Hillary’s senior thesis was on Saul Alinsky. Michelle’s was on the hard time AA students and alumni had at Princeton.
Re: the SUSA poll- I thought I read somewhere it was flawed- GRRR- hate it when I read so much I can’t remember where- anyway, the gist is that the poll was done with a flawed sample- Passover prevented them from polling some people.’
I will try and get a link for it later, got to go do my last canvass packet
myiq,
I don’t know about the political patronage aspect of this. The articles I’ve read say that Obama was very idealistic at the time he was doing the community organizing. At that time, he was really seeking to find a black identity, as I discussed in my previous post, “Barack Obama’s Double Bind.”
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/barack-obama%e2%80%99s-double-bind/
He definitely made connections though–both in the neighborhoods and in city government. Although I don’t like Obama at all, from what I have read, he had the ability to charm people even back then, and he seems to have made a very powerful impression in Chicago.
Melissa,
On the SUSA poll, BTD at Talkleft reported that SUSA stopped calling at 6PM on Saturday night because of Passover. That could have affected the results.
Stellaa,
I don’t believe that Obama didn’t know about the situation in Rezko’s apartments. If he didn’t know, what does that say about his oft-touted “judgement?” I think by that time, Obama had probably become much more cynical and more interested in what he could get from the rich and powerful than what he could do for the community.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that when you read these biographical articles, people have a really good first impression of Obama, but as time goes on, people start to notice that he is mostly out for himself. Thus you see the complaints from people who got screwed over in the legislature and in the neighborhood when Obama got more credit that he was due.
Here’s the link to BTD’s post on the SUSA poll internals.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/21/133849/105
OK, help me! I have just read several blogs, all by different people, talking about Obama as the Redeemer, bringing us redemption, being Jesus and they were not kidding. I mean, I thought this Obama-Christ thing was a joke. I thought it was parody. It’s real. Being JESUS! GEEZUS!
Powerful impression seems not even close to what is happening. There is some kind of brain meltdown that is beyond joking about.
A question that was never asked directly was: Why did he not challenge Rezko as to where all the grant money for rehabbing those units in his district was going when it became obvious that Rezko was not holding up his end of he bargain? Obama represented this area so you would assume that he had a vested interest in seeing that the monies were allocated properly. How do I know he never challenged him? This is the same man who assisted him in buying that million dollar home and even had him do a “walk through” at the time of purchase. One Chicago paper described Obama as “lazy”, relying heavily on charm and the ability to address a crowd. His time in the IL legislature was not stellar and they only met periodically. Many of the posters on this blog are able to see the transparency of his resume without having to dig that much so it is rather surprising that the depth of the support for him has not.
On the SUSA poll, someone at Talk Left mentioned there were more young people polled in this last poll and there were less older people polled in percentage terms. SUSA also said they stopped polling at 6 PM on Saturday and Sunday to observe Passover in a three day polling cycle (Fri-Sun.); the previous polls all had them poll into the night. Since older people are more likely to stay home on weekend nights, I think SUSA’s polling time could have affected the last poll like gqm mentioned.
Bostonboomer: Well, he touts his links to the community and walking the streets, over and over and he missed such a big one. He also was working for the law firm and advised on joint ventures with Rezko. I bet my life they got notices of the Rezko defaults, he knew Rezko was in financial trouble. This is a core lie that I will not forgive cause it was a substantial loss of affordable housing in a very low income neighborhood. He did not know, he did not care to know or he was incapable of knowing. If he drowned in a small neighborhood, my god, what will happen in DC?
Rezko basically pocketed about 6 million in developer fees. Obama and his firm at least should have made sure that those fees in the project they worked on were held in reserves to cover the debt service coverage etc. Look, this is not about Rezko trial now, this is about millions of dollars of public funds lost and Obama was still taking money and not asking questions. This is where Obama’s credentials as a community organizer come to question. His response was that affordable housing fails because of the socio economics of a neighborhood. No community organizer would ever say that. I cannot believe that people think this is what an Alinsky organizer would say or do. This insults the legacy of Alinsky.
Stellaa,
I totally agree with you. This man has no more core values than GW Bush. It makes me sick to read about what happened, and it’s disgusting that this situation hasn’t received more attention in the national media. But those were just poor people, they don’t count.
Frankly, this whole notion that he is grassroots, progressive and lefty is absolutely the most disturbing assertion. I do not find anything progressive about him. I hate it how he used the community he claims that he loves and represents, it just burns me.
Obama talks about community organizing because he doesn’t have many accomplishments – that’s about as close as he gets to something that feels like an organic triumph. He got out of law school, went to work for a civil rights law firm and did nothing. He was never lead attorney on a case. He helped no one. He changed nothing. Then he ran for the Illinois Senate. The Illinois met about 75 days out of the entire year and only 55 or so were mandatory. Obama did nothing there either for the first five years. Nothing. Finally, Emil Jones gifted him with some legislation and his career was suddenly up and running – although not because of anything he did. Then he’s in the US senate and he has a few bi-partisan triumphs, but it ain’t much, that’s for sure.
He talks about it because it’s all he can talk about. You want to hear about the days that he assisted on cases that other people led and won? It’s like that. There’s very little that’s his. Except community organizing.
Who would have thought? The most powerful job in the world and running against someone with no experience proves to be tougher than running against someone with experience.
Not much to show for it either. I know some dynamite organizers, what did he do?
T/U so much BostonBoomer! This I will add to the Obama file.
Bless you.
We all put Nancy Grace to shame!!
the opening of this piece struck me, because it fits with what I’ve been saying all along about the GOP’s plan’s for Obama vis a vis Jeremiah Wright…
He was hired by Jerry Kellman, a Chicago organizer, to lead the Developing Communities Project (DCP), which would target African American neighborhoods on Chicago’s South Side by working with African American churches in the area.”
The whole “why didn’t Obama leave Wright’s church” question was just for starters — the only reason that it right-wing smear machine put it out there is that it had a “sell-by” date on it. Wright was about to retire, and once he was gone, “why are you in this horrible person’s church” was no longer an “immediate” concern.
The real question that the GOP will be asking is “Why did Obama join Wright’s church in the first place.?”
And here I come to find out that it was Obama’s job to work with AA churches on the south side? In other words, he had to have known what each church was about — and the church he decided to join after working with South Side AA churches for three years was Wrights.
I mean, Wright didn’t turn into this radical overnight — he’s been radical for ages — and I have no doubt that Wright said things back in the 1980s that the GOP has stockpiled for release at just the right moment….
We are SO screwed if Obama gets the nomination….
Paul,
Obama met Wright through his community organizing job. He took Wright’s tapes with him when he went to Harvard. Obama was asked to join several churches and refused. I’m sure the only reason he joined Wright’s church was to help in his political career. In the district he was in, that was the church to belong to. I think on some level, Obama was also attracted by Wright’s aggressive advocacy for the Afrocentric Christian point of view. Obama was searching for a black identity, even though he had come from a completely different background. Wright gave him street cred.
didn’t know he was asked to join other churches, Boomer.
Maybe I’ve got ODS, but I read what you wrote, and immediately saw what an organization like Freedom Watch could do with it.
I mean… here’s the script:
Scene: Sunny day, urban environment. (ambient audio — chirping birds, children playing, cars pasing by) Two african american women, one middle aged, one elderly, are taling to the camera.
Middle aged woman: Yes, I remember Barry. He did a lot of work in the community.
Older woman: Yes, he was very nice. We even asked him to join our church
Scene: FREEZE, end ambient audio, fade slowly to black as narrator says:
Narration; In the mid 80′s Barack Obama was asked to join many Churches on the South Side of Chicago
Scene: Fade in slowly to a black and white unflattering picture of Jeremiah Wright
NarratorL He chose the church of this man, pastor Jeremiah Wright, after hearing this sermon…
(second narrator reads quote from sermon with the “greedy white people” reference….
*********
I think you know where it goes from there.
I totally echo KatieBird: its disgusting how many Democrats with decades more experience just trashed “the experience thing” in throwing themselves at “Barry.” It’s disguised misogyny, mostly, or wanting to be hip, absolutely. Its Klobuchar and McKaskill (ungrateful wretches whom I wrote saying I’m done donating to them), Leahy and Lamont, Kerry and Kennedy, all enjoying beating up on the girl by cozying up to the cool guy. It’s the oldest saddest creepiest act in the world, and I condemn the pack of them.
I have the feeling a lot of people just think it sounds hip that he was a community organizer, like it was hip for Bill Clinton to play the saxophone. A few people I’ve pressed for details about what exactly he plans to do as President say that he’s not going to do it, the grass roots is going to.
What the President of the United States has to do with grass roots activities escapes me. Has it been holding them back from engaging in local activities that we don’t have a President who encourages it? And what would we need a President for if we could do his job for him?
I don’t care whether Obama was a good or bad or indifferent community organizers, by the standards of the genre. My problem is that it’s just an ineffective genre for the most part, on its own terms: it hasn’t made poor, disempowered people less poor, or less disempowered except in a narrow, self-ferential sense (e.g. they get to work in community organizing themselves, as if in a pyramid scheme).
So of course, Hillary was crucified for insinuating a mere 1% of what I’ve said. She should have just said it all.
Rich…you are right. The genre in the last 20 years or so was coopted by the local governments. Non profits, get CDBG grants to have an organizing arm, what they do is basically have meetings, use lots of butcher paper and basically stifle the voice of the community. Lots of young kids that come with college degrees that have no clue about the community and the struggles of the community. It’s not like in the old days when people were working to take over the ownership of affordable housing and doing real community development.
As the people are pacified and the organizers, like Obama get employed, the communities get nothing. What did his community get? 60 affordable housing projects that went into foreclosure by his number one supporter, Rezko. Back in the early days of the Alinsky organizing, no community organizer would be in bed with a Rezko– a slumlord.
Thank you so much for this. This is one scary guy. I don’t understand why so many in this country are not seeing past his facade, esp. concerning is the MSM worship of him. That he did group work that manipulated people- tearing them up to then bestow upon them a sense of hope – reminds me of early Hitler days. I am furious with Dem. Party. How could they possibly run such an unvetted candidate? It makes me wonder, what is in it for these party elites? There has to be a reason beyond utter stupidity – or were they always this completely dense?
Look, as someone who writes at Stop Obama, I still cannot understand what makes Obama a better or more special community organizer than any of his peers. One pat on the back from a former Alinsky instructor, is political sponsorship, not objective fact.
From my own research of Obama, the man was unknown in his city, and whatever community organizing took place in his district, most voters were clearly unaware of it, when Obama ran for legislator in 1996. When Obama ran for Congress in 2000, some voters, particularly AA in his district, found the “community” work a joke. I mean they literally laughed.
Its like some owner of a car mechanic shop, comes up to the head of IBM, and says can I run your business, I’ve years of working with cars and doing my own accounts.
Its absurd!
As for the asbestos you mention – the story on that is, that Obama claimed the credit, while others did the hard work (a perpetual pattern in Obama’s career).
Then, there is the work for Rezko, you point out, carried out through a law firm, which refuses to divulge any info on its clients or Obama’s memos (since he did nothing but write about 30 memos). Obama also refuses to release documents from his sting in the Illinois Senate.
I fail to see anything tangible in Obama’s community work. It’s an election ploy- Axelrod has done his polling, this was clear from my research- its not that Obama really has some exceptional community background- there is just nothing tangible there. .
I write extensively about this topic on my blog http://www.chicagoagainstobama.com . In Chicago we know all too well about community organizers…they are an extension of the patronizing Chicago political machine that has allowed the same alderman and leaders to control our great city for over 77 years. Community organizers don’t bring change, they typical prevent it from happening.
Thanks for all of your comments. Thought I was the only one scratching my head about where the acheivements were – even small or singular ones – that provide any hope that Obama could actually succeed as President.
I also wonder why our various elected officials and other celebrities are trying to sell us on the fact that he can succeed. Their endorsements are one of my more compelling reasons to make sure Obama is not elected President. I just feel the need to show them that the electorate can’t afford to take them seriously.
Any elected official that says that they took advice from their teenage kids on endorsing Obama deserves to be kicked out of office.
Well…good post. In essence here is what Obama has accomplished.
After college in the Chicago southside as a community organizer: nothing.
After Law School in the Civil Rights Law firm: Nothing
In the Illinois Senate: Nothing
In the US Senate: Nothing.
This guy has nothing to boast about…he had no metal to be President of the Knights of Columbus much less the Presidency of the US.
This guy has no qualifications at all!
Katiebird wrote on April 21:
………I totally don’t get how this work qualifies a person to be president. Especially against the original Democratic contenders who each had a depth of experience that blasted BO’s out of the water.
I’m seriously concerned about the judgement of any elected officials who’ve endorsed him.
WHAT are they thinking?
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Could it be that the Clintons’ ticked off a lot of Democrats..somewhere, somehow? And this is the way they’re getting back at the Clintons’ ?
I was shocked not only when Ted threw his support to Obama but CAROLINE as well!!!
What was THAT about?? (scratching my head.)
George,
Thanks for your comment. I didn’t realize anyone was reading this old post. We’d love to have you join us in our latest thread.
Besides being a community organizer for a socialist organization he did have 143 working days of experience as a US Senator before announcing his run for the Presidency.
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You folks were all bent out of shape for believing you didn’t have a voice during the primaries. Now you have a web site where… nobody has a voice unless they agree with you?
You’re exacerbating the very practice you were demeaning. Absolutely shameful.
bulloney, does this blog look like a state sactioned election? what a dipshit you are. bye bye!
tj said;
What he has effectively done is help people to help themselves-something that white Americans have criticized their fellow black Americans for not doing
tj, check your racist stereotypes at the door, otherwise you’re not welcome here.
About 20 years ago in the windy city of Casper, Wyoming, I was privileged to serve among a group of ‘community organizers.’ These men and women served at the local mission, helped in latchkey school programs and we got involved in politics teaching on free enterprise and the constitution, helped register voters, and ran for precinct chairs all for the betterment of our communities. And we did it for free. Our pastors encouraged us to get off our blessed assurances and make a difference in our community. We knew what they preached and it wasn’t anti-American nor did they call us white folk ‘prosperity pimps’. My mentor was a hockey mom and I toted my Down Syndrome son around while doing these Random Acts of Kindness.
Meanwhile in the windy city of Chicago, Barack Obama was doing his own ‘organizing’ involving himself for a paltry $12,000 salary (coming from taxpayer subsidies) for doing what? Serving soup? Mr. Obama has not yet answered to the public about his involvement with the far-left ACORN, Bill Ayers and those who masquerade as clergy. I guess that is why he has some skewed ideas about what service really is. I am not surprised why in the recent Service Nation Summit he promoted offering college tuition credits to students for community service. Maybe he should use the acronym IDRC for his big idea. It means – I Don’t Really Care; I’m Doing it to Reduce my College tuition. Maybe he can enlist the IDRC’s from liberal colleges to get more bogus voter registrations as ACORN has in over 12 states! I think Barack Obama owes an apology to those of us who have and continue to serve from the heart in communities all over this nation. Worse yet to use his questionable service activities and his 143 days in the U.S. Senate as a qualification for the executive office of President.
The poisons that lurk in the mud….
Barack Obama, the revolutionary left’s wet dream.
Barack Obama, “al Mahdi“, “The Expected One“, “He who will fill the Earth with Justice and Truth that will last a thousand years“. He who rides the shoulders of the thirty-five percent of America’s people, who, pounded for generations by the America-is-evil agitprop that gushes out
from our print media, our movie screens, our TV sets, and our schools, people who have hook-line-and-sinker swallowed a collectivist theology which has led them to the point where, if he ran today, they would vote for Stalin.
Barack Hussein Obama, your classic, coddled, scented, and manicured, lefty-darling, his resume nothing but a drab array of unremarkable sinecures, who never displayed the least gift for leadership or creativity or imagination or character, who did nothing except stand idle, sporting a smug grin, watching his path to glory cleared by an obsequious army of affirmative-action worker ants.
Nevertheless, if one peeks beneath that meticulously contrived, applied and maintained fancy-pants veneer of respectability, one finds the stark, grim, Hate Whitey, Hate the Jew, Hate America, straight-from-the-1960s,
still-throbbing heart of Huey Newton.
Barack Obama, the Unreconstructed Black Panther.
…….
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